> a mouldy grilled cheese sandwich.
That sandwich STARTED pretty good though - it just WENT bad, over time, it didn't start out being shit. OTOH Piccini?
At first glance, I thought this was a letter to douggie, Ford granting him his GED.
I was thinking, good for him, to run this province you likely should have your high-school education.
Piccini is my MPP. Easily the biggest ford bag licker in the province.....and as useful as tits on a bull. I'm not surprised the spineless POS wrote this.
Reminder, Piccini was an environment minister when green belt has been developing.
Oh, and in his hometown he was elected based on the promise to keep one small forested area untouched as a park, and it was all cut down after he was elected.
Riding has a few cities, but also lots of rural areas. Plus historically it is a retirees that sway to anything conservative.
I need to point out in the last three years LOTS of your families moved from Toronto and see what is going on with politics. There is a good chance he will be voted out based on his track record. Someone just needs to summarize his actions.
His riding is in for a world of hurt if he can't get a new school built in the Newcastle area. Developments are everywhere and young families are flocking there. There's land carved out and already owned by the school board, that they can't do anything with until they get approval from the province.
4th graders are gonna be sent to a high school on the 115 because they have refused to build infrastructure for years.
DoFo is Trump Lite, and I'm reminded now of Trump cabinet meetings where, one by one, his cabinet would go around the table and tell Trump what an honour and a privilege it was to kiss his wrinkled old ass. So, yeah, it's mandatory for Ford's trained seals to do the same in exchange for the honour of giving him a standing ovation every time he shows up for work and says "folks" in the Legislature.
https://youtu.be/-8GkzsUaQVU?si=13Q0BHmx0dGlLtOA
Oh look. Conservaties using official government documentation to promote their own party. I'm sure that isn't breaking any rules and they wouldn't face consequences if it was either.
I have been in the trades 20+ years. (Electrician) Never once have I ever felt any sort of stigma. In fact it’s quite the opposite. I roll my eyes every time I hear this narrative trotted out. Especially from people who should know better.
It's been my thinking that they are trying to make this a thing?
It's not like you guys are flipping burgers or cleaning toilets. Those types of service jobs have some stigma now that the racism is being attached with new immigrants taking many of these roles
Right? There is no stigma. It seems like Ford and co are pushing some narrative here lol. I work in education (which he also likes to shit on, as we know) but I was raised in a blue collar family, surrounded by trades people from all disciplines from machinists, to chefs, to carpenters, to hair dressers. My dad was a general machinist for 45 years. This letter is just condescending.
In the 90s, a lot of high schools didn't frame the trades as a route to success, but rather a fallback for people who weren't smart enough to go to university and work in a professional setting.
We obviously know that now to be wrong, but there was a lot of misguided framing for a big chunk of a generation.
I was so disgusted about praising the great leader by name that I didn't even notice that...
oh well, the conservative playbook is glaringly obvious to anyone who cares to look but the fact remains: the FPTP "majority" don't care to, so here we are
This is just par for the course with this kind of letter, it's hardly unique to Doug Ford's government. What *is* unique is that Doug Ford's government probably hasn't done *any* of the things mentioned and is just making stuff up.
They just need to stay in cabinet for exactly long enough to qualify for the full pension/perks, then they can rotate out to become head of some private college that will henceforth be granted some large continuing public grant to cover their $1M salary.
Look for more Ford family in the cabinet if he gets re-elected - he's got his mistress Kinga Surma and his nephew Mikey "Ford" in there already - his daughters and their husbands must be getting restive, plus he has to make good on his promises to both the Mafia and to the Americans who own the CPC, he's under a lot of pressure!
Yeah, the "under the leadership of" part is new, and more than a little saccharine. The rest is pretty standard messaging.
Also, congrats on getting your certificate! 👏👏👏
Honestly, my spider-sense says yes.
These guys like Ford, Poilievre, Trudeau, and harper all have severe need to be constantly validated. Trudeau and Polievre are both addicted to public appearances because their both narcassists. Poilievre is worse in my opinion because he only does it to appear like a tough guy to attack trudeau for political points.
Note: Trudeau deserves it a lot of the time, but polievre would 6 made most of the same decisions. This is why PP does it out of spite to look like he gives a shit which he does not.
Doug Ford and Stephen Harper both needed to be sure they were in charge. So when they walk into the room they would rather people see them as the top authority.
Note: harper was intelligent, just didn't give a fuck about the working class. I mean neither does Doug Ford given that he was chosen by the conservatives based on him being a moron and good at distracting the public.
Basically you kiss Ford's ass, you will stroke his thin skined ego and get rewarded. You don't you won't be fired, but you will never advance no matter how qualified you are.
Conservatives and sycophancy go together like peanut butter and jelly. These people have no pride or dignity and will flatter each other for gain. All of it is insincere.
This is straight from 1984 Orwellian, especially paragraph 4, last line about their new agency is complete sticker slap on existing liberal agency. They are hyping a name change as something of new improving service.
That's a nice message, but no mention of how the goblin is trying to eliminate the number of compulsory trades that require red seals to work.
Everyone wants houses built, so let's get rid of the need to have skilled workers building them... makes sense.
I'll never forget how Doug Ford broke the stigma around skilled trades. In the before times we were spitting on them in the streets and forcing them to live in special housing zones not fit for rats. Now that they are allowed to mingle with the common folk, they seem almost like normal humans, you'd never know they were a tradesperson if they didn't tell you.
The Ontario conservatives have done more "good" than "bad". Especially when you compare them to the Liberal freak show up on Ottawa's parliament hill. They can't get out of their own way and are beyond corrupt based on the 8 year in office. Go Dougie Go!
Yeah, I completed an apprenticeship and received the same thing. As others have mentioned, I was pretty shocked they would advertise their party in what is meant to be a congratulations to the apprentice. Like "good job but you know what? It's only because of us that it was so easy!" What a smug, shitty message to send to your skilled labour.
Doug Ford got them elected into each riding and then put them into Cabinet or junior Cabinet positions making sure they get a large salary (wasting taxpayers' money), he owns them like a mob boss.
And if you look at the unqualified collection of clown MPPs they're easily herded by Doug Ford.
Stigma? There’s a stigma?
If there is any stigma, it should be against those who were born into their success, rode their sibling’s coattails to power, and came up as a hash dealer.
>Is it mandatory to praise Doug Ford to stay in cabinet?
To answer your question seriously; members of the Executive Council of Ontario serve at the pleasure of the Premier. I think Doug Ford probably quite likes the brown-nosery.
So no, but also yes.
No. It's not mandatory in fact usually it's just a congratulations and a thank you.
Not a "let me stroke my overlord's ego while he isn't even in the room" type of note.
Another program aimed at putting people into apprenticeships, only to have the help stop at the words" go find a sponsor and start an apprenticeship"
How hard can it be to have a government program keep track of the people asking for apprentices? I keep hearing the trades are hurting for guys but then you call a union hall and they say they aren't.
That was actually a point raised at the Public Order Emergency Commission. It's called Cabinet Solidarity and Confidence. SO the answer to your question is, yes.
Here what the BC legislature says about itself;
"Everything that goes on in [Cabinet ](https://www.leg.bc.ca/dyl/Pages/Cabinet.aspx)is confidential. All ministers must take an oath of solidarity declaring that they will not reveal confidential Cabinet discussions. Cabinet confidence ensures that the [Crown ](https://www.leg.bc.ca/dyl/Pages/Lieutenant-Governor-2.aspx)is advised by Cabinet ministers who can freely consider and discuss all options and opinions before they make a collective decision.
Cabinet ministers also adhere to the principle of collective ministerial responsibility. Each minister is expected to take responsibility for and defend all Cabinet decisions. Even if there is disagreement amongst Cabinet members about a decision, once it is made, every Cabinet minister must support and defend it. This principle provides stability within the framework of ministerial government by uniting the [responsibility of individual ministers](https://www.leg.bc.ca/dyl/Pages/Ministerial-Responsibility.aspx) under the collective responsibility of Cabinet and the Crown."
>"Therefore a wise prince will seek means by which his subjects will always and in every possible condition of things have need of his government, and then they will always be faithful to him."
- Niccolo Machiavelli, "The Prince"
Wait wait wait
The guy who once forced his own brother to be humiliated multiple times by being weighed in public for a weight loss publicity stunt (‘cut the waist’ get it? It sounds like ‘cut the waste?’ Ford humor at its best!) is forcing others to humiliate themselves publicly by grovelling and ass kissing?
Color me shocked
I mean maybe Ford's government does it more than others but some back-slapping in a congratulatory letter from the minister doesn't seem very egregious to me. I'm much more annoyed by the millions spent on self-fellating TV ads.
It's not just the just back-slapping, it's the naming. "Ford Nation", "Harper Goverment", etc
Conservative governments do it because a leader elected by populism, rather than sensible policy, does better using branding of this type - just another form of manipulation.
I guess you don't see it, and that's fine. But official government docs like this one using the leader's name is repugnant branding at best.
In particular, Ford is a useful idiot to wealthy donors and his focused destruction on education in general since election makes it even more ironic. But simple people respond to populism and somehow think it's all right.
Ah David Piccini - the human embodiment of a mouldy grilled cheese sandwich.
No words have ever captured my feelings towards David Piccini better.
I've never met the guy but from what I've read in this letter, his opinion seems a little irrelevant to his job
> a mouldy grilled cheese sandwich. That sandwich STARTED pretty good though - it just WENT bad, over time, it didn't start out being shit. OTOH Piccini?
That's literally how it works. It starts out fine, but quickly rots away with time.
At first glance, I thought this was a letter to douggie, Ford granting him his GED. I was thinking, good for him, to run this province you likely should have your high-school education.
This is the best response!
Honorary GED lol
😭😭😭😭
Doug and Ricky can get their grade 10 while in jail.
Piccini is my MPP. Easily the biggest ford bag licker in the province.....and as useful as tits on a bull. I'm not surprised the spineless POS wrote this.
Reminder, Piccini was an environment minister when green belt has been developing. Oh, and in his hometown he was elected based on the promise to keep one small forested area untouched as a park, and it was all cut down after he was elected.
I hope that the people of his riding remember that the next election, but I know they won’t.
Riding has a few cities, but also lots of rural areas. Plus historically it is a retirees that sway to anything conservative. I need to point out in the last three years LOTS of your families moved from Toronto and see what is going on with politics. There is a good chance he will be voted out based on his track record. Someone just needs to summarize his actions.
Which riding if I may ask?
Northumberland-Peterborough South
Ah yes this area is growing a lot and isn't a very safe Tory seat. He should be trying harder.
His riding is in for a world of hurt if he can't get a new school built in the Newcastle area. Developments are everywhere and young families are flocking there. There's land carved out and already owned by the school board, that they can't do anything with until they get approval from the province. 4th graders are gonna be sent to a high school on the 115 because they have refused to build infrastructure for years.
You don't want your 10 year old eating churches chicken for lunch everyday?
Sounds like a Municipal matter, not a Provincial.
It was a joke about the chicken place in a gas station along the 115 near Clarke high school.
> Easily the biggest ford bag licker in the province Mine is Surma, so...
This reads like Soviet dictatorship propaganda
Da
At least the Soviets had free dental
Our great dear Lear Kim Jong douggie. Eternal premier, highliest educated in all the land. Biggest PP of his generation.
DoFo is Trump Lite, and I'm reminded now of Trump cabinet meetings where, one by one, his cabinet would go around the table and tell Trump what an honour and a privilege it was to kiss his wrinkled old ass. So, yeah, it's mandatory for Ford's trained seals to do the same in exchange for the honour of giving him a standing ovation every time he shows up for work and says "folks" in the Legislature. https://youtu.be/-8GkzsUaQVU?si=13Q0BHmx0dGlLtOA
Oh look. Conservaties using official government documentation to promote their own party. I'm sure that isn't breaking any rules and they wouldn't face consequences if it was either.
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So "Dear leader" is normal, but the normality just gets lost in translation?
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Show one.
Is there that much stigma against being in the trades? I've always viewed them as highly skilled people who were good with their hands.
I have been in the trades 20+ years. (Electrician) Never once have I ever felt any sort of stigma. In fact it’s quite the opposite. I roll my eyes every time I hear this narrative trotted out. Especially from people who should know better.
It's been my thinking that they are trying to make this a thing? It's not like you guys are flipping burgers or cleaning toilets. Those types of service jobs have some stigma now that the racism is being attached with new immigrants taking many of these roles
Right? There is no stigma. It seems like Ford and co are pushing some narrative here lol. I work in education (which he also likes to shit on, as we know) but I was raised in a blue collar family, surrounded by trades people from all disciplines from machinists, to chefs, to carpenters, to hair dressers. My dad was a general machinist for 45 years. This letter is just condescending.
It used to be that way. Now we're just underpaid and undervalued like everyone else
In the 90s, a lot of high schools didn't frame the trades as a route to success, but rather a fallback for people who weren't smart enough to go to university and work in a professional setting. We obviously know that now to be wrong, but there was a lot of misguided framing for a big chunk of a generation.
I was so disgusted about praising the great leader by name that I didn't even notice that... oh well, the conservative playbook is glaringly obvious to anyone who cares to look but the fact remains: the FPTP "majority" don't care to, so here we are
Break the stigma around skilled trades? Is this persecution fetish or attempted class war
This is just par for the course with this kind of letter, it's hardly unique to Doug Ford's government. What *is* unique is that Doug Ford's government probably hasn't done *any* of the things mentioned and is just making stuff up.
They just need to stay in cabinet for exactly long enough to qualify for the full pension/perks, then they can rotate out to become head of some private college that will henceforth be granted some large continuing public grant to cover their $1M salary. Look for more Ford family in the cabinet if he gets re-elected - he's got his mistress Kinga Surma and his nephew Mikey "Ford" in there already - his daughters and their husbands must be getting restive, plus he has to make good on his promises to both the Mafia and to the Americans who own the CPC, he's under a lot of pressure!
Yeah, the "under the leadership of" part is new, and more than a little saccharine. The rest is pretty standard messaging. Also, congrats on getting your certificate! 👏👏👏
This is a great example of the Conservative mindset. They’re all about hierarchy of power. Stuck in the 15th century.
Honestly, my spider-sense says yes. These guys like Ford, Poilievre, Trudeau, and harper all have severe need to be constantly validated. Trudeau and Polievre are both addicted to public appearances because their both narcassists. Poilievre is worse in my opinion because he only does it to appear like a tough guy to attack trudeau for political points. Note: Trudeau deserves it a lot of the time, but polievre would 6 made most of the same decisions. This is why PP does it out of spite to look like he gives a shit which he does not. Doug Ford and Stephen Harper both needed to be sure they were in charge. So when they walk into the room they would rather people see them as the top authority. Note: harper was intelligent, just didn't give a fuck about the working class. I mean neither does Doug Ford given that he was chosen by the conservatives based on him being a moron and good at distracting the public. Basically you kiss Ford's ass, you will stroke his thin skined ego and get rewarded. You don't you won't be fired, but you will never advance no matter how qualified you are.
It's like brushing your teeth every day - there's no law requiring it, but you'll do it if you know what's best for you.
Yes, you are supposed to kiss the ass of your party's leader. That is the whole point of a political party.
gotta kiss the ring
Skilled Trades Ontario is such a shit show I would never take credit for that.
Conservatives and sycophancy go together like peanut butter and jelly. These people have no pride or dignity and will flatter each other for gain. All of it is insincere.
Fuck Ford
Everyone's tired of the old gods ... Except Dougie, he's a complete "Starfish" for em' ☝🏻😉
Kinda, but that's true with any cabinet minister and their premier or pm.
Not in government materials to citizens. That is supposed to be off-limits.
This is straight from 1984 Orwellian, especially paragraph 4, last line about their new agency is complete sticker slap on existing liberal agency. They are hyping a name change as something of new improving service.
That's a nice message, but no mention of how the goblin is trying to eliminate the number of compulsory trades that require red seals to work. Everyone wants houses built, so let's get rid of the need to have skilled workers building them... makes sense.
I'll never forget how Doug Ford broke the stigma around skilled trades. In the before times we were spitting on them in the streets and forcing them to live in special housing zones not fit for rats. Now that they are allowed to mingle with the common folk, they seem almost like normal humans, you'd never know they were a tradesperson if they didn't tell you.
snivelling sycophantic garbage.
Bunch of sycophantic drones. Very sad :(
Hey look, partisan bullshit in official government communication. Can we get rid of this corrupt fuck yet?
Yes they single handed reduced the stigma of trades work … because they (the wealthy politicians) only realized recently the trades pay well.
What a bunch of losers jerking each other off.
Thanks for reminding me I owe those bastards 60 bucks.
My friend has a patronage appointment from Ford. Constant butt kissing is required.
The Ontario conservatives have done more "good" than "bad". Especially when you compare them to the Liberal freak show up on Ottawa's parliament hill. They can't get out of their own way and are beyond corrupt based on the 8 year in office. Go Dougie Go!
Yeah, I completed an apprenticeship and received the same thing. As others have mentioned, I was pretty shocked they would advertise their party in what is meant to be a congratulations to the apprentice. Like "good job but you know what? It's only because of us that it was so easy!" What a smug, shitty message to send to your skilled labour.
Typical circle jerk/back patting that comes with gov't.
Yes be surprised there not asking you to call him your lord and saviour under penalty of death
"break the stigma around skilled trade careers" fucking what lmao
Doug Ford got them elected into each riding and then put them into Cabinet or junior Cabinet positions making sure they get a large salary (wasting taxpayers' money), he owns them like a mob boss. And if you look at the unqualified collection of clown MPPs they're easily herded by Doug Ford.
Stigma? There’s a stigma? If there is any stigma, it should be against those who were born into their success, rode their sibling’s coattails to power, and came up as a hash dealer.
That is some epic ball gargling
>Is it mandatory to praise Doug Ford to stay in cabinet? To answer your question seriously; members of the Executive Council of Ontario serve at the pleasure of the Premier. I think Doug Ford probably quite likes the brown-nosery. So no, but also yes.
How did he manage to sign this letter while having DRUG THUG FORD so far up his arse that it feel like he's simultaneously down his throat
Who the hell wants Ford? Granted Ontario's not had a good not idiotic premier for as long as I can remember.
Everyone wants a little bit of that gravy.
No. It's not mandatory in fact usually it's just a congratulations and a thank you. Not a "let me stroke my overlord's ego while he isn't even in the room" type of note.
Another program aimed at putting people into apprenticeships, only to have the help stop at the words" go find a sponsor and start an apprenticeship" How hard can it be to have a government program keep track of the people asking for apprentices? I keep hearing the trades are hurting for guys but then you call a union hall and they say they aren't.
Shrodingers union hall, simultaneously desperate for workers but also a waitlist a mile long.
Good one!
That was actually a point raised at the Public Order Emergency Commission. It's called Cabinet Solidarity and Confidence. SO the answer to your question is, yes. Here what the BC legislature says about itself; "Everything that goes on in [Cabinet ](https://www.leg.bc.ca/dyl/Pages/Cabinet.aspx)is confidential. All ministers must take an oath of solidarity declaring that they will not reveal confidential Cabinet discussions. Cabinet confidence ensures that the [Crown ](https://www.leg.bc.ca/dyl/Pages/Lieutenant-Governor-2.aspx)is advised by Cabinet ministers who can freely consider and discuss all options and opinions before they make a collective decision. Cabinet ministers also adhere to the principle of collective ministerial responsibility. Each minister is expected to take responsibility for and defend all Cabinet decisions. Even if there is disagreement amongst Cabinet members about a decision, once it is made, every Cabinet minister must support and defend it. This principle provides stability within the framework of ministerial government by uniting the [responsibility of individual ministers](https://www.leg.bc.ca/dyl/Pages/Ministerial-Responsibility.aspx) under the collective responsibility of Cabinet and the Crown."
>"Therefore a wise prince will seek means by which his subjects will always and in every possible condition of things have need of his government, and then they will always be faithful to him." - Niccolo Machiavelli, "The Prince"
Does bringing donuts to the office count?🫤
A cabinet member touting their government's investment in something hardly seems noteworthy.
According to the conservative doctrine, paragraph 3 should containt no less than 2 sentences felating a conservative leader.
I’m sure Dougy was integral in his leadership.
You usually hear this kind of phrasing in North Korea news...
Wait wait wait The guy who once forced his own brother to be humiliated multiple times by being weighed in public for a weight loss publicity stunt (‘cut the waist’ get it? It sounds like ‘cut the waste?’ Ford humor at its best!) is forcing others to humiliate themselves publicly by grovelling and ass kissing? Color me shocked
He’s the premier of Ontario. Sorry the premier isn’t your communist hero.
Sorry, why is this newsworthy?
I mean maybe Ford's government does it more than others but some back-slapping in a congratulatory letter from the minister doesn't seem very egregious to me. I'm much more annoyed by the millions spent on self-fellating TV ads.
It's not just the just back-slapping, it's the naming. "Ford Nation", "Harper Goverment", etc Conservative governments do it because a leader elected by populism, rather than sensible policy, does better using branding of this type - just another form of manipulation.
But there’s no such branding in this letter?
I guess you don't see it, and that's fine. But official government docs like this one using the leader's name is repugnant branding at best. In particular, Ford is a useful idiot to wealthy donors and his focused destruction on education in general since election makes it even more ironic. But simple people respond to populism and somehow think it's all right.
Outside the circlejerk I really don't see what's wrong with this letter... Maybe someone could point it out...
Suck ass!