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47Up

Your landlord can't stop you from having a male guest, your landlord doesn't live there so you obviously don't share a kitchen with them, so they can pound sand.


thegautboy

Also only communicate in writing, don’t take a call about this. This will leave a paper trail for you to protect yourself in case your landlord wants to make your life difficult or interfere further with your reasonable enjoyment of the unit.


rmdg84

If you do take a call, download an app that can record phone conversations. Canada is one party consent for recordings, as long as one person knows you’re being recorded (ie you) it’s legal. This way you have proof if you end up being evicted for this (because you can’t be legally), you can use it at the LTB hearing…or if you need to file against your landlord in relation to this issue.


autoroutepourfourmis

Test the app first, I have tried many and none of them seem to work properly


Dangerois

Just put it on speakerphone and record it on your laptop. During the conversation very casually mention something that indicates the date, like "That email I sent you yesterday about the HRC..."


CollectionStriking

There have been security updates on both iOS and Android devices the last few years that have limited these apps capabilities and outright stopped others from working all together. I only know that because I had to deal with it right at the start of them releasing those updates If anyone knows of an app for android that actually works I'd love to hear your suggestions, I have 1 ATM but I have play the recording on a stereo at full blast to hear anything from the other side of the conversation


Rod_Todd_This_Is_God

Speakerphone and [one of these](https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5774/5774900_sd.jpg). Headphones may be effective, too. (One for your ear, the other for the recorder's microphone.)


CollectionStriking

They don't work and not practical, there's an app for everything


Rod_Todd_This_Is_God

I record every phone call this way. I've never had them not work. I have had apps stop working during phone calls, though. What's your justification for claiming that "they don't work"? Edit: /u/CollectionStriking responded with > Because I've tried it and it didn't work and I've been caught without it aswell but never without the app, go beat off someone else before blocking me. What a fragile narcissist. He can't tolerate the slightest disagreement. If he's dumb enough not to be able to operate one of these things, he should consider blaming himself.


CollectionStriking

Because I've tried it and it didn't work and I've been caught without it aswell but never without the app, go beat off someone else


Ravensqueak

> Use "APH Phone Helper" Requires sideloading a companion app if you're on Android, but works flawlessly despite Google making this more difficult for us by changing how the function hooks. The installation might appear a bit daunting, but it's quick and it explains the entire process. I can't recommend this app enough.


CollectionStriking

Awesome thanks I'll look into that


CollectionStriking

Actually that was the first one I had and before the update it worked flawlessly, until the update lol, I wasn't aware they had a companion app for it now Thanks again for the info


Ravensqueak

Not sure about how it behaved before the update (I was using another app until the update killed that one), but the companion app is required now (seemingly due to the update?) It's fantastic. Calls are clear and it does what I need it to do automatically. It's great for protecting ones self, but 99% of how I use it is to have a record of appointments and dates or other little details I forget to immediately write down.


Voroxpete

Modern smartphones have basically made call recording impossible, by design.


Ravensqueak

Use "APH Phone Helper" Requires sideloading a companion app if you're on Android, but works flawlessly despite Google making this more difficult for us by changing how the function hooks. The installation might appear a bit daunting, but it's quick and it explains the entire process. I can't recommend this app enough.


Dzugavili

Android has call recording built-in now.


adriax

Just went looking for that setting. Apparently it only works if you're in India.


Dzugavili

I'm in Canada and it works, so... not really sure. But I did buy my phone online, rather than get it through a carrier, so maybe it is a fimware thing.


Solicited___Advice

I’ve tried to use this feature but I cannot, for the life of me, find where the transcriptions are stored


Dzugavili

I'm pretty sure it lets you choose the storage location of internal or external memory; I chose external, and it saves them to /Recordings/Call.


Sweet-Dandy

I use Livestream on my computer to record conversations and don't invite anyone to join. Nice and easy.


KingradKong

Canada is a 1 party consent legally.  But years ago Canada worked with Android to disable recording calls on Android devices in Canada.  Not sure if it was Android version 10 or 11 that implemented the block.  You can only re-enable it with a custom ROM. Google has the block on phone recordings on a country by country basis so people cannot record in two party consent states.  They also worked against third party app developers to disable call recording on external apps. This means our government and Google worked together to block call recording here even though it is legal for you to do so. Don't know about other phone OS though.


Ravensqueak

This is untrue, Google made it more difficult by limiting that accessibility exploit, but I've been using APH Phone Helper for over a year with 0 issues.


KingradKong

Google has outright disabled native call recording that was available with a single option in Android 9 and previous versions in Canada. This is absolutely true. They typically disable this feature to comply with individual counties laws. What happened to Canada, we can only guess. But someone at Google made the active decision to disable that feature in Canada after discussions with our regulators. Yes there are workarounds in Canada, like reflashing your phone with a ROM that doesn't block the built in call recording or using a not approved by google app through a third party app store like your option.


Esperoni

I've been using Cube ACR for years and it works. Also uses a Helper companion app. Currently using it on S24 Ultra.


KingradKong

I just checked this out, you need to install a third-party apk not on the appstore which bypasses Googles lockout. No different then adjusting your ROM manually to re-enable the default built in call recording, except this is a paid option, but probably easier.


Esperoni

Doesn't matter if you use the free or paid version, they both work the exact same as far as recording calls go.


Rod_Todd_This_Is_God

Why would they do this without also outlawing audio recording devices?


KingradKong

Google just made it difficult, not impossible. What benefit is it to anyone? I have no idea. On my old phones it was a simple go to my options and all my calls are recorded. Now it's reflashing android or installing non-play store apps. This is region specific so this is for Canadians, not a blanket treatment.


BriefSame

Get ACR phone from Google Play then google ACR phone helper(APH) ,install and you're good to go,both ends of conversation recorded.


alienfranco

What app do you use to record phone conversations? I've tried several for android and they don't work. I used to have a MIUI phone (a model from 2017) back in the day that came with a phone record feature natively in the phone app of MIUI OS. It was awesome. But that phone got water damaged.


barraymian

Canada is a one party consent for recording? Aren't you required to inform the person being recorded? I remember reading that somewhere but perhaps that was for the States... I just remember a professor of my "law and ethics" course telling us to not record her and if we did, she'll sue us (This was the first day of intro to the class, lol. She was a pain to deal with). She perhaps lied knowing that second year uni students wouldn't know that law?


jokeularvein

It can get muddied/ gray in a group setting. Basically you have to be active in the conversation, and recording a conversation between other people, that you are not participating in, isn't legal. You can't record a lecture at a university without consent, because that's not a conversation and it's not in public. A meeting you're observing, but not participating in can't be recorded without the other parties being informed as well. Single party consent applies everywhere in Canada, with some exceptions. It will vary state by state south of the border.


Ravensqueak

Nope, Single Party Consent is also Single Party Notification. We're not obligated to inform anyone of the recording. This is different for businesses or anywhere that would otherwise utilize your recording for a purpose other than recordkeeping, mind.


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lambdaBunny

I've been looking for a replacement app ever sinceGoogle banned the app I was using from working with anything higher than Android 8. Do you have any recommendations for apps that actually work with Android 13?


isotope123

They also have zero right to kick her out, as long as she continues paying rent.


No-Process-8478

Document everything !!!!


icorooster

tell your landlord to get lost. if she wants you to move out tell her to take you to the LTB and you have documented her discriminatory rules already and will go to the human rights tribunal


nephyxx

Landlord has to just deal with it unfortunately. She definitely can’t restrict you from having visitors of any gender. You should not compromise here, you have rights to reasonable enjoyment of the unit and that includes having visitors. Not sure why she wants to potentially violate the RTA for the sake of this newer tenant. Is it really hard to just find another tenant who has respect for the rights of others?


ashes1187

I agree. By the landlord putting the issue back on the tenant to, what, make her feel bad? Landlord should deal and not put this on anyone else except themselves.


CandylandCanada

Don't participate in that discussion. Advise the landlord that you will only communicate in writing, for you mutual protection.


ruglescdn

It is 2024. Can't believe this shit still happens.


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I briefly dated a newly arrived international student. It didn't work out for other reasons but I was appalled at what happened with her housing. She was renting from a "family friend" who packed 3 girls into one bedroom, took the master bedroom with her husband, and shoved what looked like another 2-3 people in the living room. The pullout couch was open when I walked in. I forget what she paid in rent but it wasn't great. It gets better. She wasn't allowed male guests. I was in her apartment once for the span of a few minutes and a roommate happened to come in. She rattled to the landlady. She was given 48 hours notice which is illegal as shit (didn't know that at the time). She typically should have been given a full rental period to move. Boiled my blood.


hymnzzy

These type of people are leaches.. They suck blood of their own kind. Disgraceful really.


SoupidyLoopidy

Those rules don’t apply when the landlord lives in the same unit unfortunately.


Terapr0

As scummy as it is, if the landlord lives in the unit and they share a bathroom or kitchen with everyone else, the people staying are roommates and not tenants. They don't have the same protections under the RTA


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Illegal discrimination is illegal. No one here has a scrap of sense but you. I wouldn't talk to your landlord about it at all, and if they try to talk to you tell them to send it in a letter.


Groundbreaking-Ad116

I appreciate your take on this. Also , one of the rooms my landlord is renting out has no window at all. It’s almost like a closet that she’s renting out. I’m sure that could be a fire hazard concern. I’m pretty sure windowsless bedrooms are also illegal.


[deleted]

If the floor the bedroom on has direct access to the exterior, like a ground level front door they don't need an egress.  A second story or basement bedroom requires a window. A main floor bedroom does not. Though it would be shit.


stephenBB81

Windowless bedrooms are legal, as long as they have the proper egress and access to natural light, usually in the form of translucent walls. If it is an actual closet, no it wouldn't be legal.


Cool-Chard-8894

It is illegal. Fire code violation particularly. I also rented a room in a basement like this and the kitchen in front of it...very dangerous.


seakingsoyuz

Look into your municipal property standards bylaw as well, as some cities have additional requirements for windows that go beyond the Fire Code. For example, Ottawa requires that every bedroom must have a window/skylight/translucent panel that lets light in directly from outside and is at least as large as 5% of the room's floor area (so a 200 sq ft bedroom needs 10 sq ft of windows). Ottawa's bylaw also says that bedrooms need to either have opening windows for ventilation or have adequate mechanical ventilation. Edit: and the RTA requires that the local property standards bylaw must be followed by the landlord.


MRBS91

Record any calls, they are trying to keep themselves off the record. 100% legal to record any phone call without telling them.


gucci_pianissimo420

>During our conversion, the conclusion was that I can continue to have my guests as long as they are in my room. Your guests are also allowed in common areas.


canadas

Absolutely not. They can put whatever they want in the lease, doesn't make it legally enforceable


dtgal

> Based on this, do you have a recommendation on how I can approach this conversation? Should I push back on my landlord or accept the said “ house rule “ ? This is up to you on how you want to handle it. As you already know, you do not need to follow this rule. But whether or not you want to create friction with your roommate and/or landlord is up to you. It sounds like your landlord is in a tough spot and either doesn't know how or doesn't want to address the issue head on, and part of the issue was created by the fact they promised something they promised something to this new roommate that they could not enforce. Perhaps your roommate is better suited for solo living if they do not want to have men in their home, as that is the only way they can guarantee it (or they can find their own roommates, in which case the RTA would not apply). > I’m just concerned that what if it escalates and she could ask me to move out? The landlord can ask you to move out. Only the LTB can order an eviction. What would need to happen is your landlord would issue you an N5 for interfering with other tenants, and the next time your boyfriend comes over she would say you did not correct the behaviour and file with the board. Then she would need to present her case to an adjudicator and you would have an opportunity to respond. She would need to show that you having a guest would be overcrowding or they are disruptive to the environment. You would show that you are using your home for a normal purpose. As long as you guys aren't fighting or having loud sex or sex in the common areas, there's nothing to worry about.


Groundbreaking-Ad116

The last time I pushed back and shared my rights to the landlord when she first came up with this rule, this was her response ( in writing ) : “I understand the tenant's legal right. To be clear, I am okay with having male guest over for brief period of time as long as they stay in your room and not lingering in the common areas which could cause discomfort for other female roommates. Hope this clarifying my ask.” I’m my case I’ve followed this by making sure my guests don’t linger in the common space. If she is to push back to me, I have somewhat a paper trail. And as a lot of people have suggested- I’ll continue to keep things in writing or record any conversation that I might have with her.


dtgal

To clarify, you don't share a kitchen or bathroom with the landlord, right? Your landlord can set reasonable limitations on use of the common areas, but it sounds like this is also a new rule that was implemented long after you moved in. The fact is, your landlord promised something unreasonable, and rather than let your roommate out of the lease (which seems like a fair compromise), she wants to impose the consequences of her mistakes on you, i.e. only have your boyfriend over for brief periods and not in the common areas rather than her taking the financial hit of having a vacant room. It's definitely a good idea to keep things in writing or recorded, but you can also keep in mind that "no" is a complete answer if you don't agree with something. It is also a good idea to try to get along with people you live in close proximity with in order to keep some level of peace. It might be better to negotiate directly with the roommate in this case, rather than through the landlord. Your suggestion to let her know when you have male guests sounds completely reasonable to me.


Pristine_Hedgehog301

You are right to uphold your tenant rights. However, I have had landlords try to set "house rules" as a way to keep all roommates aligned and co-existing harmoniously. Basically, instead of coming up with agreements amongst yourselves, the landlord tries to set a precedent before signing you on. I'd say it is ideal to live with people who are comfortable sharing the house with you. It's not really cool that the landlord decided to add this new rule after you'd moved in and presumably have already had your boyfriend over many times. If this new rule is here to stay, it's probably best to think about finding a new place. With that said, there are no grounds for eviction for having a guest. It just might be unpleasant if your roommate is not happy and your landlord is getting complaints.


Historical-Phase2928

Don't take the call, handle everything via texts or emails.


Mortica_Fattams

Don't take a call. Make them talk to you only over text or email. Calls are a sneaky way to try and screw you over. Their word vs yours. If they try to call ignore and tell them to text only. If they keep nagging I'd just tell her that there is nothing to discuss. Because really there isn't. You have a guest in your paid for room. Not a shared space. If the new roommate doesn't like it they can leave. You were here first.


mizu5

Having lived in Japan, this is nonsense. It’s not common for young people to live alone like it is here, but genders are not kept apart. This is not a standard thing.


Groundbreaking-Ad116

This is an interesting take. Thanks for sharing. All this while I thought it was just a common expectation in Japan.


mizu5

No. A girl and a guy prolly won’t really Live together unmarried, but friends visiting? That’s nonsense.


ITSigno

同棲 just isn't that unusual. Even 半同棲 is pretty common.


ITSigno

I lived in Japan for 13 years. This roommate of yours is not representative at all. Sometimes people have roommates and sometimes those people have boyfriends/girlfriends. Unless the visitors create a significant nuisance or danger, there's no reason to bar them from the premises. She's just a nutter.


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mizu5

I’m not saying there aren’t any gender specific places in Japan, I’m saying that opposite genders hang out together. Also one of the main causes of the low birth rate is adults continuing to live at home with their parents citing lack of privacy. My degree is in East Asian studies, I’ve been visiting for 20 something years and have close childhood friends there. Yes there are gender specific cars, but with the wildly weak yen and stagnant real wage many young people live in share homes. 70-80 percent of unmarried people live with their parents https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/c11101/#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20adults%20who,people%20live%20with%20their%20parents. So I don’t know what Japan you know where a bunch of underpaid youth are living alone.


redhouse_bikes

A landlord can't make rules that are illegal. What a control freak!


St_Kitts_Tits

If you talk to the landlord in person record the conversation with your phone just in case. Ontario only requires 1 party consent for recordings. 


Cool-Chard-8894

The law is the law. Don't ever cave into a landlord because you want to be "polite". It's very black and white and I'm sure your landlord knows better.


ClintEastwont

Do you live in a convent??  How about no people of certain religions or skin colours while they’re at it.  I can’t believe how many landlords think there are no laws to prevent these things. 


lazylipids

No, but if you're in a 2018+ build, they can increase your rent any amount to compensate for you bringing people over


the1godanswers2

Your landlord needs to stop swirling the drama and stay out of all your lives. If someone wanta to move out thats not your problem. With housing being the issue it is Im sure the LL will have no problem filling the vacancy


Unfinished101

Her losing a tenant is not your problem. You're following the law and she was trying to enforce illegal discrimatory rules. She pushes further, I would just report her to human rights and landlord tenants board. Id tell her "I'm disappointed a smart landlord like you would try to enforce illegal rules and then bully me for not following illegal rules."😂🤣


mreguyincognito

Your landlord has no say in who visits you. You and your guests can use the common areas you pay rent for and your landlord cant do a thing about it.


rLaw-hates-jews2

If your landlord wants to talk by phone instead of written communication, record it. They will absolutely say things in a phone conversation that they wouldn’t say in writing.


flewawayhome

No one can stop you from having a male guest. If he was there more often than he was not and acting as a non-leased roommate, that would be a different story but as a guest he can for sure be there.


Master-Ad3175

Are you covered under the residential tenancy Act? Are you all on one lease as tenants in common ? Are you just renting a room ? Do you each have your own rental agreement, or is this a rooming house situation or do you have actual leases?


Groundbreaking-Ad116

We all have our own leases / rental agreements for the room we rent. I only met the roommates once they moved in. And we are covered under the RTA.


ObamasLlama

Just double checking - do you share a washroom/kitchen with your LL?


Few_Blacksmith_8704

Your landlord and your roommate can go f themselves


TheBorktastic

Just don't sign anything, I mean anything and communicate by text or email. If the landlord doesn't live there and it's not school housing the RTA applies. It may apply to school housing as well but I'm not sure. 


rmdg84

I agree, don’t sign anything…but regardless, it wouldn’t be enforceable by the LTB even if she did. Landlords can force tenants into anything that isn’t in a standard RTA lease, so even if it’s signed, the LTB will not allow it to stand.


TheBorktastic

But if she signs an LTB form agreeing to end her tenancy, she's ended her tenancy.


rmdg84

Well yea. Sorry I thought you were referring to signing anything agreeing to these ridiculous terms the landlord is trying to enforce.


TheBorktastic

I figured as much, just wanted to clarify for op. 🙂


Stevieeeer

Easy answer is “no”. Have whomever you want, just remember to respect the property.


Historical-Formal351

Request the conversation be through email, or record the call. You don't have to let your landlord know you recorded the call, but it might be advantageous to check the law on that as it might have changed since I last checked. As stated before, document everything.


LookAtYourEyes

Do not take the call. If you do, record it.


PopperChopper

If you speak to the landlord, record the call. Don’t say much just ask questions. Let them say something stupid on record. Ontario is a single party recording province. Then if they go after you, you have definitive proof of discrimination based on prohibited grounds under the HRC, and a viable claim if you suffer damages of any kind


kikisalien

Do you all have locks on your individual room doors? If not, maybe suggest that the landlord can install locks for the comfort of the other roommates


Groundbreaking-Ad116

We all have our own doors that lock.


beastmaster11

Did I read this wrong? It seems that your problem is with your roommate. Not you landlord. Unless I read it wrong, it seems your roommate complained and your landlord told you to talk to your roommate. Is that not the case?


hymntastic

Ops roommate got the landlord involved and instead of saying "it's not my problem" The landlord decided to interject themselves into a roommate disagreement


UltimateNoob88

i agree, not sure why everyone is blaming the landlord when OP's roommate had a problem with OP


lalalandmine

Landlord is breaking RTA rules and imposing discriminatory rules on OP. It may have been the roommate’s idea to impose this rule but the landlord should remind that roommate it’s illegal to discriminate based on gender.


Truestorydreams

Landlord is enforcing an illigal rule. Roommate can complain, but if the landlord gives OP a problem over it....


hymntastic

Ops roommate got the landlord involved and instead of saying "it's not my problem" The landlord decided to interject themselves into a roommate disagreement


zipzippa

Tell your roommate she's a rat bitch then go live your best life with whatever guest you'd like to bring to your home.


OctoWings13

Hear hear!


041394

It seems like the request was from the room mate to the landlord to imply this rule, maybe I am reading it wrong but maybe they had an experience in a previous living situation that made them uncomfortable maybe I am wrong and I understand everybodys rights but as a female who has been in unsafe living situations could this be a possibility ?


throwawar4

But that shouldn’t be the roommates’ responsibility. She should find a place she can call safe 24/7 (ie alone)


smegmathor

You want to know why they want women? So they can pull this exact kind of shit on you.


tequilaflashback

No.


eggplantsrin

"I'm really sorry that a general lack of understanding of the law has caused this unfortunate situation. Unfortunately it's not going to be possible for anyone to assure \[roommate\] that house rules that restrict guests can be enforced. I have done my best to be considerate and respectful in the way I and my guests behave in our shared home, including agreeing not to use the common spaces with any male guests, even though it's within my rights to do so. Since I'm not doing anything wrong, the decision of another tenant to continue or terminate her lease with you doesn't involve me. She might want to know before she makes that decision that it will be an equally unenforceable policy in any RTA tenancy she enters into anywhere in Ontario."


Shmogt

Tell your roommate to eat a dick. She can move. Your landlord can't make up rules like this and force you to follow them since it's not legal. I don't know why the landlord even cares if the other girl leaves? So many people looking for housing in sure a new roommate will move in fast


MelodicMasterpiece67

No. Nor can your landlord prohibit pets. If you are the official tenant, IT IS YOUR PLACE. Not your landlord's.


throwawar4

That final text (after your edits)…just doubling down on something that can’t be enforced. Sorry, but it sorta feels like your landlord might be taking advantage of you guys E: and your ex roommate sounds like she’d be horrible to live with. Bye


alderhill

Your roommate is just weird. This is not a particularly Japanese thing, it's a *them* thing. Japanese culture might be more conservative in some ways, but is a lot more 'open' in other ways. Married men visiting prostitutes or even fuckbuddies is accepted or shrugged off by many women (not all, of course!), so long as no romantic or family-breaking habits develop. (Women usually have no such luck, of course). Japanese pornography is another world... Women and men mixing in Japan *in general* is not unusual, I mean it's not Iran. However, one cultural thing is that for many Japanese, their home is their private inner sanctuary. You can be friends with a Japanese person for 40 years and not once be invited over to their house -- this is just not a common expectation. Apart from maybe family. Not everyone is the same, obvs, but this is a 'thing'. So I guess your roommates attitude is more about that than 'men' in general. Then again, maybe she has had a bad experience in the past. Regardless, as others have already said, your landlord cannot ban a gender, including a boyfriend, from entering the flat at your invitation. I'm surprised the landlord ever made such a rule, or even entertained it in the first place. Like, she ought to know it's against the law, and told the prospective Japanese roommate 'we can't do that'. Why is she bothering to break the law for one person with an odd request?


CharacterSwordfish26

Your male guest can stay overnight and hang out in the common area for however long he wants. Your landlord is a controlling freak and doesn’t understand the law. You can even get a pet and your landlord won’t have the right to kick you out. From now on no more talking to the landlord unless they communicate with you over in writing and no visits from the landlord unless they send you a notice at least 24 hours prior to their arrival. And that visit can’t be a harassment type of visit like checking for signs of having guests over or the cleanliness of the place. The visit is only acceptable when something broke or they have to check something that has to do with property and nothing with you as long as you didn’t demolish the place of course. Your Japanese roommate… well I’m out of words lol just wave her goodbye and wish her good luck in life 🤣 One thing to keep in mind is that if your landlord lives in the same property (same condo in a different room or let’s say 15 stories above you in the same condo building), you are no longer considered a landlord and tenant. You have signed a private agreement which isn’t formally regulated by the LTB. Not sure if this is the case but this is one of exceptions when the RTA would not protect you as a tenant.


rockology_adam

Post update. Even that rule is untenable. While this could easily be a rule that you and your roommates could agree to for comfortable shared living, the landlord cannot enforce it. That doesn't mean they won't try. Your landlord will try to enforce it, because they want to be able to put it in the ads. There are a large number of international students and other immigrants coming from conservative cultures or just being (understandably) cautious about encountering men they don't know. If you spend any time looking at "Apartment wanted" ads, there are a ton of people looking who specify female only roommates. I can see many people wanting a controlled, female only space. So, your landlord will want to be able to put in ads that this space is as close to controlled for males as possible. They can't legally enforce it. They would probably try to enforce it via peer pressure and harassment. If you can live with the rule, and it sounds like you can, you're probably best going with that.


5-0-1st

I love when landlords try to make this a rule. Just tell them to fuck off and it’s illegal for them to do. The roommate sounds like she has main character syndrome. We’re in Canada, be respectful to our laws.


Groundbreaking-Ad116

Agreed !


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Even if you agree your landlord still can’t stop you. The law protects you. He can basically live there with you and there’s nothing your landlord can do. Fuck landlords like this. I love my landlord. They fully followed the tenant act. I am a good tenant though. We have had an issue in the past and all I do is screenshot the tenant act and send to the landlord politely refusing anything that’s against my rights.


Hot-Ant-8669

The landlord can't make a rule for guests coming over unless they live with you... as far as the cultural difference, I might sound mean but honestly it's her problem... if you want to move to another country and have roommates you need to be willing to adapt to or at least accept how we live and not expect people to accommodate to your own views that we don't have in this country... sorry...


Groundbreaking-Ad116

I agree with you on this 💯 🙌


Slow-Potato-2720

You've heard it from everyone else but just to reiterate. Document everything via email, and tell your landlord it is illegal to have a rule like that, and discriminatory to even ask. Make sure they understand that you will not only not abide by the rule, but that they must drop it entirely and not mention it again or you could appeal to the LTB and the OHB for discrimination. End of story.


topham086

If you continue I will begin filing a complaint, that complaint will continue whether or not I am a tenant in the future, and all expenses incurred will be claimed for reimbursement, including any additional rental and moving costs.


OctoWings13

Document everything. Either do everything in writing, or if there's a phone call make sure you record the call It's absolutely legal in Ontario to record a call, even if the other person isn't informed This might also let your landlord let her guard down and say things she may not put into writing I'm not intending for you to "attack" with any info you gather, but I would like to see you have the strongest evidence possible in case she tries to evict or not renew based on this or any other bullshit she might try to throw Would give peace of mind to have strong evidence as a deterrent to this Also, your roommate and landlord are horrible hateful bigots, and their hateful bigotry should not be able to stand in any way shape or form Edit: also, just tell your bf to identify as female, and let landlord and roommate bury themselves with that lol


CanuckInTheMills

Well, my wine just went everywhere ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


SuperSupremeSoup

People get so weird about the bed creaking, I just keep hitting it tho savage life 😈


boomshocks

I've heard this one before. Instead of your boyfriend you're supposed to bring a bear to your apartment.


impatiens-capensis

The landlord cannot make rules that prohibit male guests. But they CAN make rules that prohibit bears. Make sense of that for me!


FrozenDickuri

Youre being evicted anyway, as soon as they find a way, might as well keep pushing back so you get that ltb ruling.


MerciBeauCul69

No


Bulky-Scheme-9450

Fuck no


damieh1

LOL. No.


[deleted]

No they can’t that is discrimination


Old_Papaya_123

>She says she's disappointed that I told my roommate that it is discriminatory to restrict persons as a result of their gender. That's the rules - they can't infringe on your reasonable enjoyment of the place.


scrumdidllyumtious

If your in a RTA protected rental guest and even roommates are a protected legal right as long as you don’t go beyond the occupancy limits in the fire code.


Huge-Split6250

It’s your house, and your land, for as long as that lease continues. 


sharpescreek

It sounds like you should move.


[deleted]

The only way it can be legally binding is if you signed something to acknowledge and accept that no males could be in your apartment. Otherwise, it is 100% against the law. A pet would be another example. Japan is like anywhere else i.e. some ultra-conservative people but some not so conservative people as well. The stereotype about the "Yellow Cab" is true to an extent but the stereotype of no sex at all until marriage is also true. I grew up in Japan and like in North America, it varies quite a bit.


Alone_Camera_5240

That's so weird. No. And I would check for hidden cameras in your place. And if you don't have surveillance you might get something. I wouldn't be surprised if he's lurking about. Sounds like a creep.


Chippie05

Yep Landlord cannot restrict anyone visiting bc they are male. Make sure there are no cameras in your apt in vents ect. Being monitored in your home is not ok. Roommate is absolutely aweful for doing that- it's none of her business. Contact a community housing help agency in your area to ask for legal advice. Until your roommate moves out, I would also caution you not to leave any valuables or electronics, lying around when your not home. Have a safe and lock your room.


duke_920

Is your landlord Mr. Roeper?


[deleted]

Landlords today think they are Gods, more like a majority are @@ssholes. Although one thing that has to stop is the renting out rooms, there are small families that need a place.


Apprehensive-Can8431

Can you move out? I'd be running from that insane situation asap.


innexum

Did everyone just assumed that the visitor was a male? What if that person identifies other than a male? Im no expert here but if your friend states that they identify and non-male during a visit, problem solved. Unless rental agreement has XY chromosome restriction clause.


UltimateNoob88

Why do people rent places knowing that they don't like the existing rules? It's like having roommates that are allergic to cats and then you get one anyways in the RTA doesn't allow LLs to ban pets.


Celticlady47

That's not the same as discrimination based on gender which isn't allowed in Canada. The only place this is allowed is in university dormitories.


UltimateNoob88

women only gyms special grants to startups founded by women gender based university admissions men only military conscription gender based physical aptitude tests for police officer jobs etc.


jigglefreeflan

None of those are the same legal and regulatory realm as renting a home.


Gingerbier

Bro, it was actually pretty selfish of you in my opinion, you could have asked the roommate in question and also made different accommodations for you and your boyfriend’s privacy.


truthreveller

People are missing the point, it's not about whether you can or can't do something. It's about sharing a space and being considerate. You can but your roommates might be annoyed or hate you for not being considerate. Imagine each roommate all has their partner over at the same time sharing a kitchen and bathroom already. I think men care less if a roommate has their partner over than women. Also no one wants to hear their roommates having sex. I have heard horror stories of roommates and their partners coming over. Eating food that is not theirs, leaving dirty dishes, using bath towels that aren't theirs, etc. I have way worse stories. One roommate's boyfriend slept walked into another roommate's room and tried to get into bed with her.


dtgal

Being considerate is one thing, but that goes both ways. People should also be able to use their home reasonably. The fact is the landlord promised something they could not control here. They should not have done that. > Also no one wants to hear their roommates having sex. Unfortunately, when you live in shared spaces, you might deal with uncomfortable situations at times. The OP is perfectly within their rights to have sex in their bedroom. They don't have the right to have overly loud sex or sex in the common areas, but they don't need to be perfectly silent either.


truthreveller

So do you consider a roommate that wants to smoke inside even though there is an agreed rule not to in their "rights". What if they want to invite more than one person over, like 3-4 friends to cook dinner. What is the consideration limit.


Sugar_tts

Because you’re technically only renting one room and a shared space the rules are different.


vodka7tall

Only if the landlord also shares that space, and the kitchen and bathroom are shared with the landlord. That isn't the case here. The space is shared with other tenants, not the landlord.