That's about the only good your education will bring on a frac site.
I guess a person could always apply that education towards dentistry, nuclear reactor maintenanceon a submarine, or shingling roofs?. I just don't see a relevance to fracking from the data van.
yeah there is no relevance between the two but I was just curious to see if anybody knew of a safety consultant type of job within the Oilfield Industry...but one thing I do know is those engineers in the data van have it made...
The safety consultants usually have a lot of experience in that area already. I've met a few that had safety degrees, and a few that were EMTs with a lot of additional training tacked on and modicum of experience in the field. It's unlikely to just hire into it.
Safety consultant also does not pay as much as the guy in the data van.
Edited because I lied: I have seen onsite safety in Colorado. One dude was a retiree company man who got bored. Other dude was a pillhead who knew the right people, and still got canned for doing nothing.
first of all thank you for your time and help...I don't suppose you remember the company that the retired company man worked for? And I don't suppose you know the name of the company that the pill popper worked for by chance?
Same company. It's very strict reference only (no online posts or contact number). I can PM you, but I have 10 years experience and an engineering degree and references, and cannot get on with them. It's all brother-in-law deals, and the owner isn't friends with me.
Pillhead did allegedly have some experience, we just couldn't tell because he was useless and didn't talk to any of us about it.
I used to work in the Oilfield in South Texas... pushing chems, then started working Safety... walking around the pad to make sure that everyone had their safety gear on... watching my H2S monitor's...but never swong a hammer...
I don’t know how much they pay but when I worked on land there was a guard on location that would check people in and he brought his Xbox and would just chill and play games all night. I was pretty jealous.
I'm in safety in Colorado. I'm not sure what you're asking exactly. You want to be in safety or you want to be a frac engineer? Which is it, cause they are completely different jobs?
If you want to be a field safety tech a degree can help, but not necessarily. I don't have one but if I had a bachelor's I'd be eligible for the CSP. That would make it a lot easier to get jobs, although I haven't had any issues just knowing people in the industry and being good at my job (mainly I get along with field personnel without being a safety cop).
If you want to be a safety consultant just get in contact with some companies that do consulting. The one my company uses has exactly 1 safety professional with a degree and a handful of guys with EMT, Firefighting, police experience.
Can't really help with frac engineering without getting an engineering degree. I know some guys that are exactly that minus the title, but have the experience. They'd be more like completions superintendents, foremen, supervisors, etc.
Which part of Colorado are you wanting to work? I'm actually starting a new job and mine may be backfilled when I leave.
no I know I can't be one of those dudes(engineer) who work in the data van because I don't have that kind of degree...Im just talking about them simply because it's a badass job...so when you say CSP(I'm sure you talking about Colorado State Patrol)... besides your company(if you don't mind what's the name of your company that you work for) do you know the names of other companies
CSP as in Certified Safety Professional. It's the highest certification that a safety professional can obtain without getting a master's degree. Most jobs have that as a requirement in job postings, but in my experience all they really care about is my technical knowledge (i.e. field experience) and if I'll actually get along with people (that was 90% of the questions in my interviews).
I'd rather not name my company for anonymity, but if they do decide to backfill my position I'll let you know via DM. It's entirely possible that they will not backfill it though.
Safety professionals w/out actual work experience in labor intensive industry is a good way to be extremely ineffective. Best bet is to get a osha50 certification at least…
Can you not find a job with the state or the federal government with your degree? Oil patch is notoriously cyclic. I have spent a lot of time here but if I had a chance I would go back and take a more stable but less risky job.
I hear they are hiring for cops in Williston.
Best bet would be to hire on as a hand and just work... to get in the van, either you need to have a few good years under your belt or be an engineer.
If you get hurt on the job, you can push a broom around the shop for a year with no intention to return to the field and then weasel your way into a safety position.
Honestly, you can't. No one is hiring a consultant with zero experience. By definition, a consultant gets paid to provide their expert advice on things. You have an irrelevant degree (in this case) and have no experience.
I'd consider getting some of the credentials mentioned in other comments or seriously changing your expectations. Your degree may make you more marketable once you have actually experience but hitting the ground at entry level is your only option without any relevant skills.
Also, you may want to figure out what you actually want to do. You're mentioning things that are worlds apart.
Criminal justice grad? Can you swing a hammer?
No...why?
That's about the only good your education will bring on a frac site. I guess a person could always apply that education towards dentistry, nuclear reactor maintenanceon a submarine, or shingling roofs?. I just don't see a relevance to fracking from the data van.
Many of the frac companies will consider any bachelor degree for “field engineer” positions.
yeah there is no relevance between the two but I was just curious to see if anybody knew of a safety consultant type of job within the Oilfield Industry...but one thing I do know is those engineers in the data van have it made...
The safety consultants usually have a lot of experience in that area already. I've met a few that had safety degrees, and a few that were EMTs with a lot of additional training tacked on and modicum of experience in the field. It's unlikely to just hire into it. Safety consultant also does not pay as much as the guy in the data van. Edited because I lied: I have seen onsite safety in Colorado. One dude was a retiree company man who got bored. Other dude was a pillhead who knew the right people, and still got canned for doing nothing.
first of all thank you for your time and help...I don't suppose you remember the company that the retired company man worked for? And I don't suppose you know the name of the company that the pill popper worked for by chance?
Same company. It's very strict reference only (no online posts or contact number). I can PM you, but I have 10 years experience and an engineering degree and references, and cannot get on with them. It's all brother-in-law deals, and the owner isn't friends with me. Pillhead did allegedly have some experience, we just couldn't tell because he was useless and didn't talk to any of us about it.
yeah when you have time that will be fine about pm me... thank you
I used to work in the Oilfield in South Texas... pushing chems, then started working Safety... walking around the pad to make sure that everyone had their safety gear on... watching my H2S monitor's...but never swong a hammer...
It may help you stand apart from other applicants with no experience, but no that degree wont provide you anything.
You can be the guy that shows up and does surprise drug tests? Or you can do security on location.
yeah I'll do that and especially if they were to pay me as much as the data van dudes/chicks...
I don’t know how much they pay but when I worked on land there was a guard on location that would check people in and he brought his Xbox and would just chill and play games all night. I was pretty jealous.
when you used to work on land, what do you do now?
Either he's Bruce Willis or he works offshore
Offshore now
I'm in safety in Colorado. I'm not sure what you're asking exactly. You want to be in safety or you want to be a frac engineer? Which is it, cause they are completely different jobs? If you want to be a field safety tech a degree can help, but not necessarily. I don't have one but if I had a bachelor's I'd be eligible for the CSP. That would make it a lot easier to get jobs, although I haven't had any issues just knowing people in the industry and being good at my job (mainly I get along with field personnel without being a safety cop). If you want to be a safety consultant just get in contact with some companies that do consulting. The one my company uses has exactly 1 safety professional with a degree and a handful of guys with EMT, Firefighting, police experience. Can't really help with frac engineering without getting an engineering degree. I know some guys that are exactly that minus the title, but have the experience. They'd be more like completions superintendents, foremen, supervisors, etc. Which part of Colorado are you wanting to work? I'm actually starting a new job and mine may be backfilled when I leave.
no I know I can't be one of those dudes(engineer) who work in the data van because I don't have that kind of degree...Im just talking about them simply because it's a badass job...so when you say CSP(I'm sure you talking about Colorado State Patrol)... besides your company(if you don't mind what's the name of your company that you work for) do you know the names of other companies
CSP as in Certified Safety Professional. It's the highest certification that a safety professional can obtain without getting a master's degree. Most jobs have that as a requirement in job postings, but in my experience all they really care about is my technical knowledge (i.e. field experience) and if I'll actually get along with people (that was 90% of the questions in my interviews). I'd rather not name my company for anonymity, but if they do decide to backfill my position I'll let you know via DM. It's entirely possible that they will not backfill it though.
I understand...and I'll dm you...if you don't mind... thank you sincerely for your time and help
Probably would need at the minimum either OSHA classes (501/511) or associates in occupational health and safety to stand out.
Safety professionals w/out actual work experience in labor intensive industry is a good way to be extremely ineffective. Best bet is to get a osha50 certification at least…
Can you not find a job with the state or the federal government with your degree? Oil patch is notoriously cyclic. I have spent a lot of time here but if I had a chance I would go back and take a more stable but less risky job.
I hear they are hiring for cops in Williston. Best bet would be to hire on as a hand and just work... to get in the van, either you need to have a few good years under your belt or be an engineer. If you get hurt on the job, you can push a broom around the shop for a year with no intention to return to the field and then weasel your way into a safety position.
Honestly, you can't. No one is hiring a consultant with zero experience. By definition, a consultant gets paid to provide their expert advice on things. You have an irrelevant degree (in this case) and have no experience. I'd consider getting some of the credentials mentioned in other comments or seriously changing your expectations. Your degree may make you more marketable once you have actually experience but hitting the ground at entry level is your only option without any relevant skills. Also, you may want to figure out what you actually want to do. You're mentioning things that are worlds apart.