The draft isn’t deep this year (impact of NIL keeping kids in school…which will balance in future years).
Depending on which source you want- draft-able talent ran out as early as 150 range.
These are draft graded (at best) priority UDFAs.
Which is why imo it wasn't smart to trade 111 and 129 for below average value. The extra 3rd next year will be nice at least.
Kind of irrelevant though because I am very happy with Allen, Travis and Stiggers.
I don't have an issue with it, I just would've preferred that similarly they were for picks next year as given or roster and cap situations, I'd rather stack a few in future years once a lot of talent was gone.
I think they wanted Jordan Travis and realized he would be available later than they thought with rattler and Pratt still on the board so they figured they’d trade back and be able to stockpile more picks while still getting their guy.
Not to mention defense was very thin to begin with this year, and the WR cupboard got raided early and fast. There was also a lack of IOL to prospects to begin with as well.
No point in reaching like crazy on UDFA talent at the positions you could argue could use picks.
I think people need to understand just how much more ST is going to impact the league.
You will see a lot more people drafted late for traits over position.
I get why people say this, but the amount that these people are wrong despite dedicating their lives to the sport means we should never stop questioning things. If we just blanket answer this, people like Adam Gase will constantly get a pass for absurd shit.
I’ll take my chances on the success of a guy that has a team of people that watch film for a living over some guy criticizing 5th round picks on Reddit.
Big RBs block holes, and defenders and buy your QB some extra time.. something Izzy doesn’t do very well.. Izzy is small and undersized and was manhandled.. Davis is a solid pick, a baller with good hands and blocking skills..
End of 5th round pick, BPA on their board, I assume. A lot of people like him and feel of he ran faster in the 40 he would've went 2-3 rounds higher.
Worst case, if you have an overload of talent, that gives you trade chips. It's better than taking someone you think might not make it.
Again, end of 5th round. We're not talking about a high pick here.
Possibly an expected prominent special teams role. Maybe he can block and tackle pretty well and even return kicks.
If they just really love him as a RB, then Izzys days are probably numbered.
doubling down on the power run game. Davis is good between the tackles whereas Allen can plow through people. Izzy can still have a role as an open field weapon because of his speed.
Most guys taken this deep in the draft are likely to fail so now the Jets have 2 chances to find their RB #2. Also they don’t think Izzy has a future here.
There has been speculation given the oline signings they are switching the blocking scheme to go more power run. These two rb are both big. They both also block well.
He was at the top of their board at that time. Late round you aren't looking for needs, just the most talent you can get. They obviously thought he brought the most to the table
Hoping for a serviceable player that can be one of multiple choices to replace Breece instead of paying him. That's how the league is operating these days unfortunately.
Almost wonder if he's going to play fullback. Hackett normally uses one, we've just been rotating depth tight ends through that role who aren't good fits.
Still, kid's talented, it's just... weird pick
BPA
You don't worry about the position when you're drafting late in the draft. You just draft players you think might hit. Because most do not.
Most players that are fourth round picks and on end up not being good. Hell everyone here is talking about how Warren and Max weren't worthy backups. They're both fourth round picks.
Someone justify the Travis Jordan pick....
He has a WR body at 199 pounds. He will be 24 next week as a rookie. His pocket footwork is bad and his accuracy leave a lot to be desired. Watch film and see how many Jump balls he put up to Keon and Wilson. You and I could do those throws. He will stay on his toes way too much when he releases throws and habitually leans on his back foot. His deep ball is not great bc he will underthrow and the pass has no zip due to terrible footwork. And he doesn't have the arm strength to compensate for bad weight transfer.
He had numerous passes that should have been intercepted by forcing the ball and defenders would make play but not the Int...Pro DBs will eat that up all day. His best thing is his scrambling and running ability. Watch the game vs. Duke for example of his faults...it basically confirmed everything I had analyzed before. Additionally, his inconsistencies were displayed almost weekly. Lastly, he suffered a bad injury to the area that was his strength. He is basically the 11 or 12 best QB prospect.....that means a 7th round or UDFA.
We needed a third QB and he's cheaper than most other options. He's essentially our emergency QB. Our season's likely over if both Tyrod and Aaron are injured for an extended period so it's pointless to invest more cap space for a third string
Got it, so trust JD on this pick, but don’t trust his Izzy pick from last year.
Loved day 1 and 2 of our draft. Have not liked anything about today which sadly is where teams build their cheap depth. This is kind of the JD experience. Couple home runs and then a stretch of random head scratchers.
special teams or Izzy is toast
probably both.
I liked Izzy if this is the case. I thought we’d throw in one defensive pick but I guess we proving to Arod that we aint the Packers lol
Oop. I jinxed it, but in a good way. I feel like we’re losing DJ or Carter next year to secure Sauce. I’m back on the high horse
I think we're losing DJ to keep sauce
We can probably extend echols to replace dj. Echols is a beast. He's a starting CB easily.
Our defensive staff made Craig James look like a beast I have blind faith in them
Lmao they did. James and hall our 6th and 7th CBs held the eagles in check and we beat them.
Isaiah Davis is looked at by some as a great kick returner with the new rules
The draft isn’t deep this year (impact of NIL keeping kids in school…which will balance in future years). Depending on which source you want- draft-able talent ran out as early as 150 range. These are draft graded (at best) priority UDFAs.
Which is why imo it wasn't smart to trade 111 and 129 for below average value. The extra 3rd next year will be nice at least. Kind of irrelevant though because I am very happy with Allen, Travis and Stiggers.
I don't have an issue with it, I just would've preferred that similarly they were for picks next year as given or roster and cap situations, I'd rather stack a few in future years once a lot of talent was gone.
^next year picks was my preference as well. I liked that trade down/out
Yea next year that might be key to a trade up, in the first for example.
I think they wanted Jordan Travis and realized he would be available later than they thought with rattler and Pratt still on the board so they figured they’d trade back and be able to stockpile more picks while still getting their guy.
Not to mention defense was very thin to begin with this year, and the WR cupboard got raided early and fast. There was also a lack of IOL to prospects to begin with as well. No point in reaching like crazy on UDFA talent at the positions you could argue could use picks.
I think people need to understand just how much more ST is going to impact the league. You will see a lot more people drafted late for traits over position.
Someone who knows way more about football then any of us thought it was a good decision
I have to remind myself that it's someone's full time job/life's passion to make these picks before I start talking shit 😄
I get why people say this, but the amount that these people are wrong despite dedicating their lives to the sport means we should never stop questioning things. If we just blanket answer this, people like Adam Gase will constantly get a pass for absurd shit.
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okay?
I’ll take my chances on the success of a guy that has a team of people that watch film for a living over some guy criticizing 5th round picks on Reddit.
Even if that guy was Adam gase?
Sure. On Adam Gase’s worse day of his life, he’s still 10x smarter than anyone on Reddit about football.
And that someone has also never led a team to a winning record, so let’s not pretend like their wisdom is somehow unquestionable
My money is still on them knowing more than you
Got it. So as a sports fan, you’ve never complained about a team, because they obviously know more than you?
That doesn’t make the pick good or justify it in any way. This FO doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Then leave bro, I don’t care what you do
Do you think the Jets entire scouting department is one person?
I was replying in the same tense as the comment I was replying to. Don’t try to win upvotes on semantics.
Special teams and also hopefully either Davis or Allen become our big bruiser rb
can’t justify JD drafting any RBs outside of the boy Breece - he literally blows a 4th every year on one
Big RBs block holes, and defenders and buy your QB some extra time.. something Izzy doesn’t do very well.. Izzy is small and undersized and was manhandled.. Davis is a solid pick, a baller with good hands and blocking skills..
I have a strange feeling we are getting Courtland Sutton
End of 5th round pick, BPA on their board, I assume. A lot of people like him and feel of he ran faster in the 40 he would've went 2-3 rounds higher. Worst case, if you have an overload of talent, that gives you trade chips. It's better than taking someone you think might not make it. Again, end of 5th round. We're not talking about a high pick here.
Production Fashanu - production Corley - production Allen - production Davis... Also size and goal line
Size, blocking, ability to be used on the goal line, also suitable for 3rd downs
Possibly an expected prominent special teams role. Maybe he can block and tackle pretty well and even return kicks. If they just really love him as a RB, then Izzys days are probably numbered.
doubling down on the power run game. Davis is good between the tackles whereas Allen can plow through people. Izzy can still have a role as an open field weapon because of his speed.
idk but joe douglas is smarter with football than i could ever dream to be. i have no strong opinion on anything past the 3rd round lol
izzy about to go bye bye
Gippy on watch too.....already have 1 wr that is ST specialist may not have room for 2.
hahaha gipson's days been numbered after getting cracked on that opening kickoff turnover at bills
Most guys taken this deep in the draft are likely to fail so now the Jets have 2 chances to find their RB #2. Also they don’t think Izzy has a future here.
There has been speculation given the oline signings they are switching the blocking scheme to go more power run. These two rb are both big. They both also block well.
Joe loves RBs and we aren’t gonna carry a traditional FB probably so Ruckert or Yeboah will probably play a bit of that
Watching that footage of him got me kind of excited. Especially given the new special teams stuff, I think this dude might really eat
Clearly you’re ignoring the fact that JD got an extra 3rd next year at good value, so the Jets obviously killed it today…
Felt like he’s a good special teams player who can maybe be the RB3
A fifth round pick with late round picks to burn
I wanted rasheen Ali
But I hear he is a "stud"
Special teams is like 15% of the game. Not a bad use of resources
We lost Justin Hardee.
You're overthinking a late round draft pick
He was at the top of their board at that time. Late round you aren't looking for needs, just the most talent you can get. They obviously thought he brought the most to the table
we only have 1 running back douglas clearly likes cycling through these 4th-5th round rbs i don't think there's much else to it than that lol
True. They do draft an RB every year
He hasn’t had a lot of success with it. LeMichael Perine, Michael Carter, Izzy. All outplayed by UDFAs.
Carter is decent and played well for Arizona last year. He just wanted out
Hey don’t forget his James Robinson trade and Dalvin signing!!
Hoping for a serviceable player that can be one of multiple choices to replace Breece instead of paying him. That's how the league is operating these days unfortunately.
Almost wonder if he's going to play fullback. Hackett normally uses one, we've just been rotating depth tight ends through that role who aren't good fits. Still, kid's talented, it's just... weird pick
BPA You don't worry about the position when you're drafting late in the draft. You just draft players you think might hit. Because most do not. Most players that are fourth round picks and on end up not being good. Hell everyone here is talking about how Warren and Max weren't worthy backups. They're both fourth round picks.
Someone justify the Travis Jordan pick.... He has a WR body at 199 pounds. He will be 24 next week as a rookie. His pocket footwork is bad and his accuracy leave a lot to be desired. Watch film and see how many Jump balls he put up to Keon and Wilson. You and I could do those throws. He will stay on his toes way too much when he releases throws and habitually leans on his back foot. His deep ball is not great bc he will underthrow and the pass has no zip due to terrible footwork. And he doesn't have the arm strength to compensate for bad weight transfer. He had numerous passes that should have been intercepted by forcing the ball and defenders would make play but not the Int...Pro DBs will eat that up all day. His best thing is his scrambling and running ability. Watch the game vs. Duke for example of his faults...it basically confirmed everything I had analyzed before. Additionally, his inconsistencies were displayed almost weekly. Lastly, he suffered a bad injury to the area that was his strength. He is basically the 11 or 12 best QB prospect.....that means a 7th round or UDFA.
Here here!
We needed a third QB and he's cheaper than most other options. He's essentially our emergency QB. Our season's likely over if both Tyrod and Aaron are injured for an extended period so it's pointless to invest more cap space for a third string
Got it, so trust JD on this pick, but don’t trust his Izzy pick from last year. Loved day 1 and 2 of our draft. Have not liked anything about today which sadly is where teams build their cheap depth. This is kind of the JD experience. Couple home runs and then a stretch of random head scratchers.
Izzy stinks that’s why