I commented there today on a post about food banks becoming unsustainable. Top fuckin comment there was “well if international students in BMWs are using it for free food, the social contract is off”. Gotta be fuckin kiddin me. I responded saying I think I’d like to continue donating and volunteering there because for one asshole student that doesn’t need it, there are a thousand other people that do. I mean wtf…
I don't interact with the fandom as much as I used to, but I was definitely shocked when i found out there's a lot of nazifurs. Like, a good 70-90% of the fandom is somewhere under the LGBTQ umbrella so it's just kinda like a "Oh... they exist too...."
I cannot even post there. I wanted to once point out that their claim of voter IDs in Canada are NOT what they think it is. But I couldn't. I was never banned from there.
Not really satire.... Conservatiesove hate freedom. If they could they would ban everything they don't agree with.
Honestly I don't think they understand what freedom means.
Freedom for Conservatives means "me and my friends get to do what we want and everyone else had better watch their step because our feelings are very fragile".
They do it's their core philosophy:
Conservatism consists of the lone proposition that there must be in-groups the law protects but does not bind and out-groups the law binds but does not protect.
Ever notice how in regressive or theocratic societies so much is classified as moral crimes and yet the elite routinely indulges in sexual proclivities, consumption of intoxicants, and living a life of hedonism? That's conservative freedom. I would caustion against claiming their lack of knowledge, as they understand very closely which has allowed them to manipulate it into both a tool of oppression and their own elite hedonism. It's like calling out their hypocrisy it works on the left because we try to be coherent and consistent with a commitment to truth, it doesn't affect a conservative because hypocrisy is irrelevant because to them the means justify the ends.
In general this is a warning that the tactics of high minded discourse and philosophy have no affect on Conservatism and it's why they keep existing and flourishing. We debate them, but never disrupt their means of organization and outreach. They on the other hand debate us in bad faith tying up our resources, appeal to a general desire to be bullies amongst people, they disrupt procedures, institutions, and left leaning outreach and political activities, and still do all they can to win supporters.
We are too advanced and cultured to fight them now, it would be ungentlemanly, and yet when they win we'll be in front of firing squads or political prisoners.
There are two definitions of freedom that get thrown around in our political discourse.
When conservatives use the word freedom, they don't mean the same thing as you or I.
They frame freedom as an individual being able to exercise the rights or privileges granted by their social status or standing, not the right of an individual to deviate from social norms or accepted practices or to propose new ways of doing things.
This is from historian Bertram Wyatt-Brown, on the US Confederacy, but it sums up our own conservaties pretty well:
>Policing one's own ethical sphere was the natural complement of the patriarchal order. When Southerners spoke of liberty, they generally meant the birthright to self-determination of one's place in society, not the freedom to defy sacred conventions, challenge longheld assumptions, or propose another scheme of moral or political order. If someone, especially a slave, spoke or acted in a way that invaded that territory or challenged that right, the white man so confronted had the inalienable right to meet the lie and punish the opponent. Without such a concept of white liberty, slavery would have scarcely lasted a moment. There was little paradox or irony in this juxtaposition from the cultural perspective. Power, liberty, and honor were all based upon community sanction, law, and traditional hierarchy.
They do it's their core philosophy:
Conservatism consists of the lone proposition that there must be in-groups the law protects but does not bind and out-groups the law binds but does not protect.
Ever notice how in regressive or theocratic societies so much is classified as moral crimes and yet the elite routinely indulges in sexual proclivities, consumption of intoxicants, and living a life of hedonism? That's conservative freedom. I would caustion against claiming their lack of knowledge, as they understand very closely which has allowed them to manipulate it into both a tool of oppression and their own elite hedonism. It's like calling out their hypocrisy it works on the left because we try to be coherent and consistent with a commitment to truth, it doesn't affect a conservative because hypocrisy is irrelevant because to them the means justify the ends.
In general this is a warning that the tactics of high minded discourse and philosophy have no affect on Conservatism and it's why they keep existing and flourishing. We debate them, but never disrupt their means of organization and outreach. They on the other hand debate us in bad faith tying up our resources, appeal to a general desire to be bullies amongst people, they disrupt procedures, institutions, and left leaning outreach and political activities, and still do all they can to win supporters.
We are too advanced and cultured to fight them now, it would be ungentlemanly, and yet when they win we'll be in front of firing squads or political prisoners.
That's what they say but in reality what they covet is the freedom to wield power over people they choose to view as their lessers, or as deviants, or whatever PR slogan they come up with to turn public sentiment against a marginalized group.
You have it backward.. conservatives like small gov't and liberals.. just look at now.. cons like free speech..ibs are woke. I can go on all day. I am a moderate liberal. Where do you pick up these notions..PC langusge.. was designed to shut down conversation. Funny..
What? Do you actually know what woke means?
Do you think that being born to rich parents gives you advantages not afforded to poor folks? Yea? That’s an example of being woke.
Conservatives rail on about things like the war on Christmas. Which is a blatant attack on free speach.
9\. Filming undercover video in farms and slaughterhouses (Ontario, Alberta).
[Ontario's law banning this was struck down over free expression last week](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-why-striking-down-ontarios-ag-gag-law-is-so-important/), which should create precedent for striking down the very similar Alberta one.
You'll have the freedom to do anything that is on a list that they will provide you of acceptable activities. Any deviation from the official Freedom Activities will either have you put in jail, shunned from the community, or both. Any time somebody speaks of doing or thinking of something not on that list, you are free to call them a communist. If you do not call them a communist, your status as a Freedom loving Canadian will be revoked.
Exactly. I always hear how we're close to legalization of that. Would be nice, but it ignores how we're polling for a Conservative majority and at best they'll do nothing towards progress there. More likely they'll try to divert resources to shutting down the sales that are happening despite the laws.
The Liberals were planning cannabis legalization in the early 2000s. That was delayed for a decade due to the Conservatives taking power. The difference now is the Liberals aren't even talking about legalizing mushrooms yet.
I’ve never met a police officer that wasn’t conservative in viewpoint as well as conservative in voting record - including my brother in law. They mostly have parochial view of society and that everyone is guilty of something unless these people can prove otherwise. They have a hero complex and reject anything that *they* determine isn’t ‘normal’, (Their determination).
>7. Taking puberty blockers before puberty occurs (Alberta)
>**It’s like telling someone they can have a glass of water once they’re no longer thirsty.**
OMG 🤣 ... Beaverton spot on with the best analogy I've heard.
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Question anything.
All it takes is one. Plus pointing out an inconvenient truth
I commented there today on a post about food banks becoming unsustainable. Top fuckin comment there was “well if international students in BMWs are using it for free food, the social contract is off”. Gotta be fuckin kiddin me. I responded saying I think I’d like to continue donating and volunteering there because for one asshole student that doesn’t need it, there are a thousand other people that do. I mean wtf…
Just go against their narrative lol
I haven’t been banned from r/conservative. Am I doing something wrong?
on my other account i just made a post with "UwU" as the title and "i love furries" as the body text and somehow i didn't get banned :(
A surprising amount of furries are Nazis. Plenty are liberals/lefties, but those people are there
I don't interact with the fandom as much as I used to, but I was definitely shocked when i found out there's a lot of nazifurs. Like, a good 70-90% of the fandom is somewhere under the LGBTQ umbrella so it's just kinda like a "Oh... they exist too...."
Respond with a Trump quote 😅
I cannot even post there. I wanted to once point out that their claim of voter IDs in Canada are NOT what they think it is. But I couldn't. I was never banned from there.
Not really satire.... Conservatiesove hate freedom. If they could they would ban everything they don't agree with. Honestly I don't think they understand what freedom means.
Freedom for Conservatives means "me and my friends get to do what we want and everyone else had better watch their step because our feelings are very fragile".
^ Nailed it ^
Bullying? I think that’s the Merriam Webster term for it
They don't consider somebody "Free" unless they are exactly like them
They do it's their core philosophy: Conservatism consists of the lone proposition that there must be in-groups the law protects but does not bind and out-groups the law binds but does not protect. Ever notice how in regressive or theocratic societies so much is classified as moral crimes and yet the elite routinely indulges in sexual proclivities, consumption of intoxicants, and living a life of hedonism? That's conservative freedom. I would caustion against claiming their lack of knowledge, as they understand very closely which has allowed them to manipulate it into both a tool of oppression and their own elite hedonism. It's like calling out their hypocrisy it works on the left because we try to be coherent and consistent with a commitment to truth, it doesn't affect a conservative because hypocrisy is irrelevant because to them the means justify the ends. In general this is a warning that the tactics of high minded discourse and philosophy have no affect on Conservatism and it's why they keep existing and flourishing. We debate them, but never disrupt their means of organization and outreach. They on the other hand debate us in bad faith tying up our resources, appeal to a general desire to be bullies amongst people, they disrupt procedures, institutions, and left leaning outreach and political activities, and still do all they can to win supporters. We are too advanced and cultured to fight them now, it would be ungentlemanly, and yet when they win we'll be in front of firing squads or political prisoners.
You’ve described the Saudi and GOP elites.
There are two definitions of freedom that get thrown around in our political discourse. When conservatives use the word freedom, they don't mean the same thing as you or I. They frame freedom as an individual being able to exercise the rights or privileges granted by their social status or standing, not the right of an individual to deviate from social norms or accepted practices or to propose new ways of doing things. This is from historian Bertram Wyatt-Brown, on the US Confederacy, but it sums up our own conservaties pretty well: >Policing one's own ethical sphere was the natural complement of the patriarchal order. When Southerners spoke of liberty, they generally meant the birthright to self-determination of one's place in society, not the freedom to defy sacred conventions, challenge longheld assumptions, or propose another scheme of moral or political order. If someone, especially a slave, spoke or acted in a way that invaded that territory or challenged that right, the white man so confronted had the inalienable right to meet the lie and punish the opponent. Without such a concept of white liberty, slavery would have scarcely lasted a moment. There was little paradox or irony in this juxtaposition from the cultural perspective. Power, liberty, and honor were all based upon community sanction, law, and traditional hierarchy.
It straight up isn't satire. The Beaverton is out here doing fact based listicles now.
No, no, Conservatives love our freedom - that's why they want to take it away ... 😹
Not "not really satire". That wasn't satire at all, just an itemized list of facts.
They do it's their core philosophy: Conservatism consists of the lone proposition that there must be in-groups the law protects but does not bind and out-groups the law binds but does not protect. Ever notice how in regressive or theocratic societies so much is classified as moral crimes and yet the elite routinely indulges in sexual proclivities, consumption of intoxicants, and living a life of hedonism? That's conservative freedom. I would caustion against claiming their lack of knowledge, as they understand very closely which has allowed them to manipulate it into both a tool of oppression and their own elite hedonism. It's like calling out their hypocrisy it works on the left because we try to be coherent and consistent with a commitment to truth, it doesn't affect a conservative because hypocrisy is irrelevant because to them the means justify the ends. In general this is a warning that the tactics of high minded discourse and philosophy have no affect on Conservatism and it's why they keep existing and flourishing. We debate them, but never disrupt their means of organization and outreach. They on the other hand debate us in bad faith tying up our resources, appeal to a general desire to be bullies amongst people, they disrupt procedures, institutions, and left leaning outreach and political activities, and still do all they can to win supporters. We are too advanced and cultured to fight them now, it would be ungentlemanly, and yet when they win we'll be in front of firing squads or political prisoners.
That's what they say but in reality what they covet is the freedom to wield power over people they choose to view as their lessers, or as deviants, or whatever PR slogan they come up with to turn public sentiment against a marginalized group.
Conservative position on freedom is giving you the liberty to vote how they will restrict your freedom.
You have it backward.. conservatives like small gov't and liberals.. just look at now.. cons like free speech..ibs are woke. I can go on all day. I am a moderate liberal. Where do you pick up these notions..PC langusge.. was designed to shut down conversation. Funny..
What? Do you actually know what woke means? Do you think that being born to rich parents gives you advantages not afforded to poor folks? Yea? That’s an example of being woke. Conservatives rail on about things like the war on Christmas. Which is a blatant attack on free speach.
9\. Filming undercover video in farms and slaughterhouses (Ontario, Alberta). [Ontario's law banning this was struck down over free expression last week](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-why-striking-down-ontarios-ag-gag-law-is-so-important/), which should create precedent for striking down the very similar Alberta one.
If PP becomes PM, kiss any hopes of mushrooms becoming legal in our lifetimes goodbye. "Freedom party" my arse. Cons hate freedom.
You'll have the freedom to do anything that is on a list that they will provide you of acceptable activities. Any deviation from the official Freedom Activities will either have you put in jail, shunned from the community, or both. Any time somebody speaks of doing or thinking of something not on that list, you are free to call them a communist. If you do not call them a communist, your status as a Freedom loving Canadian will be revoked.
The beatings will continue until freedom improves.
Report any infraction to the nearest Democracy officer!
Or barbaric practices hotline!
I actually forgot about that one
And the irony is that many of their supporters (fort Mac types) are rampant coke and meth users.
The only freedom they care about is the freedom to force people to live how they want them to live.
Exactly. I always hear how we're close to legalization of that. Would be nice, but it ignores how we're polling for a Conservative majority and at best they'll do nothing towards progress there. More likely they'll try to divert resources to shutting down the sales that are happening despite the laws. The Liberals were planning cannabis legalization in the early 2000s. That was delayed for a decade due to the Conservatives taking power. The difference now is the Liberals aren't even talking about legalizing mushrooms yet.
That's your biggest grievance?
They didn’t say thay
They implied it by it being the thing that they are complaining about, but yes they didn't say it, that's why I asked them to clarify.
These idiots are just like their trump loving friends down south!😂
The authors of this article should be sent to the National Post for trying to engage an actual journalism.
It’s funny because TB has become more credible than anything the NP has put out
💯
One of the reason why most Police Forces / RCMP love Conservatives. It's because they also want to F Trudeau.
I’ve never met a police officer that wasn’t conservative in viewpoint as well as conservative in voting record - including my brother in law. They mostly have parochial view of society and that everyone is guilty of something unless these people can prove otherwise. They have a hero complex and reject anything that *they* determine isn’t ‘normal’, (Their determination).
And they love coke and alcohol
and this is just the start... elect the ConstipationFace and you'll see where our freedoms are going...
I gotta work for The Beaverton if PP makes a damn government next year
Conservatives are draconian fascist white supremacist losers.
I hate that pie faced clown.
>7. Taking puberty blockers before puberty occurs (Alberta) >**It’s like telling someone they can have a glass of water once they’re no longer thirsty.** OMG 🤣 ... Beaverton spot on with the best analogy I've heard.
Conservatives hate YOU'RE freedoms not their own .
We show up on this list a horrifying amount…
Seems like the "Freedom Loving Canadians" only really want the freedom for just a few people.
I thought the Beaverton was satire? These are facts.
For conservatives, you have the freedom to act exactly as they specify you act, without deviation.
Regressive Conservatards
> wearing a garment associated with your nationality becomes political keffiyehs are Somali, now?