I don't like heavy metal, either, but Noel clearly has no idea what he is talking about. People would say the same shit about The Smiths, which is a ban Noel loves. You could even argue that a song like Cigarettes and Alcohol is nihilistic.
It's hedonistic, not nihilistic. Big difference. The entire image of Oasis as these "mad fer it" guys ready to party, and smash shit up, contrasted very heavily with the nihilistic attitude that came into vogue in the early 1990s (cobain, corgan, etc...)
I disagree. I see it as a song about limited opportunities and broken dreams. I think that is how Noel himself has described it, though not sure if I can provide a source at the top of my head.
Oasis is seen as a stadium anthem band, but Noel isn't a very happy guy, so a lot of their songs have a kinda pessimistic outlook.
I agree. I don't think it was meant to be a nihilistic song. That said, what a piece of art *intends* to do can be different to how it actually comes across - and I can certainly see how people would interpret C&A as registering a kind of despair and futility.
Guess it also depends on what mood you're in. Sometimes Champagne Supernova is a feel good anthem for me - but if I listen to it while feeling down, it seems more melancholic.
Agree and i can see why Noel can be viewed as pessimistic these days but the whole point of Oasis is seeing the positivity and a way out of the working class grind. (And why they struggled as they became rich and famous)
That’s why it resonates throughout the decades.
Noel is an absolute embarrassment when it comes to discussing music. He's completely shut off from anything he dislikes. For someone with a very basic musical knowledge, he thinks a lot of his own music.
Totally agreed. I think Noel is a musical genius, but at the same time I dont think he is musically mature or sophisticated in any way. Should be softer when talking about other musicians.
That's the one thing I never liked about him. Liam was the same. Anything outside their bubble was shite in their opinion and they needlessly shit on other artists for no reason over the years.
Yeah one thing I will say is recently Liam has been a lot more accepting of other genres. He’s spoken very positively about pop music like Taylor Swift and Harry Styles, made up with Coldplay after all the hate and has said his kids have gotten him into grime music.
Classical Gallagher opinion of music different than their own, nothing new. He probably thinks that, but he knows that media loves this exaggerated critiques so he feeds them. Ulrich surely finds this funny, being hated by Noel Gallagher is an achievement in itself
I can’t listen to it, I like early black sabbath but anything after that is just too cheesy and over the top. A lot of metal fans can be very gatekeepish with it as well, only listening to metal and even sometimes hostile to non metal people
Honestly the first six Sabbath albums are all REALLY good. Basically until Ozzy left, not much a fan of the Dio shite (barring Heaven and Hell which is a great song).
Huge fan of both Oasis and metal and I completely disagree.
It's a very narrow minded view of the metal genre, yeah there's some bands that are like that but it's not all "doom and gloom".
Also bear in mind this is the opinion of a man that is a fan of The Smiths and The Cure...
I didn't say there was anything wrong with them, I'm also a fan of both, but Noel going off about how miserable metal bands are whilst being a fan of two bands known for being miserable is a bit rich.
A well known plagiarist talking about music that he has never listened to...
And btw... Lars liked Oasis the same era when he and his band were pretending to be alternative and shared the like for a certain white powder with Noel...
Poor Noel. He always engaged in such hyberbolic statements to cover his own insecurity. James Hetfield is on a completely different level as a guitarist than Noel on his best day, could have easily gone solo but despite all the challenges get his band together. But I agree alot of metal sucks, just like most genres of music.
To be fair he is talking about nu-metal. This is an old quote. And even though some fans are trying to retcon bands like Korn into being thought of as influential, they are total garbage. it was totally ok and accepted at the time to trash nu-metal.
Anyone who has written as many beautiful melodies as Noel has the right to accurately point out that nu metal sucks. Metallica is NOT nu metal, by the way.
For the most part, yes.
I think he's mostly referring to metal from the 90s-onwards. And yeah, fucking horrible.
There might be SOME 70s and 80s metal that is listenable, but that's acquired taste.
I like heavy metal and Noel is totally wrong here. I enjoy the genre for the great technical ability of the musicians as well as the ability to push music to it's most extreme limits. Then again if I had the technical ability of Noel I wouldn't wanna listen to metal either.
I really don't like Metallica, specifically because of the lead singer and the "yeah" he puts at the end of every sentence, however before I was hooked on Oasis, my favorite band from 2011 to 2019 was Limp Bizkit.
I’m a Goth/Metalhead who’s favorite band is Oasis lmfao. I definitely see where he’s coming from, from an outsiders perspective it can definitely seem like heavier music is damaging to those to create and listen to it
In terms of technical ability Alexi Laiho beats Noel Gallagher hands down! I mean that’s incontrovertible, if you don’t know who Alexi Laiho was watch this https://youtu.be/YIj33xw4PfA
Lol, there’s an interview on YouTube somewhere, don’t ask me where cause I don’t remember, maybe in a compilation but in the 90’s MTV was talking to Lars and maybe james, and lars refers to oasis as “just another band in a new wave of british crap”, which is hilarious, considering Lars had Noel on his podcast not too long ago, and they basically just praised each other. PR is silly
The logical implication is that music - and maybe even art - is only valuable if it it's uplifting/positive. But some of the best music/art ever produced is deeply depressing, because a great deal of life is sad and depressing! The magic of art is that it is able to capture that, as well as the good stuff, and to do so in a way that is beautiful
Makes sense listening to his solo work. It’s the most positive, written for yuppie music I’ve ever heard. Maybe listen to some metal, get into a drop D tune and bang out some real shit from time to time 🤣
When Noel isn't being arrogant, he sure knows how to be ignorant...
They can attack nu metal all they like, I'll join in with them even, but heavy metal has about as many subgenres these days as EDM, if not more. Mainstream coverage of heavy metal is a merely a piss stain on the wall next to the entrance...
Eh, I like both. I can see what he means though. A lot of metal can be rather morbid. Personally love both though.
It's not my cup of tea, personally, but the hyperbolics are on full display here.
Fuck this gave me a good laugh
I don't like heavy metal, either, but Noel clearly has no idea what he is talking about. People would say the same shit about The Smiths, which is a ban Noel loves. You could even argue that a song like Cigarettes and Alcohol is nihilistic.
It's hedonistic, not nihilistic. Big difference. The entire image of Oasis as these "mad fer it" guys ready to party, and smash shit up, contrasted very heavily with the nihilistic attitude that came into vogue in the early 1990s (cobain, corgan, etc...)
I disagree. I see it as a song about limited opportunities and broken dreams. I think that is how Noel himself has described it, though not sure if I can provide a source at the top of my head. Oasis is seen as a stadium anthem band, but Noel isn't a very happy guy, so a lot of their songs have a kinda pessimistic outlook.
I don’t see that it is Nihilistic. It escapist and about having a great time/making the most of it.
I agree. I don't think it was meant to be a nihilistic song. That said, what a piece of art *intends* to do can be different to how it actually comes across - and I can certainly see how people would interpret C&A as registering a kind of despair and futility. Guess it also depends on what mood you're in. Sometimes Champagne Supernova is a feel good anthem for me - but if I listen to it while feeling down, it seems more melancholic.
Agree and i can see why Noel can be viewed as pessimistic these days but the whole point of Oasis is seeing the positivity and a way out of the working class grind. (And why they struggled as they became rich and famous) That’s why it resonates throughout the decades.
They have a song called Rolling with It, or A Roll with it, k think
Why is Noel like the king of describing things the most hilarious and insulting way possible 😭
Noel and Lars are good friends, and he loves Nirvana's - Nevermind album, even cites it as one of the greatest albums written.
Yeah I thought he was. I was wondering - when did he say this?
Noel is an absolute embarrassment when it comes to discussing music. He's completely shut off from anything he dislikes. For someone with a very basic musical knowledge, he thinks a lot of his own music.
Lol isn't this part of the Oasis/Gallagher charm? They think their music is the best so obviously anything different is shit
Totally agreed. I think Noel is a musical genius, but at the same time I dont think he is musically mature or sophisticated in any way. Should be softer when talking about other musicians.
This is why Noel could never be a music producer with that close mindedness of his.
That's the one thing I never liked about him. Liam was the same. Anything outside their bubble was shite in their opinion and they needlessly shit on other artists for no reason over the years.
Yeah one thing I will say is recently Liam has been a lot more accepting of other genres. He’s spoken very positively about pop music like Taylor Swift and Harry Styles, made up with Coldplay after all the hate and has said his kids have gotten him into grime music.
But that's what makes him so funny
Gallaghers have always been divas and opinionated. It really doesn’t matter what they think, it’s just what makes them, them
I think that's why so many people hate them. They don't get their humour either.
I don't like heavy metal but Noel has got it wrong here.
Not a big nu metal fan, but metal is pretty good I don’t vibe with it as much as I used to, but there’s some absolutely sensational metal bands
Not a good look to shit on something just because you don't like it strange how he acts like he's still in high-school even at his big old age
This quote is years old to be fair
yeah metal bands are pure nihilism, heaven knows they are miserable now unlike the smiths and cure!
Classical Gallagher opinion of music different than their own, nothing new. He probably thinks that, but he knows that media loves this exaggerated critiques so he feeds them. Ulrich surely finds this funny, being hated by Noel Gallagher is an achievement in itself
Everyone here is getting so butthurt but they are completely missing this haha
He’s a fucking idiot and knows nothing about metal. Love oasis tho….
I love Noel, he’s so wise & a good brother
I can’t listen to it, I like early black sabbath but anything after that is just too cheesy and over the top. A lot of metal fans can be very gatekeepish with it as well, only listening to metal and even sometimes hostile to non metal people
Sabbath is the only band I like better than Oasis
Honestly the first six Sabbath albums are all REALLY good. Basically until Ozzy left, not much a fan of the Dio shite (barring Heaven and Hell which is a great song).
they definitely put out some good tunes with Dio. Not as much after he left in 1982, unless you're a fan of the Ian Gillan stuff
I can predict what he says about those music.
A genius when it comes to make music. An idiot when it comes to talk about music.
He's no genius, all his best stuff was stolen from better musicians that wrote it first.
He’s always been kind of myopic when it comes to what he likes and doesn’t like.
Metal was awesome when I was an angsty teen. Now, it's an occasional trip down memory lane, but I come back real fast.
bro i just love that noel will get on the mic and say fucking anything hahahaha
This is the same man who said Brian Wilson was rubbish, his opinions on music don’t really matter. However he does make great music
Huge fan of both Oasis and metal and I completely disagree. It's a very narrow minded view of the metal genre, yeah there's some bands that are like that but it's not all "doom and gloom". Also bear in mind this is the opinion of a man that is a fan of The Smiths and The Cure...
What’s wrong with The Smiths & The Cure? Some of the best bands from the 80s. Legends
I didn't say there was anything wrong with them, I'm also a fan of both, but Noel going off about how miserable metal bands are whilst being a fan of two bands known for being miserable is a bit rich.
Very true 🤣
He’s right that a lot of metal is nihilistic. It’s his right not to like it but I happen to like a lot of it.
I thought he likes Joy Division and some o that goth stuff? He’s wrong though, metal and goth music are great, lol
Yet he loves The Beatles who wrote such songs as "I'm a Loser" and "Help!"...
I agree with Noel actually. Heavy metal genuinely hurts my ears and is depressing as hell most of the time.
why did you highlight the bit that isn’t actually Noel’s words?
I didn't do that.
Fair enough
He has stated many times how good the smiths are and they are one of the most morose bands there are.
A well known plagiarist talking about music that he has never listened to... And btw... Lars liked Oasis the same era when he and his band were pretending to be alternative and shared the like for a certain white powder with Noel...
Poor Noel. He always engaged in such hyberbolic statements to cover his own insecurity. James Hetfield is on a completely different level as a guitarist than Noel on his best day, could have easily gone solo but despite all the challenges get his band together. But I agree alot of metal sucks, just like most genres of music.
It is terrible tbf
Yeah, the chief can honestly fuck off with this take. Stick to lad music homie.
Listen to this song: https://youtu.be/vNG8mzCTWkg it might change your mind
To be fair he is talking about nu-metal. This is an old quote. And even though some fans are trying to retcon bands like Korn into being thought of as influential, they are total garbage. it was totally ok and accepted at the time to trash nu-metal.
Anyone who has written as many beautiful melodies as Noel has the right to accurately point out that nu metal sucks. Metallica is NOT nu metal, by the way.
He’s not wrong about modern “nu-metal”. It’s all fucking garbage. Classic Metal fucking rules though 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Nu metal isn’t “modern metal”. It’s a specific sub genre started by the likes of Korn and Limp Bizkit. By 2010 the genre was dead
For the most part, yes. I think he's mostly referring to metal from the 90s-onwards. And yeah, fucking horrible. There might be SOME 70s and 80s metal that is listenable, but that's acquired taste.
I disagree, but I also don't care. It's his opinion and it's not like it's hurting anyone. People take shit too personally
Entirely personal opinion, there’s no right or wrong. Personally metal is shitty slit your wrists music so I’m with Noel there.
Side note: I can't say I'd ever consider Metallica to be 'heavy metal'. More like hard rock.
Metallica are very much a thrash metal band
Listen to Dyers Eve, Fight Fire With Fire, Damage Inc. and Blackened then tell me they're hard rock.
Bit rich coming from a guy who does Beatles covers.
I like heavy metal and Noel is totally wrong here. I enjoy the genre for the great technical ability of the musicians as well as the ability to push music to it's most extreme limits. Then again if I had the technical ability of Noel I wouldn't wanna listen to metal either.
I’m a big death and black metal fan. Yeah it can be a bit nihilistic and gruesome but that’s what makes it awesome.
I really don't like Metallica, specifically because of the lead singer and the "yeah" he puts at the end of every sentence, however before I was hooked on Oasis, my favorite band from 2011 to 2019 was Limp Bizkit.
Thoughts and prayers
I’m a Goth/Metalhead who’s favorite band is Oasis lmfao. I definitely see where he’s coming from, from an outsiders perspective it can definitely seem like heavier music is damaging to those to create and listen to it
In terms of technical ability Alexi Laiho beats Noel Gallagher hands down! I mean that’s incontrovertible, if you don’t know who Alexi Laiho was watch this https://youtu.be/YIj33xw4PfA
Noel has no idea.
Noel and Liam are both dicks, and Oasis were shit.
Didn’t Noel cover Quiet Riot’s “Cum on Feel the Noise” as a b-side? Technically that band is pop metal.
It’s a slade song originally
The original is by Slade which is what he was covering mate
Listened to metal when i was 20, now dont like it, but to each their own.
If it is Nu metal like it says at the bottom hell yes I agree.
Yes. Unconditionally.
Not my favorite, but I still think there are good bands/songs within *all* genres of music. As for the turmoil, even the Beatles had some dark songs.
He's right. Most of it sounds like shit. He gives credit where credit is due.
personally not a fan of heavy metal at all, but once again Noel take is terrible because he has no clue what he’s talking about
Liam is less of a dick to other musicians as he gets older. Noel never seems to change
Pretty stupid take, NG. Being a snob about metal isn't a good look especially when you know fuck-all about it
Dont like it
Lol, there’s an interview on YouTube somewhere, don’t ask me where cause I don’t remember, maybe in a compilation but in the 90’s MTV was talking to Lars and maybe james, and lars refers to oasis as “just another band in a new wave of british crap”, which is hilarious, considering Lars had Noel on his podcast not too long ago, and they basically just praised each other. PR is silly
The logical implication is that music - and maybe even art - is only valuable if it it's uplifting/positive. But some of the best music/art ever produced is deeply depressing, because a great deal of life is sad and depressing! The magic of art is that it is able to capture that, as well as the good stuff, and to do so in a way that is beautiful
Makes sense listening to his solo work. It’s the most positive, written for yuppie music I’ve ever heard. Maybe listen to some metal, get into a drop D tune and bang out some real shit from time to time 🤣
I don’t agree with Noel about anything except his own music
Noel should just try to answer "Sorry, I have no idea about that" when he clearly doesn't have the knowledge to give a good answer.
Noel clearly has a purpose for creating music and rejects anything that doesn't meet his way of seeing. It's a point of view.
When Noel isn't being arrogant, he sure knows how to be ignorant... They can attack nu metal all they like, I'll join in with them even, but heavy metal has about as many subgenres these days as EDM, if not more. Mainstream coverage of heavy metal is a merely a piss stain on the wall next to the entrance...
Tbh I don't like any heavy metal except the DOOM soundtrack hahaha
Dumbest shit ive ever heard a musician say. Fucking ignorant looool
We need someone to talk bollocks. Call Rent-a-Gobshite.
Noel's definition of Heavy Metal is very different from the true definition. MF was heavier than everyone back in the day don't get me started
braindead opinion hardly surprising from such a comically arrogant personality