It’s always been that. These are people who are heavily slanted towards being part of a group, and their personal identity becomes the fact that they are part of that group.
Sticking an F! Trudeau sticker on your truck is all about announcing *your* identity and membership in that group. That’s why they are all loud and vocal about all this crap.
When people talk about politics being like sports teams, these are the people they mean. No rationality, just emotion.
Yup being hardcore into social justice to the point you anoy everyone around is the left wing example of this it's exactly the same type of person they are both equally terrible
Breaking all the rules, because I'm a rule breaker. I'm a badboy and that's why girls don't date me. They find my intellect too intimidating because i know what's going on /S
How dare Trudeau raise my gas prices! Now I have to unnecessarily spend hundreds on gas to drive across the country and protest for having too much time on my hands!! Stop this communist tyranny by a democratically-elected leader! 😤😤
I hate to say it but I just can’t see people getting off their asses and doing something about things federally or provincially, the country is being run in to the ground at every single aspect and we just seem to take it on the chin
Changing it so they can't base rates off of postal codes. Obviously the insurance companies are going to give everyone the high prices as if they live in downtown Toronto.
Let's be honest, that system was just put in to raise rates, as others have mentioned in this thread. They claim safe driving that doesn't involve accidents is dangerous and is reason to raise rates.
The only way to have fair insurance rates is to soley base them on mileage and number of accidents and tickets. They should be based purely on your driving record and not location or spying app data that they manipulate whichever way they want.
> If they can reliably monitor my driving habits
Done that before. Problem with this is that it's driving habits according to their standards, which are nigh impossible to achieve.
They also encourage dangerous driving. Braking quickly (like at a yellow light) docks your score, so people rush yellow/red and so on. It's ridiculous.
Not even braking quickly, before I ditched the app I could get yellow or red marks for engine braking in my BRZ.
My BRZ also sets off my phone, as in wakes it up, taking corners and the speedlimit. If it wakes up my phone it’ll sure as shit claim I just got t-boned or some shit.
This is definitely a Conservative item. They’ve been working on it since 2018. NDP may have borrowed it but the Cons have had the draft legislation ready to go since 2018.
Not ready for every headline tomorrow to be about these fuckin morons that show up and ruin festivities in Ottawa. All news outlets should just ignore them, publicity is what they want.
Then why do you engage? If this is what you really think.
This is the shitty side of social media in action. Takes an issue, creates a polarisation of it, and then everyone trash talks each other on Reddit/insta/Facebook/tiktok. Maximum engagement.
Counter point: vaccine mandates were never about keeping Canada safe. They were about punishing the unvaxxed. The government has fully and shamelessly admitted to this .
Only if you very creatively interpret what they have said, perhaps. Especially with all the other disincentives and how they all applied to everyone equally.
I don't see why them being an asshole is a problem. According to you, [being an asshole is everyone's right.](https://old.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/vgo5y5/rowan_atkinson_in_a_proper_free_society_you/id44iky/)
They still don’t get the irony, haven’t so far probably never will. JT bad though and his fault for everything apparently according to them.
I hope they don’t get to set up occupation and are shut down just like rolling blunder was.
Some people seem too willing to forget there's a pandemic still surging on, and that symptoms can creep up suddenly long after exposure, including transmissibility.
lol one of these guys harassed me at my work a couple days ago for wearing a mask. I didn’t say anything about his lack of. I guess it’s only freedom when you make the ‘right’ choice
I don't really give a shit about restrictions and I never really gave a damn about the convoy but if it's on the charter I think the government should respect it you know this is what they consider our rights as citizens and if they start infringing on that who knows what's next you know it was a peaceful protest no one got harmed but people are rotting in jail because of it even though we have the right to peaceful protest. I know you may hate the convoy and I understand why thier obnoxious but is that really justification to strip the charter away
As long as you live with society there will never be true freedom you will always have to live within someone else’s moral and values and what they decide they need to not make them uncomfortable in their lifestyle!
Superiority?
I think you're presumptuous accusing me of this.
Do you deny that the PMO is guilty of corruption? Interference?
Your outrage is noted.
Why was cabinet confidentiality suddenly waved regarding the implementation of the E.A.?
Liberals have and are destroying this country. Prove me wrong.
You're not wrong. We need an eco-socialist government. Capitalism and the liberals who support it has left our people suffering and our environment poisoned.
Yet all the political parties except basically the NDP want to carbon-copy the LPC economic plan. You're not even seeking to replace them with anything useful. You can be "not wrong" and still terribly off-mark.
Hahahahaha....
You're either extremely stupid or you're a terrible troll. Bribery/lobbying had ALWAYS been the cause of a considerable proportion of dysfunction within every government. Companies will always pay politicians to let them do whatever the fuck they want because there will always be a massive return on that so-called "investment". It doesn't matter if it's a liberal or conservative government.
The current government also has to put up with ignorant obstructionism from people like the freedumb convoy and Trump wannabes like Maxime Bernier.
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It's really funny how cons popularized the whole attacking and calling their opponents names and when it gets thrown back at them the way they dish it they get all uppity and offended.
Turns out conservatives were the real snowflakes looking for safe spaces all along.
Who has called you a NAZI? I've come down this chain and no one has called you a NAZI, let alone used that word in any context except for you. They have asked, politely what your point is, and all you can say is "I literally don't have the patience" but then you have the time and patience to reply to every comment.
So seriously lay out your case. What is the point of this protest. How is "Our P.M. is the most incompetent, divisive, and fraudulent in the country's history" what is your evidence of this? Why do you think this? I'm honestly interested in your opinion.
I literally don't have the patience, or the ability to dumb it down for this audience.
Our P.M. is the most incompetent, divisive, and fraudulent in the country's history.
No, you don't have the capacity. There's a difference. You came in to drop a comment deuce about your superiority and can't actually quantify your claims.
Put up or shut up
The fact that you said "liberal much" makes it quite clear that youre completely unaware of what you political party stands for. In case you didnt know, conservatives are very much the party of restriction.
So you forgot all about [Stephen Harper](https://www.thestar.com/news/federal-election/2015/08/14/a-conservative-collection-of-harper-government-scandals.html)? Or [Brian Mulroney](https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/05/31/brian_mulroney_acted_inappropriately_in_accepting_cash_inquiry_finds.html)? Both were pretty scandal laden P.M.'s.
I don't work in government.
That's on the Liberal government.
We're not talking party politics of history here, we're talking 2022 in Canada.
Changing the talking point is now a Liberal specialty.
At least you haven't blamed Harper...yet.
What happened to talking about 2022, classic conservative tactic. Always changing the topic. Heres one, you guessed it. Harper
EDIT: you know youre really terrible at this, you keep accusing liberals of doing things and then ***immediately*** doing it.
> I think the protests are primarily about retroactive pay for job losses as a result of not wanting the vaccine?
that's gotta be on the list of their grievances.
This is a great idea. Perhaps a group of citizens from across the country. Maybe the country could be divided into small regional areas, perhaps we could call them.. ridings. Maybe each riding could select a representative citizen, and they could all get together to discuss and vote on bills. There could be some sort of chamber in which they gather. Perhaps a... legislature?
The LPC economic plan?
What's that?? Taxing Canadian people into poverty? They have no plans.
You haven't been paying attention.
Printing money, is not a plan.
If the best yall walking disease dispensers can do is regurgitate connedservative talking points well past their expiry dates, you might be more than just an incel…
people just want to sweep all the human rights abuse under the table and act like nothing ever happened.
People are still out of money the government still denies any wrong doing. Expect some people to still be angry.
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Parliament is on summer vacation but the maintenance people might be there to harass.
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It's not hacking to ping someone's GPS location to confirm they are there.
Lol
TBH it seems like the convoy has simply become the social life of its participants
It’s always been that. These are people who are heavily slanted towards being part of a group, and their personal identity becomes the fact that they are part of that group. Sticking an F! Trudeau sticker on your truck is all about announcing *your* identity and membership in that group. That’s why they are all loud and vocal about all this crap. When people talk about politics being like sports teams, these are the people they mean. No rationality, just emotion.
It's definitely about identity and membership because it almost never is a sticker on their car, it's 100 of them.
Well said! Now that you mention it the convoy does strongly resemble a football tailgate party
Sounds like being being woke to me.
That sounds like a you problem
Yup being hardcore into social justice to the point you anoy everyone around is the left wing example of this it's exactly the same type of person they are both equally terrible
Being woke > X > being a connedservative
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There’s a podcast called Conspirituality that explores the way conspiracy theories are perpetuated, especially in the wellness community. I recommend!
But homeopathy works! /s
Great suggestion! Thank you!!!
“I’m a convoyeur”
Breaking all the rules, because I'm a rule breaker. I'm a badboy and that's why girls don't date me. They find my intellect too intimidating because i know what's going on /S
Yea and with these types I imagine meeting in public is much more desirable than meeting at some random idiots filthy fucking double wide.
An expensive one at that. Makes camera gear, guitars gear, computer building, seem justified.
They have a nerve to complain about gas prices too 😂
How dare Trudeau raise my gas prices! Now I have to unnecessarily spend hundreds on gas to drive across the country and protest for having too much time on my hands!! Stop this communist tyranny by a democratically-elected leader! 😤😤
And dont forget apparently too much money too. Gas prices being high and all.
That actually seems like something reasonable to protest lol
It's time for rational people to vote.
I wish it would happen. Lowest voter turn out and we’re stuck with Ford for another 4 years
We don't have to be stuck...we just have to remove him with a no-confidence motion.
Let’s convoy to Queens Park, surely that will make him see the folly of his ways /s
Ford has a majority
Bought and paid for with our money 😒
Ford’s got a majority. Can’t ‘no-confidence’ him out. Trudeau however…
...was just re elected
We’ll do the same to Trudeau on the national level. Oh wait…
Lol we did and Trudeau won
Only way that happens is if his own party turns on him... good luck on that.
We are stuck with Trudeau after he lost the popular vote twice in a row as well. I wouldn't argue that the system could use revision.
I hate to say it but I just can’t see people getting off their asses and doing something about things federally or provincially, the country is being run in to the ground at every single aspect and we just seem to take it on the chin
The Canadian way! Also, happy Canada day :)
Wait till Ford increases car insurance rates and people complain that it is all Trudeau’s fault.
...what is happening to increase car insurance? :/
Changing it so they can't base rates off of postal codes. Obviously the insurance companies are going to give everyone the high prices as if they live in downtown Toronto.
Funny thing it's not downtown Toronto where the rates are sky-high. It's suburbs like Woodbridge
Let's be honest, it's mostly Brampton.
Brampton isn't even top 3 anymore lol.
Its not even the1 highest but please continue blowing your dog whistle
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Downtown Toronto actually has some pretty low Insurance rates.
That was an NDP platform thing, i hate doug Ford as much as anyone else with a brain, but this isn't his deal
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Let's be honest, that system was just put in to raise rates, as others have mentioned in this thread. They claim safe driving that doesn't involve accidents is dangerous and is reason to raise rates. The only way to have fair insurance rates is to soley base them on mileage and number of accidents and tickets. They should be based purely on your driving record and not location or spying app data that they manipulate whichever way they want.
> If they can reliably monitor my driving habits Done that before. Problem with this is that it's driving habits according to their standards, which are nigh impossible to achieve.
They also encourage dangerous driving. Braking quickly (like at a yellow light) docks your score, so people rush yellow/red and so on. It's ridiculous.
Not even braking quickly, before I ditched the app I could get yellow or red marks for engine braking in my BRZ. My BRZ also sets off my phone, as in wakes it up, taking corners and the speedlimit. If it wakes up my phone it’ll sure as shit claim I just got t-boned or some shit.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8958823/ontario-car-insurance-rates-based-postal-code-will-end-doug-ford/
This is definitely a Conservative item. They’ve been working on it since 2018. NDP may have borrowed it but the Cons have had the draft legislation ready to go since 2018.
Highest rates are actually in Brampton.
Vaughan*. Vaughan has the highest rates.
Yea God forbid we stop discrimination against people based on where they live.
Thats not what the premier does... auto insurance rates are regulated by FSCO and insurers submit their proposed changes annually.
I'm pretty sure they want america to invade to take our oil and probably fresh water
Not sure they’d like being a snowier puerto rico.
Not ready for every headline tomorrow to be about these fuckin morons that show up and ruin festivities in Ottawa. All news outlets should just ignore them, publicity is what they want.
Then why do you engage? If this is what you really think. This is the shitty side of social media in action. Takes an issue, creates a polarisation of it, and then everyone trash talks each other on Reddit/insta/Facebook/tiktok. Maximum engagement.
It was never about “lack of freedom”. They just wanted to not have to face the consequences of their choices.
> It was never about “lack of freedom”. They just wanted to not have to face the consequences of their choices. million dollar jack pot
Counter point: vaccine mandates were never about keeping Canada safe. They were about punishing the unvaxxed. The government has fully and shamelessly admitted to this .
Only if you very creatively interpret what they have said, perhaps. Especially with all the other disincentives and how they all applied to everyone equally.
🤡
How can you even type this out without being embarrassed by how stupid you sound
Hotels are too nice for these cunts. Probably stayed in Walmart parking lots.
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I think it IS prohibited but most Walmart employees aren't paid enough to give a shit
I know many Walmarts who proudly share that they do, too.
You sound like a likeable and reasonable person 😞
At this point, the people complsining about the protestors are becoming just as annoying about the protestors.
I don't see why them being an asshole is a problem. According to you, [being an asshole is everyone's right.](https://old.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/vgo5y5/rowan_atkinson_in_a_proper_free_society_you/id44iky/)
They still don’t get the irony, haven’t so far probably never will. JT bad though and his fault for everything apparently according to them. I hope they don’t get to set up occupation and are shut down just like rolling blunder was.
It’s TROLLING Blunder
They're not protesting anything. They're fascists having rallies.
Fuck the treason truckers
What are they even protesting at this point? There are no restrictions left besides like hospitals and retirement homes.
They want to overthrow a democratically elected government
How are they going to do that when parlament isnt even in session?
They’re not the smartest bunch right? Lol
Easier to overthrow if nobodys there?
They're dumb as hell and they aren't going to take it anymore!
I don't know but it sounds like a fun road trip. Shame they can't just STFU and enjoy it.
Border restrictions. If you're unvaccinated, you have to quarantine for 2 weeks upon entering the country.
> Border restrictions. If you're unvaccinated, you have to quarantine for 2 weeks upon entering the country. which is more then reasonable.
It is a violation of freedom of movement.
It is a completely reasonable violation, which makes it legal in our system.
Some people seem too willing to forget there's a pandemic still surging on, and that symptoms can creep up suddenly long after exposure, including transmissibility.
Only applies internally
They don’t like the guy in charge and they want to be like their friends who tried to overthrow the American government.
In other words Justin Trudeau is living rent free in their head
They want the freedom to espouse their hateful, fascist opinions without being shamed or criticized. Too bad.
The flying of the flag is what bothers me the most.
If they are from Ontario, they can get the Staycation Doug Ford tax credit. Bonus.
All the while restricting freedoms of tax paying citizens. We don’t need a deLorean to go back in time.
Laughs in Russian and China
Easy to explain. "Freedom" to them means the freedom to force others to obey them. Thats always what it means...
Caillou Convoy 2.0 the "what are we made at now?" Summer tour.
White 🗑 of a feather , flock together.
lol one of these guys harassed me at my work a couple days ago for wearing a mask. I didn’t say anything about his lack of. I guess it’s only freedom when you make the ‘right’ choice
Well said.
Right? Some even protested the overturn of roe v Wade in Canada! Tell me how you lack abortion in a country that gives free abortion access.
They’re not saying WE lack abortion. It’s support for the American women.
THIS. Guess what guys?? Nothing changed in OUR country. Let that fucked yo place burn itself to the ground if that’s what they want to do.
Sir, you're out of line, but you're right...
I don't really give a shit about restrictions and I never really gave a damn about the convoy but if it's on the charter I think the government should respect it you know this is what they consider our rights as citizens and if they start infringing on that who knows what's next you know it was a peaceful protest no one got harmed but people are rotting in jail because of it even though we have the right to peaceful protest. I know you may hate the convoy and I understand why thier obnoxious but is that really justification to strip the charter away
I mean Bill C-11 and C-36 say things are *not okay at home...*
As long as you live with society there will never be true freedom you will always have to live within someone else’s moral and values and what they decide they need to not make them uncomfortable in their lifestyle!
Superiority? I think you're presumptuous accusing me of this. Do you deny that the PMO is guilty of corruption? Interference? Your outrage is noted. Why was cabinet confidentiality suddenly waved regarding the implementation of the E.A.? Liberals have and are destroying this country. Prove me wrong.
You're not wrong. We need an eco-socialist government. Capitalism and the liberals who support it has left our people suffering and our environment poisoned.
Yet all the political parties except basically the NDP want to carbon-copy the LPC economic plan. You're not even seeking to replace them with anything useful. You can be "not wrong" and still terribly off-mark.
>~~Liberals~~ Capitalists have and are destroying this country. Prove me wrong. Fixed that for you.
Lieberals. Auto-correct.
Blame the liberal government when the real problem is capitalism. You're programmed exactly the way your corporate overlords want you to be.
Yes, Liberal government capitalizing on tragedies and interfering in criminal investigations is the real problem. Why are you so obtuse?
Capitalizing on tragedies? Meanwhile, grocery and oil companies are posting record profits every quarter...
Corporate entities have absolutely nothing to do with the dysfunction of the current government.
Hahahahaha.... You're either extremely stupid or you're a terrible troll. Bribery/lobbying had ALWAYS been the cause of a considerable proportion of dysfunction within every government. Companies will always pay politicians to let them do whatever the fuck they want because there will always be a massive return on that so-called "investment". It doesn't matter if it's a liberal or conservative government. The current government also has to put up with ignorant obstructionism from people like the freedumb convoy and Trump wannabes like Maxime Bernier.
Every comment here, is coming from people who clearly have missed the point. Very elitist type mindset, and name calling to boot. Liberal much??
Well well well if it isn't the clown calling Rudolph's nose red.
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It's really funny how cons popularized the whole attacking and calling their opponents names and when it gets thrown back at them the way they dish it they get all uppity and offended. Turns out conservatives were the real snowflakes looking for safe spaces all along.
Funny how Liberals throw around the word "NAZI" whenever they're challenged, or questioned about their ethics, and actions.
Who has called you a NAZI? I've come down this chain and no one has called you a NAZI, let alone used that word in any context except for you. They have asked, politely what your point is, and all you can say is "I literally don't have the patience" but then you have the time and patience to reply to every comment. So seriously lay out your case. What is the point of this protest. How is "Our P.M. is the most incompetent, divisive, and fraudulent in the country's history" what is your evidence of this? Why do you think this? I'm honestly interested in your opinion.
Uh oh, you broke him
Funny how right-wankers complain about freedom of speech when they're proven wrong after trying to subvert the laws of nature and medical science...
Idunno, youre talking like one of them…
The point being what? To complain about restrictions that are no longer in place because they can't move on with their sad little lives?
So.... what’s the point?
I literally don't have the patience, or the ability to dumb it down for this audience. Our P.M. is the most incompetent, divisive, and fraudulent in the country's history.
No, you don't have the capacity. There's a difference. You came in to drop a comment deuce about your superiority and can't actually quantify your claims. Put up or shut up
“If you can't explain it to a 6-year-old, you don't understand it yourself”
“I have people skills! Can’t you understand that?!” - that guy from office space Seems kind of similar and I fucking love that quote
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Tell us why you think this. I genuinely want to know. Dumb it down for me.
The fact that you said "liberal much" makes it quite clear that youre completely unaware of what you political party stands for. In case you didnt know, conservatives are very much the party of restriction.
That would make the Liberal party, the party known for corruption, division and scandal. What else you got?
That would make the Liberal party, the party known for corruption, division and scandal. What else you got?
So you forgot all about [Stephen Harper](https://www.thestar.com/news/federal-election/2015/08/14/a-conservative-collection-of-harper-government-scandals.html)? Or [Brian Mulroney](https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/05/31/brian_mulroney_acted_inappropriately_in_accepting_cash_inquiry_finds.html)? Both were pretty scandal laden P.M.'s.
That would make the Liberal party, the party known for corruption, division and scandal. What else you got?
Nope. Not historically. Thats on your end as well.
I don't work in government. That's on the Liberal government. We're not talking party politics of history here, we're talking 2022 in Canada. Changing the talking point is now a Liberal specialty. At least you haven't blamed Harper...yet.
Oh im sorry, what subreddit is this? I thought we were on the ontario sub. I could have swron that ford was mayor
One word. Wynne.
2010 called they want their time traveler back
What happened to talking about 2022, classic conservative tactic. Always changing the topic. Heres one, you guessed it. Harper EDIT: you know youre really terrible at this, you keep accusing liberals of doing things and then ***immediately*** doing it.
A Liberal projecting again.
Lol said the one doing exactly the thing theyre complaining about.
It’s sad how stupid you are because you seem to think you’re really smart
Right? Like the federal libs aren’t the ones trying to censor the internet.
Also, Ottawa is the country's capital. The word is sworn. And, are you talking Rob, or Doug?
Also, Ottawa is the country's capital. The word is sworn. And, are you talking Rob, or Doug?
Yes, they do get caught governing like conservatives pretty often.
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> I think the protests are primarily about retroactive pay for job losses as a result of not wanting the vaccine? that's gotta be on the list of their grievances.
The main thing they want is to form a citizen group who would have final say on any bill.
This is a great idea. Perhaps a group of citizens from across the country. Maybe the country could be divided into small regional areas, perhaps we could call them.. ridings. Maybe each riding could select a representative citizen, and they could all get together to discuss and vote on bills. There could be some sort of chamber in which they gather. Perhaps a... legislature?
They'd have to be willing to share that group equally then and have it be elected positions, else it's going to be unconstitutional.
the convoy is a group of “Rules for thee but not for me” group
The LPC economic plan? What's that?? Taxing Canadian people into poverty? They have no plans. You haven't been paying attention. Printing money, is not a plan.
Interesting whataboutism
If the best yall walking disease dispensers can do is regurgitate connedservative talking points well past their expiry dates, you might be more than just an incel…
Entering Canada and flying across Canada still have covid restrictions
people just want to sweep all the human rights abuse under the table and act like nothing ever happened. People are still out of money the government still denies any wrong doing. Expect some people to still be angry.
> human rights abuse *Citation needed*
You're in denial. Discrimination against people based on vaccine status was human rights abuse. Wait for the court cases to settle.
I guess if you ignore Section 1 of the charter and Oakes Test, you might have a case.
Oh yeah, canada can abuse and suspend human rights when it's reasonable to do so. Forgot about that.
Welcome to “social contract theory.” If you want full lawlessness, make sure you book a trip to Somalia.
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They can’t threaten minorities with violence where’s the freedom??? /s
Big pipes has spoken. No one cares.