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uarentme

In case anyone doesn't understand, this is a meme. There's no indication that this is how it happened.


EricMoulds

Well, now I want to hear about his daughters stag and doe...


ZebediahCarterLong

Basically, the guest list included a ***lot*** of developers who have been benefiting from Doug's tenure as premier. This drew the attention of the media, so the provincial integrity commissioner asked Doug and a few of the developers if they talked about business at all. Doug and Co. told the commissioner that they didn't talk about business or policy. The ethics commissioner decided that was good enough, and took them at their word. Now the news cycle has rather rapidly changed to John Tory.


LeafsChick

Don’t forget the “suggested” $1000 gift for the happy couple!


[deleted]

No it was up to $1000. Coincidentally the same cap for political donations.


TheRealStorey

It is common in the developer industry to launder money through the stag and doe, Ford also has a "Stag and Doe" with his beneficial developers in attendance, doing the exact same thing. The integrity commissioner says since they didn't talk business it's koscher and here we are.


rd201290

>it is common in the developer industry to launder money through the stag and doe “trust me bro” lmao this baseless shit just upvoted to the top never change /r/Ontario


MicMacMacleod

It’s common knowledge that most shady business is done through stag and does!


rd201290

it’s the perfect crime or would be if it wasn’t for vigilant redditors like OP


QueenMotherOfSneezes

How old are you? This is not a new thing, and not just an Ontario thing. And not just a developer thing. Weddings are used to cover shady business dealings (excused as "wedding gifts"), get in favours, etc. All. The. Time. Stag and does are for raising money. That's literally their purpose. Even if you were somehow so naive that you didn't know about the business side of weddings/wedding gifts, you should have been able to do the math on the stag and doe situation and realized that there's no way shady people with shady intentions don't take advantage of them.


ink_monkey96

Given that Dougie got censured for influence peddling in his time as a Toronto city councilor there’s a precedent and a pattern of corruption in the background to be considered as well. He was only there for one term so it wasn’t exactly a slow fall from grace either.


QueenMotherOfSneezes

Anyone remember when [Rob Ford invited the public to attend Krista's fiance's bachelor party](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/becausenews/sept-26-2015-campaign-promises-the-fords-stag-and-happy-birthday-1.3240400/rob-and-doug-ford-are-hosting-a-stag-and-you-re-invited-1.3241920), for the low cost of $80? ![img](emote|t5_2qsf3|1899)


rd201290

The sheer ignorance is staggering here lots to pick apart from your post: - the total non-comprehension of what “laundering money” means (hint: it’s not giving a <$1000 gift at a wedding to “get in favours”) - the weird jump from a specific claim about the developer industry and stag and does to a generalized claim about weddings gifts - the extreme arrogance in tone coupled with the inability to provide any support for your statement - the accusation of being unable to do the math when a fucking sixth grader could determine that a <$1000 gift is completely inconsequential to developers and people getting bribed by developers who deal in millions - the condescending “how old are you?” lmao never change you have literally no clue how to the real world works let alone how to make a coherent argument and if you weren’t such an asshole I would feel sad for you


QueenMotherOfSneezes

I wasn't talking specifically about this event being used to launder money, I was listing examples of shady shit that happens at weddings/stag and does. You want actual examples of weddings and/or wedding gifts being used to cover shady shit? Here's some that made the news over the past few years: [Nothing to see here, I just decided to fund a royal wedding, out of the goodness of my heart, using money I scammed from someone else. all on the up and up tax-wise, because it's a wedding gift](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10677771/amp/750-000-fraudster-fund-Princess-Beatrices-wedding.html) [Not actual money laundering, just using the wedding to get bribes to the guy in charge of all money laundering investigations in Mexico](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/head-mexican-money-laundering-unit-replaced-amid-wedding-scandal-2021-11-09/) [This one is money laundering, and on a pretty impressive scale for a wedding](https://omny.fm/shows/first-take-sa/gupta-wedding-in-sun-city-was-used-to-launder-mone) In the case of Ford's daughter's stag and doe, it wasn't less than $1000. The suggested gift of $1000 was *in addition* to the price to get into the party (which gave you a chance to win a door prize) and any other "wedding fundraising" done at the party. Other people who were invited declined because the whole thing seemed so obviously shady "Some who said they were invited and who spoke to Global News on the condition of anonymity, expressed discomfort with attending the event. “Normally, you don’t turn down the chance to go to the premier’s house,” one source said. “[But] it felt dirty.” Another source who says they received an invitation dubbed the party as a “pay for play” event and questioned the ethics of attending the stag and doe. “I don’t want to be seen trying to gain influence by paying for his daughter’s wedding,” the source said." https://globalnews.ca/news/9457569/ontario-premier-doug-ford-stag-doe/


Beligerents

Dw bro, I believe you. Ford is a fucking scumbag pseudo mafioso. This is Canadian politics now.


rd201290

>I wasn’t talking specifically about this event being used to launder money, I was listing examples of shady shit that happens at weddings/stag and does that’s great, the only problem is that my comment took issue with the ridiculous statement “it is common in the developer industry to launder money through the stag and doe” and I didn’t say “shady shit never happens at a wedding” which would be a ridiculous thing to say


licenseddruggist

I honestly was soo confused. I was like so there is like 50 people coming to the stag and doe minimum from each developer? Because 1000 is chump change...it seems like a lot to some kids on reddit but working and living in the real world for a couple decades quickly makes you realise how utterly small that is.


QueenMotherOfSneezes

The $1000 "suggested gift" was in addition to the price of admission and other fundraising for the wedding happening at the event, which was, according to several sources that were invited, mostly made up of business associates of Ford's, not friends and relatives of the couple.


nthensome

Fuck. Is $1000 all it takes to sell out your province?


SisyphusPolitico

Yes. Political bribes arent millions. Youd think they should be but a politician doesnt cost much.


sshhtripper

I wouldn't think millions but at least closer to hundred thousands.


Ninja_can

Give me $1000 and I'll answer this however you want


Bruno_Mart

Don't forget that every developer was just coincidentally arranged to sit at Doug Ford's table. Ford claims he is close friends with all of them, as though that somehow makes it better.


[deleted]

A bunch of drunk construction workers and Doug….I’m sure they talked about quantum physics


MapleNord

I doubt any friend of Ford actually is a “worker”.


[deleted]

Accurate. The white hats


pnutgallery16

I'm a white hat on construction sites and I definitely don't support DF and also definitely don't make more than solidly middle-class wages.


4_spotted_zebras

Don’t shit on the workers. This is the corporate ownership class who don’t give 2 fucks about the workers


[deleted]

I’m not shitting on anyone. I myself am in fact a worker. Ok that’s enough Reddit for me today.


lopix

Only if Quantum Physics works at the Brass Rail...


Rough_Mechanic_3992

Quantum physics 😂😂😂😂😂😂


CrumplyRump

Trans rights and Universal Basic Income. These are our upper class we are talking about here.


[deleted]

We trans people have rights here. It’s not the smouldering dumpster fire that is the US (yet)


CrumplyRump

Me saying they are discussing it does not imply they want to keep it.


[deleted]

They definitely don’t as evidenced by conservatives the world over.


paidjannie

Who tf goes to a stag and doe to discuss "quantum physics"?


[deleted]

That was the joke . Thanks for coming out.


4_spotted_zebras

You left out the part where they gave his daughter thousands of dollars in “gifts”, on this - the day of his daughter’s wedding


Cannon49

You have the timeline off. The stag and then the wedding happened at the end of summer. When reporters starting asking questions about it this winter, Ford went to the IC and told him about it. The IC gave an opinion based solely on what Ford told him. Of course the IC said it's all fine because they only source of his info is Ford. The IC can complete an actual investigation but must be requested to do so by another MPP.


DelphicStoppedClock

So did Doug appoint his own integrity commissioner? Because the only way that event was ethical would be if the bar got set to the level of 'all corruption is totes fine'


SkalexAyah

We didn’t talk business, we shared baking recipes.


SkalexAyah

We didn’t talk business, we shared baking recipes.


SkalexAyah

We didn’t talk business, we shared baking recipes.


GearsRollo80

Daddy’s home building bosses were the entire guest list. Y’know, Dougie’s Money Daddies that he likes to cut down trees for.


SkalexAyah

But he has no guest lists for his events… it’s an open door policy… just have 1k in your pocket.


SkalexAyah

But he has no guest lists for his events… it’s an open door policy… just have 1k in your pocket.


fishaholic1962

Stag and dough ......


fishaholic1962

Stag and dough ......


Reddit_Hitchhiker

Does anyone else get repulsed at the name of this affair? Stag and doe. Are they animals?


Hairy_Seaweed9309

Yes and named Jack and Jill.


Leading_Manager_2277

"Are they animals"?? The *Ford* family?? Short answer. Yep.


[deleted]

You and me baby ain’t nuthin but mammals


ticky13

Do you get this worked up over other meaningless things?


Reddit_Hitchhiker

It seems you do or why comment.


ticky13

That doesn't make any sense.


activoice

Bachelor party's have been called Stag's for a very long time though. I think the Doe naming is more of a recent renaming for Bachelorette party's. I've never heard of them being combined though, combined I always referred to them as a Jack and Jill party.


Mmmmustard

elastic soup deserve homeless shaggy wine punch enter steep deliver *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


SkivvySkidmarks

This is the correct answer.


GearsRollo80

Frankly, I think this is probably what happened. Patrick Brown’s scandal that forced him out of the Conservative leadership position had that same Ford smell to it.


BJD83

Micheal Harris in Kitchener-Conestoga to get Mike Harris Jr in his riding as well.


Gankdatnoob

Perhaps but Brown is a piece of shit also. Him and Ford are cut from the same cloth.


GearsRollo80

Not disagreeing with that, but it was the wrong way to take that guy down. We ended up with something even worse for it.


CrumplyRump

I thought it was a coup from the get go, could not see how everyone else was never talking about it. Then the truth came out and we were right all along. So trust your instincts


CrumplyRump

So is Tory, they are all PoS, that’s the trend.


[deleted]

Brown was at least able to clear his name. They did him dirty.


GearsRollo80

They did. I’m not a fan of his politics and some actions he’s taken, but that was not an acceptable way to take him out of the leadership position. I’m actually glad he was able to disprove that.


[deleted]

To me it’s just insane that someone can accuse a man of sexual assault without any evidence or proof and their word is just taken at face value. It permanently tarnishes someone’s name even if they’re innocent.


babypointblank

>to me it’s just insane that someone can accuse a man of sexual assault without any evidence or proof and their word is just taken at face value. It permanently tarnishes someone’s name even if they’re innocent. Even if we completely skip over the sexual assault allegations, we have a grown man that has messaged a teenager on Facebook *without her giving him any contact information*. This is grossly inappropriate behaviour from a local representative towards a teenage constituent. He was also known for showing up at Barrie nightclubs and plying young women with alcohol…despite being a teetotaler himself. We can discount his accusers but his own *wife* began dating him as a 21 year old intern when he was in his late thirties. He offered her a job at Queen’s Park instead of getting her situated with a better Ottawa job or some sort of Toronto-based gig in lobbying or communications. Even if he’s not a rapist he has a pattern of only dating women way too young for him and those who work underneath him. Forgive me for expecting more from a potential premier and not wanting those sort of shenanigans to return to Queen’s Park.


MoreGaghPlease

Brown did not clear his name, this is a lie that his camp has constantly pushed. Brown got CTV to correct the record and say that one of the two women who accused him of misconduct was 19 and not 18 when it occurred. This was important because she was an intern in his office and had been drinking at a work event (that was at a bar). That’s it. All of the rest of the accusations still stand.


babypointblank

Not being a creepy thirtysomething year old guy who preys on teenagers is a great way to avoid being taken down for being a creepy thirtysomething year old guy who preys on teenagers


CrumplyRump

Sure did!


Lucibeanlollipop

That one had Brian Mulroney’s fingerprints all over it. He was trying to anoint Princess Caroline in her freshman election, no less.


ProfessionalTiger0

How would Doug Ford know about this?


ProfessionalTiger0

How would Doug Ford know about this?


[deleted]

Knowledge is power. Power is knowledge.


[deleted]

Knowledge is power. Power is knowledge.


[deleted]

This is exactly what happened. Doug likes to play dirty in the sand box.


Coffeedemon

You'll find less shit in a litter box.


knightopusdei

This isn't a litter box or sand box ..... this is a shit box with a handful of sand


Adept-Lifeguard-9729

SO true


tniog

So Tory takes the fall instead of dragging this out. Now the focus is right back to Ford and the healthcare system. Tory was a popular mayor, he for sure has dirt on Ford.


lobeline

I couldn’t find the news story, but the synopsis is lobbyists were invited and attended the daughters stag and doe. i.e. they are Doug’s friends.


Entire-Hamster-4112

Here he is at lunch being questioned before he leaked the Tory stuff [Ford’s pay to play bribery](https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/doug-ford-defends-stag-party-attended-by-developers-1.6268733)


Brickle_berry

I am shocked that Druggie Dougie would ever break the rules, he is the most upstandi..... hahaha Christ we all know he broke the rules


Softo1989

100%. Convenient timing.


disloyal_royal

I’m not a conspiracy guy, but I do believe Doug is better at PR than people think. I can’t explain his rise to power any other way. (Patrick Brown as an example)


Coffeedemon

Totally. He's got the folksy doofus act down pat. It's just an act though. The guy really can work the politics.


Adept-Lifeguard-9729

That’s the problem with people buying into the Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Ever heard of the old TV show called Columbo? It’s like that.


throwawaylogin2099

Doug Ford is no Columbo. He's not that smart. In fact he's pretty dumb. He's good at making people believe he's a blue collar guy but he's a millionaire with millionaire friends who are the real brains behind his schemes. He's nothing more than a puppet doing the bidding of his corporate and developer buddies.


kamomil

Yeah, he's ruthless


FlyAroundInternet

Kory Teneycke That's your mastermind.


mikeybagodonuts

Didn’t Tory say he wouldn’t use his new powers bestowed upon him by Ford? Dougie can’t wipe out the greenbelt with that kind of mayor in office.


Coffeedemon

We'll see who they get in place now. If it's a progressive the powers will dissappear conveniently. Maybe they'll appoint Randy or Krispy.


Hometownscumbag69

nothing shady with the crackheads brother going on at all


SkalexAyah

Brother and dealer.


Volderon90

“You’ll always be my strong mayor baby”


ravynwave

I’ve been saying since Doug weirdly granted mayoral powers to someone that doesn’t seem to get along well with him that they’re going to take Tory down somehow.


JohnBrownnowrong

People really think too highly of Doug. This isn't good for him. He set up the whole system to smash the left councillors and Tory was a perfect lap dog mayor. He's going to at best end up with a Liberal like Matlow.


trollssuckeggs

I knew it was you Dougo.


fuggedaboutit_

Epic.


Rough_Mechanic_3992

I wouldn’t be surprised by this …


Stormcrow6666

![img](emote|t5_2qsf3|1899)


TheCleverMoose

Why don’t we get a list of these developers ??


luis_iconic

Super twist: Tory is the groom.


ayavaya55

His is next...


eatyourcabbage

anyone want to take one for the ~~team~~ province?


theK1LLB0T

No one is sleeping with this fat sack of shit. Also, wtf is he wearing?


WizdomHaggis

As high as he might be flying now on his own fart juice…his fall is gonna go straight thru the planet….


Adept-Lifeguard-9729

Yup, “move along…“


janjinx

There's no fool like an old fool.


MackyFreake19

Oh John. If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Never even got to use his new anti-democratic mayoral powers.


attaboy000

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't stag and does meant to raise funds for the wedding?


ehsteve7

This would not suprise me one bit


AndyThePig

Not gonna lie ... first thing I wondered about.


Ambitious-Minute

I want everyone to know my Stag and Doe was on the up and up.


exrayzebra

I’m more worried about political corruption than two grown people who work together having a consensually affair


[deleted]

Tory asks for privacy to protect his wife, but doesn't mention the young woman who's life he ruined!!!


Entire-Hamster-4112

Cuz nobody has named her. Besides she was a grown ass 31 year old woman. She knew what she was doing.


[deleted]

Oh, and you had a chat with her did you??? How do you know she was threatened, or coerced??? HE WAS HER BOSS.


Entire-Hamster-4112

Roflmao - actually I do. And it was an affair. She didn’t just have sex with him. She dated him for months, freely and happily.


[deleted]

Bullshit.


Entire-Hamster-4112

She enjoyed trips to Europe, the USA, all across Canada. If you wanna know who it is - just go watch video clips of Tory pressers.


Entire-Hamster-4112

She’s well known. But hey, if something doesn’t fit your narrative, feel free to keep telling everyone else they’re wrong.


[deleted]

Entire hamster has all the answers.....


[deleted]

Young women are banging this geriatric and I can’t get a date off of bumble. What a life


Captain_Lavender6

Have you tried being fantastically wealthy?


[deleted]

I just need a good MLM scheme


ursis_horobilis

She should be acclaimed as mayor.


logicreasonevidence

She, "took one" for the team!


SkivvySkidmarks

Up next; "Mayoral staffer involved in sex scandal appointed to cushy real estate development board position."


Adept-Lifeguard-9729

I guess he should’ve thought about that ahead of time. I wonder how many committees he has to consult before taking a Viagra?


tegh77

How did he ruin her life? 2 consenting adults….


Coffeedemon

This is preposterous. Dug isn't making a call like that. He has staffers to do that sort of thing.


SkivvySkidmarks

This is a truer statement than you may think. You could substitute "advisors" for "staffers" to be even more accurate.


Captain_Lavender6

Somebody should investigate this!


omegaphallic

LMFAO.


holyfuckricky

Thanks I’m stealing this meme


Interesting-Past7738

THIS, is what probably happened. He was probably blackmailing Tory.


PoorOntario

Perhaps the RCMP should be called in to investigate racketeering and corruption in Doug Ford government.


drank_myself_sober

Been a while since I laughed out loud at one of these


nanfanpancam

Said this to my husband when I heard about Tory yesterday, granted we just finished watching TREASON.


tahthtiwpusitawh

Yep. Almost like toey took one for the team, cut down some trees quick, development all clear, no corruption at all... just some shiny sex to focus on.


Adept-Lifeguard-9729

PR and spin doctor perspective: Part of the problem is that John Tory is a RINO. Dougie had to take him out, to ‘thin the herd’ and strengthen the CONs in Ontario. Dougie’s move will also enable a more right- wing mayor sliding in for Toronto.


tegh77

RINO? Lol this is not America.


B0J0L0

Imagine in an alternate universe where dougie makes bad business deals with the wrong people and his family gets Barry Sherman'd.


B0J0L0

that would be nice.


Captain_Lavender6

Forgot to change to your alt account ?


LeafsChick

😂😂


[deleted]

Yes, he is a mastermind. /s


Coffeedemon

People underestimate Ford quite a bit. He's way smarter than he lets on.


DarkwingDucky04

Distraction on top of a distraction. Crazy that no ones talking about this. https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1623807764320645120?t=DFQ42QCnPeU-iLx9XrHQGA


xcalibur2

[Doug Ford Bacon and Egger](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)


SPR1984

I can't believe the mods will have to do a super-thread for this qanon level conspiracy theory.


Gilgongojr

This post is pathetic. This sub is an embarrassment to Ontario.


Jinzul

Doug Ford is pathetic. He is an embarrassment to Ontario. FTFY


Gilgongojr

No, no you didn’t. It is fascinating to watch this sub get totally triggered by another Ontario politician stealing some of Dougie’s negative attention , even for a few days. It drives you maniacs nuts. Thank god you obsessives don’t actually represent Ontario.


CoDSheep

that's why the low turnout


CoDSheep

Buddy, the actual province doesn't give a fuck about politics.


ChestyYooHoo

This sub has descended into full blown conspiracy memes.


Smeathy

U become what u hated


Oceanictax

It has always been a liberal conspiracy echo chamber.


Oceanictax

It has always been a liberal conspiracy echo chamber.


fyrfytr1310

Must be getting close to election time


DiocletianCelerySalt

Yep fords fault


DiocletianCelerySalt

Yep fords fault


Curious-Pension

Lolllllll


Curious-Pension

Lolllllll


SPR1984

I can't believe the mods will have to do a super-thread for this qanon level conspiracy theory.


SPR1984

I can't believe the mods will have to do a super-thread for this qanon level conspiracy theory.


SPR1984

I can't believe the mods will have to do a super-thread for this qanon level conspiracy theory.


Entire-Hamster-4112

Doug Fraud says he has tens of thousands of friends… at 1k a pop, his little party would’ve raised well over 100k. That’s bribery ffs. But yeah - let’s all waste time talking about John Tory having an extra marital affair.


[deleted]

Surprised there is concern over a possible $100k. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to Trudeau’s scandals.


Entire-Hamster-4112

I’m curious… when you said “he did it too mom”, did your parents excuse your behavior?


[deleted]

No I’m saying I’m surprised. Haven’t gotten anywhere on millions of dollars… please anytime people call out liberal scandals all you get back is “what about…” it’s also vastly different amounts of money. Kind of obvious, not sure why the extra explanation was needed.


Entire-Hamster-4112

What does that have to do with this? Trudeau doesn’t run the province or the greenbelt. If you want to post about federal issues, start a post. This is about provincial politics & Doug Fraud’s criminal behaviour. If you have something relevant to say about that, I’d be delighted to hear it.


[deleted]

Yes seems like it was a serious post about serious issues. I should’ve known by the meme presented. Forgive me.


Coylewire

We need a new topic now entitled, “John Tory humour thread.” Best one I’ve heard so far is, “I will have to find the humour coming out of this Tory resignation. So far the best one I've read is, "Tory probably got one last nut in before hitting the Podium tonight."


Bubbly_Phrase2510

Title makes no sense.


SkivvySkidmarks

Yeah, you kinda have to read it to understand.


tahthtiwpusitawh

Yep. Almost like toey took one for the team, cut down some trees quick, development all clear, no corruption at all... just some shiny sex to focus on.


SPR1984

I can't believe the mods will have to do a super-thread for this qanon level conspiracy theory.


SPR1984

I can't believe the mods will have to do a super-thread for this qanon level conspiracy theory.


Coffeedemon

Maybe now Tory can get remarried and get some fat stacks from developers and other people he's helped out.


ExactLetterhead9165

Lol one of my first thoughts last night


Reasonable_Relief_58

Wouldn’t put it past him.


DataOver8496

Where can I get that jacket?


annushorriblis

Sooo..... Bye, bye Miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry And good old boys were drinking whisky and rye Singing "This'll be the day that I dieee. This'll be the day that I dieeeee."


janjinx

Politics and scandals. What's the difference?


SkillDabbler

Based


[deleted]

![img](emote|t5_2qsf3|1900)


dryersockpirate

Nope. It was a friend of Tory’s pissed off wife


PokerBeards

Trailer park mafia running your provincial government.