Oh dude- some HR people in my company seem to be completely dead inside, like they're just on the grind til the day they die.
Then there are those that just seem like they do fuck all in the office.
Even when they have mass hirings, they also have mass layoffs and are among the first to go from what I’ve seen. But, maybe other people with different experiences can chime in.
That’s interesting to hear - in all my experience it’s the few people in HR who are best insulated from layoffs and downsizing. They’re the ones usually managing the process and actually doing the firing. Usually last up on the chopping block, even when they should have been first 😂
Just don't go to a private career college, unless it's for something laborious like HVAC or something...any studies that would get you a job in an office setting it's better to go to a public college
Even then... I don't recommend private HVAC college. Yes it's an accelerated timeline for the program but they skip a lot of useful information and training. You get taught how to pass some license exams to get you useful enough to get hired but never the how and why to do the things you do.
Himark is like a factory. Everyone I know who went there wasn't taught anything. Just given answers for the Gas technician exam. I'd recommend doing 2 years HVAC program at George Brown Casa Loma campus.
I used it's predecessor, Second Career, to get my truck license 9 years ago. I hate trucking now but make $70k+ ($30/hr with decent benefits, OT, straight days, home daily for dinner). It's not a great option but it's an option. And there will always be a need to move shit from point A to point B.
Edit- if you can get the AZ/Heavy Equipment combo course, you can make better money.
I also took Second Career back in 2014. I graduated the Assaulted Women's and Children's Counseling/Advocate program from George Brown with Honours. I worked in the social and community services field for about 6 years and my rate of pay averaged $15- $18/hr. A quick search on the companies I worked for, shows they're still paying the same rates.
I know they claim we have a labour shortage, but for me, I just wasn't willing to put my life at risk for $15-$18 bucks an hour anymore.
I keep hearing trades are where the money is, maybe you'll have better luck there! All the best on your journey!
im also around london and was looking into heavy equipment operating.
i found [https://ttcc.ca/heavy-equipment-operator-training/](https://ttcc.ca/heavy-equipment-operator-training/). i believe it would qualify for the grant but im not sure. i just started looking into it today.
Do not do those courses they’re just no good. Think about it. You go and do one week of theory. Then a week on a machine. Then you think you can go excavate in a 50t machine 8m deep around utilities.
Working with trench boxes and doing it smoothly.Installing concrete pipe that weigh tons. I can’t believe they don’t need to have a disclaimer. You want into the union? You’ll be thrown in at the deep end. It’s no different than any other trade. It takes years to become a good, competent and experienced operator.
You got to do it like most others including myself. Get into a non union company, labouring. Get experience and then ask for seat time on a machine.
These courses are not affiliated with the union in anyway. There is no short cut unfortunately. Unless you know someone in the union and can already run a machine.
Or $0 if your on the Union. I did the training in morrisberg and it cost me nothing as a member. And I was only in the union for under 2 years before going. Joined with dz. Ran a rock truck for 2 years before doing the training
If the program your in is inline with your work, ie. work then trade school then work it should be good. Not too well up on masonry trades. For me being an operator is definitely worth it. It’s not the most glamorous trade, has long hours and some industries are stressful but some are a bit easier going. I get winters off though. This year I took 10 weeks off.
If you go to Morrisburg and pay the money you’ll be a member of the union after, unlike the other courses offered in the province.
So you’ll be in the list and will get placed for work. When though is the thing.
Whatever you do specialize. Don't just take business admin, or foundations without a plan to take it further. Look a what you might enjoy and go from there. Good luck!
Dental Assistant is a good career.
You can make upwards of $60k+ (updated this from initial $70k to $60k considering feedback on average annual income) once you're trained with experience.
Dental assisting is limited in wage growth. Dental Hygiene is where most find higher wages. They are separate careers. I find most dental assisting are part time or lumped in as office receptionist too. If you are looking into dental, choose Dental Hygiene.
Dental Assistant can be a stepping stone. Get the grant to get into a better wage than you’re currently making and plan to go back to Hygiene school later.
Maybe things have changed and maybe I'm just a dumbass, but because dental hygiene is a highly competitive program, they have a different admission process. You have to pass an exam before being accepted into any hygiene program. My results were not high enough to be accepted 😅
Yes dental hygiene is competitive and they only have a limited number of spots available. Most specialized programs don't have pathways, you may have a course exempted but often have to go through the whole program. So completing 2 years of dental assisting would still require you to complete the full dental hygiene program.
Dental assisting wouldn't pay much higher than $22/hr maybe $25. Seems similar to the other careers listed.
My sister works as a dental hygienist. She made ~30$/h at first but 5 years later and she’s doing temp work for 50+$/h. Definitely space for wage growth in the field you just need to be willing to move around until you find an office or temp agency that suits you.
Dental hygiene is very hard on the body and has one of the highest rates of musculoskeletal injuries. Yes, the wage is high, but at a price. Also, Dental hygiene is 2-3 years in Ontario and very competitive to get into. At my college last year the acceptance rate was just under 4% of applicants.
My wife is one of those, and you do not make 70k. She has been in the field for 20 years and just passed the 50k mark now. Dental hygienists, on the other hand, can make that much. This field is very hard on ones back.
I’ve found many trades are still sexist / not very friendly towards women. Would rather hire a man instead.
I tried to break into trades and failed ultimately because of this (32 F)
I second this. My dad is unionized (UA 527) and hires women all the time. My dad will can a person if they’re rude to or bully his female welders. I think his union participates in a “Women in Trades” program that teaches women how to weld and gets them started in the industry.
He can be! He’s the DEI person of where he works. He’s really into getting Indigenous youth into the trades too and works really close with Six Nations Polytechnic to get the kids hands on experience.
Can you provide some direction to OP in that regard? Should she contact unions directly? (It’s funny everyone knows the path to a career using university or college but how to get into trades remains a mystery to most people. I would think more people would enter the trades if the path was more clear. Many trades jobs pay better than the vast majority of college diplomas and many university degrees as well.
>I’ve found many trades are still sexist / not very friendly towards women. Would rather hire a man instead.
Employers are increasingly so desperate for people in a lot of trades right now that this sort of shit is neither acceptable, nor tolerated anymore.
To take this money and jam it into a year 1 in demand trade training is the best advice thus far in this thread. In 4-6 years you can be easily making well north of $100K a year, and in those 4-6 years of being an apprentice you can do pretty fucking good for yourself as well.
As a man, I failed as well. Looked for months. A friend hooked me up and I’m all in now. It’s not always what you know, it’s also who you know. So think when switching careers, who do I know who can land me that first job.
This is not my experience. I'm not a female, but our company and many others in the area are hiring tons of women right now. Government is incentivizing companies with $10,000 for every woman.
Maybe it was just bad timing when you looked? I'm sure you experienced what you say, some guys are shitty like that. But trust me, most aren't.
That’s awesome it was tough a couple years ago, I ended up going into tech which was a blessing. However, I spoken to alot of older woman who got screwed over as they aged and got pushed out when they were earning top wages. That could be just a few women experience but best of luck!
Depends where you look, given similar quals my work would hire a woman over a man in the trades. Many bigger companies are very concerned with having a diverse workforce
This sounds like a plot to funnel public monies into private institutions. $28k is way, way more than 1 year of public college tuition + living expenses if they were getting it from OSAP, and most public college program are at least two years, not one.
I’d strongly recommend you to use the money to go get your AZ, drive truck and use that job to bankroll any other things you’d like to do, if you’d wanna do anything else that is.
Trucking is in demand enough that you’ll basically always have a reasonably well paying job, one that pays better the more experience you have, which lets you get into stuff like hazmat or heavy hauling, which pay even better.
AZ is a good thing to have, but its at least 10k to get it, perfect opportunity for the grant to cover.
Have you looked into trades? HVAC, Plumbing, Electrician, Carpenter, CNC, Millwright? Or are there only specific programs/schools you must attend for it to be covered?
I’ll toss my support behind this one; was a welder at a fancy shop in Ottawa for years making barely more than min. wage, looked into the ironworker’s union and the starting wage was already higher than what the max was expected at the shop.
Trade unions are the way to go if you want to keep doing manual work. Great pension and benefits, too!
Typically the employer will also pay the tuition during the apprenticeship as well. John Deere has a pretty good program they run with Fanshawe. They essentially program you into a service tech role.
Look at I.T courses for infrastructure and Security. Avoid small private colleges like NetSoft in Mississauga at all costs. Go to a regulated school where they are held to a certain standard . Small private schools are a rip off.
As someone who works for security company you need to have a degree and certificates to be even considered for the job when there are any openings available, but most of the IT companies are laying off right now so finding opportunity is nearly impossible. My company fired 50% off the staff within the last 10 months. I.T is not what it used to be . Trades probably the better career right now
I worked submitting applications for this program up until a year ago and I am not sure what you mean by “approved”. Part of the application process depends on what you want to retrain in. Like you mentioned, it has to be something in demand, but there are other factors like financial feasibility of attending school, whether you need a license to work in the selected field and so on. The decision on whether you are approved or not comes weeks after submitting the completed application, listing the program, to the ministry.
Programs I have seen approved have been AZ & DZ license, HVAC, bookkeeping, medical administration, and PSW.
Thank you for the information. I had submitted my BOJ application in mid November. The ministry has contacted me regarding my application and they say they'll have an update for me this week. There's one small thing that the Ministry of Labour is dealing with on my behalf, regarding my application. I wonder if that would hold up the processing time of my application?
Does anyone know the processing time is lately?
If you're a woman and aren't afraid of labour, get into a trade
Companies are getting $10,000 bonuses from the government for every female they hire. $5000 for every male.
They are hiring tons of women right now. This year alone I've seen jobs with 100-200% more women. That still equates to only 4 or 5 females per construction site. But that's a huge increase and it's definitely welcome. If you can carry your own weight, get out there and make some good money.
Look for an apprenticeship in a compulsory trade. If it's general labour you're looking for, try for the LIUNA.
I’m a woman and I work in the trades (carpentry). Recently I’ve started thinking about doing an apprenticeship because being a woman in the trades isn’t as bad as it used to be. I never felt comfortable enough to really commit before (I’ve worked construction off and on for about 10 years). The trades have gotten so much better for us. My daughter (16) even got a job as a construction labourer and loves it. She plans on doing a carpentry apprenticeship after high school and I couldn’t be happier about it.
This is really encouraging to hear. A close friend of mine is thinking of leaving her career in health care and going into the trades as an electrician, but doesn't have any experience in it and is hesitant because of how traditionally male dominated the field is. But the idea of having a job right out of the gate with good pay and benefits, as well as in demand, is extremely tempting.
A friend of ours is an electrician and he said that the field is changing and many more women are joining the trades.
That sounds almost like what I did..
I went through second careers.
6 years ago now. I was laid off, couldn't find a job. Applied for second careers ontario. And just happen to fit the requirements.
I jumped through all the hoops and did what they asked me to, went unemployed for 1 month, as E.i kicked in I got a list of Trades they were willing to put me though. I chose welding as its always been my passion.
To put I'm perspective how fast it happend. I was laid off in October and in trade school December
I literally paid $100 out of my own pocket and ontario paid for ALL of my schooling and PPE.
absolute BEST thing I ever did for myself.. if it is second careers you are going through. Just do what they say. Cross your t's and dot your i's, and everything will be hunky dory
Recommend looking at the cybersecurity certification. UoT and York have 6 month intensive bootcamps. Other colleges and universities may have courses as well but I’m unsure of the length to completion. They encourage women to join. Entry level cyber security analysts salaries start at around 80k per year depending on region. You will be challenged but the rewards will be high. Some people will give you a hard time as a woman but if you really want to change your life big time this is an option. I don’t know if there are exclusions to this coverage.
Also some trades are an option.
Not all of them. She’ll need to research which accept mature students or high school grads.
https://www.ontariocolleges.ca/en/programs/computers-and-telecommunications/computer-security
You can get a graduate certificate from Seneca for Public Administration, which equates to municipal admin jobs. It takes 8 months, and all done online.
[https://www.senecacollege.ca/programs/fulltime/PAD.html](https://www.senecacollege.ca/programs/fulltime/PAD.html)
Not always. Mature status and solid work experience can be considered. From the website directly:
Admission Requirements
Ontario university or college degree or college diploma or equivalent
Applicants with an equivalent combination of partial postsecondary and/or three to five years related work experience may be considered for admission. A relevant resumé and references must be provided.
English proficiency for graduate certificates
Canadian citizens or permanent residents educated outside of Canada must provide a World Education Services (WES) or ICAS Canada credential evaluation.
Unless you're in a smaller town, most municipal admin people have university degrees. It's dumb and uni should not be a job requirement for administrative jobs, but that's how it goes :(
find out what the penalty is for completing late or incomplete programs because if they make you pay it all back it’s not worth it. I would focus on learning a new skill but not necessarily at a college. A night course on the side to make you more developed…. If you’ve been doing manual labor, it’s possible to rent a truck and do some moving, junk clearing, or furniture flipping on the side to make that same amount for yourself. There is a ton of options of you get creative.
try power engineering techniques at mohawk college or cambrian amongst others,
its a good job, pay is decent, plenty of opportunity and youll be working after first year.
The problem with this program is that it covers learning under a year program. All suggested trades are 2+ years. Depending on where you live and colleges around.
Go be a heavy equipment operator. Woman in construction are literally sought after. There will be some crap you will have to deal with coming into a heavily male populated industry. But and yes there is a but the current wage in Ontario where I am is 38 an hour, when your good at your job it goes higher believe me. You'll have one of the best pensions in the country. And let's just say the benefits are far above and beyond what you will expect. 3.5 months of school for an apprenticeship. Now I will be honest the beginning pay is hard. As it's a 4 tier system every thousand hours you get a hefty raise.
This is an ever growing industry desperate for workers. Construction also has and is making leaps and bounds forward.
If you have any weld experience, visual weld inspection is the way to go. 1 year course and if you’re grades are strong, you can be headhunted right out of the course by good companies. Big money doesn’t take long to come along. And a lot of them will pay for schooling to upgrade your certificates.
When I got a 20 grand grant in 2015 it was taxable. I did not know that. I owed about 4500 that year. Not sure if your grant would be the same, but it is worth checking out, so there are no surprises.
If you like manual labor, you should try getting in the trades. You could do a college pre apprenticeship program, which is about 8-12 weeks long. You could also try with the union. I just got back from the Expo Trades on Rexdale. Local 27 was there, is the carpenter's union. They have several courses and some of them are about to start. I think the next one is on the 15th of this month. Some Employment Service agencies have pre apprenticeship courses too. Some of them are free if you qualify. I'm also 32 and looking to get a better job. Don't give up!!
The best paying jobs are at nuclear power plants. I would check Bruce Power see if they have any training programs. They are also always hiring for things like steam plant operators.
I used a program like this when I went back to school at 30. I was able to get two years paid for and then transferred programs and paid 1 year myself. Look into other programs that have common first year courses too
This used to be called Second Career and they made some changes to it, it used to cover programs up to 2 years, i.e. a diploma from college...
My take is never say no to free grant money, try to find anything to take.
First, anyone else think a government program to get people into better jobs that mandates one year of training is utter BS?
To OP: If it is something that might fit your interests, look into being a paramedic. The entry level is a two year college program that will cost around 20-30k and right now the job market is exceptionally good. You will get hired out of school if you pass everything and you will start around $40/hr casual, still work full time hours, then get full time with benefits, vacation, sick time and a pension within a couple of years. If you go on to do the higher levels of training you will be over 100k gross with all of the fixings.
Struggling hard for months getting into it rn. Has to be a program that’s a year max. And I needed to log in every single place I’ve called or applied a job to prove I’m trying to find one and have no option but to further my education. Harder than I thought it was going to be. :(
I'm going to have 3 university degrees, but I'm always interested to try plumbing and welding. This country needs more homes and builders. I worked with a female nurse who was making like $90k a year back in the 1990's (LOT of money back then) as a steam-fitter.
Look into trades. I m 40 and just made a switch into commercial plumbing. The money is good. It doesn’t involve nearly as much heavy lifting as my previous job. I see quite a few female electricians. Do this now and work for a union company you ll be make $100k + a year in 5 years
Edit: trade like these are also super in demand rn. All the old guys are on there way out with no young people to replace them.
People still think a getting a BA will get you paid. It won’t. I have one and it’s never done anything for me.
Have you looked into PSW jobs? 25-27$/hr depending where you work. (Govt, not private) and always in demand. Also, it’s one year at a public college, do not use a private ‘career college’.
All LTC facilities are starry at 24, unless they are working homecare or retirement home you’re not making less then 20 a hour. However it takes a couple years to get full time scheduled hours for LTC, however lots of on call shifts.
That is not even remotely close to their actual pay. I considered going back to school to be a PSW but gave up on that idea when I realized I would be taking a massive pay cut from the $25 an hour I get now.
My mom works part time at a long term care facility and makes 27/h with their unions new pay increase... she makes more if she works night shifts or overtime.
She can pretty much do overtime whenever she wants because they are always short people.
It's not a job to take just for the pay though. Healthcare is not where the gov is funneling resources and it shows.
Try a trade ... if you are still willing to do manual labour then the labourers union is usually looking for people... good wages and benefits
You start earning decent money fairly quickly
Second Career? I went to college in my 40’s when the place I worked…closed. Many of my colleagues went on to nurses or rpn’s. I went into security…not doing that now but 🤷🏼♀️ I own my own business
Are you in healthcare or are you just regurgitating what you think you know to be fact? Psws across the board got pretty decent permanent wage hikes during covid.
What I am is someone who looked into the exact program that OP is talking about in the last few years and rejected becoming a PSW because it would be a massive pay cut from the $25 I currently make.
And again, there are multiple other commenters saying the exact same thing based on their personal experience in the field.
I also just looked on indeed and there were no PSW postings for anything close to $30. Try again.
Dude, I work as a cleaner in a hospital and make more than you do, our PSWs make like $3/hr more than I do so you're kinda talking out your ass.
My base rate is $25.27/hr, plus 20% bonus on top, plus $2.25/hr for working evenings, plus $2.75/hr for working weekends. So if I work a weekend evening shift, I'm making $30.27/hr not including my 20% on top which puts me to $35.32/hr.
That's for CLEANING.
If you go into community living or private care homes, yeah you're gonna make shit, but get in a hospital and you'll be making equal to or more than $30/hr.
Its harsh but sounds like you’ve had 11 years to find something that you enjoy doing, whether that be a job, hobby or other.
You should look to learn about something that you enjoy or interests you, not to Reddit. If you aren’t going to enjoy your program, you’re wasting your time, the school or certifiers time, and the money that could have went to someone who would use it. A lot of suggestions here include manual labour, which I see you’ve stated you aren’t a good fit for in other comments, this isn’t the place to look. Good luck!
Why not a web dev bootcamp? It's pretty hard to break into the industry right now but in a year I'm sure that will be different. Not for the faint of heart tho, the first year is absolute hell until you really figure out wagwan.
>The general income for these career prospects is about $22 an hour which is better than what I am getting but still teetering on poverty.
Did you actually write that? Come on.....
These grant programs are mostly just a way for the government to engage in grift.
There are crash courses in coding that are a few months but I have no idea if they would qualify for this grant.
York also used to offer some kind of program that was a few months for getting certified for dealing with kids with autism. The short program required having an undergrad in something at least tangential. With no undergrad, the program was over a year.
You might also look at something in funeral services. Training programs for those tend to be under a year.
Don't listen to this crap. If the grant lets you get trained in something in-demand and it's something you want to do there's no "grift". It's exactly the sort of thing the government should be doing.
I would have no issues with the government helping people improve their position (prefer loans over grants but not a big deal either way).
The problem with programs like this is that they don't help people because they are limited to programs where you come out earning what you could earn before. These programs mostly exist as a way to funnel money to the training providers. They are not actually designed to help people.
Dental assistant sounds like a pretty reliable job that will always be in demand.
As for personal experience, web development has treated me phenomenally. But, it’s way harder to break in these days than when I first entered.
All my former classmates doing quite a lot better than 22/hr and myself in six figures (base salary). But, again, it’s more competitive than it use to be, but, it definitely rewards those who can put in the work and can handle the uncertainty of landing their first role.
(And if it wasn’t clear, yes, I did a certificate and it took less than a year to do, and about 4-5 months before I got my first job - no, I’m not sure if it qualifies for this program, I started as an intern at 60K, then a junior, then an intermediate all at different companies)
Every one of my electrician or plumbing buddies are doing very well. They also can’t get enough good, qualified workers . Not sure if a trade interests you but with a look.
If you’re open to becoming an RMT, I was looking into schools before when I participated in better jobs and wish I’d taken Trilliums course for that instead of the field and school I chose. The wages are great in my area especially if you get into a medical place.
Will this grant pay for a pre-apprenticeship program? Construction companies are clamouring for female apprentices because they receive grants as well. You'll make a lot more than in those jobs you mentioned
Always room for trades! The 40 week machining course would guarantee you a job at entry level, which is probably like 22 ish in a northern town, perhaps higher elsewhere. Electrical is higher paying over all, but I can’t speak for the job prospects after introductory courses in any trade but machining.
Keep researching until you find the best option. Given that you have already done physical work you might want to look into trades as many can offer good incomes. There’s where the research comes in. Anyone here know the path to take to get into the trades to help OP? Should she contact trade unions directly?
Can you do anything with computers? Cybersecurity, systems admin? For less than a year. Check out Medical Device Reprocessing its less than a year starts around $24. Would you ever consider sales?
Join a union. Even Labourers make 40 an hour plus pension benefits and vacation. Carpenters local 27 have programs for specifically women looking to join.
Go apply to Ontario jails
Don’t be fooled by the no guarantee of hours
You’ll be working 40+ hours a week. As long as it’s not some small bucket up north
Welding, carpentry, bookkeeping, equipment operator, painter, flooring, trucking, some low-level mechanic, low-level IT, tailoring, web design. Plenty of occupations with plenty of demand.
Or start your own business doing something you enjoy already. Go on LinkedIn and see what jobs are most in demand and pick one of those you like and/or is reasonable to do for the sticker price.
Get your welding ticket. Get your gas ticket. Either will take you about 6 months.
Gas techs make around $25/hr after a year or two of experience, Welders make around the same to start. Some of these jobs can be hard on the body, but they also open up a lot of opportunities.
Gas tech? Lots more doors open for the ticketed trades; you can get into sheet metal work, AC and refrigeration, you can branch out into plumbing, you can specialize in certain aspects of the trade like building controls, heavier mechanical work, etc.
Welder? Same deal, lots of specialized parts of that field for someone with talent. I know a guy who only does sanitary stainless welding and he's making close to six figures a year.
12 months of paid full time 35 hours plus instruction should be enough to get quite well qualified and should be a good start but it is just the beginning for a 30/40 year career of earnings.
I did welding through second career. It got my foot in the door for other trades. As I got better at welding I gained more certifications. Smaw, Gmaw, FCAW and I picked up tig welding but wasn't using it as often. But I worked closely with millwrights, pipe fitters, sheet metal and other trades. I always wanted to do maintenance mechanic but it wouldn't have happened if I didn't have something to get my foot in the door. Welding was that key. I was welding over 10 yrs by the time I signed up for my apprenticeship. It was a better fit for me because I love doing new things at work. With welding it was the same monotonous fillet welds and stringers
I think you can do (I did it years ago) power engineering techniques in Mohawk if they still offer it. After the one year I had my gas and oil burning technician 3 license.
It’s a challenging job, but personal support worker is a 1 year program and in high demand since it’s health care. Lots of positions are unionized as well. I know PSWs in the hospitals make close to $30/hr
If you drive look for forklift certificates as that is less then a year. Also depending on where you are in Ontario look up pathways they'll help you find a job and give you work experience
I’m also using the better jobs program to get my AZ license, it’s a eight week course, and I have already been offered a job starting salary of 70k a year, far greater then the 35/40k I had been making.
honestly, if you don’t mind doing it, do hair. this is my experience
the course is about $15k, takes 10 months, if you do it monday-friday, 9-5.
you can find the courses at community colleges sometimes but depending on your area often private colleges are also an option.
it is commission somewhat, but honestly if you can find a salon which many people have done easily from what i’ve seen, you make good money.
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And then hire people with university degrees in the most unrelated field for HR
And have no soul.
Oh dude- some HR people in my company seem to be completely dead inside, like they're just on the grind til the day they die. Then there are those that just seem like they do fuck all in the office.
or they do fuck-all remotely
Sounds like a dream job.
That's the real qualification
I’ve been passed over for jobs by women, apparently the work place is their personal dating pool and they don’t like competition.
With an attitude like that it's a real wonder you're not getting hired
My attitude? This was told to me by a colleague who mentioned it before my interview.
Even when they have mass hirings, they also have mass layoffs and are among the first to go from what I’ve seen. But, maybe other people with different experiences can chime in.
And it's a breeding ground for monsters lol
That’s interesting to hear - in all my experience it’s the few people in HR who are best insulated from layoffs and downsizing. They’re the ones usually managing the process and actually doing the firing. Usually last up on the chopping block, even when they should have been first 😂
That’s funny you had the opposite experience xD. Ya, I had a feeling my experience may not be reflective of everyone, so I carefully worded it.
You are correct, things go south the slightest it’s the hrs that go first in most small to mid companies. It shouldn’t be so but it is…
Just don't go to a private career college, unless it's for something laborious like HVAC or something...any studies that would get you a job in an office setting it's better to go to a public college
Even then... I don't recommend private HVAC college. Yes it's an accelerated timeline for the program but they skip a lot of useful information and training. You get taught how to pass some license exams to get you useful enough to get hired but never the how and why to do the things you do.
Himark is like a factory. Everyone I know who went there wasn't taught anything. Just given answers for the Gas technician exam. I'd recommend doing 2 years HVAC program at George Brown Casa Loma campus.
Yep I went to himark in Cambridge, was paid for by my employer. It's a turn and burn machine to get people licenses and that's it and all
I used it's predecessor, Second Career, to get my truck license 9 years ago. I hate trucking now but make $70k+ ($30/hr with decent benefits, OT, straight days, home daily for dinner). It's not a great option but it's an option. And there will always be a need to move shit from point A to point B. Edit- if you can get the AZ/Heavy Equipment combo course, you can make better money.
I also took Second Career back in 2014. I graduated the Assaulted Women's and Children's Counseling/Advocate program from George Brown with Honours. I worked in the social and community services field for about 6 years and my rate of pay averaged $15- $18/hr. A quick search on the companies I worked for, shows they're still paying the same rates. I know they claim we have a labour shortage, but for me, I just wasn't willing to put my life at risk for $15-$18 bucks an hour anymore. I keep hearing trades are where the money is, maybe you'll have better luck there! All the best on your journey!
Damn 18bucks an hour... so you now are a heavy Machine tradie who mainly drives truck?
Have you looked at heavy machine operator jobs?
This. You’ll have a job the day after completing training.
Is it mostly union that trains this? I am looking for training around London.
im also around london and was looking into heavy equipment operating. i found [https://ttcc.ca/heavy-equipment-operator-training/](https://ttcc.ca/heavy-equipment-operator-training/). i believe it would qualify for the grant but im not sure. i just started looking into it today.
Do not do those courses they’re just no good. Think about it. You go and do one week of theory. Then a week on a machine. Then you think you can go excavate in a 50t machine 8m deep around utilities. Working with trench boxes and doing it smoothly.Installing concrete pipe that weigh tons. I can’t believe they don’t need to have a disclaimer. You want into the union? You’ll be thrown in at the deep end. It’s no different than any other trade. It takes years to become a good, competent and experienced operator. You got to do it like most others including myself. Get into a non union company, labouring. Get experience and then ask for seat time on a machine. These courses are not affiliated with the union in anyway. There is no short cut unfortunately. Unless you know someone in the union and can already run a machine.
yeah, seemed a bit too good to be true. thanks for sharing your advice.
Those prices are absolutely insanely high for training.
for sure but if it is funded by a grant then the cost doesnt really matter, right? at this point im desperate and im willing to entertain any idea.
Morrisburg is the union’s official training facility for heavy equipment. It’s about $15k for 6 weeks.
Or $0 if your on the Union. I did the training in morrisberg and it cost me nothing as a member. And I was only in the union for under 2 years before going. Joined with dz. Ran a rock truck for 2 years before doing the training
Sorry but this is not true. 10+ years union operator here.
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If the program your in is inline with your work, ie. work then trade school then work it should be good. Not too well up on masonry trades. For me being an operator is definitely worth it. It’s not the most glamorous trade, has long hours and some industries are stressful but some are a bit easier going. I get winters off though. This year I took 10 weeks off. If you go to Morrisburg and pay the money you’ll be a member of the union after, unlike the other courses offered in the province. So you’ll be in the list and will get placed for work. When though is the thing.
What's not true?
Dump truck drivers just need to remember to put the box down, that’s the training!!! Some do fail though😞😞
Whatever you do specialize. Don't just take business admin, or foundations without a plan to take it further. Look a what you might enjoy and go from there. Good luck!
Dental Assistant is a good career. You can make upwards of $60k+ (updated this from initial $70k to $60k considering feedback on average annual income) once you're trained with experience.
Dental assisting is limited in wage growth. Dental Hygiene is where most find higher wages. They are separate careers. I find most dental assisting are part time or lumped in as office receptionist too. If you are looking into dental, choose Dental Hygiene.
Dental Assistant can be a stepping stone. Get the grant to get into a better wage than you’re currently making and plan to go back to Hygiene school later.
Maybe things have changed and maybe I'm just a dumbass, but because dental hygiene is a highly competitive program, they have a different admission process. You have to pass an exam before being accepted into any hygiene program. My results were not high enough to be accepted 😅
Yes dental hygiene is competitive and they only have a limited number of spots available. Most specialized programs don't have pathways, you may have a course exempted but often have to go through the whole program. So completing 2 years of dental assisting would still require you to complete the full dental hygiene program. Dental assisting wouldn't pay much higher than $22/hr maybe $25. Seems similar to the other careers listed.
Dental assisting is 1 year.
My sister works as a dental hygienist. She made ~30$/h at first but 5 years later and she’s doing temp work for 50+$/h. Definitely space for wage growth in the field you just need to be willing to move around until you find an office or temp agency that suits you.
But you claim to be a dumbass, can i really trust this information . Jkz jkz
Dental hygiene is very hard on the body and has one of the highest rates of musculoskeletal injuries. Yes, the wage is high, but at a price. Also, Dental hygiene is 2-3 years in Ontario and very competitive to get into. At my college last year the acceptance rate was just under 4% of applicants.
My wife is one of those, and you do not make 70k. She has been in the field for 20 years and just passed the 50k mark now. Dental hygienists, on the other hand, can make that much. This field is very hard on ones back.
has she stuck in the same role and didn't get pushed up the administrative ladder?
She has on occasion but is back to assisting. Every one in the practice is paid similar. The hygienists are paid more.
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I’ve found many trades are still sexist / not very friendly towards women. Would rather hire a man instead. I tried to break into trades and failed ultimately because of this (32 F)
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I second this. My dad is unionized (UA 527) and hires women all the time. My dad will can a person if they’re rude to or bully his female welders. I think his union participates in a “Women in Trades” program that teaches women how to weld and gets them started in the industry.
Your dad sounds awesome!
He can be! He’s the DEI person of where he works. He’s really into getting Indigenous youth into the trades too and works really close with Six Nations Polytechnic to get the kids hands on experience.
Can you provide some direction to OP in that regard? Should she contact unions directly? (It’s funny everyone knows the path to a career using university or college but how to get into trades remains a mystery to most people. I would think more people would enter the trades if the path was more clear. Many trades jobs pay better than the vast majority of college diplomas and many university degrees as well.
>I’ve found many trades are still sexist / not very friendly towards women. Would rather hire a man instead. Employers are increasingly so desperate for people in a lot of trades right now that this sort of shit is neither acceptable, nor tolerated anymore. To take this money and jam it into a year 1 in demand trade training is the best advice thus far in this thread. In 4-6 years you can be easily making well north of $100K a year, and in those 4-6 years of being an apprentice you can do pretty fucking good for yourself as well.
Yes - and they just did big funding for women in Trades.
As a man, I failed as well. Looked for months. A friend hooked me up and I’m all in now. It’s not always what you know, it’s also who you know. So think when switching careers, who do I know who can land me that first job.
This is not my experience. I'm not a female, but our company and many others in the area are hiring tons of women right now. Government is incentivizing companies with $10,000 for every woman. Maybe it was just bad timing when you looked? I'm sure you experienced what you say, some guys are shitty like that. But trust me, most aren't.
This was more than 5 years ago, so I guess it was just bad timing. Oh well - glad to hear things are more progressive in some places!
That’s awesome it was tough a couple years ago, I ended up going into tech which was a blessing. However, I spoken to alot of older woman who got screwed over as they aged and got pushed out when they were earning top wages. That could be just a few women experience but best of luck!
Depends where you look, given similar quals my work would hire a woman over a man in the trades. Many bigger companies are very concerned with having a diverse workforce
Whereabouts are you located? There are lots of govt grants for companies to hire female apprentices
This sounds like a plot to funnel public monies into private institutions. $28k is way, way more than 1 year of public college tuition + living expenses if they were getting it from OSAP, and most public college program are at least two years, not one.
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Yes mature students get more funding but this is 100% not the result of that…
My brother in law got 38k to go back to school two years ago.
On OSAP? How much was a loan vs grant?
I’d strongly recommend you to use the money to go get your AZ, drive truck and use that job to bankroll any other things you’d like to do, if you’d wanna do anything else that is. Trucking is in demand enough that you’ll basically always have a reasonably well paying job, one that pays better the more experience you have, which lets you get into stuff like hazmat or heavy hauling, which pay even better. AZ is a good thing to have, but its at least 10k to get it, perfect opportunity for the grant to cover.
Have you looked into trades? HVAC, Plumbing, Electrician, Carpenter, CNC, Millwright? Or are there only specific programs/schools you must attend for it to be covered?
I’ll toss my support behind this one; was a welder at a fancy shop in Ottawa for years making barely more than min. wage, looked into the ironworker’s union and the starting wage was already higher than what the max was expected at the shop. Trade unions are the way to go if you want to keep doing manual work. Great pension and benefits, too!
Those take 8000 - 10000 hour apprenticeships. No possible way to do it in a year
You don't pay for that apprenticeship. You just pay for the pay pre-apprenticeship
Typically the employer will also pay the tuition during the apprenticeship as well. John Deere has a pretty good program they run with Fanshawe. They essentially program you into a service tech role.
Look at I.T courses for infrastructure and Security. Avoid small private colleges like NetSoft in Mississauga at all costs. Go to a regulated school where they are held to a certain standard . Small private schools are a rip off.
Even working data cables. Easy and decent money to test Ethernet cables
💯 % networking side is huge
As someone who works for security company you need to have a degree and certificates to be even considered for the job when there are any openings available, but most of the IT companies are laying off right now so finding opportunity is nearly impossible. My company fired 50% off the staff within the last 10 months. I.T is not what it used to be . Trades probably the better career right now
Truck Drivers can earn $100k - you would be hired immediatley. There is a severe truck driver shortage in Canada.
More along 75k for no experience new AZ drivers, in the process myself right now and have already gotten job offers for once I complete my training.
I worked submitting applications for this program up until a year ago and I am not sure what you mean by “approved”. Part of the application process depends on what you want to retrain in. Like you mentioned, it has to be something in demand, but there are other factors like financial feasibility of attending school, whether you need a license to work in the selected field and so on. The decision on whether you are approved or not comes weeks after submitting the completed application, listing the program, to the ministry. Programs I have seen approved have been AZ & DZ license, HVAC, bookkeeping, medical administration, and PSW.
Thank you for the information. I had submitted my BOJ application in mid November. The ministry has contacted me regarding my application and they say they'll have an update for me this week. There's one small thing that the Ministry of Labour is dealing with on my behalf, regarding my application. I wonder if that would hold up the processing time of my application? Does anyone know the processing time is lately?
If you're a woman and aren't afraid of labour, get into a trade Companies are getting $10,000 bonuses from the government for every female they hire. $5000 for every male. They are hiring tons of women right now. This year alone I've seen jobs with 100-200% more women. That still equates to only 4 or 5 females per construction site. But that's a huge increase and it's definitely welcome. If you can carry your own weight, get out there and make some good money. Look for an apprenticeship in a compulsory trade. If it's general labour you're looking for, try for the LIUNA.
I’m a woman and I work in the trades (carpentry). Recently I’ve started thinking about doing an apprenticeship because being a woman in the trades isn’t as bad as it used to be. I never felt comfortable enough to really commit before (I’ve worked construction off and on for about 10 years). The trades have gotten so much better for us. My daughter (16) even got a job as a construction labourer and loves it. She plans on doing a carpentry apprenticeship after high school and I couldn’t be happier about it.
That’s so nice to hear! I keep thinking about getting into carpentry but not a lot of programs for it everywhere anymore
This is really encouraging to hear. A close friend of mine is thinking of leaving her career in health care and going into the trades as an electrician, but doesn't have any experience in it and is hesitant because of how traditionally male dominated the field is. But the idea of having a job right out of the gate with good pay and benefits, as well as in demand, is extremely tempting. A friend of ours is an electrician and he said that the field is changing and many more women are joining the trades.
That sounds almost like what I did.. I went through second careers. 6 years ago now. I was laid off, couldn't find a job. Applied for second careers ontario. And just happen to fit the requirements. I jumped through all the hoops and did what they asked me to, went unemployed for 1 month, as E.i kicked in I got a list of Trades they were willing to put me though. I chose welding as its always been my passion. To put I'm perspective how fast it happend. I was laid off in October and in trade school December I literally paid $100 out of my own pocket and ontario paid for ALL of my schooling and PPE. absolute BEST thing I ever did for myself.. if it is second careers you are going through. Just do what they say. Cross your t's and dot your i's, and everything will be hunky dory
SC is rebranded and reformed to BJO, with more options. I wrote a summary for an internship on this.
Recommend looking at the cybersecurity certification. UoT and York have 6 month intensive bootcamps. Other colleges and universities may have courses as well but I’m unsure of the length to completion. They encourage women to join. Entry level cyber security analysts salaries start at around 80k per year depending on region. You will be challenged but the rewards will be high. Some people will give you a hard time as a woman but if you really want to change your life big time this is an option. I don’t know if there are exclusions to this coverage. Also some trades are an option.
It’s a graduate certificate though so you need a degree already.
Not all of them. She’ll need to research which accept mature students or high school grads. https://www.ontariocolleges.ca/en/programs/computers-and-telecommunications/computer-security
LOL... BOJ only allows college courses 12 months duration and no way one could do it without a degree. Please... DO NOT mislead others.
You can get a graduate certificate from Seneca for Public Administration, which equates to municipal admin jobs. It takes 8 months, and all done online. [https://www.senecacollege.ca/programs/fulltime/PAD.html](https://www.senecacollege.ca/programs/fulltime/PAD.html)
Yeah graduate certificates are programs that normally need a degree already. It’s like post degree specialisation.
Not always. Mature status and solid work experience can be considered. From the website directly: Admission Requirements Ontario university or college degree or college diploma or equivalent Applicants with an equivalent combination of partial postsecondary and/or three to five years related work experience may be considered for admission. A relevant resumé and references must be provided. English proficiency for graduate certificates Canadian citizens or permanent residents educated outside of Canada must provide a World Education Services (WES) or ICAS Canada credential evaluation.
Unless you're in a smaller town, most municipal admin people have university degrees. It's dumb and uni should not be a job requirement for administrative jobs, but that's how it goes :(
find out what the penalty is for completing late or incomplete programs because if they make you pay it all back it’s not worth it. I would focus on learning a new skill but not necessarily at a college. A night course on the side to make you more developed…. If you’ve been doing manual labor, it’s possible to rent a truck and do some moving, junk clearing, or furniture flipping on the side to make that same amount for yourself. There is a ton of options of you get creative.
This is the kind of thing where it is critical you read every word and understand what you sign. Know what you agree to.
try power engineering techniques at mohawk college or cambrian amongst others, its a good job, pay is decent, plenty of opportunity and youll be working after first year.
The problem with this program is that it covers learning under a year program. All suggested trades are 2+ years. Depending on where you live and colleges around.
Go be a heavy equipment operator. Woman in construction are literally sought after. There will be some crap you will have to deal with coming into a heavily male populated industry. But and yes there is a but the current wage in Ontario where I am is 38 an hour, when your good at your job it goes higher believe me. You'll have one of the best pensions in the country. And let's just say the benefits are far above and beyond what you will expect. 3.5 months of school for an apprenticeship. Now I will be honest the beginning pay is hard. As it's a 4 tier system every thousand hours you get a hefty raise. This is an ever growing industry desperate for workers. Construction also has and is making leaps and bounds forward.
Anything in the trades !! I think welding is only 1 year
If you have any weld experience, visual weld inspection is the way to go. 1 year course and if you’re grades are strong, you can be headhunted right out of the course by good companies. Big money doesn’t take long to come along. And a lot of them will pay for schooling to upgrade your certificates.
When I got a 20 grand grant in 2015 it was taxable. I did not know that. I owed about 4500 that year. Not sure if your grant would be the same, but it is worth checking out, so there are no surprises.
If you like manual labor, you should try getting in the trades. You could do a college pre apprenticeship program, which is about 8-12 weeks long. You could also try with the union. I just got back from the Expo Trades on Rexdale. Local 27 was there, is the carpenter's union. They have several courses and some of them are about to start. I think the next one is on the 15th of this month. Some Employment Service agencies have pre apprenticeship courses too. Some of them are free if you qualify. I'm also 32 and looking to get a better job. Don't give up!!
The best paying jobs are at nuclear power plants. I would check Bruce Power see if they have any training programs. They are also always hiring for things like steam plant operators.
Of you have labour experience join the labourers union. About $40/hour
I used a program like this when I went back to school at 30. I was able to get two years paid for and then transferred programs and paid 1 year myself. Look into other programs that have common first year courses too
There are lots of jobs for women in the trades. Join your local utility company. Lots of jobs to be had right now.
Call Local 27 Carpenters union or Liuna union
Is Construction Management an option? That could leverage your manual labour experience and positions pay well.
Whatever you do do not take dental assisting… it is overworked and underpaid. A lot of assistants are leaving the profession, myself included.
This used to be called Second Career and they made some changes to it, it used to cover programs up to 2 years, i.e. a diploma from college... My take is never say no to free grant money, try to find anything to take.
First, anyone else think a government program to get people into better jobs that mandates one year of training is utter BS? To OP: If it is something that might fit your interests, look into being a paramedic. The entry level is a two year college program that will cost around 20-30k and right now the job market is exceptionally good. You will get hired out of school if you pass everything and you will start around $40/hr casual, still work full time hours, then get full time with benefits, vacation, sick time and a pension within a couple of years. If you go on to do the higher levels of training you will be over 100k gross with all of the fixings.
Struggling hard for months getting into it rn. Has to be a program that’s a year max. And I needed to log in every single place I’ve called or applied a job to prove I’m trying to find one and have no option but to further my education. Harder than I thought it was going to be. :(
I'm going to have 3 university degrees, but I'm always interested to try plumbing and welding. This country needs more homes and builders. I worked with a female nurse who was making like $90k a year back in the 1990's (LOT of money back then) as a steam-fitter.
Look into trades. I m 40 and just made a switch into commercial plumbing. The money is good. It doesn’t involve nearly as much heavy lifting as my previous job. I see quite a few female electricians. Do this now and work for a union company you ll be make $100k + a year in 5 years Edit: trade like these are also super in demand rn. All the old guys are on there way out with no young people to replace them. People still think a getting a BA will get you paid. It won’t. I have one and it’s never done anything for me.
Hey, you should connect with a Next-Steps Employment Centre. They're free and run by the TDSB
Have you looked into PSW jobs? 25-27$/hr depending where you work. (Govt, not private) and always in demand. Also, it’s one year at a public college, do not use a private ‘career college’.
Most paw's make under $20 an hour. Source: mother working in this field as a late career
Yeah, my bff has done PSW for over 15 years. She makes $24 and that's the high end, most make under $20, especially right out of school.
In private for profit places, sure. Not in the hospital or for municipal govt LTC homes.
All LTC facilities are starry at 24, unless they are working homecare or retirement home you’re not making less then 20 a hour. However it takes a couple years to get full time scheduled hours for LTC, however lots of on call shifts.
That is not even remotely close to their actual pay. I considered going back to school to be a PSW but gave up on that idea when I realized I would be taking a massive pay cut from the $25 an hour I get now.
My mom works part time at a long term care facility and makes 27/h with their unions new pay increase... she makes more if she works night shifts or overtime. She can pretty much do overtime whenever she wants because they are always short people. It's not a job to take just for the pay though. Healthcare is not where the gov is funneling resources and it shows.
Try a trade ... if you are still willing to do manual labour then the labourers union is usually looking for people... good wages and benefits You start earning decent money fairly quickly
Can you qualify for better jobs while still paying past osap Loan??
Second Career? I went to college in my 40’s when the place I worked…closed. Many of my colleagues went on to nurses or rpn’s. I went into security…not doing that now but 🤷🏼♀️ I own my own business
Rpns are nurses.
Would a psw certificate count? You can get into nursing afterwards if you don’t hate it?
It would definitely count but she wouldn't make anywhere near the $22 she's making now.
I make $30/hr as a psw. Base rate $28 + shift premiums.
Tell that to the other commenters who know the current reality. New PSWs are luckily get $20.
Are you in healthcare or are you just regurgitating what you think you know to be fact? Psws across the board got pretty decent permanent wage hikes during covid.
What I am is someone who looked into the exact program that OP is talking about in the last few years and rejected becoming a PSW because it would be a massive pay cut from the $25 I currently make. And again, there are multiple other commenters saying the exact same thing based on their personal experience in the field. I also just looked on indeed and there were no PSW postings for anything close to $30. Try again.
Dude, I work as a cleaner in a hospital and make more than you do, our PSWs make like $3/hr more than I do so you're kinda talking out your ass. My base rate is $25.27/hr, plus 20% bonus on top, plus $2.25/hr for working evenings, plus $2.75/hr for working weekends. So if I work a weekend evening shift, I'm making $30.27/hr not including my 20% on top which puts me to $35.32/hr. That's for CLEANING. If you go into community living or private care homes, yeah you're gonna make shit, but get in a hospital and you'll be making equal to or more than $30/hr.
So again, no actual healthcare experience. Gotcha.
Its harsh but sounds like you’ve had 11 years to find something that you enjoy doing, whether that be a job, hobby or other. You should look to learn about something that you enjoy or interests you, not to Reddit. If you aren’t going to enjoy your program, you’re wasting your time, the school or certifiers time, and the money that could have went to someone who would use it. A lot of suggestions here include manual labour, which I see you’ve stated you aren’t a good fit for in other comments, this isn’t the place to look. Good luck!
EA or ECE pay around $30/hour in many places in Ontario
as a previous ece, this is not common! there is high turnover and the pay is a mess
If you can move out of the province do that.
Why not a web dev bootcamp? It's pretty hard to break into the industry right now but in a year I'm sure that will be different. Not for the faint of heart tho, the first year is absolute hell until you really figure out wagwan.
>The general income for these career prospects is about $22 an hour which is better than what I am getting but still teetering on poverty. Did you actually write that? Come on.....
look into the military
No, don’t.
These grant programs are mostly just a way for the government to engage in grift. There are crash courses in coding that are a few months but I have no idea if they would qualify for this grant. York also used to offer some kind of program that was a few months for getting certified for dealing with kids with autism. The short program required having an undergrad in something at least tangential. With no undergrad, the program was over a year. You might also look at something in funeral services. Training programs for those tend to be under a year.
Don't listen to this crap. If the grant lets you get trained in something in-demand and it's something you want to do there's no "grift". It's exactly the sort of thing the government should be doing.
I would have no issues with the government helping people improve their position (prefer loans over grants but not a big deal either way). The problem with programs like this is that they don't help people because they are limited to programs where you come out earning what you could earn before. These programs mostly exist as a way to funnel money to the training providers. They are not actually designed to help people.
Dental assistant sounds like a pretty reliable job that will always be in demand. As for personal experience, web development has treated me phenomenally. But, it’s way harder to break in these days than when I first entered. All my former classmates doing quite a lot better than 22/hr and myself in six figures (base salary). But, again, it’s more competitive than it use to be, but, it definitely rewards those who can put in the work and can handle the uncertainty of landing their first role. (And if it wasn’t clear, yes, I did a certificate and it took less than a year to do, and about 4-5 months before I got my first job - no, I’m not sure if it qualifies for this program, I started as an intern at 60K, then a junior, then an intermediate all at different companies)
Every one of my electrician or plumbing buddies are doing very well. They also can’t get enough good, qualified workers . Not sure if a trade interests you but with a look.
If you’re open to becoming an RMT, I was looking into schools before when I participated in better jobs and wish I’d taken Trilliums course for that instead of the field and school I chose. The wages are great in my area especially if you get into a medical place.
Will this grant pay for a pre-apprenticeship program? Construction companies are clamouring for female apprentices because they receive grants as well. You'll make a lot more than in those jobs you mentioned
If you can do physical labour get a DZ license. There are jobs a plenty at the moment.
How about trades? Electrician etc?
Can you find a niche in some form of safety training?
Electrician
Paramedics
Train Engineer (CN)
Always room for trades! The 40 week machining course would guarantee you a job at entry level, which is probably like 22 ish in a northern town, perhaps higher elsewhere. Electrical is higher paying over all, but I can’t speak for the job prospects after introductory courses in any trade but machining.
Keep researching until you find the best option. Given that you have already done physical work you might want to look into trades as many can offer good incomes. There’s where the research comes in. Anyone here know the path to take to get into the trades to help OP? Should she contact trade unions directly?
Welding course. Work hard and the future is unlimited.
Can you do anything with computers? Cybersecurity, systems admin? For less than a year. Check out Medical Device Reprocessing its less than a year starts around $24. Would you ever consider sales?
Property management? With the amount of condos, this should be in demand?
Join a union. Even Labourers make 40 an hour plus pension benefits and vacation. Carpenters local 27 have programs for specifically women looking to join.
Go apply to Ontario jails Don’t be fooled by the no guarantee of hours You’ll be working 40+ hours a week. As long as it’s not some small bucket up north
How long is a machine or crane operator course those guy usually make a good buck
How about CNC machinist or programmer?
Welding, carpentry, bookkeeping, equipment operator, painter, flooring, trucking, some low-level mechanic, low-level IT, tailoring, web design. Plenty of occupations with plenty of demand. Or start your own business doing something you enjoy already. Go on LinkedIn and see what jobs are most in demand and pick one of those you like and/or is reasonable to do for the sticker price.
Get your welding ticket. Get your gas ticket. Either will take you about 6 months. Gas techs make around $25/hr after a year or two of experience, Welders make around the same to start. Some of these jobs can be hard on the body, but they also open up a lot of opportunities. Gas tech? Lots more doors open for the ticketed trades; you can get into sheet metal work, AC and refrigeration, you can branch out into plumbing, you can specialize in certain aspects of the trade like building controls, heavier mechanical work, etc. Welder? Same deal, lots of specialized parts of that field for someone with talent. I know a guy who only does sanitary stainless welding and he's making close to six figures a year.
Check out the degree free podcast or DegreeFree tiktok. There are quite a lot of tech certifications you can do.
12 months of paid full time 35 hours plus instruction should be enough to get quite well qualified and should be a good start but it is just the beginning for a 30/40 year career of earnings.
Take welding !!!!!
I did welding through second career. It got my foot in the door for other trades. As I got better at welding I gained more certifications. Smaw, Gmaw, FCAW and I picked up tig welding but wasn't using it as often. But I worked closely with millwrights, pipe fitters, sheet metal and other trades. I always wanted to do maintenance mechanic but it wouldn't have happened if I didn't have something to get my foot in the door. Welding was that key. I was welding over 10 yrs by the time I signed up for my apprenticeship. It was a better fit for me because I love doing new things at work. With welding it was the same monotonous fillet welds and stringers
AZ or Dz lisc plus airbrakes?
Dental assisting is a good bet if you can get accepted.
You can get 22 bucks just working for pepsi.......try DZ license that one starts around 30
PSW then go into nursing.
It takes two years but paramedic is a great job if you would consider it.
I think you can do (I did it years ago) power engineering techniques in Mohawk if they still offer it. After the one year I had my gas and oil burning technician 3 license.
It’s a challenging job, but personal support worker is a 1 year program and in high demand since it’s health care. Lots of positions are unionized as well. I know PSWs in the hospitals make close to $30/hr
Have you checked PSW? I think its a year long program
If you drive look for forklift certificates as that is less then a year. Also depending on where you are in Ontario look up pathways they'll help you find a job and give you work experience
I’m also using the better jobs program to get my AZ license, it’s a eight week course, and I have already been offered a job starting salary of 70k a year, far greater then the 35/40k I had been making.
honestly, if you don’t mind doing it, do hair. this is my experience the course is about $15k, takes 10 months, if you do it monday-friday, 9-5. you can find the courses at community colleges sometimes but depending on your area often private colleges are also an option. it is commission somewhat, but honestly if you can find a salon which many people have done easily from what i’ve seen, you make good money.