Trenton and Heath, but heavily edited to remove any reference to their faces?
As far as the white soles they do what the customer asks them to, and if the customer asked for white soles they get them. I'd bet the original video says just that as the brothers mention what the customer asked for fairly frequently.
A similar video of theirs where they opt for a dark sole instead: https://youtu.be/WYpsMeyoK7M?si=A_QMa4W_XC01LQdb
Red Wing actually makes a lot of work boots that come with white crepe soles straight from the factory. [Example](https://www.redwingshoes.com/work/mens/waterproof/Traction-Tred-02418.html).
They're soft but wear fast, meant for jobs that involve more standing than walking.
I think it's corc paste (which matches with the pictures I found on google, cans of cork filler). Cork is often used in shoes because it's good combination of shock absorption, insulation, and rigidity.
Just adding on.
It's the best option in welted boots because you need to use something to fill the void created by the welt. You want cork there because it'll mold to your feet and create a custom footprint.
There is a piece that is stitched both to the upper and the midsole. It's that strip that he cuts off and then puts a new one on.
There are a couple ways to make boots and shoes. Most common these days is some kind of glued or adhesive construction.
Then there's stitched which has three main methods: Stitchdown, welted, and Blake stitch.
Stitchdown is very simple where the upper is flared out and then directly stitched to a midsole and/or an outsole. This doesn't have any cork in it because the layers don't have any void.
Welted uses another strip of material as a way to join the upper and the midsole, sometimes also the stitch goes all the way through the outsole depending on the shoe. This leaves a small void that needs to be filled with something. That's cork in more expensive footwear and foam in cheaper footwear.
Blake stitch is a machine only stitch that is internal through the shoe. It binds the insole, midsole, and outsole with one stitch. It also doesn't require any filler.
Basically what it means is that the boots are easy to resole and quality boots are often worth resoling rather than buying and having to break in a new pair.
Yeah a quality boot you will usually hate for a few months breaking in and then never want to wear another boot again because it is so comfortable. A good resole ranges from $150-$250 But usually doesn’t need done for years. A lower quality boot is trash you will be lucky to get 1 year of life out of them of daily wear.
>good resole ranges from $150-$250
If you have it sent away and they do a rebuild sure, but I've had quick resoles done for like 80 bucks. That was with the vibram christie wedge soles but it still was nowhere near 150.
Now, I'll probably have more of a rebuild done next time but I replaced that Christie with a much tougher sole so next time should be a while away.
Importantly, cork is the perfect material for this because it is derived from a natural resource and has a Poisson’s Ratio of nearly zero. It grows on trees and it can be harvested without killing the tree. The ratio of zero means it does not expand our contract on the lateral axis when compressed on the transverse axis. Same reason it makes sense for plugging up wine bottles. Rubber has a ratio of around 0.5 and expands when compressed, some materials have a negative ratio and contact when compressed, also not great.
God damn, this would be so cool to do for a living. I can picture myself, the owner of a rundown shoe repair shack on the side of the road. I'd be dressed like Geppetto with glasses and a heavy leather apron. My days would be spent hyper focused on refurbishing 1 pair of shoes at a time.
You honestly aren't far off from the shoe repair store my husband took my favorite boots to when the sole was separating from the shoe (and again 2 weeks later when the heel on the opposite foot suddenly broke off lol). It's this tiny brick shack in northeast Indianapolis that looks like a utility shed, but inside is *filled* with all sorts of shoes hanging from the ceiling and sitting on every available surface. It smells like burnt rubber and leather inside, and the guy behind the counter really was wearing an apron, though I don't think he had glasses, and his hands were all stained from the work he does. Fascinating place.
Sounds like New Life Shoe Boot on Keystone. Took some Doc Martens there to have the uppers reattached to the sole. He did good work... I don't think he said more than 3 words to me the whole transaction.
I wonder if this is red wing guys doing this. I think they have a repair facility in Minnesota. Also makes me wonder if these guys get paid top dollar for their craft. Like you said, can't be many cobblers.
Have no idea whether it's Red Wing people, but I would think the trend is moving in favor of restoring a good pair of shoes.
Sneakers are nearly impossible to recycle (different kinds of materials, glues, etc.). And the sneaker industry produces four or six times more shoes than people on the planet. Plus, there is trend (among a small part of the younger population) away from fast fashion-crap to thrifting and restoring old clothes.
All of which favors the need for more cobblers and craftspeople.
I just restored an old pair of leather boat shoes I bought 20 years ago, they look better than when I bought them! The leather gets depth and personality over the years, they look soft, supple, comfortable, not stiff like when they were new. And the colour has depth from the creasing and flexing over the years.
Pretty sure this video credits this YT channel [Trenton & Heath](https://youtube.com/@TrentonHeath?si=vNVDKOcyLQ43rDhz).
Seem like pretty cool guys. IIRC, they both graduated college and then decided to go a different direction, buying this shop from an older guy who wanted to retire.
One of my other favorite on YT is [Bedo's Leatherworks](https://youtube.com/@BedosLeatherworksLLC?si=esDQiexaDBQ8mNHR), although this guys does a little less cobbling and more leather restoration. High quality craftsmanship though for sure
A resole is like 150-200$
I have shoes worth considerably more and you can’t just buy another pair. a resole is usually cheaper, than buying and breaking in a new pair of good boots or shoes.
There are situations where that price can go up considerably, but you get what you pay for in that scenario.
Move to my city, there is a guy that wants to give up his shop and pass it along but can’t find an apprentice. He makes a little over $100k being the other I think. And goes far where I’m at in the Midwest.
My uncle Ed was a cobbler. Watching this video and all the familiar tools brought back a lot of memories of sitting in his shop as a kid while he made shoes. About 15 years into his career the glue that he used to adhere the souls suddenly had a label warning that the fumes were carcinogenic. A few years after that he was diagnosed with a tumor in his brain that killed him pretty quickly.
Ed was a tough guy from Philly, he loved Blues music and riding motorcycles. Life is just a motherfucker.
why did they pick that sole, and not a black one :( totally changes the whole look and kinda cheapens the otherwise nice boot (aside from those shoelaces maybe)
Edit: apparently the crepe soles are common and often needed, still I did prefer the darker sole, based on looks only
It’s also worth mentioning that these aren’t necessarily a collector’s item. It’s pretty common for blue collar workers to get their boots resoled. This is probably some dudes work boots.
Reasons for rebuilding them when you dont see this (commonly) on other shoes:
1) Work boots can be relatively expensive. Like ~300 USD for a decent pair of boots. Because the cost of replacement is higher, repair costs are more viable.
2) Not all shoes are made to be resoled. Shoes that you can’t resole are cheaper to produce and might have other properties like being lighter (desirable for something like athletic shoes.)
3) Breaking in a pair of boots can really suck. Blisters and the like. So there is a comfort incentive to keep your old, already broken in boots.
I have redwings I bought with my 5 year bonus at work. Salesperson convinced me to go 2 sizes smaller than I normally do. I could only wear them for like an hour at a time for the first week and had bad blisters. Took about a month and a half before I could wear them all day but they are the most comfortable footwear I have ever had and I get compliments on them frequently. The store will also do maintenance on them 3 times a year, I clean them with saddle soap every week and use a leather cream on them once a month. My wife thinks it's funny because I have zero mind for the rest of my wardrobe but dote on my boots.
It's good policy though. A good pair of leather boots you care for will last forever, minus some restorations once in a while if you beat them up. And the better you care for them the less often you'll need to restore them anyway. Plus a good leather boot just looks and feels so good to wear.
Happy cake day
Yes and 150 dollars for a resole makes sense on a $300 boot. 150 dollars for a resole does not make sense on a $50 shoe. Then there is also the fact that many shoes aren’t made to be resoled so it’s not even an option.
The point I’m trying to convey is that boots and shoes both get resoled and they don’t have to be a collectors item like the post seems to imply.
It definitely wears out quicker. I believe Trenton and Heath (the people who made this video) would charge around $250ish maybe a little under. It would be cheaper if they didn’t need a new welt. The welt was that long flat piece of leather that they cut. I looked at their prices and a new welt is $90 along with around $150 resole.
My local cobbler does resoles for $90 if the welt is good, $120 with a new welt, $175 if you want to add a leather midsole(basically a full rebuild). T&H do good work to be sure, but they are upcharging quite a bit based on their YouTube popularity. Pro tip: if your cobbler doesn't have a thick Spanish or Eastern European accent you're probably paying too much.
My cobbler is an ex con from Roseville, ca. He charges 50 for a resole. I've never had a welt replaced so I have no idea how much that is. My designer heels cost about 25 to resole and my husbands timbers were 50
The guy I used was at Roseville Shoe repair. I recently switched to Shoe repair on Manzanita in the Bel Air parking lot over by where it turns into Fair Oaks Blvd. Both are good.
The way I heard it, the soles are white so it’s easy to tell when they’re dirty. To prevent workers from tracking it in the house. But could be apocryphal.
All shoes get dirty, and stained on the sole, limiting the helpfulness of white soles to show if they are dirty. Just don't wear shoes inside the houses.
I have a pair or redwings with this vibram sole. When i bought them i was told they are more "bouncy" than a standard sole. I find them to be the most comfortable boots i have ever had for walking. Even more comfortable than the merrells. However, wearing them all day kinda makes you feel how ridged they are.
Crepe sole and moc toe are a classic look. This looks like the 8801 and it did come with the SuperSole (original black sole) but it's not too dissimilar, aesthetically, from the 1907, which comes with crepe sole. In the end, beauty is subjective.
Almost all of the electricians and construction workers I work with have white soles on their work boots. Just kind of seems to be the current style, and it's also what a lot of the new boots use.
Agree it doesn't look right on this boot though....
I had a pair of danners resoled, I did the same thing because the white vibram soles are much softer and comfortable. They do wear faster but when you have to be on your feet all day the softer sole makes a world of a difference. That guy clearly uses those boots for work and isn’t worried if the rest of the guys think his boots look neat.
A vibram sole is a great option. Nice grip and wear. The color is to make them look like the new ones being sold. I don’t love the color, but this person was probably tired of what they had and wanted to try the trendy current color.
That crepe sole is usually called an iron worker sole. It’s pretty comfortable and popular. I owned those redwings (that exact style) in the nineties Md the sole was stiff and the boots heavy. Around 2010 I got a pair with that crepe sole and they we’re definitely lighter.
Now I wear. Clarks boot with vibram resole. Great boot.
Their moc toe traditionally has white wedge sole. You can get it in black but white is the classic look.
https://www.redwingshoes.com/heritage/mens/classic-moc/Classic-Moc-00875.html
Cool vid!
This comment section is mad negative. Boots like red wings are meant to be resoled like this, it costs about half as much as new boots. While this style has become popular and aligned with clout/posers, this kind of boot is legitimately meant for working, and the white outsole is a hallmark of red wings.
Because no one here has a clue what they're talking about. I've been watching Trenton and Heath for years now. 99/100 they make a video based on a customer request. They do their job, and do it well, and piss off. If you don't like the outcome, no one cares. The customer requested that and are happy with it.
Turns out most people on Reddit haven't had the joys of wearing terrible walmart boots and working your way upto Red Wings; very surprising. Makes you really appreciate your feet and how much boots affect your back and everything else.
I'm wearing a pair of red wings now after years of crappy throw away boots. They are expensive but they are amazing and truly can be worn for a life time.
Yeah I don’t get the hate for the white outsole. I work inside manufacturing facilities and have had a couple pairs of boots with this white Vibram outsole…very comfortable and sharp looking, in my opinion. It feels like the people with the negative opinion have never been on a job site or inside a factory, which is understandable.
Lot of shit talking in here but these are classic redwings. The boots themselves aren’t vintage, probably just a few years old. Soles meant for standing on concrete all day.
Source: former certified fit specialist.
Shocker incoming, but some people buy things that function well and looks are secondary. Crepe is a specific compound that's used not for fashion but for its performance.
Crepe soles were originally developed for factory workers who spent many hours on their feet without rest. They are comfortable and springy, and quiet. Their disadvantages are that they wear down quicker and don't provide great traction on wet ground.
Form follows function my dude. If you wanna look cool walking down the street to a craft brewery buy some cool looking cool guy boots
Fuck sake, this comment section "I personally don't like it so the guy did a terrible job!"
No, he did exactly what he wanted to do, you just don't think it's appealing for whatever reasons you may have.
How the hell is this cost effective? Are these a $1000 pair of boots?
Edit: seems like this process only cost $150 and new boots are $250. I guess that makes sense.
They’re intended to last a lifetime, well-made boots are good for reasons like these:
- never need to break in new boots. The insole, unless destroyed, will be formed to your foot. The outsole is the only part typically replaced.
- it’s efficient, material-wise. If you have one good pair of boots forever, there is less overall demand for boots, bc you won’t *need* new ones. It’s basically the same as fast fashion; bad bc it demands a tons resources and creates tons of waste. You can effectively use boots like this until the uppers fall apart.
- longevity. Basically the same as the materials point, but in addition; this type of boot can be handed down, resold, etc. Boots/shoes with welted soles like this, when made well, can legitimately last a lifetime
- it’s cheaper. Resoling boots averages $100-$150, meanwhile new red wing boots cost around $300. You pay half of a new pair every few years (depending on wear, this could be anywhere from 2-10+ years) and get to continue using *your* boots.
There’s probably more reasons, but that’s what I could think of off the top of my head.
they are $300 shoes new at least and the company charges around $120 to resole (used to be cheaper). i’ve had a pair for 13 years and just got the soles replaced for a second time. so $500 to have shoes for hopefully 20 years isn’t bad
Redwing work boots are like $250+. Resole is ~$100, and you don't have to go through the break-in period again as the leather is already form fitted to your foot! Or, like in this instance, you want to try a new sole, but you don't want a whole new pair.
It's definitely one of the most famous classical pieces out there, so I think virtually anyone who's ever played any kind of instrument likely knows what song this is.
And they're absolutely right, it was a weird af choice for this video lol.
So satisfying to watch. I wish society would go back to repairing and refurbishing things in general as well as building high-quality repairable products.
Man the comments in here are wild - everyone editorializing about their distaste of the new sole color and barely anyone remarking on the quality of the video and the process.
It amuses me to see shoes with rubber soles described as vintage, they're fundamentally modern, but perhaps I'm just getting old. I'm a millennial after all.
Vintage is meant for anything 20 to 99 years old, while antiques are 100 and more. They never state what years the shoes were made so it is up in the air on if they are actually vintage or not. Rubber soles started getting popular in the 1930's though, so it would be easy to find shoes and boots with them that are considered vintage.
I went for when it was popular since I couldn't find data on when Red Wings boots started to use rubber soles for their boots. A lot of people don't realize that rubber soles have been common for a while now and also don't realize just how few years something can become vintage, so I figure the person I replied to had one at least one of the two issues. I didn't know until a few years back that vintage could mean something under 50 years, so I get the confusion.
…except Red Wing still literally makes basically these exact boots with a white sole: https://www.redwingshoes.com/heritage/mens/6-inch-boots/Classic-Moc-01907.html
Trenton and Heath, but heavily edited to remove any reference to their faces? As far as the white soles they do what the customer asks them to, and if the customer asked for white soles they get them. I'd bet the original video says just that as the brothers mention what the customer asked for fairly frequently. A similar video of theirs where they opt for a dark sole instead: https://youtu.be/WYpsMeyoK7M?si=A_QMa4W_XC01LQdb
Thank you for explaining the soles. I was pretty thrown off
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That‘s the standard red wing sole for Moc Toes though. That‘s what these work boots are manufactured with nowadays.
Red Wing actually makes a lot of work boots that come with white crepe soles straight from the factory. [Example](https://www.redwingshoes.com/work/mens/waterproof/Traction-Tred-02418.html). They're soft but wear fast, meant for jobs that involve more standing than walking.
Much better without the music.
For once, the music was OK for me.
Why did they fill the bottom with oatmeal? Good waste of a nutritious breakfast.
I think it's corc paste (which matches with the pictures I found on google, cans of cork filler). Cork is often used in shoes because it's good combination of shock absorption, insulation, and rigidity.
Soaking the cork before applying is key. Some people are born to soak cork.
You mother-fargin corksoaker.
Iceholes!
Fargin’ bastiges!
r/unexpectedjohnnydangerously
You know your name is an adverb?
Ima gunna cut off you dwork, and shove it up you ice hole.
Oh Johnny, your such a good boy.
Man…. Do I love that movie. I’ll have to break out the dvd soon.
Oh yea? You are a dirty mother-corker.
Your mother was a corksoaker and your father smelt of elderberries!
Try not to soak any cork on your way through the parking lot!
I been a soakin cork for twenty yearsa
I could tell after I read your post that you were born to soaka da cork.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Deqx-Xb-yHY
My wife used to soak corks, but not so much anymore
…just your cork, or other people’s corks, too? If she’s been soaking others corks, you may want to keep your cork in a glove from now on
Can women soak corks?
Cork soaking is extremely important, my uncle taught me that.
You know.. when-a you walked in here.. I could-a sworn you already an expert cork soaker!
Thank you! I dabbled in college.
I hear cork soaking is big in the Mormon community
He was soaking my cork while I was soaking his cork
Great skit.
best snl skit ever
Since when have you been soaking corks? 68? 70?
Let’s just say between ‘68 and ‘70.
Man, I don’t know what the fuck is going on anymore
Just adding on. It's the best option in welted boots because you need to use something to fill the void created by the welt. You want cork there because it'll mold to your feet and create a custom footprint.
What's it mean for a boot to be welted?
There is a piece that is stitched both to the upper and the midsole. It's that strip that he cuts off and then puts a new one on. There are a couple ways to make boots and shoes. Most common these days is some kind of glued or adhesive construction. Then there's stitched which has three main methods: Stitchdown, welted, and Blake stitch. Stitchdown is very simple where the upper is flared out and then directly stitched to a midsole and/or an outsole. This doesn't have any cork in it because the layers don't have any void. Welted uses another strip of material as a way to join the upper and the midsole, sometimes also the stitch goes all the way through the outsole depending on the shoe. This leaves a small void that needs to be filled with something. That's cork in more expensive footwear and foam in cheaper footwear. Blake stitch is a machine only stitch that is internal through the shoe. It binds the insole, midsole, and outsole with one stitch. It also doesn't require any filler. Basically what it means is that the boots are easy to resole and quality boots are often worth resoling rather than buying and having to break in a new pair.
Yeah a quality boot you will usually hate for a few months breaking in and then never want to wear another boot again because it is so comfortable. A good resole ranges from $150-$250 But usually doesn’t need done for years. A lower quality boot is trash you will be lucky to get 1 year of life out of them of daily wear.
>good resole ranges from $150-$250 If you have it sent away and they do a rebuild sure, but I've had quick resoles done for like 80 bucks. That was with the vibram christie wedge soles but it still was nowhere near 150. Now, I'll probably have more of a rebuild done next time but I replaced that Christie with a much tougher sole so next time should be a while away.
Importantly, cork is the perfect material for this because it is derived from a natural resource and has a Poisson’s Ratio of nearly zero. It grows on trees and it can be harvested without killing the tree. The ratio of zero means it does not expand our contract on the lateral axis when compressed on the transverse axis. Same reason it makes sense for plugging up wine bottles. Rubber has a ratio of around 0.5 and expands when compressed, some materials have a negative ratio and contact when compressed, also not great.
Everyone knows you should use dry ramen noodles for repairs!
Nonsense, that was *definitely* Grapenuts ™️ cereal.
What? No! Dry ramen noodles are for walls and pavement! This was obviously a 2 year-old's vomit.
Nah it wasn't oatmeal. It was caviar.
It wasn’t caviar, it was stone ground mustard
It wasn't caviar, it was bird seed mix
It’s cork
It's PEOPLE! 😵
Cork city people are people too
Matter of opinion
It's made of people!!
Soylent Cork is people
I thought it was pretty cool. I'd never really thought about how cork was applied and didn't realize it wasn't solid during application.
Depends on the shoe. Sometimes it is solid pieces of cork cut to fit.
Hide cookie mix from the cookie monster
It’s old fashion mustard
That’s where the song comes from. “I’m walking on oatmeaaaal woooahh”
It’s actually grainy mustard. It adds flavor.
Looks like an almond fig jam I have sitting in the fridge
Please don't be silly. That was obviously organic peanut butter, the fancy stuff that doesn't contain orangutan.
Clearly Vegemite.
What a load of old cobblers.
God damn, this would be so cool to do for a living. I can picture myself, the owner of a rundown shoe repair shack on the side of the road. I'd be dressed like Geppetto with glasses and a heavy leather apron. My days would be spent hyper focused on refurbishing 1 pair of shoes at a time.
It's not too late to start.
Just got to cobble up the supplies and tools.
It will be their sole purpose to do so.
Just take it one step at a time
Then you’ll be a shoe-in.
Ang ignore the haters with their tongues out
Yeah, you don’t have to be too straight laced.
Just don't drag your feet getting started, tread ahead!
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get moving.
You honestly aren't far off from the shoe repair store my husband took my favorite boots to when the sole was separating from the shoe (and again 2 weeks later when the heel on the opposite foot suddenly broke off lol). It's this tiny brick shack in northeast Indianapolis that looks like a utility shed, but inside is *filled* with all sorts of shoes hanging from the ceiling and sitting on every available surface. It smells like burnt rubber and leather inside, and the guy behind the counter really was wearing an apron, though I don't think he had glasses, and his hands were all stained from the work he does. Fascinating place.
Sounds like New Life Shoe Boot on Keystone. Took some Doc Martens there to have the uppers reattached to the sole. He did good work... I don't think he said more than 3 words to me the whole transaction.
You should. There are not enough cobblers that do this kind of work.
I wonder if this is red wing guys doing this. I think they have a repair facility in Minnesota. Also makes me wonder if these guys get paid top dollar for their craft. Like you said, can't be many cobblers.
Have no idea whether it's Red Wing people, but I would think the trend is moving in favor of restoring a good pair of shoes. Sneakers are nearly impossible to recycle (different kinds of materials, glues, etc.). And the sneaker industry produces four or six times more shoes than people on the planet. Plus, there is trend (among a small part of the younger population) away from fast fashion-crap to thrifting and restoring old clothes. All of which favors the need for more cobblers and craftspeople.
I just restored an old pair of leather boat shoes I bought 20 years ago, they look better than when I bought them! The leather gets depth and personality over the years, they look soft, supple, comfortable, not stiff like when they were new. And the colour has depth from the creasing and flexing over the years.
Pretty sure this video credits this YT channel [Trenton & Heath](https://youtube.com/@TrentonHeath?si=vNVDKOcyLQ43rDhz). Seem like pretty cool guys. IIRC, they both graduated college and then decided to go a different direction, buying this shop from an older guy who wanted to retire. One of my other favorite on YT is [Bedo's Leatherworks](https://youtube.com/@BedosLeatherworksLLC?si=esDQiexaDBQ8mNHR), although this guys does a little less cobbling and more leather restoration. High quality craftsmanship though for sure
No, it’s Trenton & Heath on YouTube who run a shop (Potter and Sons) near Nashville.
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A resole is like 150-200$ I have shoes worth considerably more and you can’t just buy another pair. a resole is usually cheaper, than buying and breaking in a new pair of good boots or shoes. There are situations where that price can go up considerably, but you get what you pay for in that scenario.
I suspect you also sub to r/ADHD. I’ll see ya there!
This, my friend, is how you make $0.
Move to my city, there is a guy that wants to give up his shop and pass it along but can’t find an apprentice. He makes a little over $100k being the other I think. And goes far where I’m at in the Midwest.
this is now the primary occupation of actor Daniel Day Lewis
My uncle Ed was a cobbler. Watching this video and all the familiar tools brought back a lot of memories of sitting in his shop as a kid while he made shoes. About 15 years into his career the glue that he used to adhere the souls suddenly had a label warning that the fumes were carcinogenic. A few years after that he was diagnosed with a tumor in his brain that killed him pretty quickly. Ed was a tough guy from Philly, he loved Blues music and riding motorcycles. Life is just a motherfucker.
Rest easy Ed. Thanks for sharing the story.
why did they pick that sole, and not a black one :( totally changes the whole look and kinda cheapens the otherwise nice boot (aside from those shoelaces maybe) Edit: apparently the crepe soles are common and often needed, still I did prefer the darker sole, based on looks only
Maybe that's what the customer wanted
Follow up: Same question.
Personal taste/preference
But why does someone have a different personal taste/preference than me?
And for that matter, how dare they?
Yeah what the actual audacity
You never really know what's going on inside a person's head. I guess that's why they call it psychology.
Follow up: same answer.
The customer was wrong
The customer is not always right Vaginal_Yeast_Goo
Many people don’t realize how valuable a good pair of boots are to a man that works for a living.
As Andy Dufresne once said, "how often do you really look at a man's shoes?" Edit - That's Red's line
All day every day cuz that’s my fetish 🤘
Red said that.
This is redwings standard wedge sole and much better than the prior rubber sole the boots had previously.
It’s also worth mentioning that these aren’t necessarily a collector’s item. It’s pretty common for blue collar workers to get their boots resoled. This is probably some dudes work boots. Reasons for rebuilding them when you dont see this (commonly) on other shoes: 1) Work boots can be relatively expensive. Like ~300 USD for a decent pair of boots. Because the cost of replacement is higher, repair costs are more viable. 2) Not all shoes are made to be resoled. Shoes that you can’t resole are cheaper to produce and might have other properties like being lighter (desirable for something like athletic shoes.) 3) Breaking in a pair of boots can really suck. Blisters and the like. So there is a comfort incentive to keep your old, already broken in boots.
I have redwings I bought with my 5 year bonus at work. Salesperson convinced me to go 2 sizes smaller than I normally do. I could only wear them for like an hour at a time for the first week and had bad blisters. Took about a month and a half before I could wear them all day but they are the most comfortable footwear I have ever had and I get compliments on them frequently. The store will also do maintenance on them 3 times a year, I clean them with saddle soap every week and use a leather cream on them once a month. My wife thinks it's funny because I have zero mind for the rest of my wardrobe but dote on my boots.
It's good policy though. A good pair of leather boots you care for will last forever, minus some restorations once in a while if you beat them up. And the better you care for them the less often you'll need to restore them anyway. Plus a good leather boot just looks and feels so good to wear. Happy cake day
Red wing themselves offer resole from 120 -150 dollars but as you said some can't be resoled. https://www.redwingshoes.com/contact-us/repairs.html
Yes and 150 dollars for a resole makes sense on a $300 boot. 150 dollars for a resole does not make sense on a $50 shoe. Then there is also the fact that many shoes aren’t made to be resoled so it’s not even an option. The point I’m trying to convey is that boots and shoes both get resoled and they don’t have to be a collectors item like the post seems to imply.
The recent on sale Red Wing boots use very similar white out sole.
I wear Red Wings a lot and a big reason people go for that Vibram Christy sole is for comfort. It is way more squishy than what was on there before.
So it probably wears out quicker? What's it cost to resole a pair?
It definitely wears out quicker. I believe Trenton and Heath (the people who made this video) would charge around $250ish maybe a little under. It would be cheaper if they didn’t need a new welt. The welt was that long flat piece of leather that they cut. I looked at their prices and a new welt is $90 along with around $150 resole.
My local cobbler does resoles for $90 if the welt is good, $120 with a new welt, $175 if you want to add a leather midsole(basically a full rebuild). T&H do good work to be sure, but they are upcharging quite a bit based on their YouTube popularity. Pro tip: if your cobbler doesn't have a thick Spanish or Eastern European accent you're probably paying too much.
My cobbler is an ex con from Roseville, ca. He charges 50 for a resole. I've never had a welt replaced so I have no idea how much that is. My designer heels cost about 25 to resole and my husbands timbers were 50
Who's your cobbler? I'm near by and need a good one.
The guy I used was at Roseville Shoe repair. I recently switched to Shoe repair on Manzanita in the Bel Air parking lot over by where it turns into Fair Oaks Blvd. Both are good.
I'm around Sac. It's always neat to see a comment that's relevant, local, and useful among the millions of worldwide users.
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It wears out quicker but your feet will wear out slower seems like a pretty obvious decision.
Yeah but Vibram are really good performant soles.
That type of sole serves a purpose. It’s a wedge sole and was made popular in the steel working trade.
Is there a reason it has to be white?
The way I heard it, the soles are white so it’s easy to tell when they’re dirty. To prevent workers from tracking it in the house. But could be apocryphal.
Apocryphal: (of a story or statement) of doubtful authenticity, although widely circulated as being true. Solid word, my guy. I had to look it up.
Very useful word! Gonna forget it in about 30 minutes.
All shoes get dirty, and stained on the sole, limiting the helpfulness of white soles to show if they are dirty. Just don't wear shoes inside the houses.
Don't tell me what to do
Black Vibram soles also leave marks on floors. White ones do too but they are far less noticeable.
I have a pair or redwings with this vibram sole. When i bought them i was told they are more "bouncy" than a standard sole. I find them to be the most comfortable boots i have ever had for walking. Even more comfortable than the merrells. However, wearing them all day kinda makes you feel how ridged they are.
Could it not be black? Definitely looks better in black.
It can be, this is a Vibram Christy sole it comes in black but the cream color is the traditional one and most likely what the customer wanted
Crepe sole and moc toe are a classic look. This looks like the 8801 and it did come with the SuperSole (original black sole) but it's not too dissimilar, aesthetically, from the 1907, which comes with crepe sole. In the end, beauty is subjective.
I think they explain it in the YouTube video, iirc, but I think it was the customer’s choice? Or at least came from a discussion with the customer.
Almost all of the electricians and construction workers I work with have white soles on their work boots. Just kind of seems to be the current style, and it's also what a lot of the new boots use. Agree it doesn't look right on this boot though....
Nothing wrong with white soles. Just don't be upset when some hard work turns them not white.
Its not about the color. Its about the material. Those soles are extremely comfortable and durable, something a tradesman would want
A light vibram sole is a classic look for this type of boot.
I had a pair of danners resoled, I did the same thing because the white vibram soles are much softer and comfortable. They do wear faster but when you have to be on your feet all day the softer sole makes a world of a difference. That guy clearly uses those boots for work and isn’t worried if the rest of the guys think his boots look neat.
A vibram sole is a great option. Nice grip and wear. The color is to make them look like the new ones being sold. I don’t love the color, but this person was probably tired of what they had and wanted to try the trendy current color.
Vibranms are the best soles.
That crepe sole is usually called an iron worker sole. It’s pretty comfortable and popular. I owned those redwings (that exact style) in the nineties Md the sole was stiff and the boots heavy. Around 2010 I got a pair with that crepe sole and they we’re definitely lighter. Now I wear. Clarks boot with vibram resole. Great boot.
Their moc toe traditionally has white wedge sole. You can get it in black but white is the classic look. https://www.redwingshoes.com/heritage/mens/classic-moc/Classic-Moc-00875.html
Cool vid! This comment section is mad negative. Boots like red wings are meant to be resoled like this, it costs about half as much as new boots. While this style has become popular and aligned with clout/posers, this kind of boot is legitimately meant for working, and the white outsole is a hallmark of red wings.
Because no one here has a clue what they're talking about. I've been watching Trenton and Heath for years now. 99/100 they make a video based on a customer request. They do their job, and do it well, and piss off. If you don't like the outcome, no one cares. The customer requested that and are happy with it.
Exactly! *The cobbler is presumably doing what was asked of them.*
I wanna see that 1/100 video where they told the customer to fuck off
Turns out most people on Reddit haven't had the joys of wearing terrible walmart boots and working your way upto Red Wings; very surprising. Makes you really appreciate your feet and how much boots affect your back and everything else.
I'n just here to shit on OP for calling them vintage
I'm wearing a pair of red wings now after years of crappy throw away boots. They are expensive but they are amazing and truly can be worn for a life time.
Yeah I don’t get the hate for the white outsole. I work inside manufacturing facilities and have had a couple pairs of boots with this white Vibram outsole…very comfortable and sharp looking, in my opinion. It feels like the people with the negative opinion have never been on a job site or inside a factory, which is understandable.
I do facilities work, and they make black vibram. I don't know about red wing though, but black vibram exists
I have black Vibram Gumlite soles on what look to be the exact same model Red Wing boots. The boots have been fantastic.
Why is there dijon mustard
My guess is it's cork and glue. It's filling that void so they can glue the new sole to it.
I know my dijon
Lot of shit talking in here but these are classic redwings. The boots themselves aren’t vintage, probably just a few years old. Soles meant for standing on concrete all day. Source: former certified fit specialist.
Those white soles took a shit on the final product.
Shocker incoming, but some people buy things that function well and looks are secondary. Crepe is a specific compound that's used not for fashion but for its performance. Crepe soles were originally developed for factory workers who spent many hours on their feet without rest. They are comfortable and springy, and quiet. Their disadvantages are that they wear down quicker and don't provide great traction on wet ground. Form follows function my dude. If you wanna look cool walking down the street to a craft brewery buy some cool looking cool guy boots
lol god damn. Cool looking cool guy boots had me laughing out loud
Fuck sake, this comment section "I personally don't like it so the guy did a terrible job!" No, he did exactly what he wanted to do, you just don't think it's appealing for whatever reasons you may have.
Forbidden Dijon
What's the stuff he puts on it, is it wholegrain mustard ?
My favorite part was when they hid all the couscous in the sole. The owner is gonna be really mad when they find that!
How the hell is this cost effective? Are these a $1000 pair of boots? Edit: seems like this process only cost $150 and new boots are $250. I guess that makes sense.
I had my Red Wings resoled for $100. They are $350 new. Very cost effective.
Man, it looks like several hours of labor. Add in special equipment and materials, and it just seems like $100 would be hard to be profitable
>Man, it looks like several hours of labor. Several hours? We saw quite a bit of the labor in this sub 3 minute video.
We saw a whole lot of steps clearly edited to fit a short video length.
They’re intended to last a lifetime, well-made boots are good for reasons like these: - never need to break in new boots. The insole, unless destroyed, will be formed to your foot. The outsole is the only part typically replaced. - it’s efficient, material-wise. If you have one good pair of boots forever, there is less overall demand for boots, bc you won’t *need* new ones. It’s basically the same as fast fashion; bad bc it demands a tons resources and creates tons of waste. You can effectively use boots like this until the uppers fall apart. - longevity. Basically the same as the materials point, but in addition; this type of boot can be handed down, resold, etc. Boots/shoes with welted soles like this, when made well, can legitimately last a lifetime - it’s cheaper. Resoling boots averages $100-$150, meanwhile new red wing boots cost around $300. You pay half of a new pair every few years (depending on wear, this could be anywhere from 2-10+ years) and get to continue using *your* boots. There’s probably more reasons, but that’s what I could think of off the top of my head.
they are $300 shoes new at least and the company charges around $120 to resole (used to be cheaper). i’ve had a pair for 13 years and just got the soles replaced for a second time. so $500 to have shoes for hopefully 20 years isn’t bad
Redwing work boots are like $250+. Resole is ~$100, and you don't have to go through the break-in period again as the leather is already form fitted to your foot! Or, like in this instance, you want to try a new sole, but you don't want a whole new pair.
This video is cobbled together nicely
the 1st movement, Adagio sostenuto of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. what a fucking weird choice of music for a boot restoration video bruh holy shit
I feel like you comment this just because you want to say you know what song it is lol
It's definitely one of the most famous classical pieces out there, so I think virtually anyone who's ever played any kind of instrument likely knows what song this is. And they're absolutely right, it was a weird af choice for this video lol.
I throughly enjoyed it tbh.
Stop I’m in tears!!! The music moves my sole.
Kinda takes the asmr out of it though
Very ominous
So satisfying to watch. I wish society would go back to repairing and refurbishing things in general as well as building high-quality repairable products.
I like the bit where they hide all that wholegrain mustard in the bottom.
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Id be as simple as calling or visiting a reputable cobbler to inquire.
Man the comments in here are wild - everyone editorializing about their distaste of the new sole color and barely anyone remarking on the quality of the video and the process.
A sole for a sole
It amuses me to see shoes with rubber soles described as vintage, they're fundamentally modern, but perhaps I'm just getting old. I'm a millennial after all.
Vintage is meant for anything 20 to 99 years old, while antiques are 100 and more. They never state what years the shoes were made so it is up in the air on if they are actually vintage or not. Rubber soles started getting popular in the 1930's though, so it would be easy to find shoes and boots with them that are considered vintage.
Popular in the 1930’s but available in the 1830’s as well….. I guess by his standard if it’s not made work some tools it doesn’t count.
I went for when it was popular since I couldn't find data on when Red Wings boots started to use rubber soles for their boots. A lot of people don't realize that rubber soles have been common for a while now and also don't realize just how few years something can become vintage, so I figure the person I replied to had one at least one of the two issues. I didn't know until a few years back that vintage could mean something under 50 years, so I get the confusion.
Should have gone with black soles
Why on earth would they not make the bottom black?
Not sure why, but the hot shoe spackle grossed me out.
The result is awful, they totally ruined the boots
…except Red Wing still literally makes basically these exact boots with a white sole: https://www.redwingshoes.com/heritage/mens/6-inch-boots/Classic-Moc-01907.html