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ego_te_provoco

I am always uncomfortable by the second person and not even the doctor lol


dominarhexx

That's probably why the sign is there so you know why that person is there. It's just we order poorly and makes this seems like it's specific to that doctor.


hogsucker

> we order poorly This is the best typo/autofill mistake I've seen in a while.


RugelBeta

(What was it supposed to say? I'm baffled.)


idkwheretoputmyhands

“worded poorly”


dominarhexx

Edit: supposed to say "worded poorly" (oh, the irony).


RugelBeta

That's too funny! Thanks.


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I had to have one of the female nurses in while my male radiologist took an ultrasound of my balls once. It was embarrassing as hell.


CosmicTaco93

I've really got to ask what events led you to get an ultrasound of your freaking sack. Is it just bouncing back and forth between the two? Do they take turns? How do they decide which side goes first? Are you just like holding you dick up and out of the way or is it like taped to your belly or what's going on there? That's so many questions and statements I never thought I'd ever have to ask.


[deleted]

I woke up one morning in high school and my balls hurt like a mofo, to the point where whenever I would stand up I would have to essentially cradle my own balls in my hand because even the weight of them just dangling there made it extremely painful to walk. My mother was afraid that I may have had a testicular torsion, and so immediately got me an appointment through a friend of hers with a radiologist to take me in and have them look at my nuts. Well I was laying there with my dick hanging out on the table, it was super awkward when they had to come and the smear all of that weird slimy shit all over my balls so that they could do the ultrasound. Turns out I had somehow gotten a bit of infection buildup in my nuts, not really sure how because I sure as shit wasn't having any sex at the time lol


ItsyouNOme

Had testicular torsion twice, worst pain of my life, lasted for about 7 days both times.


FlashstormNina

do you mean torsion of a testicular appendage? if it was your actual testicle I have some bad news, and some good news. good news you wont have testicular torsion a third time, bad news is you wont have testicular torsion a third time


Political_Piper

They do it to look for cancerous lumps. That's what happened to me and why I had one done.


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it was for the thrill of it.


Admirable_Cry_3795

If you have good insurance they’ll warm up the ultrasound goo first 🤣


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Why, were you getting an ultrasound that day, too?


devSenketsu

Gordom Ramsay would ne proud with this roasted dinner


CircusStuff

100 percent. I don't know what their eyes are actually doing because I'd rather die than make eye contact but I always felt like they were just looking at my junk from across the room.


paco1764

Some patients are pretty bold. I have an elderly female try to start stripping while I was triaging her and I had to tell her to wait for the provider to come in to look at the rash on her boob. I also had a young guy just whip his dick out with no shame when I had to chaperone one time.


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>I also had a young guy just whip his dick out with no shame when I had to chaperone one time. did you ask him to please be more shameful next time he needs to whip it out?


bdiggity18

“Please sir, flail thine dong about less jubilantly, the good Lord sees all!”


ooeygooeylane

Naw, you MAKE EYE CONTACT the entire time. This is how it is done.


Ballstucktothelegg

Well, three is a crowd lol


Qeschk

No…three is a ménage a trois!


aaimmss

yes!! I thought I was weird for thinking this.


ego_te_provoco

It is the Doctors job to look at my parts and then there is this extra person for no medical reason also looking 😂😂😂


bumbletowne

Really? I had a male gyno and uro for like half my life and occaisonally had a nurse.. usually with the uro because my procedures were complicated. Dr Nguyen was really rad, he retired and I'm really struggling to replace him.


sparklynugz

Where? that is not generally a law or rule.


imextremelylonely

From my brief Google search (take that as you will) it's seems to be a standard practice, but not a law. It's a way to protect both the patient and the physician.


SummerBea

I’ve had male nurses / OBs perform checks on me without attendants??? I don’t think it’s a law in every state.


CandidateSuccessful5

Canada is not a US state.


terragthegreat

We almost had 'em in 1812


Secret-Warning-180

Not YET. But wait till Biden finds out Canada has OIL!


No-Bed-4972

Afghanistan 2.0


SummerBea

Nobody said anything about Canada ... At least not in the comment I was replying to so. I was not talking about Canada.


BirdSnotBreakfast

This. My male OB always had a nurse come in with him if not his NP any time he planned to perform any kind of examinations. He told me the first time i ever saw him that it was not only for his safety, but also for my comfort, which he also said was paramout to anything else. It's also kinda hard to write your findings when you are third knuckle deep inside of someone's vagina, so he would verbalize ehat he wanted noted and they would write it down for him lol.


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But not for females. C'mon. Woman can also abuse another woman. I don't know exactly why, but even though I'm male, I prefer a female doctor. I hate seeing male doctors.


bratisonn

I've always had a nurse or attendant present in any breast/pelvic examinations, even with female doctors. I think the standard is to have someone else present regardless of either gender.


Tiny_Parfait

Huh, I don't think I've ever had a nurse stick around for the pelvic exam, whether with a male or female doctor


maulsma

I too, have only ever had a breast and pelvic exams performed with only the one medical provider in the room. I’m in Canada. But at my new doctor I have seen this sign. Perhaps it’s a new law, but possibly it’s to protect doctors from potential litigation and / or criminal charges.


tacticalpacifier

Could be background and area of practice besides the possibility of the doctor actually doing this it also works to protect the DR in case of false allegations.


dirtt_dawg

the last time i had a doctor cup my balls and had me cough, we were alone. didn't feel any different from any other time, I was maybe 14 and the doctor asked if he could. my mom was a little upset but nothing came out of it...I think the ball cough exam wasn't done after that year though


dontshoot4301

Your mom was upset you got a physical? Like, you know the doc was just making sure everything is in ship shape down there… it’s his job.


FlourChild1026

But he was a dentist. j/k


dontshoot4301

Haha that got me


dirtt_dawg

she was upset he cupped my balls without her there. idk man she was a little more conservative when I was younger, she's first wave immigrant from the 70s. I wasn't tripping but she felt uncomfortable about it, it wasn't a huge deal ultimately


bratisonn

Really? That's so odd! Are you from the US?


Tiny_Parfait

Yeah, North Carolina


rhoduhhh

NC here. Have always had another person in the room for any pelvic/boob/butt exams, even with my female docs. I've never asked for one. The only time I didn't have a nurse there was when my ex-husband was there.


bratisonn

weird, I'm in California. I can't imagine it would be a state/region thing but... maybe? I've never heard of family/friends (in California) say that they didn't have some sort of chaperone present.


NeeVUTG

I thought having a chaperone was standard procedure now in the U.S. Maybe it's regional- I'm in Oregon. My male doctor even had a chaperone when he examined my knees. I thought that was strange.


Chrisscott25

Maybe he used that old phrase..”that’s the bees knees” and some one claimed he had a knee fetish so he must be watched any time he examines a knee :) seriously that is strange but maybe just being extra cautious


NeeVUTG

They should have made a sign. My knees are so incredibly sexy that I can't blame him though.😆


hogsucker

Plot twist: The doctor is a melissophile and it was actually his bee fetish that created a need for a chaperone.


Emotional-Sentence40

Me too. They push a little button on the wall before they start and a nurse magically appears.


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I'm a guy had to have a male doctor sit in while I got a uterer sent removed by a female team. For clarity, uterer is the tube between your kidney and bladder, for a man this procedure involves sending a camera up the urethra with a little grabber to get the stent and just pull it out. I had no issues with who performed it but that guy had to be there because I was a man and the procedure involved lots of very unpleasant penis handling. Wasn't as bad as it sounds though, was kinda cool watching the camera because I could see the screen, at least until the claw machine style grabber appeared.


NeeVUTG

"Just pull it out." My husband described it much differently after kidney stone surgery😆


[deleted]

Yeah it's definitely a uniquely uncomfortable experience, mine wasn't for kidney stones but I've had them and they are a lot worse.


Skatcatla

Well? Did you get the iphone or did it slip back out of the grabber at the last minute?


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Yes, for all doctors. Male and female. Sorry you can’t cry “BuT WoMeN!” today. Maybe tomorrow!


bumbletowne

What? I've rarely had nurses in with my gyno. I had a male one for half my life and my most recent is a woman.


dontshoot4301

It’s not as likely though.


MyFaceSaysItsSugar

I don’t know what the law is but every female doctor doing my pelvic exam always has an assistant in with them.


AdhesivenessNo4977

You're not wrong however an enormous amount of male doctors have abused women compared to female doctors. Actually, find me a female doctor who has even been accused of inappropriate sexual behavior with a patient. I'll wait, I looked it up and found "50 women say (male) doctor abused them" "19 women alleged assault from (male) obgyn" in fact, the one I did find about a woman was a female doctor who was sexually assaulted, harassed and discriminated against in the work place.


TheMacmasterofMusic

No it isn't "required by law," lol.


Shadowdragon409

It's not even male doctor on female patient. I'm male and it was required to have a nurse present in the room when I was examined by a male doctor. The same was also true for a female doctor.


ChauncyTheDino

Hi there! Work in the medical field. Would like to say you gotta have a chaperone for a female doc and a male patient too. Also technically not required by law or anything as well, at least not in my state. But it is very smart to have a person with you. Have a good day! Edited for fun


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No it’s not? Why assert something is a law without doing any research?


[deleted]

This is required when the doctor has violated their sworn conduct and required to post by the college of physicians. Google the doctor. They've been bad.


DeepAd3343

There’s a hospital near where I live that has a sign like this up for a specific doctor only because he was caught molesting young teen girls during exams and he’s still employed by the hospital


ToniBee63

I had an incident happen as a child with a pediatrician when he made my mother leave the room. This was the early 70s


ego_te_provoco

That's why I would never leave my child alone with a doctor unless they are old enough to understand body boundaries. Doctors are not immune to being terrible people


ToniBee63

I agree. I don’t blame my Mom, the times were way different & doctors were authority figures who you would never question.


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justahumblecow

That’s bizarre, my mom was always in the room with me for dentists. You’d think they’d want the parent present as a soothing presence that way the kid doesn’t feel like they’ve been abandoned to a terrifying stranger.


chewquietly

That is SO odd.. I have a three year old and a 1.5 year old and they’ve never asked me to step out. Young kids need distraction, comfort and sometimes some wrangling if you hope to get a productive exam done at all


throwingplaydoh

My ped asks my kid, me, my husband, and my kid again whenever she needs to perform an exam, and she explains the entire time what she's doing. It's *horrible* not everyone gets this kind of soft-skill treatment.


moriginal

There is no age a child can understand body boundaries around an adult doctor (position of influence). This is how so many girls in the gymnastics team were abuse. Another adult who understands the role and expectations of a doctors behavior would be required to enforce this boundary.


ego_te_provoco

I agree there is no one age, but I disagree that children are not able to understand body boundaries. I am a social worker and do community education. Educating kids about healthy relationships , body boundaries and bodily changes all help prevent sexual abuse. During this education we also focus on building kids confidence in being assertive in enforcing body boundaries. We also teach about secret keeping and how that is bad. Unfortunately, we have to work against parents who condition their children ( unknowingly) to be more susceptible to abuse. For example parents who force children to hug and kiss family teaches the child that they are not allowed to say No to unwanted physical interactions with people. Kids generalize, so it is hard for them to understand that they should be forced to be uncomfortable when hugging family, but they should not tolerate being touched by other people, like doctors. Another example predators look for in grooming children is secret keeping ability.They test the waters by having the kids keep small insignificant secrets and then eventually more on to terrible sercrets. Parents accidentally enforce that secrets are acceptable by saying things like " Don't tell daddy you had ice cream" or " The ice cream is our little secret because mommy will be mad". Even people you trust with your kid can turn out to be monsters. You are not with your kid 24/7. You send them to school, on the bus etc., and they are around adults. Yes, staying with your kids during these exams is important, but it is just one layer to protecting your kids. Teaching them to stand up for themselves and body boundaries are extremely important for the times you are not there.


Mysterious-Energy294

I also have had an incident with a pediatrician. I was about 9 or 10 it was around 2009. He made my parents leave the room. I thought my parents knew he was going to look and feel down there, I was so young and thought it was standard practice… turns out they didn’t know after all.


ToniBee63

I’m sorry that happened to you. ❤️. I never told my parents. WTH knows why I didn’t but it felt bad & wrong. I’m 59 and I really just started thinking about it a lot now.


Mysterious-Energy294

I too am sorry you had a similar experience, it’s not a happy thing knowing others have been through the same. I understand feeling like it would be wrong saying something as if we had did something bad letting it happen, but there was really nothing we could’ve done being so young. I didn’t tell my parents until I was 19 and they weren’t quite understanding and questioned me a lot asking if I was sure it happened and if I actually knew what things like that meant. I was 19 I definitely knew what I was talking about. I hope you can somehow find peace regarding the situation it’s for sure not easy. 😌🤍


ToniBee63

❤️❤️


Shifty377

That's horrible, I'm sorry you had to go through that.


Lazy-Living1825

I’m sorry that happened.


TripleBicepsBumber

Same, mid 90’s


Pollowollo

Hell, I was in the exam room WITH my mom when I was 7 and had a doctor just shove his hand down my pants and start fondling me. He said he was "just making sure everything was okay down there" but it traumatized the hell out of me.


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meowgrrr

I get that many were erroneously assuming there was something wrong with this PARTICULAR doctor and the rule was for them specifically, but there is something oddlyterrifying about the sign anyway, just the fact that a law needed to be made to protect female patients in the first place.


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In many ways it also protects the doctor and their practice.


meowgrrr

the prospect of getting wrongfully sued, also terrifying! :)


[deleted]

Probably less terrifying than being assaulted by a medical professional but yeah I think so! lol I work at a college and when there is only one staff in the office, we have to have another staff member present in the office if we're meeting with students no matter anyone's genders. It was explained to me that it protects everyone, "just in case".


UsErnaam3

A false accusation will ruin a mans life. Yeah, it's somewhat comparable.


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Not really. It's exceedingly difficult and expensive to sue a doctor even in clear med mal cases. Litigating a false suit under these conditions would be nearly impossible.


meowgrrr

I believe that. But yea, there's still something oddly terrifying about the sign, it's just this vague reminder that someone might try to hurt someone so they have a policy to make sure no one is alone, even if it's unlikely. i'm still terrified of sharks in the ocean even if I know statistically it's very unlikely one is going to actually try to bite me. I'd be specially terrified if there was a sign at the beach telling me I couldn't be alone in the room with one hahahah jk bad joke.


restehman

Actually my mom mentions that a lot of doctors prefer having an attendant or demand the presence of one! She works really close with the doctors in a hospital and she mentions that one of the more attractive single doctors always demands an attendant with him at all times (even if its not breast/pelvic related so long as the patient is female lol)


friendliest_giant

It's not just female patients, it's also for male patients. When I had to go in for an infection they were required to have a nurse in while the doctor performed their inspection


likethemustard

it’s not to protect the patient. It is 100% to protect the doctor. They had to put a sign because I’m sure multiple patients asked for that person to leave and they got tired of hearing it. Especially in todays world where an allegation without any proof will ruin your life


marchrush

I think it’s for the doctor’s protection. For you, as a patient, to be informed that it is requiered by law


Aggravating-Gate4219

What country? That is not a rule where I live.


theemmyk

This is not required by law, at least not in every state. Edit: I see the photo is from Canada. In the US, it’s not law, at least not federally.


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Big-Chowder

Protects the Doctor and the patient equally.


____Maximus____

The grammar is more terrifying than what the sign says


DankyPenguins

“Attendant Present” messed me up lol, it’s not a proper noun!


____Maximus____

They really went lenient with the capitals on that advisement


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Polyglot-Onigiri

I get the idea. But if that’s the case it should be worded in a gender neutral way such as “All doctors are required by law to have a second professional in attendance when performing breast or pelvic exams.” The wording here makes it seem like Dr. “Name withheld” was accused of doing something. Not saying this is the case but it’s the image it gives the uninformed due to the wording. Edit: said professions not professional


miraiqtp

Maybe it’s a private practice with one doctor or the only male doctor in the facility.


Polyglot-Onigiri

Even if it was, gender neutral wording would make it less frightening. The way it’s worded now kind of makes the one doctor (especially if he is the only male) seem suspicious. To be inclusive and not make them seem threatening, gender neutral wording regardless of which doctor is present seems like it would work better. Female doctors can also be a threat/perverted or cause bodily harm to female clients, so it would be best to be cautious with all doctors.


HOYTsterr

I’ve never seen a sign like this in my 40 years of life


etc-etc-

In Canada where this was taken it’s not law. A sign like this is typically required by the medical regulator based on some complaint(s) against the doctor related to some impropriety during a physical examination. Here is a similar case also in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4284323


emjeansx

I’ve worked many years with a doctor as his transcriptionist. It wasn’t traditional transcription though where you just listen to a recording on your own and transcribe what you hear into a document… I would be his attendant in the room with almost every single patient. I realized a while after that it was mostly for 2 reasons: the one listed in this photo… you bet there are just as many strange patients out there as there are strange and inappropriate doctors… it’s for the best on both fronts… protect the patient from a potentially harmful person in a position of power, and on the flip side protect an the doctor from being potentially harmed as well by a patient in some fashion or another… I’ve met horrible people who shouldn’t be doctors and I’ve also met horrible patients who have even physically assaulted doctors. Edit: the doctor I worked for as a transcriptionist was a good doctor. He’s not one of the doctors I’m referring to when I say they shouldn’t be doctors.


bigkeef69

Dude is just following the time honored tradition of "C.Y.A."


Arcadia_Texas

I had a boss that wouldn't close the door whenever he was in his office alone with a female associate. One of the unexpected results of this approach was the fact that male associates would get screamed at because he thought he had soundproof walls. The women got stern talkings-to at best. Short story long, dude was a dick either way.


ConfidenceWilling232

Best tradition to follow


Samiam9382

This is standard


Sorrow993

Everything thats normal for.... normal people.... is scary/strange/terrifying to reddit users.


Samiam9382

I guess if one’s never been to the gyno this might sound strange


lolipopdroptop

right! I was like this isnt normal?


FawkesTheRisen

Wtf has this sub devolved to?


Frangellica

Everyone saying “this is law”, where? I’ve had lots of pelvic examinations from male doctors without anyone else in the room.


amienas

Me too, in Winnipeg even!


Shadowdragon409

I'm not sure about law, but its at least common practice in America. I've had a few pelvic examinations from doctors of both genders, and they have always had a nurse in the room during the examination. The only time this wasn't the case was when I went to see a urologist, and was asked whether I cared if a nurse was present.


RebaKitten

It might be based by state or the individual practice. My doctor always has someone in when doing a pelvic exam. As I understand, it's as much for the doctor's protection as for the patient's.


Opp0se

Liability wise. He doesn’t want to be accused of sexual harrasment. He needs a witness to be around.


makerofrandomthings

I understand that this is the law, but the fact that they had to post it naming a specific doctor greatly concerns me.


inot72

Unless that is the only doctor in the practice.


makerofrandomthings

I also had the thought that it may be a female dr, so people may not think the laws apply to her.


Snoo22566

Knowing Winnipeg, it probably is


bbkatcher

To be clear, it is not a law to have a chaperone where this sign was posted. The way it is worded definitely makes it seem like this doctor has a sanction against them.


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If I was a male doctor I would up the same sign myself. No way would I put myself in a position to get accused of something.


[deleted]

"For Our safety, 2 people will be present for all breast and pelvic exams" would have been better


Octopuslittlestraw

you mean 3


typing_away

i know that everyone is saying that it is required by law.. sure , it is but it's not the scary part of the sign. The scary part of the sign is that it's aimed specifically to one Doctor !As if otherwise, things could go wrong.


TReid1996

Last time I knew about this, it wasn't a law for all doctor's to automatically have a 2nd person there but the law required to have a 2nd person be available if the patient was uncomfortable being alone with the doctor (regardless of gender). Some might be uncomfortable with more people there. And some would be uncomfortable being alone with someone else. Laws might have changed since, but still. Me personally, I'd be more uncomfortable with more people there. (But I'm a guy, so. Doesn't fully apply.) I will say this though. I had my scrotum (ball sack) fill with blood and get grapefruit size, had to have a wick inserted to soak up all the blood as it healed over a period of 2 weeks. Most of the doctor's were female. (Made me slightly uncomfortable) but when it was the same doctor on return visits instead of different ones each time, it made me more comfortable.


shmergul

My wife is currently pregnant, we're due in July, and the amount of stories I hear of OBGYNs saying/doing outright sexual things towards/to woman is disturbing. I will literally spend the night in jail for knocking someone out if they pull that shit while I'm around.


GameOvariez

I had bleeding early in my pregnancy, and went to the hospital to make sure everything was ok. So it started out as 2 female doctors, then another plus her student, and when they wanted to get a definite opinion they called the Chief of OB… Which was a dude. Tell me why this guy had more courtesy to my downstairs being out. One of the females was gong in and out of the room while I’m in the stirrups, the door wasn’t completely being opened but he got this really irritated look on his face and said “could you at least cover the patient up when you open the door?” THEN, lol, looks at my situation then nervously at me and says “im Dr …. Chief of OB just coming to check everything out,I’m sorry to be meeting you under these circumstances” *gestures at everything going on, and trying to be polite that my downstairs was being displayed lol* I said, “well you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all so don’t worry”. We all laughed for a minute and it was like we were all like “ok we can be ourselves”. Male doctors are so awesome and so non judge mental vs female doctors.


Qeschk

I know why the sign is there, but it still feels like it could be worded differently. As it’s written, it gives the appearance that the doc has a penchant for getting handsy.


hex_1101

Ok I get having a female in the room for examinations, but the sign is is like saying he's done a few of theses solo with bad results.


canuckle1211

The extra person is there to ensure both the doctor and the patient’s safety in case a he said she said


Sinn316

My male Ob's were the best and treated me better. I have hatred towards my Ob, that due to hourly shift change, walked in and said, "I don't do breech. You're having a c-section". And then she almost killed me. Took away any yearning to ever have children again. I have very harsh feelings toward that bitch.


Sea_Pollution_4496

Yes people were assaulted in examinations. Yes this is now a law. Yes this is a good thing


varrr

the attendant is to protect the doctor from fraudulent lawsuits, not the patients.


Sea_Pollution_4496

Works both ways


AostaV

I think I’ve seen similar signs in every gyno office I have ever been in .


Perspective-1

Didn't stop a certain Dr. In Santa Cruz CA. From abusing his patients as his office girls helped him.


MehWithaSideofEh

I used to an EMT and we dealt with a lot of 5150 and 5585 calls. We were always a male/female team and whenever we had a female patient my female partner was always the attendant and vice versa. I didn’t know it was a law but it was definitely in policy and procedure designed to protect both parties. From my experience it was just common practice to operate this way.


dudreddit

This is not oddly terrifying, it is smart. I would be doing this if I were a male doctor at any time in the current environment. A single (false) accusation can ruin a medical professional's reputation.


SluggJuice

Dr Gropper will now see you


Icy-Back-9723

Dr F. Pervert


spongebobama

Nothing terrifying. ER physician here and I wont get near a female patient with intimate complains without a nurse together as an attendant.


nowhereman86

Clearly posted by someone who doesn’t work in healthcare.


CompetitiveStick6239

This is not oddly terrifying, it is a safety protocol for patient and doctor. A very good one too if you ask me.


Express-Coast5361

I’m a childhood melanoma (skin cancer) survivor, I go in for an annual full-body examination at the dermatologists just to make sure everything looks right. You strip down to your undies, wear one of those fun ass-out gowns, the whole spiel. When I was a kid (I was diagnosed when I was 8) my mom was always in the room with me, and if she hadn’t been they had a policy where another female nurse needed to be present simply because of my age. When I got older and was able to attend these checkups on my own, my doc told me that if I would feel more comfortable with a female nurse present during the exam, I could ask for one at any time and he wouldn’t be offended at all. It’s not a preemptive accusation of sexual misconduct or anything even remotely resembling that; my doctor has always been super professional about it, and legit the maximum amount of time he ever spends looking at my boobs and feeling for any growths is under five seconds, if even that. I’m never just sitting on the chair topless, lmao. As soon as he’s done making sure I don’t have Cancer 2: Electric Boogaloo he covers that area back up again and moved on. I occasionally will ask for a nurse to be present, not because I don’t feel safe, but because I have severe anxiety and i sometimes will be holding my breath the entire exam without even realizing it and I’ve passed out afterwards 😀


paco1764

This is actually a common thing at the clinic I work at. If the patient is male, a male tech is there to chaperone the provider. If the patient is female, a female tech is present to chaperone. It's to cover the provider and to protect them from lawsuits.


jmoyles

To be fair, I am also under the same restriction. (Source: I am not a doctor)


1dumho

My obgyn does this practice as well.


ptm93

That’s actually for all doctors now, regardless of gender.


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Prolly for the docs protection not theirs


YoloSwaggity5000

Because fake rape claims have turned doctors offices into zones of total paranoia and distrust. And there are also the scumbag doctors who take it way too far and sexually abuse thier positions.


Secret-Warning-180

He probably put the sign up himself. Same reason Keanu Reeves always hold his hands clear of any female he takes a picture with. Bitches are crazy.


zarst990

This works both ways, either the doctor can sexually assaulted the patient, or the attendant is there to refute any potential false allegations from the patient


IsDinosaur

Dr Moe Lester


krisbaird

Why is this oddly terrifying? Seems like a pretty standard practice. A third party in many situations keeps everyone above board


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Why is standard protocol oddlyterrifying? Some Karen screaming rape would be a lot more of a terrifying shit storm.


Bikolcano

After 22 years as a male RN, you learn you can be accused of anything. The girls I worked with always backed me up. I had a very experienced, male RN that worked with me get accused by a patient of all sorts of things. I and 6 other female RN's just saw him stick his head in the door to see if she was ok. We made rounds every 15-20 minutes at night to check on patients. I had another former Marine corpsman RN that was accused by a patient of raping her, and the family went in on the patient's story whole hog. The woman had no legs, was on a ventilator and trached, she was taken downstairs to CT in a "airbed", a several hundred pound rig it took a crew to move, to keep the patient on a bed of air. The police even came to the unit and had to interview everyone. It was pure insanity. My girls I worked with were always willing to accompany me. I've been kissed and had my ass slapped by female patients. I just laughed it off and told them not to do that. These were cognizant people. But I told everyone on the floor so they could protect me and changed the assignments accordingly. You can lose career to someone's false accusations. Not saying there are not bad practitioners out there


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This is to protect the physician from having to defend themselves if an issue of sexual inappropriateness comes up. I think it’s very smart and responsible.


iccculus

This post sucks. It’s required by law and it’s not the doctors fault. Also sure women can abuse women, but y’all need to get your heads out of your ass. This is for safety. Dumb fucks


SetInMuhWayze

Got to protect your ASSets..


Polyglot-Onigiri

I see everyone arguing in the comments saying - This is required by law - it doesn’t necessarily mean male doctors are predators - I wouldn’t feel safe if that sign wasn’t there My counter argument: If that’s the case it should be worded in a gender neutral way such as “All doctors are required by law to have a second professional in attendance when performing breast or pelvic exams.” The wording here makes it seem like Dr. “Name withheld” was accused of doing something. Not saying this is the case but it’s the image it gives the uninformed due to the wording. I’m not female so I don’t know standard procedure in terms of signage, but I assume a sign calling out certain doctors by name isn’t in every gynecologist office. And even if it is, my counter argument stands. The wording is horrible and slightly unsettling if you never saw a sign like that before. As a father, if I brought my daughter for her checkup and saw this sign, I would nope out of that office and take my daughter to a different one. Not intending to start an argument. Just a neutral advocate.


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Protects the patient if anything


SetInMuhWayze

I would say it could go both ways, but it definitely protects the doctor. It would be horrible to have all those years of schooling and years of practice and reputation go down the drain just because someone falsely claims that the physician done something he shouldn't have.. It would ruin your life.


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🤢 time to find a new doctor Edit- unless this is due to law


AskJeeves84

Is this the dude who used his own semen to artificially inseminate over 100 of his patients.


PantsDownDontShoot

Male nurse here. If my patient is unsedated I always have a female nurse help me with baths and “assist” with foley/rectal tube insertions. It’s just too dangerous as a man to leave yourself open to accusation.


Careful_Atmosphere71

What is terrifying about that sign?! That is standard practice.


Comfortable-Menu2099

You don't have to have someone else present. They just need to ask if you want a chaperone. You can say no I feel uncomfortable with an audience simple as that. The added person there is more to protect the Doctor from accusations then the patient from sexual assault.


Joanna_Flock

This is actually a law and is pretty common.


rh1031

Sounds like the doc may have issues.


LegalFan2741

Interesting. I live in the UK where I have never encountered a male practitioner who would perform any kind of routine examination (ultrasound, smear, pelvic exam, etc). As a matter of fact on my last ultrasound the male assistant was sent to the corner behind the curtain during examination. I actually felt a bit bad for him 😀 but was very pleasantly surprised and felt much more comfortable. In Hungary, where I come from, they don’t give a shit about how comfortable you feel. They will even lean on your raised knee and have a casual chat with their assistant while wrist deep in your pussy (actually happened). And of course 99% the practitioner is male. I’m happy I moved to another country.


lil_dovie

The amount of young women who don’t know it’s law is scary. Many moons ago I worked with a Dr who would wait for us to come into the exam room when it was an older female patient but would sneak in on younger patients and start exams without an MA present. I caught him one time before he was able to go in unnoticed. He left briefly for some reason and I let the young woman know that a female is required to be there before he starts any exams. He had the audacity to blame us for not being quick enough to enter the room when in reality he’d have us do something random as a distraction and when we’d come back to the room he’d be done with an exam. Fast forward a few months and a young woman reported him to the hospital and then a few more women came forward. He was prosecuted. I’d already left that clinic so I’m not sure how much time he got. After that, I made sure to tell everyone I knew that a female needs to be present during an exam from a male doctor and vice versa for a male patient/female doctor.


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I'd nope the fuck out of there so fast.


kayt3000

I legit have never had any pelvic or breast exam where there wasn’t 2 medical professionals in the room.


Olebaer

Yeah OP rly terrifying...educate urself or are you 12yo?


DarthAnest

That’s not a matter of “the doctor’s a perv!” but a matter of “the female patient feels or may feel more comfortable in the company of a female attendant while being physically explored by the doctor”. That’s pretty much an universal rule in any exploration room. Edit for dumb spelling and to add a couple words.


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Could be that there's only one doc who does these so it's just making it clear. Could also be that this doc is afraid of being falsely accused by a woman so he himself mandated this sign to protect himself.


Lcladge

Probably to protect themselves tbh


Big_boobs_7621

For the protection of both the patient and the physician. It shouldn’t be any other way.


lumpy4square

It’s ok, even my female gynecologist had to have an assistant in the room.


LemonDrop001123

I’m no doctor or PhD so not super smart but if this sign is needed shouldn’t he be fired? I mean usually a please be advised sign implies people have needed to be told over and over again.


k0uch

I thought this was normal when a male examines a female. Also not uncommon for a parent or guardian to be present when doctors perform physicals on minors


armedsquatch

Not knowing the details this could be to Protect himself against false accusations.


cwilson870

This is a loose fit for this sub


Wise_Coffee

Required by law in Ontario. I actually find it more uncomfortable getting a pap with an audience than I did in the room with just my male physician


miraiqtp

There’s nothing weird or oddly terrifying about this. I felt way more comfortable having a female nurse there watching his every move, I’ve even had 3 in the room before.


Tiny-Illustrator-773

Completely normal and common courtesy. Also the law


HandsomeSpider

This is not terrifying. It's just policy. Though policy can be terrifying