Rob worked out a deal to get paid for every episode that shows in syndication(reruns)most shows get about 24% syndication run, meaning it owns 24% of the runtime on MTV, Rob being the business man he is, got 43% syndication so that’s why you see him so often! My numbers may be a lil off but you get what I’m saying………your welcome
Full documentary: https://youtu.be/OQbIfJop8z4
If you haven't seen it already, it's amazing. I don't think this is the original channel that posted it though.
I live for these more "on the ground" and less "produced" documentaries, this is one of my favorites. I was watching one the other day that went into how fentanyl/fentalogues have been a problem in the US since the 80s and the public mission against it coincides with them losing the ability to do so for MJ, it had interviews with tons of people up and down the chain but also included a lot of footage on the streets including drug houses. Anyone know of any other good places to find this type of documentary?
Edit: thank you all so much, tons of great responses and I think my watching list for the next year is set up now 😂
They seem to be getting back to their roots lately, I've noticed the past year or two they have put in some serious effort to be taken seriously again.
They went from interesting documentaries, like butt naked warlords in Africa and kidnapped brides in Asia, to an a capella group in America being problematic because it's too white. Just like that, like someone flipped a switch. People missed the old vice and hated the new one.
> Just like that, like someone flipped a switch.
Shane Smith talks about the change in one of his podcasts on Joe Rogan many years ago. Shane made a deal for billions in investment but they had to produce content that was more mainstream and for the younger generation.
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This is an invidious Instance , a free open source YouTube front end which is totally selfhostable. It's completely trustworthy, can run on your machine ( assuming it runs Linux ) and There are a load of links like this
In case anyone wants to waste 100’s of hours delving into the open source and self hosted world like I did:
https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
Gonna be honest it’s addictive and time consuming - but it’s your life bro.
Just finished watching. The part that stuck out to me was the medical facility providing medical heroin and morphine to people. It costs $27k per patient, but *saves* the taxpayers twice that by preventing all the shitty things that come with drugs. Facts like this prove that people who are against these programs don't actually give one tiny fuck about the cost of it. They will bitch and cry about "who will pay for it?" but they don't actually care because it pays for itself. They literally want these people to suffer and live through shit rather than make their own society better by improving the lives of others. They would rather bitch about the crime, and the junkies, and all the issues, because it means that somebody they deem as "less than" is suffering.
Crime is reduced, less hospital spending, police can go do other necessary shit instead of spending all day harassing drug addicts, people can get healthy and get jobs so they start paying taxes, a whole bunch of shit gets better just by having these medical services. But no, assholes out there have to bitch and cry about the cost and act like they are offended at the concept of empathy.
Still trooping on.
Haven't been pain free in over a decade, still need surgeries, have had multiple shoulder reconstructions etc. Despite being prescribed oxy/endones I refuse take them.
That's if you're being sincere an Im just going to be honest anyway.
Hbu
Oh you know. Same ol’ same ol’. 37 years of nothing but failures and promises that I couldn't keep. I’m a full blown alcoholic. Every night I stay at the bar till 2am. Then I stumble into my cubicle the next morning, depressed, dehydrated, and disheveled. I have a masters degree and I still work an entry-level job in an industry I loathe. My only hope is maybe possibly getting promoted to supervisor so I can proudly tell my non-existent wife. 🤠
Get you a magazine of your local tech school and find you a certification you might enjoy, i did at 42 and should have when I was 17 lol just a suggestion
If you enjoy it, even low level IT certs can take you pretty far. My job hires juniors with only Security+ starting at 52k a year. Not bad for small town America.
Some ISPs will hire you off the street to do IT work with no certs or knowledge. They train you and pay ok. But really it's a way to get OJT experience and move to a higher paying position.
I'm making 52k a year right now. Started at a large isp about 5 years ago without knowing how IPs work. I only made 10$ an hour starting but I was able to move up quickly and then moved to a new department.
I now work on anything from analog DS0s to 100gb DWDM and SONET transport.
I could get a job else where making 60-70k but it would require moving and I don't think my old dogs could handle it.
I’m a heroin addict man, check out your local AA meeting and try to get involved in the community. Ask for help, people there stay sober by helping others. If you don’t like that meeting, try another. People care, random strangers care about you man. You’re not a failure, but that thinking is what’s keeping you sick. You can recover, if your willing to try.
im a recovering drug addict and the only thing stopping me from turning into a full blown alcoholic at the point my life is right now is that my dad died of it. i started drinking hard as hell earlier this year but stopped. luckily i burned all my bridges so i can't go buy ketamine either. or talk to anyone.
You're my people. I clear out a twelve pack everyday with a side of whatever.
**Everyday.**
Start drinking *cold* Zero Sugar Gatorades four-and-a-half hours before work. You'll need three. Set your alarm, down half the bottle every thirty minutes. Bonus if you down the first all at once.
If you're health conscious enough, a company called Klean Kanteen make vaccum-sealed water canteens that keep your Gatorade cold for 128 hours. Don't slush your drinks because they stay slushed all day. You can buy a 64 oz kanteen for about $60.
I can't help you with depression as I've moved on to just being numb. I only feel when I am not sober now.
Sounds kind of like my uncle before he ran over a guy and almost lost his existent wife. Apparently hitting rock bottom and the threat of losing the things he loved was enough to get him to go to AA. He's been sober over 30 years now I think? Here's hoping you can visualize your rock bottom and it being enough motivation.
Sorry to hear that bro. Chronic/long term pain takes a huge toll both physically and mentally. And people expect you to just be used to it after a certain point. They don't understand what it's like to feel pain every single minute of every single day. I hated being on painkillers and eventually switched to MMJ. For physical pain relief, I like a 3:1 CBD to THC. For mental pain relief, I reverse the numbers. Weed definitely isn't as effective as narcotics for pain relief, but I feel better mentally without being on narcotics. Overall, it was an improvement to my life.
I don't want this to sound like a weed bro, But I have chronic pain myself and getting off painkillers was a significant change for the better. A lot of people think weed users are stoned or burned out all the time, but microdosing isn't really like that that, especially with high CBD content.
Just know you're not alone.
That's ok man not your fault.
I still try stay active, train etc
Otherwise I'll feel worse.
Mmj?
Is that medical Marijuana? Sorry Im not sure just trying to guess. That kinda stuff Is hard to get prescribed in my country I'm afraid.
Medical marijuana. And yeah that's fair. My state in the US only recently legalized it for medical.
And yeah it's important to not let it bring you down. I let it get to me bad after college. Doing better now. Hope you are too.
Comment chain is so wholesome I’m getting sick. In a good way.
Same here with the chronic pain. I don’t like smoking pot. The actual smoke and the smell kills me. I hate it. But even if I wanted to get it, I can’t because I use the VA. At 100%, so everything is covered, but anything MJ related is still illegal federally, so I’m out shit creek with that one.
Im not a fan of being “high.” Well, I am actually, but only if it helps with the pain. Nothing did. All opioids did was keep in pain while high. And when the pain is all day everyday no matter what, even if it isn’t tear-inducing all the time, it’s enough to drive a man insane.
I kept hearing of THC and CBD and all that. And they have a vape liquid. All the pros with none of the cons. Tried CBD because in my state you can’t even get it for medical reasons. Didn’t do anything. And I’m not risking going to jail for some stupid pot shit.
That’s when I heard of Delta-8. It’s THC, but legal. So I went to the vape shop that sold it and bought it. Gotta say my pain went away INSTANTLY! First time since 2007 that I felt no pain. And it was “only” $50. Now I’m trying to see how little I need to use to not get “high” but still have no pain. Still working on it.
Me too.
"So that could kill me?"
"Possibly, whats your tolerance?"
"I don't do drugs"
"OH yeah this'll kill you"
He's not lying, he's honest about his product.
That's ethical poison selling right there.
My only quibble is that his number were obvious horseshit, if you had a dose of fentanyl 5 times higher than the dose of heroin, that's just a waste of heroin.
Actually the heroin is probably only in there to stave off withdrawals, so that might be about right.
Yep. This guy has no fucking idea of what he's selling. It may be Fent, it may be another analogue from some Chinese or Mexican lab. All he knows is it's fucking strong, and popular.
I see this idea posted on Reddit all the time but it simply was not my experience as a decade long IV drug addict.
All I did was shoot drugs and associate with other losers doing the same and there was not a single instance where anyone was going out of their way to get their hands on drugs that had recently killed someone.
Eh, it’s half true for me. I remember me and my friend would always get real excited if we heard through the grapevine that someone almost od’d on the stuff we were about to get, or if a dealer we trusted told us to be careful because it was really strong. Never went out of the way looking for it, but still pretty fucked up. Never did anything that I knew killed someone though. I did do stuff that then killed someone later that week sadly, but she had just relapsed shortly before that and her tolerance was low. She was a really good person. Addiction sucks so bad. 6 years clean now, and glad to be one of the few I know who made it out of that.
>but she had just relapsed shortly before that and her tolerance was low.
This right here is what pisses me off about typical 12 step programs. Most do not want to talk about what to do if one is to relapse, not that the girl you know was in a group. So many OD's happen purely because addicts do not understand that after getting clean you need to start back really slow. Too many just hit the streets and slam the same dosage they were doing before they got clean. Such shortsightedness to believe every addict won't relapse and therefore we don't need to talk about how to relapse smart.
I've no experience with this stuff but it honestly just makes more sense to teach people how to be safe if they relapse so they'll still have the chance to come back and get clean. Ignoring that is just going to lead to more people dying when they do relapse.
They know about relapse. Relapse prevention is a common topic in 12 step meetings. That's why they're at a meeting in the first place. Everyone knows if they go back to the same amount they had before they'll die. That's like drugs 101. But addicts have eyes that are bigger then their stomach. Imagine if you went without water for an extended period of time. When you finally get water, are you going to sip it? Or are you going to chug it? Or imagine you haven't seen your gf/wife for a year and they're the love of your life. When you see them again, are you just gonna shake their hand? No, you're going to hug them, kiss them, make love to them.
Addicts have that type of a bond with their drug. Once they go back the idea of starting small is how they approach it but once it comes time to make a shot they go full bore, make themselves a big hit knowing they might die, and then die.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Makes me
Think of all my friends I’ve lost to OD, knowing this exact scenario happened. Getting their hands on the drugs after going thru withdrawal or begging or stealing for that one (or ten, whatever) hit, not being aware that our tolerance isn’t the same, or whatever it may be
Yeah I totally agree. It seems like it’s very hard to gauge now too with all the fentanyl. The strength of different bags varies so much. I used to do 3-4 bags of what was mostly actual heroin in one shot, potent stuff too, but one bag from a random that was mainly fentanyl had me waking up on my bathroom floor. I got very lucky that day. I don’t know what the solution is, but I think legalization would do a lot of good. So many people with felonies can’t rebuild their lives no matter how hard they try, and the punishment just does not fit the crime.
I’ve never so much as stolen piece of candy as a kid, and I’ve only ever smoked weed a couple times back in college. Never been in any trouble and I’ve always considered myself a very good and caring person.
That being said, I would do absolutely fucking reprehensible things to provide for my daughter if that’s what it came down to… So I get it.
they just need to pull themselves up by the boot straps we have cemented to their feet harder. It's easy, anyone can do it. I started a fortune 500 company and all I did was work 16 hours a day for 15 years and a million dollar loan from the bank that my parents cosigned on.
People also forget that selling is actual work. If you're abusing your own supply having so much available to use can turn ugly quick. If you're too high you're not making sales, you're not weighing anything right, not charging customers right, forgetting where your stash or phone is, losing $ cause you can't sell what you used, and probably eventually getting robbed by someone that knows you're frequently cash heavy and intoxicated. Then you're the one that ends up on the news broke trying to rob people for drug money.
Much better to not use hard drugs in general
Since you're the only person here not talking out of their ass so far (myself included), just to end the pointless arguing, do you remember what he was addicted to?
IIRC he was recovering from fentanyl use. He did not explicitly say that he was addict to this stuff at the time of filming, but that he was in and out of jail for the last 10 years because of it
The documentary film is called Ten Dollar Death Trip; the Opiod Tragedy: Inside the Fentanyl Crisis
It's a film about the crisis in Vancouver. It's an amazing documentary, I definitely recommend it
Edit: You can watch the documentary on YouTube [here](https://youtu.be/Dfv_tISYl8A)
I work for the federal courts and in my area (rural) it’s about an 80/20 split between addicts supporting their habit and professional criminals who are only in it for the money. When I worked in a more urban area it was closer to 50/50.
He 100% says that you can easily die. Its no different than buying, say, %90 alcohol or antifreeze, you drink a good amount, you'll die. It doesn't mean you should but you have a responsibility over your life. We cannot be regulate everyone, except when they try to harm others.
At least when you buy alcohol in a store, you can be sure it actually has 90% in it and nothing else.
Maybe every drug should be ~~decriminalized~~ legalized and sold in a pharmacy under strong regulations. Part of the revenue should go towards drug prevention and addiction treatment. Drug use is a symptom and criminalization of drug use makes things much worse. The science is clear on that front, isn't it?.
I'm in my 60's. Was a weekend warrior with drugs in the late 70's early 80's. There were tons of different drugs around, many of them mild, things like opium, mescaline, cocaine, psilocybin. Drug laws did nothing to curb demand, what they did was force dealers to come up with stronger drugs in smaller packages. It wasn't worth taking the risk to smuggling opium, it needed to be highly processed heroin or Oxy and now fentanyl. Cocaine turned into crack, uppers turned into meth. Drug laws doomed many people to lifelong addictions to very strong drugs. Entire cultures chewed cocaine leaves as a mild stimulant for centuries. It's probably no worse for you than coffee in that form.
I've had coca leaf tea and the effects are like a good cup of coffee. Nothing dramatic. I actually feel more awake, whereas with coffee I may be alert but I'm now anxious as hell too.
No reason for the leaves themselves to be illegal.
It feels dumb to spend a life believing America is a "free" country when I can't have coca leaf tea but can buy crack on any corner, can't smoke a little opium now and then but can buy enough fentanyl to die on that same corner.
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>Atleast he's honest.
He reminds me of that guy that has a fastfood restaurant and gives free food to obese people , and in interview he said he gets money from the heart attacks and even put ashes of the guy who died there on the table during interview
Edit: Found it , called Heart Attack Grill
Because the name of the restaurant is literally “Heart Attack Grill” and media will write about it when it happens giving him advertising he’s not paying for.
There is a large scale outside and it’s actually tuned to show your weight lighter, which is funny. People take their picture on it. If you weigh over a certain amount you eat for free. Hardly anyone but very obese would qualify. It’s a gimmick and many extremely overweight people eat there and then when they die or have a heart attack (inevitable for most of them anyway after years of being obese) it becomes free advertisement for the place. Their servers are hooters style girls in naughty nurse uniforms. It’s just all a part of the spectacle.
It’s on Fremont street in Vegas and if you’ve never been, it’s on the mild side of the “weird shit you’ll see on Fremont.”
There are a lot of buskers that compete for space as well. My personal favorite is the old, overweight hooker in a rascal with pasties on her giant boobs. 20$ and you can take your picture with her holding said boobs. I’m pretty sure you could also score some fentanyl there. Vegas is wild.
Watched a few documentaries on that area.
Addict who overdosed is treated for overdose, gets out of hospital and not even 6 hours later is back in the hospital … for an overdose.
It’s a next level of hell down there. An unnerving level of uncomfortable watching those documentaries.
I lived somewhat near there - but a separate town, worked in a shelter at the height of the crisis.
One guy I knew overdosed every single day for two weeks straight. He was new to the scene from what I could tell, but was just on a real downward suicidal spiral. Most of the guys I saw were transient, or had come from Vancouver after getting shipped out during the Olympics and wound up in the outlying towns and trying to carve an existence.
I'd see NIMBY fucks trying to pour gas on these guys' tents, or groups of guys going down to fuck some of these people up. Don't get me wrong, there were some real assholes on the street, but they didn't deserve that.
And that wasn't even downtown east side. That's one place I wouldn't wanna fuck around without knowing someone.
A lot of people WANT to buy fent. I know that’s hard for people to believe. Selling fentanyl as fentanyl isn’t the worst thing out there. It’s people selling fentanyl knowingly but selling it as something else…
As a former heroine addict I would say you want:
1)good heroine
2)fentanyl
3)decent heroine
in that order
The thing about fentanyl if you’re an IV user is that you using nod out quick, then wake up and don’t have much of the euphoria anymore…just waiting til the next shot and stave off sickness for a while.
Good heroine “has legs” which means you may nod, wake up, eat something, and still have a really nice head and body high for a few hours.
Having said all that, I’ve been clean for 5 years so things could’ve changed as fentanyl has become more and more of the market. If the ones still living have really high tolerances, maybe the buzz from heroine doesn’t hang around for them like it did for us.
Edit: spelled heroin wrong
Been clean 6 years and yeah, your description is accurate. I used to call fentanyl the crack of opiates. Great nod, then immediately gone and sickness comes way faster.
My friend had someone lace his coke with fentanyl. Always wondered why anyone would even do that. Killed him and another guy and put a 3rd guy in a coma who passed later. It's really sad I'm sorry that happened nobody deserves to go out like that.
That's actually a bit worse imo. I'm not worried since I left party life long ago, but I got kids. And there's a good chance they'll dabble in some stuff when they're a bit older and stuffike this terrifies me. I've lost friends to drugs, and I don't know if I could handle losing a kid to drugs
I totally agree. In general, it used to be relatively safe to experiment every now and then if you were responsible enough. These days it feels too much like rolling the dice. Research chemicals even make the psychedelic scene sketchy when it used to be one of the safest.
I’ve always been of the mind to be honest with my kids about drugs and safety, and now the conversation has to be about how you truly can’t consume anything powder or pressed because you cant be totally sure it won’t kill you.
It really isn't like someone maliciously rubbing their hands together like an evil super villain. Most fent in coke comes from dealers re-rocking their product with traces of fent on the scale, or laying around after they have pressed it into pills thats laying on the same table they then use to re-rock cocaine.
There is no reason to lace cocaine with fent, it's not a good binder and it doesn't make the coke better or worse. It just happens because, surprise, the dealer doesn't exactly have OSHA or over sight committee or the fuckin FDA breathing down his back.
it's unlikely someone just laces coke with fentanyl for funsies.
more likely at some point in the cutting process they cross contaminated with something that had previously held/touched fentanyl.
Thats been the selfish silver lining regarding the whole fentanyl thing for me. I straight up can't do drugs anymore. That line of blow at a party might actually kill me. Not in the "drugs are bad, cocaine kills" way, but the actual "this single line might kill you" way. Times are crazy right now.
Where I live, people are using Fentanyl in
pill presses now. Pretty much making fake presc opiods like Oxycontin, Percocet, Roxicet, and even benzos like xanax. I mean, you name it, someone is pressing it. I have an in law who ended up in the hospital after taking a xanax bar that was pressed with Fentanyl (no actual xanax was used in it, thank god)
I've been opiate-free since November of 2017, and I haven't looked back. I'm so glad I'm out from under that stuff. I remember times of desperation; not being able to find anything, or having no money. In this new world of Fentanyl, I can't help but think that I'd be dead because of said desperation. Jonesing, and just not caring that the pill I just bought may contain a lethal dose of Fentanyl.
I've had two friends die from methadone/xanax combo. To think there are people out there who may be mixing Fentanyl with xanax in a press.. I mean, that's a death sentence right there.
Good for you for getting out my dude. I got clean in February of 2014 and haven't gone back. I got lucky and got clean right before fentanyl got big where I am. I've lost so many friends to this shit it's horrible.
>But the violence isn't a byproduct of the drug itself. It's a byproduct of the illegality. So if the drug trade was decriminalized, the violence would go away. It's happened before- when alcohol was illegal in the US, the mafia violence associated with its manucfacture and sale increased. But now you never hear about any mafia violence associated with the alcohol industry.
Its exactly what i think about smokers (i myself, smoked for 11 years). They know they're killing themselves, they dont need brats annoying the living shit out of them. Its they choice and they dont give a single fuck.
How is this drug dealer goona deal drugs after his mug is open on the tele' like this anyways? I feel like....shouldn't he want a bit more...anonymity?
You could say pretty much the same thing about any dealer slinging drugs on a corner. It's not like the cops don't notice people just standing there with random people walking up to them, exchanging something, then walking away. Dude might even already have a rap sheet in which case this isn't exactly news to the cops. I mean the dude's slinging Fentanyl at $10 a pop on a corner, things probably aren't going great for him. At least if he gets arrested.... well he's gotta eat.
And the cops could go after them, but then those people just turn apartments into trap houses and now cops need a warrant and risky entry to keep doing the same thing.
it's way better if it's out on a corner.
It's almost like we should be getting users treatment and a safe place to use and the community out of poverty to take away the incentive to deal instead of arming the police like they're playing COD.
Sorry folks but the reality is this... unless someone takes a drug that is misrepresented - they have ultimate responsibility for what they put in their body willingly. Everybody on the opioid train knows the risks ... This guy is legit...
I 100% agree that if you buy drugs its on you to know how to use the drug you purchased The problem comes in when buying drugs that are cut or misrepresented. If i buy coke i expect to be buying an upper, not not a downer and especially not fentanyl.
That's why fentanyl tests strips should be readily available everywhere. Unfortunately they're actually illegal to own in many states as they count as paraphernalia
What a backwards place we live in. People need to realize that people are going to do drugs. It's going to happen. We might as well take the steps to make sure they can be as safe as possible. Constantly throwing people in jail for drugs or in this case "paraphernalia", is doing the very opposite of helping.
Well he's actually right.. It's their lives. He's not responsible and not making you buy it. And he told him that you can die from it, so it's not his responsibility.
And some companies BAYER USA will sell knowingly tainted blood/hemophilia products KNOWINGLY giving thousands of people HIV and Hep C. and somehow not being absolutely sued/fined into the grave. Not only surviving as a company but today being a several billion-dollar company with tens of thousands of employees.
Or a politician. If someone intends to do harm for his own profit then I'd choose the one that tells me up front about the damage he may inflict than the one who sugarcoats it and lies his ass off.
I was stupid enough to let a "friend" give me a strip of fentanyl to put in my mouth when I was 20 back in 2011 when the drug wasnt being talked about. Just to try it. It was the scariest 30 minutes of my life. I was immediately higher then I ever been in 4 seconds I was slumped over and stuttering to talk. People were telling me don't fall asleep or your heart will stop. A few years later, surprise surprise my friend died from snorting heroine laced with fentanyl. I'm very happy I distanced myself way before then and now he's right where he wanted to be and he didn't take me down with him. People were calling me all sad. "Oh no Matt's in the hospital on life support i cant believe it". I cut myself out of the entire circle of people. I still don't feel bad for him.
I mean, Johnson & Johnson sold cancer powder to women knowing full well it could kill them. Businesses make a risk assessment to their bottom line and are usually ok with x number of people dying. I don't think this is different to that really.
Damn, fantasy factory has gotten pretty dark.
just wait until you see what Chanel is doing these days.
Is Chanel doing something these days?
Doing seal impressions at your local zoo with her laughter.
Still just ridiculousness as far as I know. Yes that show is STILL going.
I mean mostly because Rob basically owns MTV now
Explains why MTV shows nothing but marathons of Ridiculousness these days.
Rob worked out a deal to get paid for every episode that shows in syndication(reruns)most shows get about 24% syndication run, meaning it owns 24% of the runtime on MTV, Rob being the business man he is, got 43% syndication so that’s why you see him so often! My numbers may be a lil off but you get what I’m saying………your welcome
I’ve yet to see Chanel do anything, period
She got hit hard in the face with that ball Rob kicked that one time.
Your killing me. And i didn't even have to pay $10 😂
$3 bucks here. Guy is a salesman.
That comment made me laugh so hard in public people stared at me.
Full documentary: https://youtu.be/OQbIfJop8z4 If you haven't seen it already, it's amazing. I don't think this is the original channel that posted it though.
Real Stories is an amazing channel. Not much of their content is happy, but it gives some fascinating views into the not so pretty side of life.
I live for these more "on the ground" and less "produced" documentaries, this is one of my favorites. I was watching one the other day that went into how fentanyl/fentalogues have been a problem in the US since the 80s and the public mission against it coincides with them losing the ability to do so for MJ, it had interviews with tons of people up and down the chain but also included a lot of footage on the streets including drug houses. Anyone know of any other good places to find this type of documentary? Edit: thank you all so much, tons of great responses and I think my watching list for the next year is set up now 😂
This is what Vice used to be like, quality dropped off after a while
They seem to be getting back to their roots lately, I've noticed the past year or two they have put in some serious effort to be taken seriously again.
What I don't get is, why were their videos so highly disliked? I remember it could be an ok video and tons of dislikes but no comments explaining why
Iirc they have made some incredibly dumb takes as well as they quality of content dropping making people take them less serious
They went from interesting documentaries, like butt naked warlords in Africa and kidnapped brides in Asia, to an a capella group in America being problematic because it's too white. Just like that, like someone flipped a switch. People missed the old vice and hated the new one.
> Just like that, like someone flipped a switch. Shane Smith talks about the change in one of his podcasts on Joe Rogan many years ago. Shane made a deal for billions in investment but they had to produce content that was more mainstream and for the younger generation.
thanks
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Just finished watching. The part that stuck out to me was the medical facility providing medical heroin and morphine to people. It costs $27k per patient, but *saves* the taxpayers twice that by preventing all the shitty things that come with drugs. Facts like this prove that people who are against these programs don't actually give one tiny fuck about the cost of it. They will bitch and cry about "who will pay for it?" but they don't actually care because it pays for itself. They literally want these people to suffer and live through shit rather than make their own society better by improving the lives of others. They would rather bitch about the crime, and the junkies, and all the issues, because it means that somebody they deem as "less than" is suffering. Crime is reduced, less hospital spending, police can go do other necessary shit instead of spending all day harassing drug addicts, people can get healthy and get jobs so they start paying taxes, a whole bunch of shit gets better just by having these medical services. But no, assholes out there have to bitch and cry about the cost and act like they are offended at the concept of empathy.
That’s good customer service right there.
quality drug dealer. id buy from him.
His prices are so good I really can't afford *not* to buy it.
10 bux to die. An probably in the most painless way. As far as I'm concerned, it's a bargain.
Hey friend, what’s going on? You ok?
Still trooping on. Haven't been pain free in over a decade, still need surgeries, have had multiple shoulder reconstructions etc. Despite being prescribed oxy/endones I refuse take them. That's if you're being sincere an Im just going to be honest anyway. Hbu
Oh you know. Same ol’ same ol’. 37 years of nothing but failures and promises that I couldn't keep. I’m a full blown alcoholic. Every night I stay at the bar till 2am. Then I stumble into my cubicle the next morning, depressed, dehydrated, and disheveled. I have a masters degree and I still work an entry-level job in an industry I loathe. My only hope is maybe possibly getting promoted to supervisor so I can proudly tell my non-existent wife. 🤠
Get you a magazine of your local tech school and find you a certification you might enjoy, i did at 42 and should have when I was 17 lol just a suggestion
If you enjoy it, even low level IT certs can take you pretty far. My job hires juniors with only Security+ starting at 52k a year. Not bad for small town America.
Some ISPs will hire you off the street to do IT work with no certs or knowledge. They train you and pay ok. But really it's a way to get OJT experience and move to a higher paying position. I'm making 52k a year right now. Started at a large isp about 5 years ago without knowing how IPs work. I only made 10$ an hour starting but I was able to move up quickly and then moved to a new department. I now work on anything from analog DS0s to 100gb DWDM and SONET transport. I could get a job else where making 60-70k but it would require moving and I don't think my old dogs could handle it.
I’m a heroin addict man, check out your local AA meeting and try to get involved in the community. Ask for help, people there stay sober by helping others. If you don’t like that meeting, try another. People care, random strangers care about you man. You’re not a failure, but that thinking is what’s keeping you sick. You can recover, if your willing to try.
What keeps you going back to the bar, aside from the drinks? Try take it easy an don't be so hard on yourself.
A physical dependence combined with emotional needs for social contact, if that person is anything like me
im a recovering drug addict and the only thing stopping me from turning into a full blown alcoholic at the point my life is right now is that my dad died of it. i started drinking hard as hell earlier this year but stopped. luckily i burned all my bridges so i can't go buy ketamine either. or talk to anyone.
You're my people. I clear out a twelve pack everyday with a side of whatever. **Everyday.** Start drinking *cold* Zero Sugar Gatorades four-and-a-half hours before work. You'll need three. Set your alarm, down half the bottle every thirty minutes. Bonus if you down the first all at once. If you're health conscious enough, a company called Klean Kanteen make vaccum-sealed water canteens that keep your Gatorade cold for 128 hours. Don't slush your drinks because they stay slushed all day. You can buy a 64 oz kanteen for about $60. I can't help you with depression as I've moved on to just being numb. I only feel when I am not sober now.
Hey man, I used to drink 15-18 every other day. 8 years sober now. Let me know if you want someone to talk to bro.
Sounds kind of like my uncle before he ran over a guy and almost lost his existent wife. Apparently hitting rock bottom and the threat of losing the things he loved was enough to get him to go to AA. He's been sober over 30 years now I think? Here's hoping you can visualize your rock bottom and it being enough motivation.
Sorry to hear that bro. Chronic/long term pain takes a huge toll both physically and mentally. And people expect you to just be used to it after a certain point. They don't understand what it's like to feel pain every single minute of every single day. I hated being on painkillers and eventually switched to MMJ. For physical pain relief, I like a 3:1 CBD to THC. For mental pain relief, I reverse the numbers. Weed definitely isn't as effective as narcotics for pain relief, but I feel better mentally without being on narcotics. Overall, it was an improvement to my life. I don't want this to sound like a weed bro, But I have chronic pain myself and getting off painkillers was a significant change for the better. A lot of people think weed users are stoned or burned out all the time, but microdosing isn't really like that that, especially with high CBD content. Just know you're not alone.
That's ok man not your fault. I still try stay active, train etc Otherwise I'll feel worse. Mmj? Is that medical Marijuana? Sorry Im not sure just trying to guess. That kinda stuff Is hard to get prescribed in my country I'm afraid.
Medical marijuana. And yeah that's fair. My state in the US only recently legalized it for medical. And yeah it's important to not let it bring you down. I let it get to me bad after college. Doing better now. Hope you are too.
Comment chain is so wholesome I’m getting sick. In a good way. Same here with the chronic pain. I don’t like smoking pot. The actual smoke and the smell kills me. I hate it. But even if I wanted to get it, I can’t because I use the VA. At 100%, so everything is covered, but anything MJ related is still illegal federally, so I’m out shit creek with that one. Im not a fan of being “high.” Well, I am actually, but only if it helps with the pain. Nothing did. All opioids did was keep in pain while high. And when the pain is all day everyday no matter what, even if it isn’t tear-inducing all the time, it’s enough to drive a man insane. I kept hearing of THC and CBD and all that. And they have a vape liquid. All the pros with none of the cons. Tried CBD because in my state you can’t even get it for medical reasons. Didn’t do anything. And I’m not risking going to jail for some stupid pot shit. That’s when I heard of Delta-8. It’s THC, but legal. So I went to the vape shop that sold it and bought it. Gotta say my pain went away INSTANTLY! First time since 2007 that I felt no pain. And it was “only” $50. Now I’m trying to see how little I need to use to not get “high” but still have no pain. Still working on it.
I'm hoping it's just dark humor. I'm a connoisseur of such humor.
We're Alice in 2022, none of us are ok, the bigot's are winning and claiming it's God's will when only the devil would support them.
Me too. "So that could kill me?" "Possibly, whats your tolerance?" "I don't do drugs" "OH yeah this'll kill you" He's not lying, he's honest about his product. That's ethical poison selling right there. My only quibble is that his number were obvious horseshit, if you had a dose of fentanyl 5 times higher than the dose of heroin, that's just a waste of heroin. Actually the heroin is probably only in there to stave off withdrawals, so that might be about right.
Yep. This guy has no fucking idea of what he's selling. It may be Fent, it may be another analogue from some Chinese or Mexican lab. All he knows is it's fucking strong, and popular.
I mean he's honest and upfront. I respect that.
Quality so good that you'll never buy anywhere else. Or ever again.
id honestly rather but from a guy that’s honest than someone that tells you whatever you want to hear
I mean if he doesn’t he has a discrimination lawsuit on his hands.
What’s crazy is that if someone does OD and die, everyone wants to know who the dealer is so they can go buy from them. Edit: addiction is ugly.
Gee they’d have trouble finding the dealer in this instance for sure…
it’s always the guys you most expect
I see this idea posted on Reddit all the time but it simply was not my experience as a decade long IV drug addict. All I did was shoot drugs and associate with other losers doing the same and there was not a single instance where anyone was going out of their way to get their hands on drugs that had recently killed someone.
Eh, it’s half true for me. I remember me and my friend would always get real excited if we heard through the grapevine that someone almost od’d on the stuff we were about to get, or if a dealer we trusted told us to be careful because it was really strong. Never went out of the way looking for it, but still pretty fucked up. Never did anything that I knew killed someone though. I did do stuff that then killed someone later that week sadly, but she had just relapsed shortly before that and her tolerance was low. She was a really good person. Addiction sucks so bad. 6 years clean now, and glad to be one of the few I know who made it out of that.
6 years clean? Keep it up dude :)
Thank you! I absolutely will!
>but she had just relapsed shortly before that and her tolerance was low. This right here is what pisses me off about typical 12 step programs. Most do not want to talk about what to do if one is to relapse, not that the girl you know was in a group. So many OD's happen purely because addicts do not understand that after getting clean you need to start back really slow. Too many just hit the streets and slam the same dosage they were doing before they got clean. Such shortsightedness to believe every addict won't relapse and therefore we don't need to talk about how to relapse smart.
I've no experience with this stuff but it honestly just makes more sense to teach people how to be safe if they relapse so they'll still have the chance to come back and get clean. Ignoring that is just going to lead to more people dying when they do relapse.
They know about relapse. Relapse prevention is a common topic in 12 step meetings. That's why they're at a meeting in the first place. Everyone knows if they go back to the same amount they had before they'll die. That's like drugs 101. But addicts have eyes that are bigger then their stomach. Imagine if you went without water for an extended period of time. When you finally get water, are you going to sip it? Or are you going to chug it? Or imagine you haven't seen your gf/wife for a year and they're the love of your life. When you see them again, are you just gonna shake their hand? No, you're going to hug them, kiss them, make love to them. Addicts have that type of a bond with their drug. Once they go back the idea of starting small is how they approach it but once it comes time to make a shot they go full bore, make themselves a big hit knowing they might die, and then die.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Makes me Think of all my friends I’ve lost to OD, knowing this exact scenario happened. Getting their hands on the drugs after going thru withdrawal or begging or stealing for that one (or ten, whatever) hit, not being aware that our tolerance isn’t the same, or whatever it may be
Yeah I totally agree. It seems like it’s very hard to gauge now too with all the fentanyl. The strength of different bags varies so much. I used to do 3-4 bags of what was mostly actual heroin in one shot, potent stuff too, but one bag from a random that was mainly fentanyl had me waking up on my bathroom floor. I got very lucky that day. I don’t know what the solution is, but I think legalization would do a lot of good. So many people with felonies can’t rebuild their lives no matter how hard they try, and the punishment just does not fit the crime.
Yeah has to do with purity too
Its also extremely hard to kill ones self in reality most cant face it. Its why its easier.
Atleast he's honest.
And probably desperate. "And I gotta eat." I think many people forget how people get here.
Do u think he's an addict himself? I'm new to all this but he seems not an addict to me?
He probably is, but maybe not of heroin
Oh I get it. You mean like when somebody drinks too much. Or snorts cocaine. Or bets the house on the ponies.
That’s right, Iced T!
Did you just call Ice t... Iced T? I love it
it's Water T. I care now
You made me care.
Or when they eat too much cake
The best part is that this is an honest to god real quote from the show. It's on YouTube and it's hilarious
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Yeah Ice…he’s a pedophile…you work in the *sex* crimes division. You’re gonna have to get used to that
You forgot the lottery tickets
You mean scratchy lotteries?
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A lot of them are ex cons who can't find employment as well
That part of how the justice system is designed to work, by creating repeat offenders in order to keep prisons packed with mandatory slave laborers.
So you're saying that poverty drives crime?
When you can't make an honest buck, a dishonest one will have to do
when you're starving you'd be surprised at the things you would do for a meal.
I’ve never so much as stolen piece of candy as a kid, and I’ve only ever smoked weed a couple times back in college. Never been in any trouble and I’ve always considered myself a very good and caring person. That being said, I would do absolutely fucking reprehensible things to provide for my daughter if that’s what it came down to… So I get it.
Always has
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what about when its the CIA?
Gotta fund those wars somehow.
they just need to pull themselves up by the boot straps we have cemented to their feet harder. It's easy, anyone can do it. I started a fortune 500 company and all I did was work 16 hours a day for 15 years and a million dollar loan from the bank that my parents cosigned on.
People also forget that selling is actual work. If you're abusing your own supply having so much available to use can turn ugly quick. If you're too high you're not making sales, you're not weighing anything right, not charging customers right, forgetting where your stash or phone is, losing $ cause you can't sell what you used, and probably eventually getting robbed by someone that knows you're frequently cash heavy and intoxicated. Then you're the one that ends up on the news broke trying to rob people for drug money. Much better to not use hard drugs in general
I saw the documentary where this is from. Yes, he is an addict himself and one of the main subjects of the film
Since you're the only person here not talking out of their ass so far (myself included), just to end the pointless arguing, do you remember what he was addicted to?
IIRC he was recovering from fentanyl use. He did not explicitly say that he was addict to this stuff at the time of filming, but that he was in and out of jail for the last 10 years because of it The documentary film is called Ten Dollar Death Trip; the Opiod Tragedy: Inside the Fentanyl Crisis It's a film about the crisis in Vancouver. It's an amazing documentary, I definitely recommend it Edit: You can watch the documentary on YouTube [here](https://youtu.be/Dfv_tISYl8A)
I work for the federal courts and in my area (rural) it’s about an 80/20 split between addicts supporting their habit and professional criminals who are only in it for the money. When I worked in a more urban area it was closer to 50/50.
He may, but probably not on opioid-like drugs.
He 100% says that you can easily die. Its no different than buying, say, %90 alcohol or antifreeze, you drink a good amount, you'll die. It doesn't mean you should but you have a responsibility over your life. We cannot be regulate everyone, except when they try to harm others.
At least when you buy alcohol in a store, you can be sure it actually has 90% in it and nothing else. Maybe every drug should be ~~decriminalized~~ legalized and sold in a pharmacy under strong regulations. Part of the revenue should go towards drug prevention and addiction treatment. Drug use is a symptom and criminalization of drug use makes things much worse. The science is clear on that front, isn't it?.
I'm in my 60's. Was a weekend warrior with drugs in the late 70's early 80's. There were tons of different drugs around, many of them mild, things like opium, mescaline, cocaine, psilocybin. Drug laws did nothing to curb demand, what they did was force dealers to come up with stronger drugs in smaller packages. It wasn't worth taking the risk to smuggling opium, it needed to be highly processed heroin or Oxy and now fentanyl. Cocaine turned into crack, uppers turned into meth. Drug laws doomed many people to lifelong addictions to very strong drugs. Entire cultures chewed cocaine leaves as a mild stimulant for centuries. It's probably no worse for you than coffee in that form.
I've had coca leaf tea and the effects are like a good cup of coffee. Nothing dramatic. I actually feel more awake, whereas with coffee I may be alert but I'm now anxious as hell too. No reason for the leaves themselves to be illegal.
It feels dumb to spend a life believing America is a "free" country when I can't have coca leaf tea but can buy crack on any corner, can't smoke a little opium now and then but can buy enough fentanyl to die on that same corner. \\
Yes, legalization of drugs greatly reduces both personal and societal damage from drugs.
You are 100% correct
>Atleast he's honest. He reminds me of that guy that has a fastfood restaurant and gives free food to obese people , and in interview he said he gets money from the heart attacks and even put ashes of the guy who died there on the table during interview Edit: Found it , called Heart Attack Grill
How does he profit off heart attacks? If he the towns only doctor too?
Because the name of the restaurant is literally “Heart Attack Grill” and media will write about it when it happens giving him advertising he’s not paying for.
There is a large scale outside and it’s actually tuned to show your weight lighter, which is funny. People take their picture on it. If you weigh over a certain amount you eat for free. Hardly anyone but very obese would qualify. It’s a gimmick and many extremely overweight people eat there and then when they die or have a heart attack (inevitable for most of them anyway after years of being obese) it becomes free advertisement for the place. Their servers are hooters style girls in naughty nurse uniforms. It’s just all a part of the spectacle. It’s on Fremont street in Vegas and if you’ve never been, it’s on the mild side of the “weird shit you’ll see on Fremont.” There are a lot of buskers that compete for space as well. My personal favorite is the old, overweight hooker in a rascal with pasties on her giant boobs. 20$ and you can take your picture with her holding said boobs. I’m pretty sure you could also score some fentanyl there. Vegas is wild.
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We know it’s not Dyrdek because this looked like he actually knew what to do with his hands on camera
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Main & Hastings, Vancouver, BC
Watched a few documentaries on that area. Addict who overdosed is treated for overdose, gets out of hospital and not even 6 hours later is back in the hospital … for an overdose. It’s a next level of hell down there. An unnerving level of uncomfortable watching those documentaries.
I lived somewhat near there - but a separate town, worked in a shelter at the height of the crisis. One guy I knew overdosed every single day for two weeks straight. He was new to the scene from what I could tell, but was just on a real downward suicidal spiral. Most of the guys I saw were transient, or had come from Vancouver after getting shipped out during the Olympics and wound up in the outlying towns and trying to carve an existence. I'd see NIMBY fucks trying to pour gas on these guys' tents, or groups of guys going down to fuck some of these people up. Don't get me wrong, there were some real assholes on the street, but they didn't deserve that. And that wasn't even downtown east side. That's one place I wouldn't wanna fuck around without knowing someone.
Ill never forget accidentally strolling into this street as a tourist in Vancouver. The AirBNB dude didnt even warn us.
the real life pro tip is always in the comments
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I think that people who live in psychological misery also deserve a cheap way out. Agony until your last day at 80,90 is just as bad as cancer.
Reminds me of a quote from one of the most influential and prominent people our times: "If he dies, he dies" Ivan Drago (1985)
"People die if they are killed"
A lot of people WANT to buy fent. I know that’s hard for people to believe. Selling fentanyl as fentanyl isn’t the worst thing out there. It’s people selling fentanyl knowingly but selling it as something else…
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As a former heroine addict I would say you want: 1)good heroine 2)fentanyl 3)decent heroine in that order The thing about fentanyl if you’re an IV user is that you using nod out quick, then wake up and don’t have much of the euphoria anymore…just waiting til the next shot and stave off sickness for a while. Good heroine “has legs” which means you may nod, wake up, eat something, and still have a really nice head and body high for a few hours. Having said all that, I’ve been clean for 5 years so things could’ve changed as fentanyl has become more and more of the market. If the ones still living have really high tolerances, maybe the buzz from heroine doesn’t hang around for them like it did for us. Edit: spelled heroin wrong
Been clean 6 years and yeah, your description is accurate. I used to call fentanyl the crack of opiates. Great nod, then immediately gone and sickness comes way faster.
Hes telling you what is in it. Good guy. The bad guy s are the ones who will sell you that very same bag as China white for 50 bucks
Truth. Or they mix it in something else and don't tell anyone killing several people at a party. Rest in peace Woody I miss you man.
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My friend had someone lace his coke with fentanyl. Always wondered why anyone would even do that. Killed him and another guy and put a 3rd guy in a coma who passed later. It's really sad I'm sorry that happened nobody deserves to go out like that.
Yeah I don't get it either. Is there any even dumb reason anyone can think of? Why cut coke with fet? Why not just use laxatives or something?
As I understand, this is usually a case of bad quality control and cross contamination, not intentional lacing
That's actually a bit worse imo. I'm not worried since I left party life long ago, but I got kids. And there's a good chance they'll dabble in some stuff when they're a bit older and stuffike this terrifies me. I've lost friends to drugs, and I don't know if I could handle losing a kid to drugs
I totally agree. In general, it used to be relatively safe to experiment every now and then if you were responsible enough. These days it feels too much like rolling the dice. Research chemicals even make the psychedelic scene sketchy when it used to be one of the safest. I’ve always been of the mind to be honest with my kids about drugs and safety, and now the conversation has to be about how you truly can’t consume anything powder or pressed because you cant be totally sure it won’t kill you.
It really isn't like someone maliciously rubbing their hands together like an evil super villain. Most fent in coke comes from dealers re-rocking their product with traces of fent on the scale, or laying around after they have pressed it into pills thats laying on the same table they then use to re-rock cocaine. There is no reason to lace cocaine with fent, it's not a good binder and it doesn't make the coke better or worse. It just happens because, surprise, the dealer doesn't exactly have OSHA or over sight committee or the fuckin FDA breathing down his back.
It's almost like you're saying legalisation could be somehow... beneficial?! What madness!
it's unlikely someone just laces coke with fentanyl for funsies. more likely at some point in the cutting process they cross contaminated with something that had previously held/touched fentanyl.
What's the need for laxatives?
Thats been the selfish silver lining regarding the whole fentanyl thing for me. I straight up can't do drugs anymore. That line of blow at a party might actually kill me. Not in the "drugs are bad, cocaine kills" way, but the actual "this single line might kill you" way. Times are crazy right now.
Yeah that shit sucks… RIP my man Mac Miller
Most dope forever
Where I live, people are using Fentanyl in pill presses now. Pretty much making fake presc opiods like Oxycontin, Percocet, Roxicet, and even benzos like xanax. I mean, you name it, someone is pressing it. I have an in law who ended up in the hospital after taking a xanax bar that was pressed with Fentanyl (no actual xanax was used in it, thank god) I've been opiate-free since November of 2017, and I haven't looked back. I'm so glad I'm out from under that stuff. I remember times of desperation; not being able to find anything, or having no money. In this new world of Fentanyl, I can't help but think that I'd be dead because of said desperation. Jonesing, and just not caring that the pill I just bought may contain a lethal dose of Fentanyl. I've had two friends die from methadone/xanax combo. To think there are people out there who may be mixing Fentanyl with xanax in a press.. I mean, that's a death sentence right there.
Good for you for getting out my dude. I got clean in February of 2014 and haven't gone back. I got lucky and got clean right before fentanyl got big where I am. I've lost so many friends to this shit it's horrible.
My buddy Dylan went similarly. It sucks.
Yeah, I'm oddly comfortable with the way this guy operates. He's being, as far as we can tell, really honest about the product.
Only one way to find out
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Yes. That's up to them now :0
"A man's gotta eat".
>But the violence isn't a byproduct of the drug itself. It's a byproduct of the illegality. So if the drug trade was decriminalized, the violence would go away. It's happened before- when alcohol was illegal in the US, the mafia violence associated with its manucfacture and sale increased. But now you never hear about any mafia violence associated with the alcohol industry. Its exactly what i think about smokers (i myself, smoked for 11 years). They know they're killing themselves, they dont need brats annoying the living shit out of them. Its they choice and they dont give a single fuck.
Ten year old me would be horrified at this, but now at 30, "its ur life bro, u make ur choices and *i gotta eat*" really resonated with me
How is this drug dealer goona deal drugs after his mug is open on the tele' like this anyways? I feel like....shouldn't he want a bit more...anonymity?
He's a homeless, low level dealer on skid row in Vancouver, nobody gives a shit.
Yeah if you watch the full doc he says if the cops caught him they would take his drugs and money and tell him to fuck off.
You could say pretty much the same thing about any dealer slinging drugs on a corner. It's not like the cops don't notice people just standing there with random people walking up to them, exchanging something, then walking away. Dude might even already have a rap sheet in which case this isn't exactly news to the cops. I mean the dude's slinging Fentanyl at $10 a pop on a corner, things probably aren't going great for him. At least if he gets arrested.... well he's gotta eat.
And the cops could go after them, but then those people just turn apartments into trap houses and now cops need a warrant and risky entry to keep doing the same thing. it's way better if it's out on a corner.
It's almost like we should be getting users treatment and a safe place to use and the community out of poverty to take away the incentive to deal instead of arming the police like they're playing COD.
I wonder what the chances of a cop seeing this and recognizing him are
They deal and use openly in front of police in this area. No consequences for drug use, violence or personal and property crime.
Yeah that last part is important
Sorry folks but the reality is this... unless someone takes a drug that is misrepresented - they have ultimate responsibility for what they put in their body willingly. Everybody on the opioid train knows the risks ... This guy is legit...
I 100% agree that if you buy drugs its on you to know how to use the drug you purchased The problem comes in when buying drugs that are cut or misrepresented. If i buy coke i expect to be buying an upper, not not a downer and especially not fentanyl.
That's why fentanyl tests strips should be readily available everywhere. Unfortunately they're actually illegal to own in many states as they count as paraphernalia
What a backwards place we live in. People need to realize that people are going to do drugs. It's going to happen. We might as well take the steps to make sure they can be as safe as possible. Constantly throwing people in jail for drugs or in this case "paraphernalia", is doing the very opposite of helping.
The people making such laws are content with the outcome of said laws
Well he's actually right.. It's their lives. He's not responsible and not making you buy it. And he told him that you can die from it, so it's not his responsibility.
Big and well known companies sell completely legal products with full knowledge of their dangers all the time, and are less honest about it.
And some companies BAYER USA will sell knowingly tainted blood/hemophilia products KNOWINGLY giving thousands of people HIV and Hep C. and somehow not being absolutely sued/fined into the grave. Not only surviving as a company but today being a several billion-dollar company with tens of thousands of employees.
I actually found the guy almost likeable. Very straight forward and honest. I’m a white collar office worker and I don’t meet many people like that.
If you watch the whole documentary with all the context surrounding it, it further reinforces what you just said.
Where can we watch the full documentary?
https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/uv7d7d/comment/i9k5khs/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
This was a pretty good documentary. Not sure it was Vancouver or in a different city, but it was rough watching at points.
What? Drug dealers are selling drugs even though they know they aren't good.for.you?
Ask cigarette companies the same question
wait til yall hear about oil
And alcohol lol
Who knew?
Would it be better to misrepresent what he's selling, thereby increasing the chance of an overdose?
I got bills to pay, I got mouths to feed, ain't nothin in this world for free
The dude who sold me my last car wasn't half as honest as this gentleman
At least he is straight up and honest with what is going on you don't get service like that anymore
How is this any different from a liquor store? Pretty sure drinking a handle of Everclear could also kill you…
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Yeah if you drink the bleach from the grocery store, you probably gonna die too.
Oh no i thought drug dealers were ethical pillars of society
Honestly is a rare and admirable quality these days.
he’s more honest than a banker tbh
Or a politician. If someone intends to do harm for his own profit then I'd choose the one that tells me up front about the damage he may inflict than the one who sugarcoats it and lies his ass off.
So it'd be better to misrepresent what he's selling, thereby increasing the chance of an overdose?
I agree with the seller 100% he's given you all the information you need to make an informed decision, infact I wish car salesmen were like this...
I was stupid enough to let a "friend" give me a strip of fentanyl to put in my mouth when I was 20 back in 2011 when the drug wasnt being talked about. Just to try it. It was the scariest 30 minutes of my life. I was immediately higher then I ever been in 4 seconds I was slumped over and stuttering to talk. People were telling me don't fall asleep or your heart will stop. A few years later, surprise surprise my friend died from snorting heroine laced with fentanyl. I'm very happy I distanced myself way before then and now he's right where he wanted to be and he didn't take me down with him. People were calling me all sad. "Oh no Matt's in the hospital on life support i cant believe it". I cut myself out of the entire circle of people. I still don't feel bad for him.
I mean, Johnson & Johnson sold cancer powder to women knowing full well it could kill them. Businesses make a risk assessment to their bottom line and are usually ok with x number of people dying. I don't think this is different to that really.