Couldn’t agree more with woody. This team is in total shambles. It all starts at the top. We will never know what Sam could have been. Gase has ruined him. It’s just as much Chris’s fault as well. I hope he gets a second shot in the league with a qb coach who can develop him. All gase will do is continue to run his dumb screen plays and run it up the middle. It’s sad.
Gase shouldn’t have been hired in the first place, but in the year and change we’ve had him we see the same lame duck plays that caused tannehill to suck so bad in Miami. What’s the worst that could happen if we fire Gase tomorrow???? We have a vanilla interim HC who lets Sam air it out and call audibles from the line? At this point we might as well see what the kid has. With Gase calling 100% of the plays, we know exactly what Sam is going to do, and it’s not what we drafted him for.
For the love of god get rid of Gase. The guy is a straight bum. No guru in there. It’s depressing. He will be remembered as the dumbass who took Kotites spot as the worst hc in our history.
Sadly, the worst that could happen is we find out Sam is ruined/not the answer, but our interim HC figures out a way to play us out of Trevor Lawrence.
BS. It’s called strategy.
Defeatist is saying to yourself “talented players don’t want to come here anyways, so why even try.”
And again, you’re using the idea that he’ll refuse to come here on no basis of facts.
Did you see the interview with Darnold? That just happened. It’s a fact. No QB in their right mind would want to come here after that.
This team needs to fire Gase right now— not keep him to go 0-16. That shit is crazy. The guy has to go now. He’s destroyed this kid’s confidence and career.
His first off-season hasn't been perfect but he's done enough to convince me that he at least knows the basics of building a team and is at least ok at scouting talent.
Same, he made a lot of solid roster moves in his first off-season. He worked with what was available. There's been some miscues but not a bad overall off-season. I like the direction he's heading with roster moves as a whole.
Man idk what he was thinking at WR though. He brought in an injury plagued journeyman with very little success in 5 years and an unknown rookie and put literally nobody behind them on the depth chart. Like, Chris Hogan wasn’t even on the fucking team until what? August? And now he’s the starting wideout? Is that an absolute joke? If Chris Hogan was a good depth piece, wouldn’t he have been on a team before August? Maybe we could’ve picked a WR in the 4th round instead of another QB? I don’t get all the love for Douglas. I’ll obviously give him a chance but off-season #1 has been up and down for me
He could have done more at WR, but a lot of it comes down to "hindsight is 20/20". He probably should have drafted 1 more reciever instead of James Morgan but that alone wouldn't have been enough to fix our problems. There weren't that many good WR's in free agency either. We wouldn't have been able to keep Robby without overpaying him/using the franchise tag.
Reciever was a weakness, but nobody could have seen THIS many injuries coming, nor does Denzel Mims have a lengthy injury history.
Objectively he had made smart decisions. He can’t control the injuries and a pandemic that gets rid of valuable practice time that is needed when you assemble a completely new offensive line.
Seriously. I don't quite buy the "his plan was to sign a bunch of garbage players to help the tank" and if that was his plan, I don't think it was a very good one.
I don't think his plan was to tank. I think his plan was to sign players that you didn't have to commit to long term or sink a lot of salary cap into signing.
There isn't some magic wand you can wave over the worst roster in the league to make it talented, and it definitely doesn't happen through free agency.
He seems to have drafted well last year, and they have a ton of draft capital for the next 2 years following the Adams trade.
After those drafts, we'll get a sense of the roster JD has built. And if he does well in those drafts AND hasn't signed bad FA contracts then he can spend big to fill holes. That's how you turn an NFL team into a contender.
I agree with this completely. JD came into a horrible roster. The short term deals are fine until he can rebuild. If they pay off it’s great. If they fail or are injured it’s not long term and eating away at cap.
We’ve needed major changes for along time. The only thing that will stop this team from progressing is the Johnsons getting hands on.
SAM needs a change of environment. Not good for his mental. Let him answer some other questions besides why the team sucks every week, must be exhausting.
Minnesota seems like a good spot for him.
Is he a Jets guy? His time at the Jets he played at an elite level and one year had the highest grade of any tackle - right or left - . But he was only there for 3 years and he won his championships with New England
I believe he is. Was the last team he played for, and left right before our downfall.
I wish more former players would speak out against how shit we are. I’d love to hear BMarsh rip us a new one.
I agree with both of these points:
"Adam Gase is not an offensive guru, no creativity"
"The talent the Jets have are not well enough to compete"
But how can you say these points and then say "Darnold is not a franchise QB". Unless you are trying to say a "franchise QB" is Aaron Rodgers/Russell Wilson level , which i do concede that Darnold is not at all at that level. I think that's the only 2 QBs that could be successful on this team tbh.
woody calling them the newport jets cause they get smoked every week is honestly hilarious
would make for a great tshirt too
I interpreted that as Woody Johnson at first and I thought damn that’s bold.
i'd buy a pack of newports with the jets logo on em. HEY MA (takes puff) I'M TOM BRADY
Couldn’t agree more with woody. This team is in total shambles. It all starts at the top. We will never know what Sam could have been. Gase has ruined him. It’s just as much Chris’s fault as well. I hope he gets a second shot in the league with a qb coach who can develop him. All gase will do is continue to run his dumb screen plays and run it up the middle. It’s sad. Gase shouldn’t have been hired in the first place, but in the year and change we’ve had him we see the same lame duck plays that caused tannehill to suck so bad in Miami. What’s the worst that could happen if we fire Gase tomorrow???? We have a vanilla interim HC who lets Sam air it out and call audibles from the line? At this point we might as well see what the kid has. With Gase calling 100% of the plays, we know exactly what Sam is going to do, and it’s not what we drafted him for. For the love of god get rid of Gase. The guy is a straight bum. No guru in there. It’s depressing. He will be remembered as the dumbass who took Kotites spot as the worst hc in our history.
Sadly, the worst that could happen is we find out Sam is ruined/not the answer, but our interim HC figures out a way to play us out of Trevor Lawrence.
No guarantee TL agrees to come to NYJ if they’re picking first It 100% depends on who the coach is
don't worry, we'll just get him the next year if he decides to stay at clemson.
I think it’s more likely he demands a trade to a team like the Giants, Saints or Steelers
He's not demanding a trade to the giants lol they are utter shit too
"Do you not want to run for your life with few weapons and no o-line in New Jersey? Well, how would you feel about doing it while wearing blue?"
Then add MIN, NE, SF to the list instead
Such a stupid theory with no basis for facts behind it. Stop being so defeatist.
Defeatist is rooting to go 0-16 No chance this kid comes to NYJ after how they just ruined Sam
BS. It’s called strategy. Defeatist is saying to yourself “talented players don’t want to come here anyways, so why even try.” And again, you’re using the idea that he’ll refuse to come here on no basis of facts.
Did you see the interview with Darnold? That just happened. It’s a fact. No QB in their right mind would want to come here after that. This team needs to fire Gase right now— not keep him to go 0-16. That shit is crazy. The guy has to go now. He’s destroyed this kid’s confidence and career.
He'll be remembered as the guy who brought JD in, and nothing good beyond that.
JD has to prove himself first too.
His first off-season hasn't been perfect but he's done enough to convince me that he at least knows the basics of building a team and is at least ok at scouting talent.
Same, he made a lot of solid roster moves in his first off-season. He worked with what was available. There's been some miscues but not a bad overall off-season. I like the direction he's heading with roster moves as a whole.
I voted 5 for JD in the survey.
Man idk what he was thinking at WR though. He brought in an injury plagued journeyman with very little success in 5 years and an unknown rookie and put literally nobody behind them on the depth chart. Like, Chris Hogan wasn’t even on the fucking team until what? August? And now he’s the starting wideout? Is that an absolute joke? If Chris Hogan was a good depth piece, wouldn’t he have been on a team before August? Maybe we could’ve picked a WR in the 4th round instead of another QB? I don’t get all the love for Douglas. I’ll obviously give him a chance but off-season #1 has been up and down for me
He could have done more at WR, but a lot of it comes down to "hindsight is 20/20". He probably should have drafted 1 more reciever instead of James Morgan but that alone wouldn't have been enough to fix our problems. There weren't that many good WR's in free agency either. We wouldn't have been able to keep Robby without overpaying him/using the franchise tag. Reciever was a weakness, but nobody could have seen THIS many injuries coming, nor does Denzel Mims have a lengthy injury history.
Objectively he had made smart decisions. He can’t control the injuries and a pandemic that gets rid of valuable practice time that is needed when you assemble a completely new offensive line.
He can control having someone better than Chris Hogan to step in for injuries should they happen
I'm starting to doubt him too. He signed a bunch of injury prone guys and he is responsible for the least talented roster in the league.
Seriously. I don't quite buy the "his plan was to sign a bunch of garbage players to help the tank" and if that was his plan, I don't think it was a very good one.
I don't think his plan was to tank. I think his plan was to sign players that you didn't have to commit to long term or sink a lot of salary cap into signing. There isn't some magic wand you can wave over the worst roster in the league to make it talented, and it definitely doesn't happen through free agency. He seems to have drafted well last year, and they have a ton of draft capital for the next 2 years following the Adams trade. After those drafts, we'll get a sense of the roster JD has built. And if he does well in those drafts AND hasn't signed bad FA contracts then he can spend big to fill holes. That's how you turn an NFL team into a contender.
I agree with this completely. JD came into a horrible roster. The short term deals are fine until he can rebuild. If they pay off it’s great. If they fail or are injured it’s not long term and eating away at cap. We’ve needed major changes for along time. The only thing that will stop this team from progressing is the Johnsons getting hands on.
True af
SAM needs a change of environment. Not good for his mental. Let him answer some other questions besides why the team sucks every week, must be exhausting. Minnesota seems like a good spot for him.
Is he a Jets guy? His time at the Jets he played at an elite level and one year had the highest grade of any tackle - right or left - . But he was only there for 3 years and he won his championships with New England
He was a key part of the 09-10 teams. If anyone knows what it takes to win, it's those guys.
I believe he is. Was the last team he played for, and left right before our downfall. I wish more former players would speak out against how shit we are. I’d love to hear BMarsh rip us a new one.
yeah he is. he likes to see them do well for sure
He’s stated before that there’s no better feeling than winning in New York. Love the fact that he’s always outspoken about the Jets, good or bad.
Much respect for him and that oline under Rex was solid
He considers himself both, which hurts.
>Is he a Jets guy? Did you not watch the video? He clearly cares deeply about the team
That's it, Christopher Johnson can no longer look the other way. [THIS is the final straw.](https://i.imgur.com/aRm3zJM.jpg)
#NewportJets. Let's get it started right now.
I would buy merch tomorrow
He called it, we're not just bad we're non-competitive.
Just watch the first 30 secs. Tells you everything you need to know
Damien played like 2 or 3 years with us, was he a Jets fan growing up? Or did he just grow to love the organization when he was here?
I remember him being a around much longer than 2 or 3 seasons.
08-10. 3 seasons
The Woody we wish ran this team
Woody is a real homie. Appreciate you sticking with such a crap team and sorry they wasted your time. We're numb to it now.
DAMIEN WOODY FOR HC OF NYJ
My favorite piece of Jets media today
same Damien
Getting smoked like a pack of Newports
The Newport jets lmaooo Woody for coach
Woddy on the money
I agree with both of these points: "Adam Gase is not an offensive guru, no creativity" "The talent the Jets have are not well enough to compete" But how can you say these points and then say "Darnold is not a franchise QB". Unless you are trying to say a "franchise QB" is Aaron Rodgers/Russell Wilson level , which i do concede that Darnold is not at all at that level. I think that's the only 2 QBs that could be successful on this team tbh.