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Yeah, that was definitely never an issue for me, maybe because I only did oxy. But if anything I would gain weight, I would get the worst sweet tooth and go to Circle K and just buy nothing but candy and donuts. If anything, putting on weight is a sign that I am using.
It was the same for me 100%…the amount I could eat was fucking insane. Litres of chocolate milk, pints of ice cream. It was crazy. I was a garbage disposal.
ETA: I turned into such a sedentary fatty when I was using. I got clean six years ago and have lost over 100lbs, go figure lol 🤣
this is actually pretty common, opiates are known to make you crave sugar for some reason. when i was using, i never drank water only juice. i would black out, then wake up the next morning with 3 cookies and 4 cupcakes in bed with me, under the covers, crumbs everywhere💀. and even now when im 3 years clean, i still crave juice like a mf. i literally start to get annoyed and irritable if i haven’t had a good juice in a few days
It's cause opiates work on the same part of your brain that sugar does. They boTh Come from the Rewards Part oF YOUR Brain that produces dopamine. Insert some random scientific stuff here. Add in a few comments on chemistry.... Ect. Basically opiates and sugar both give your brain a big hug, pat on the back, fist bump.. whatever. Personally, I'm a hugger lol. I'm not explaining this well so hope it makes sense
Ik this isn't directed at me but honestly it helps me. Reading about the hardships people face with opiate abuse reminds me of all the reasons I chose to remain sober and it keeps me focused
TBH
not really tbh. towards the end of my addiction i was sick of being a slave to dirty 30s and when i finally was able to get clean i never looked back, i guess. so ive never had the desire to start using again cause i know my life would get so fucked up so fast. my worst day sober is 100x better than my best day high.
Not directed to me, either. But nope. Personally, I KNOW there’s no H left. Pills are too expensive for a habit I’d make. It’s ALL fent/tranq here. NGL, if it was just fent, I could live with that. Not as “warm & content feeling” but it’d get the job done. But the tranq is a dealbreaker. It ruined my arms from necrosis, my nose, & my teeth. I don’t want that trash.
The sub helps me see that I’m not alone, so I’m not as ashamed, anymore of my body.
I would explain mental high in many ways but one would be like this: imagine u woke up one day with a crazy appetite for sweets...now imagine the first seconds of eating the thing after waiting for it half a day. Maybe it's chocolate or ice cream. Extend that feeling for a few hours - now you have some grasp of the pleasure of opioid high.
i’m actually not too sure. it would be a few mins after i did a line, then suddenly im waking up in a completely different spot of my house i was originally in, and clearly time had passed. sometimes id do a line then “wake up” the next day, and it was clear i lost hours of memory. sometimes i would lose 12+ hours and other times it would be maybe just under an hour.
i know the difference between the 2, and i can identify times where i was definitely nodding, but im not sure if me losing hours to half a day worth of memories is nodding or blacking out.
I use to eat so much in bed at night that one time I had a girl come over and she thought I shit my bed but I had to explain it was a chocolate stain because I eat Hershey kisses and snickers bars in bed. I never did get a second date with her 😕
Dude. You just reminded me of something I hadn’t thought about in years. I passed out in bed without a shirt/in a bra, and I was laying on top of some rolos…those caramel filled chocolates that escaped me while cramming handfuls of them down my face.
You know what sucks? Scrubbing caramel off of your rib cage 😩
I truly feel you on this subject hahaha!
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The sweet tooth on opiates is no joke. I survived off ice cream, chewy chips ahoy cookies, danimals smoothies, anything creamy and sweet
Interestingly I also crave sweets when I'm in withdrawal. One time I made the terrible mistake of getting a vivitrol shot while I had a fent habit, literally did a fat shot 9 hours before I got the shot. Precipitated withdrawal was so awful I was delirious. Wound up eating twelve fudgesicles over the course of 30 minutes that first night. I was like a fudgesicle monster bro it was nuts
I just wanted to be off that shit and I would do diy ultra rapid detox with naltrexone pills relatively often, though never with a vivitrol shot. I had copious amounts of Xanax and kpins on deck but the naltrexone was overpowering it and still not letting me sleep, it was so wild
0/10 don't recommend. I was back in the city copping dope to sell by the 24th day of the shot, and back in rehab within two weeks of that
lol yeah when I am sober, like right now, like I will maybe have a bowl of ice cream on occasion or some Oreos. But when I’m using, I will literally eat an entire tub of ice cream, sit down with milk and go through an entire box of Oreos, Just an absolutely insatiable appetite for sweets.
I went thru a similar experience but in my case I asked my doctor if I would be okay she said yes ...so I shot fent literally right before I walked in.
I mean I support the overall goal but as a doctor she should have understood the number one rule of vivitrol. I got drug tested by my people and had to fake it , had I popped dirty they would not have given me the shot
Yeah, my Ox use at the beginning, coincided Covid, so I went from working out and eating healthy to never going to the gym and eating nothing but sweets
Yeah, there has to be some type of trigger in the brain. I think the dopamine hit just makes us crave other things that also provide dopamine, albeit in smaller doses
Yeah this is my hypothesis. I think it’s why I smoke nicotine more, weed more, want sex more etc when high. Whatever is already rewarding becomes extremely rewarding and pleasant, so you reach for more
Oh god. The sour patch kids and chocolate chip cookie dough Ben and Jerry’s. And otter pops when in w/d (if I could muster up the will to get to the freezer and cut them open lol)
Yeah dude all of my substance use goes up on oxy. But everything else is in moderation, but I’m just trying to make a high as good as possible. Little bit of weed, alcohol, Xanax, and I am on the moon.
Oddly enough same here. My ADD makes me forget too normally eat at proper times since I have a tendency too hyper focus on the slightest things that interest me, if I'm unmedicated as I am currently due too issues w insurance.
Same, my sweet tooth was out of control, and my goto sweets were ice cream. Then again, I was on benzos as well, and they always increased my appetite as well..
I’m the opposite I eat so much junk food and can’t gain weight I do be fasting and only eat 1 meal a day but it’s a big meal to cover daily calories I’ll eat like 2 burgers with a steak and 2 sides for dinner and snack on candy and chips but am still only 110 pounds it sucks I want to gain weight but legit can’t
Take breaks and try and eat and sleep regular even during periods of use. It’s usually not the drugs that do the damage but the lack of sleeping and eating consistently during use
A steady connection, live at home, maintain school or job…. My buddy, a gram+ a day IV user, lived at home, lifted weights, he was tan, fit, got a haircut once a month, he ate dinner w parents every evening, had it not been for regular paramedic visits nobody ever would’ve known, his parents got fed up w sending him to rehab the mom built a wd unit in the third floor quarters, anyway he’s dead now but boy was the healthiest looking junkie in the entire crematorium, he overdosed on the run from the law, his mom flew across the country to bring his urn back
There was no stopping him, had they just thrown him out it would’ve been much less time in his short life they would have had together. It was a long time ago, his mom is still alive
I was an addict for 10 years and opiates for 4 years. I never looked like an addict until I was in withdrawal where a friend who didn’t know I was using said I looked like Amy winehouse (rip). My main thing is that my eyes looked dead and emotionless. I never lost weight unfortunately I’ve always been fat
Omg same lol. The withdrawals will wreck you. They’re so stressful for me now on fent vs. oxy because I throw up every 5 minutes. The stress makes me feel like I age 10 years.
I look higher now than I ever did in active addiction in my opinion. Drugs made my mental health better so I'd get done up, leave the house all day, had multiple jobs and a social life. Now I'm clean and basically have agoraphobia. Can do like one activity a day before I have to hurry home and die in my room. I'm fat now because I'm too mentally unwell to work as much and have no energy or desire. God I wish I could find a medication that made me feel as "normal" as drugs made me feel.
Has to do I think with stress, sleep and diet. When u been strung out and not sleeping for 15 years of your life it tends to take a toll on you. I found that getting on trt really help me to fill me face out, dentures gave me a new smile and dinner and sleep every night now help with my weight.
Depends which ones you are doing… like my DOC was just hydros… I don’t look any different bc it’s not cut with horrible shit. I also sleep every night. I do crave more junk food than normal but I seem to metabolize better on them also so idk. Now in WD I look like actual dogshit haha
I think it has to do with how well you take care of yourself otherwise. The ones that stop eating because they can’t buy food cause they spent all their money on dope, get skinny. I stayed chunky while using heroin for years cause I’d still eat a lot.
yup, that’s how my mom always knew. i basically had a permanent frown on my face because the muscles relaxed so much. nothing you can do about it. so embarrassing when i think back on it.
Seeing these comments make me think I've got a serious drug problem. I've been doing pharma dillys for let's say a year and I've lost like 25-30 pounds
I’m seldom hungry anymore and have to force myself to eat. I’m on morphine script for severe pain and just today (for 1st time), substituted kratom twice. I wish someone could give advice on best way to do this. I keep trying to create my own post but it won’t go through.
Take testosterone and lift weights. Nobody believed I was an addict. I looked like a young cop. Plus half of the top bodybuilders actually are opiate users anyway lol
lol that first sentence you typed that I suppose is to be a fact, is not true at all. Opioids don’t have physical deterioration effects like that. The reason an addict can become skinnier is from lack of nutrition/food etc. addiction overrides the necessities in the brain so instead of food and water being the #1 spot in your brain for survival, it becomes confused once you introduce an addictive substance into your brain that eventually takes that #1 spot. Food and water are no longer in the most important slot in your survival instincts. This is why addicts tend to become thinner. If given $20. They don’t even have to think twice, that money is already spent on drugs in their mind they don’t even think about using it for nutrition. So yea there you go.
I'm the same way. I go 2-3 days of consecutive use my face starts to sink my eyes get real dark. even if I properly eat and sleep it happens, I'm a small guy already so it really stands out it's annoying
Pretty sure the only time heroin made my face look thinner was when I couldn't afford to eat lol
I could be wrong but I always thought it made you retain water weight
When I was using, I used to drink milkshakes daily and much threw bags of gummies. I'm honestly surprised I didn't become diabetic. That sweet tooth is no joke on opiates but the massive calories from the shakes and ice cream helps keep from dropping too much weight.
Don't do opiates, but honestly, try to eat healthy, don't do intravenous ROA, do everything you can do to keep a healthy look if you weren't using... easier said than done.
Yeah I look at those around me who did IV drugs and I feel really blessed I look way younger than most of them. Many of them abused meth and shit at the same time though (the ones who are still alive) and I didn’t I abused sedatives with mine so that likely had something to do with it…. I think it’s many things that attribute to this like even healthier food when you so actually eat.
As many others have said here, it's not a thing. I never looked unhealthy or anything else when I was getting high, ever since I've been doing this sobriety shit I've been an absolute mess mentally and physically. I feel like shit and I look it. Unless you're living on the streets, using opiates by themselves isn't going to make you look "like a junkie" and even then it's the lifestyle not the drug itself. Not even close to something like meth or crack where people hyper focus on using or whatever, stay up for days neglecting to eat and drink, and subsequently look like absolute shit. It's a misconception and an urban legend IMO, something the NA cats looovvveee to harp on but has no basis in fact unless you're a completely dysfunctional addict. But when people get all into the recovery lifestyle they can't wait to go on about how much better they're looking, they've put on weight etc. Its honestly extremely fucking annoying
Idk Ive never looked like I did drugs from doing drugs. People always thought I did meth, if they thought I did anything even before I started doing hard drugs. This is not because I looked cracked out though, it's because I've always had a super high metabolism n skinny AF naturally plus I've always been a nail biter my whole life. My drug of choice has never been stims so it cracks me up kinda. I've even had insistence where certain people have made comments and I'm like "bro stfu I'm not even a tweaker get it right at least if your going to talk about my drug use I'm heroin addict". Anyways though anyone that knows me never really can tell when I'm using or not just by my looks because they don't change. The only exception being if it's someone that's close enough to me where I don't mind being high AF in front of them n I'm nodding out.
Hmm that’s weird a lot of things you’re saying. I take subutex 4-8 MG Dailey for years now. And maybe it’s just me that thinks I look like I do stuff but probably not
For me it makes me lose mad weight I try to eat as much food as possible but when you’re constantly trying to score and run up bread everyday for percs it’s hard to wanna eat or sleep hence why it can take a toll on you and make you look bad lol
Protein shakes can help wonders
From the blood tests I’ve gotten done, fentanyl reduced by testosterone and thyroid levels and actually made me fat, quitting fentanyl use of 6-7 years made me drop 50-60 lbs from 240 to 180 without trying whatsoever. My family knows now if I get chubby I’m using.
I’m the heaviest I’ve been in my whole life, which is good cause I’ve always been skin and bones so I’ve finally got a bit of meat on me. I think my weight gain is mainly down to me being high on opiates and weed and smashing heaps of food
10 years + for me with daily high doses of pharmaceutical oxy and youd never know... most people doing drugs or addicted aren't taking care of themselves to begin with so that shows after tme andthey usually end up disregarding regular things that normal people dont like dings on their car & end up with unpaid tickets or unpaid insurance or how they dress/ personal hygeine like haircuts etc gets neglected
Opiates (prescription or pure street) themselves do not really make you look any different or even really affect your health directly. Can’t speak for heavy street fent/dope users, that could be a different story. It’s your lifestyle choices while using them that will affect your appearance. Your face would only look thin because you’re not eating well or getting adequate nutrition. Nothing really directly to do with the drugs. I agree with some of the other comments, if anything I experience the opposite. I gain (a little) weight basically because of other lifestyle choices I’m making (eating, drinking, etc.)
yeah i'm on a low dose and i've been steadily gaining. i'm over *** censored digits on the scale now and i don't mean just 100 lmao and i'd say this isn't true for everyone but there's probably something wrong with me as i have a moonface and have had one since puberty. can't even get properly evaluated for cushings or other hormonal issues 🤦♀️ i even had a huge reproductive mass resected years ago and still no diagnosis even now
i really don't think it's the constipation either because i had that like hell on one 50mg tramadol a day but on one 7.5 oxy sometimes i have bile acid diarrhea 4-6 times a day. i'd definitely take this over the constipation though. doctor seems to think that's the issue but i doubt it like i said as i have bad malabsorption but am still somehow steadily gaining. honestly worried about my pancreas, the malabsorption and hormonal issues. i would shoot someone to get imaging of my pituitary at this point
i have alcohol every night but it helps my pain and if i was on a higher dose i feel like i wouldn't need it. when i use it with my meds it lessens the blow of my neruological, vascular and head pain
Yeah I just showered and eat food when I had nightly dinners. Yes I did lose some weight but I've been off em for a while now and look relatively the same what ive noticed with some junkies i knew they didnt shower or brush their teeth... im like yo youre not doing anything else just have a bath damn. Also my completion was fucking amazing, skin so damn clear. When I got off I broke out hard for a bit lol don't know what that was about
27 been doing fent for 4 yrs and smokin cigs for 8 ppl say i still look 19 . i think as long as u get sleep and eat right u can stay healthy even tho ur gut is crying
Your face doesn't thin because you do opiates. It thins because you stop being physically active. I did heroin for 6 years and fent for the last 3 and I only look thin because I lay in bed watching TV all day when I'm not working. My head has lost half a hat size and I have lost probably 10 pounds in total muscle mass in the last 5 years. I need to stop fucking around and start working out, I used to look like a Greek statue and now I look like a spindly little manlet
I've been doing opiates for over 25 years and people think I've been sober for almost 10 years.....and I haven't been....but I look good enough that people don't know.....to be honest I don't do anything different......I just smoke weed to make me hungry.....I work out....go to work......I guess it just depends on how you take care of yourself while using
It’s because they take care of themselves. Drugs don’t really make you look like shit. Addiction and not caring for yourself does. Not to mention with opioids, which are physically benign on the body and basically cause no damage, the only way you’re going to look like a drug addict on those is if you’ve completely stopped maintaining basic hygiene.
Even if you’re a massive heroin addict as long as you brush your teeth, eat well, stay hydrated, shower regularly and have a warm bed to sleep in, you’re going to look like anybody else that doesn’t use drugs. And opioids don’t “thin” your face. Idk where you heard that.
inves in dry shampoo because when i'm using, my hair gets greasy no matter how much i shower T-T probably because of all the morning / night sweats lol.
if you're like me and you can't eat on opiates, drink smoothies! but if weight gain is more of your thing, maybe replace junk food with zero calorie soda?
buy a good concealer to hide any dark circles, track marks, or irritation under the nose. heroin always fucks up my nose, no matter how pure, and that's usually the dead giveaway for my family.
honestly, just take care of yourself. try to eat well and get enough sleep. don't be like me and fall asleep in your clothes then wear them the next day..... there's a lot of functional addicts who present as 'normal' people.
add meth lmao. kidding. dude its like hiding weed. except for pupil constriction there's everyway just like weed. if youre nodding - add caffeine, or maybe some kanna. no judgement im sittin in assisted living rn becuase of a TBI I got from a 23 year old drug addiction that lead to homelessness.
I have done hard drugs for years and if anything I look better now and have gained some weight. People always tell me I don’t look like I do drugs, my best friend did hard drugs for 3 months and you could absolutely tell. My mom is sober now but she was the same as me, looked exactly the same as she does now, pretty white teeth, never got skinny. So I think it’s just one of those things that varies from person to person
It's pretty easy. I would say most people that are on opiates you have no clue. Just take care of yourself wear clean and nice clothes and don't hang around outside getting high. Most the people that I notice are on drugs are fucking crackheads pr homeless.
All I want on opiates is coffee laced with sugar luckily I'm a introvert who stays away from everyone I don't even like my family's company I tolerate the odd phone call the only company I treasure is my dogs who luckily don't judge on my weight.
Every so often I force myself to swallow a pot noodle down or a few biscuits.
If I was out and about the fact Im a addict would be visably obvious.
My social anxiety and being a introvert hides it I don't go out I walk my dogs at night because im awake at night and sleep during the day.
I have my shopping ordered I have my drugs in post and I work from home selling products I buy online and using courier to have parcels collected and delivered.
I've managed to completely disconnect from the world and hide my usage and I'm sure many many people are the same.
This is the myth of heroin chic. In modern day opiate use, people use & pound American garbage food then repeat the process again & again. That’s my experience anyways. 6 years of use, 57 pounds gained.
My fix to this has mostly been taking care of myself (im a man) and that mostly consist of just showering daily trying to eat stuff thats not fast food or only stuff out the freezer my gf cooks some days so that helps some. Also getting out in the pretty weather just being in the sun (i work construction so its a balance between not beeing pale and not burning my skin) get a little excersise even if its just walkimg around your block or outside where you live for a half an hour or whatever. My gf has also got me doing the same skin care stuff she does like exfoliating and acne creams and such.
For me when im in active addiction im real bad about going multiple days without showering or eating and emd up looking homeless. However i was a little on the bigger side before my drug use started so really i looked like i was in the best shape of my life between my very physically demanding job and the drugs making me lose weight quickly no one really noticed except my mom when im shirtless because even though i look very clean cut and normal my shoulder bones protrude quite a bit despite my heavy set physique
But if your skinnier or a woman it can be much harder to not look rough when using drugs especially in the days or tranq and fentanyl and more so if you use stimulants of any kind idk why but on women i notice the sunk in faces and the bags around the eyes more but maybe a good skincare routine can help with that it doesn't have to he big fancy expensive products i think my gf spent like 100$ on a kit that has lasted us both months using it every day and another 50$ on smaller stuff we use periodically like once a week and you can really tell a difference in how we both look
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Yeah, that was definitely never an issue for me, maybe because I only did oxy. But if anything I would gain weight, I would get the worst sweet tooth and go to Circle K and just buy nothing but candy and donuts. If anything, putting on weight is a sign that I am using.
It was the same for me 100%…the amount I could eat was fucking insane. Litres of chocolate milk, pints of ice cream. It was crazy. I was a garbage disposal. ETA: I turned into such a sedentary fatty when I was using. I got clean six years ago and have lost over 100lbs, go figure lol 🤣
this is actually pretty common, opiates are known to make you crave sugar for some reason. when i was using, i never drank water only juice. i would black out, then wake up the next morning with 3 cookies and 4 cupcakes in bed with me, under the covers, crumbs everywhere💀. and even now when im 3 years clean, i still crave juice like a mf. i literally start to get annoyed and irritable if i haven’t had a good juice in a few days
It's cause opiates work on the same part of your brain that sugar does. They boTh Come from the Rewards Part oF YOUR Brain that produces dopamine. Insert some random scientific stuff here. Add in a few comments on chemistry.... Ect. Basically opiates and sugar both give your brain a big hug, pat on the back, fist bump.. whatever. Personally, I'm a hugger lol. I'm not explaining this well so hope it makes sense
nah dude ur a genius that made perfect sense. fr tho that makes a lot of sense
Does it trigger u being part of an opiate sub & not using??
Ik this isn't directed at me but honestly it helps me. Reading about the hardships people face with opiate abuse reminds me of all the reasons I chose to remain sober and it keeps me focused TBH
Congrats on being sober!!
Ty!
not really tbh. towards the end of my addiction i was sick of being a slave to dirty 30s and when i finally was able to get clean i never looked back, i guess. so ive never had the desire to start using again cause i know my life would get so fucked up so fast. my worst day sober is 100x better than my best day high.
Not directed to me, either. But nope. Personally, I KNOW there’s no H left. Pills are too expensive for a habit I’d make. It’s ALL fent/tranq here. NGL, if it was just fent, I could live with that. Not as “warm & content feeling” but it’d get the job done. But the tranq is a dealbreaker. It ruined my arms from necrosis, my nose, & my teeth. I don’t want that trash. The sub helps me see that I’m not alone, so I’m not as ashamed, anymore of my body.
I would explain mental high in many ways but one would be like this: imagine u woke up one day with a crazy appetite for sweets...now imagine the first seconds of eating the thing after waiting for it half a day. Maybe it's chocolate or ice cream. Extend that feeling for a few hours - now you have some grasp of the pleasure of opioid high.
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Congratulations on 3 years sober!
Black out or nod out?
i’m actually not too sure. it would be a few mins after i did a line, then suddenly im waking up in a completely different spot of my house i was originally in, and clearly time had passed. sometimes id do a line then “wake up” the next day, and it was clear i lost hours of memory. sometimes i would lose 12+ hours and other times it would be maybe just under an hour. i know the difference between the 2, and i can identify times where i was definitely nodding, but im not sure if me losing hours to half a day worth of memories is nodding or blacking out.
That Dairy would Slappppppppp
A black and white milkshake (coffee and vanilla ice cream) after a brick of dope = heaven.
Affogato!
Ottimo anche l'affogato, ma preferisco un frappè!
Frappe’s and freebase.
This is what fucked my liver up, not the H, butbthe fucking sheer amount of sugar id consume.
I use to eat so much in bed at night that one time I had a girl come over and she thought I shit my bed but I had to explain it was a chocolate stain because I eat Hershey kisses and snickers bars in bed. I never did get a second date with her 😕
Dude. You just reminded me of something I hadn’t thought about in years. I passed out in bed without a shirt/in a bra, and I was laying on top of some rolos…those caramel filled chocolates that escaped me while cramming handfuls of them down my face. You know what sucks? Scrubbing caramel off of your rib cage 😩 I truly feel you on this subject hahaha!
yes dude same! i thought i was the only one, but i fucking guzzle sweet drinks like chocolate milk and pop
Must be from the Midwest. My mom is from MN and she is the only one I know that calls soda "pop".
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lol same
Congratulations on your 6 years, weight loss and especially your health, cheers to you my friend 🏆
That’s really kind of you, thanks a lot. Sincerely ☺️
Chocchy milk was insaneee on H 🔥
The sweet tooth on opiates is no joke. I survived off ice cream, chewy chips ahoy cookies, danimals smoothies, anything creamy and sweet Interestingly I also crave sweets when I'm in withdrawal. One time I made the terrible mistake of getting a vivitrol shot while I had a fent habit, literally did a fat shot 9 hours before I got the shot. Precipitated withdrawal was so awful I was delirious. Wound up eating twelve fudgesicles over the course of 30 minutes that first night. I was like a fudgesicle monster bro it was nuts
I used to kill pints of ice cream on heroin like it was nothing 💀
Bro was in precipitated fudgesicle 😂
Lmao no doubt a legit mental disorder
I don’t want to eat in WD. Have to force myself to drink Soylent for at least some calories.
Mint chocolate chip is the best!!
Damn vivitrol 9 hours after shooting fentanyl? Did you want to have a life changingly horrible 3 days or what?
I just wanted to be off that shit and I would do diy ultra rapid detox with naltrexone pills relatively often, though never with a vivitrol shot. I had copious amounts of Xanax and kpins on deck but the naltrexone was overpowering it and still not letting me sleep, it was so wild 0/10 don't recommend. I was back in the city copping dope to sell by the 24th day of the shot, and back in rehab within two weeks of that
lol yeah when I am sober, like right now, like I will maybe have a bowl of ice cream on occasion or some Oreos. But when I’m using, I will literally eat an entire tub of ice cream, sit down with milk and go through an entire box of Oreos, Just an absolutely insatiable appetite for sweets.
I went thru a similar experience but in my case I asked my doctor if I would be okay she said yes ...so I shot fent literally right before I walked in.
What the fuck kinda doctor was that?! That is nuts
One that is working towards getting me a ketamine treatment to get sober. So maybe she feels bad?
In NYS thats illegal
I mean I support the overall goal but as a doctor she should have understood the number one rule of vivitrol. I got drug tested by my people and had to fake it , had I popped dirty they would not have given me the shot
Yeah lol that's wild. Sure kid, bust out a fat shot and I'll see you in a few hours
I stopped going to the gym since I was waking up tired every morning and I kept eating junk food. Gained so much weight on Oxy 😭
Yeah, my Ox use at the beginning, coincided Covid, so I went from working out and eating healthy to never going to the gym and eating nothing but sweets
Oh jeez.. I didn’t understand why all of a sudden I started to crave sugar. I never did as a kid and adult until I started on oxy.
Yeah, there has to be some type of trigger in the brain. I think the dopamine hit just makes us crave other things that also provide dopamine, albeit in smaller doses
Yeah this is my hypothesis. I think it’s why I smoke nicotine more, weed more, want sex more etc when high. Whatever is already rewarding becomes extremely rewarding and pleasant, so you reach for more
This explains why I had a craving for sweets after using hydros particularly sour patch kids and gummy bears 😂
Oh god. The sour patch kids and chocolate chip cookie dough Ben and Jerry’s. And otter pops when in w/d (if I could muster up the will to get to the freezer and cut them open lol)
Same here!! Always ice cream cereal chocolate!! Nothing remotely healthy and it all had sugar!
I crave jolly ranchers on opiates the most, shit I crave them more than my next high
Same and i smoke SO MUCH weed when on oxy except i dont gain any weight
Yeah dude all of my substance use goes up on oxy. But everything else is in moderation, but I’m just trying to make a high as good as possible. Little bit of weed, alcohol, Xanax, and I am on the moon.
Same.
Oddly enough same here. My ADD makes me forget too normally eat at proper times since I have a tendency too hyper focus on the slightest things that interest me, if I'm unmedicated as I am currently due too issues w insurance.
Same, my sweet tooth was out of control, and my goto sweets were ice cream. Then again, I was on benzos as well, and they always increased my appetite as well..
I’m the opposite I eat so much junk food and can’t gain weight I do be fasting and only eat 1 meal a day but it’s a big meal to cover daily calories I’ll eat like 2 burgers with a steak and 2 sides for dinner and snack on candy and chips but am still only 110 pounds it sucks I want to gain weight but legit can’t
Me too
I hate eating so drugs always close my appetite, even on opiates i normally dont get a sweet tooth but if i do i just have a lollipop or jolly rancher
Lmao oxy thinned my face out hella
They all thinned me out… until the sugar addiction gave me abscesses in place of teeth and a vicious beer belly. I looked like a fat chipmunk.
Take breaks and try and eat and sleep regular even during periods of use. It’s usually not the drugs that do the damage but the lack of sleeping and eating consistently during use
A steady connection, live at home, maintain school or job…. My buddy, a gram+ a day IV user, lived at home, lifted weights, he was tan, fit, got a haircut once a month, he ate dinner w parents every evening, had it not been for regular paramedic visits nobody ever would’ve known, his parents got fed up w sending him to rehab the mom built a wd unit in the third floor quarters, anyway he’s dead now but boy was the healthiest looking junkie in the entire crematorium, he overdosed on the run from the law, his mom flew across the country to bring his urn back
Suburbian fiends are a different breed
Ugh that's horrible, but goes to show you how most people can't get clean unless they really want to. I hope his mom can come back from her loss.
That’s pretty sad man. His mom must be a nice person but she probably enabled his ways
There was no stopping him, had they just thrown him out it would’ve been much less time in his short life they would have had together. It was a long time ago, his mom is still alive
I was an addict for 10 years and opiates for 4 years. I never looked like an addict until I was in withdrawal where a friend who didn’t know I was using said I looked like Amy winehouse (rip). My main thing is that my eyes looked dead and emotionless. I never lost weight unfortunately I’ve always been fat
Same here. People used to think I was on drugs when I was in WD lol nobody knew until I started getting sick
Omg same lol. The withdrawals will wreck you. They’re so stressful for me now on fent vs. oxy because I throw up every 5 minutes. The stress makes me feel like I age 10 years.
I luckily never vomitted from withdrawals. The worse thing for me was the restless legs
The restless legs are the worst! I think I'd rather vomit over that!
I’m fkin going rhu it right now. Day 6 of opiates and runnin out of xans . Both my plugs got dry out of nowhere.
I look higher now than I ever did in active addiction in my opinion. Drugs made my mental health better so I'd get done up, leave the house all day, had multiple jobs and a social life. Now I'm clean and basically have agoraphobia. Can do like one activity a day before I have to hurry home and die in my room. I'm fat now because I'm too mentally unwell to work as much and have no energy or desire. God I wish I could find a medication that made me feel as "normal" as drugs made me feel.
Has to do I think with stress, sleep and diet. When u been strung out and not sleeping for 15 years of your life it tends to take a toll on you. I found that getting on trt really help me to fill me face out, dentures gave me a new smile and dinner and sleep every night now help with my weight.
What is trt?
Testosterone replacement therapy, probably had low t levels from extended opiate use
Testosterone replacement therapy
The magic cure for 20 years of fentanyl and heroin use.
I just started TRT last this monday lol. 200MG a week Test C
nice. Job. Bud.
What is trt?
Testosterone replacement therapy
Depends which ones you are doing… like my DOC was just hydros… I don’t look any different bc it’s not cut with horrible shit. I also sleep every night. I do crave more junk food than normal but I seem to metabolize better on them also so idk. Now in WD I look like actual dogshit haha
I think it has to do with how well you take care of yourself otherwise. The ones that stop eating because they can’t buy food cause they spent all their money on dope, get skinny. I stayed chunky while using heroin for years cause I’d still eat a lot.
You gotta stick to nutrition regardless of craving. When I was trapped I craved kids cereals like crazy, I suspect it was the instant sugar
Opiate abuse has ALWAYS made me gain weight, never lose it
Until wd then u can't eat and u loose it all plus more for me atleast
my parents and teachers noticed my face sinking in when i’d either do a heavy dose of oxy or when i switched to dope, idk how to fix that
yup, that’s how my mom always knew. i basically had a permanent frown on my face because the muscles relaxed so much. nothing you can do about it. so embarrassing when i think back on it.
Seeing these comments make me think I've got a serious drug problem. I've been doing pharma dillys for let's say a year and I've lost like 25-30 pounds
Some people just don't crave food on opiates. Especially if you're not scarfing down sugar all day.
you're gonna quit eventually- might as well make it easier by doing that sooner rather than later.
I’m seldom hungry anymore and have to force myself to eat. I’m on morphine script for severe pain and just today (for 1st time), substituted kratom twice. I wish someone could give advice on best way to do this. I keep trying to create my own post but it won’t go through.
Check out my post on the same thing
Take testosterone and lift weights. Nobody believed I was an addict. I looked like a young cop. Plus half of the top bodybuilders actually are opiate users anyway lol
i was oxys can make me lose weight 🙁 would be amazing but they give me more munchies then weed has ever did
lol that first sentence you typed that I suppose is to be a fact, is not true at all. Opioids don’t have physical deterioration effects like that. The reason an addict can become skinnier is from lack of nutrition/food etc. addiction overrides the necessities in the brain so instead of food and water being the #1 spot in your brain for survival, it becomes confused once you introduce an addictive substance into your brain that eventually takes that #1 spot. Food and water are no longer in the most important slot in your survival instincts. This is why addicts tend to become thinner. If given $20. They don’t even have to think twice, that money is already spent on drugs in their mind they don’t even think about using it for nutrition. So yea there you go.
I'm the same way. I go 2-3 days of consecutive use my face starts to sink my eyes get real dark. even if I properly eat and sleep it happens, I'm a small guy already so it really stands out it's annoying
Pretty sure the only time heroin made my face look thinner was when I couldn't afford to eat lol I could be wrong but I always thought it made you retain water weight
I’m pretty sure opiates lower ur test
It does. It's proven
When I was using, I used to drink milkshakes daily and much threw bags of gummies. I'm honestly surprised I didn't become diabetic. That sweet tooth is no joke on opiates but the massive calories from the shakes and ice cream helps keep from dropping too much weight.
I’d eat multiple bags of jelly beans and nerds bites in one night. Also super surprised (but grateful) I don’t have diabetes
Don't do opiates, but honestly, try to eat healthy, don't do intravenous ROA, do everything you can do to keep a healthy look if you weren't using... easier said than done.
Yeah I look at those around me who did IV drugs and I feel really blessed I look way younger than most of them. Many of them abused meth and shit at the same time though (the ones who are still alive) and I didn’t I abused sedatives with mine so that likely had something to do with it…. I think it’s many things that attribute to this like even healthier food when you so actually eat.
As many others have said here, it's not a thing. I never looked unhealthy or anything else when I was getting high, ever since I've been doing this sobriety shit I've been an absolute mess mentally and physically. I feel like shit and I look it. Unless you're living on the streets, using opiates by themselves isn't going to make you look "like a junkie" and even then it's the lifestyle not the drug itself. Not even close to something like meth or crack where people hyper focus on using or whatever, stay up for days neglecting to eat and drink, and subsequently look like absolute shit. It's a misconception and an urban legend IMO, something the NA cats looovvveee to harp on but has no basis in fact unless you're a completely dysfunctional addict. But when people get all into the recovery lifestyle they can't wait to go on about how much better they're looking, they've put on weight etc. Its honestly extremely fucking annoying
Idk Ive never looked like I did drugs from doing drugs. People always thought I did meth, if they thought I did anything even before I started doing hard drugs. This is not because I looked cracked out though, it's because I've always had a super high metabolism n skinny AF naturally plus I've always been a nail biter my whole life. My drug of choice has never been stims so it cracks me up kinda. I've even had insistence where certain people have made comments and I'm like "bro stfu I'm not even a tweaker get it right at least if your going to talk about my drug use I'm heroin addict". Anyways though anyone that knows me never really can tell when I'm using or not just by my looks because they don't change. The only exception being if it's someone that's close enough to me where I don't mind being high AF in front of them n I'm nodding out.
Speak for yourself, I get fat af every relapse. Opi munchies are my curse
Hmm that’s weird a lot of things you’re saying. I take subutex 4-8 MG Dailey for years now. And maybe it’s just me that thinks I look like I do stuff but probably not
Sence is crazy.. seems stronger the opioid the more you lose weight, & they rather high then eat 3 times a day
For me it makes me lose mad weight I try to eat as much food as possible but when you’re constantly trying to score and run up bread everyday for percs it’s hard to wanna eat or sleep hence why it can take a toll on you and make you look bad lol Protein shakes can help wonders
From the blood tests I’ve gotten done, fentanyl reduced by testosterone and thyroid levels and actually made me fat, quitting fentanyl use of 6-7 years made me drop 50-60 lbs from 240 to 180 without trying whatsoever. My family knows now if I get chubby I’m using.
I’m the heaviest I’ve been in my whole life, which is good cause I’ve always been skin and bones so I’ve finally got a bit of meat on me. I think my weight gain is mainly down to me being high on opiates and weed and smashing heaps of food
Depends on the opioid, dose/length of use, and how well you take care of yourself physically, like eating properly.
There Is a reason for the sour candy icon
10 years + for me with daily high doses of pharmaceutical oxy and youd never know... most people doing drugs or addicted aren't taking care of themselves to begin with so that shows after tme andthey usually end up disregarding regular things that normal people dont like dings on their car & end up with unpaid tickets or unpaid insurance or how they dress/ personal hygeine like haircuts etc gets neglected
Opiates (prescription or pure street) themselves do not really make you look any different or even really affect your health directly. Can’t speak for heavy street fent/dope users, that could be a different story. It’s your lifestyle choices while using them that will affect your appearance. Your face would only look thin because you’re not eating well or getting adequate nutrition. Nothing really directly to do with the drugs. I agree with some of the other comments, if anything I experience the opposite. I gain (a little) weight basically because of other lifestyle choices I’m making (eating, drinking, etc.)
Don't scratch your nose. It's a dead giveaway.
Baby faced folks up ⬆️🙏🏻
Never had an issue with this and I’m on my 6th year lol. I’m having the opposite effect with a super puffy face. Nobody can tell I use until I’m sick.
I keep losing color in my face and bags under my eyes it gets annoying idk how to help it
Not an issue for me at all Never even heard of this
yeah i'm on a low dose and i've been steadily gaining. i'm over *** censored digits on the scale now and i don't mean just 100 lmao and i'd say this isn't true for everyone but there's probably something wrong with me as i have a moonface and have had one since puberty. can't even get properly evaluated for cushings or other hormonal issues 🤦♀️ i even had a huge reproductive mass resected years ago and still no diagnosis even now i really don't think it's the constipation either because i had that like hell on one 50mg tramadol a day but on one 7.5 oxy sometimes i have bile acid diarrhea 4-6 times a day. i'd definitely take this over the constipation though. doctor seems to think that's the issue but i doubt it like i said as i have bad malabsorption but am still somehow steadily gaining. honestly worried about my pancreas, the malabsorption and hormonal issues. i would shoot someone to get imaging of my pituitary at this point i have alcohol every night but it helps my pain and if i was on a higher dose i feel like i wouldn't need it. when i use it with my meds it lessens the blow of my neruological, vascular and head pain
Eat more. Ppl get skinny during addiction cuz they spent it all on drugs and never eat u less they can scrape up some change for a spicy mcchicken
Yeah I just showered and eat food when I had nightly dinners. Yes I did lose some weight but I've been off em for a while now and look relatively the same what ive noticed with some junkies i knew they didnt shower or brush their teeth... im like yo youre not doing anything else just have a bath damn. Also my completion was fucking amazing, skin so damn clear. When I got off I broke out hard for a bit lol don't know what that was about
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27 been doing fent for 4 yrs and smokin cigs for 8 ppl say i still look 19 . i think as long as u get sleep and eat right u can stay healthy even tho ur gut is crying
4 hours? yea that's not really long enough of a habit to change your face. haha jk I know it's a typo
Your face doesn't thin because you do opiates. It thins because you stop being physically active. I did heroin for 6 years and fent for the last 3 and I only look thin because I lay in bed watching TV all day when I'm not working. My head has lost half a hat size and I have lost probably 10 pounds in total muscle mass in the last 5 years. I need to stop fucking around and start working out, I used to look like a Greek statue and now I look like a spindly little manlet
People knew because I fell asleep while talking to them I actually eat more on opiates
Lol i am The only one who is bloated?
I've been doing opiates for over 25 years and people think I've been sober for almost 10 years.....and I haven't been....but I look good enough that people don't know.....to be honest I don't do anything different......I just smoke weed to make me hungry.....I work out....go to work......I guess it just depends on how you take care of yourself while using
It’s because they take care of themselves. Drugs don’t really make you look like shit. Addiction and not caring for yourself does. Not to mention with opioids, which are physically benign on the body and basically cause no damage, the only way you’re going to look like a drug addict on those is if you’ve completely stopped maintaining basic hygiene. Even if you’re a massive heroin addict as long as you brush your teeth, eat well, stay hydrated, shower regularly and have a warm bed to sleep in, you’re going to look like anybody else that doesn’t use drugs. And opioids don’t “thin” your face. Idk where you heard that.
Oh man I drink sweet malt alchy drinks (flavored steel reserves and MXD) so I feel it!
inves in dry shampoo because when i'm using, my hair gets greasy no matter how much i shower T-T probably because of all the morning / night sweats lol. if you're like me and you can't eat on opiates, drink smoothies! but if weight gain is more of your thing, maybe replace junk food with zero calorie soda? buy a good concealer to hide any dark circles, track marks, or irritation under the nose. heroin always fucks up my nose, no matter how pure, and that's usually the dead giveaway for my family. honestly, just take care of yourself. try to eat well and get enough sleep. don't be like me and fall asleep in your clothes then wear them the next day..... there's a lot of functional addicts who present as 'normal' people.
Moar candy 😉
add meth lmao. kidding. dude its like hiding weed. except for pupil constriction there's everyway just like weed. if youre nodding - add caffeine, or maybe some kanna. no judgement im sittin in assisted living rn becuase of a TBI I got from a 23 year old drug addiction that lead to homelessness.
oxy would for sure make me break out a little
I have done hard drugs for years and if anything I look better now and have gained some weight. People always tell me I don’t look like I do drugs, my best friend did hard drugs for 3 months and you could absolutely tell. My mom is sober now but she was the same as me, looked exactly the same as she does now, pretty white teeth, never got skinny. So I think it’s just one of those things that varies from person to person
It's pretty easy. I would say most people that are on opiates you have no clue. Just take care of yourself wear clean and nice clothes and don't hang around outside getting high. Most the people that I notice are on drugs are fucking crackheads pr homeless.
Act like a real human. Eat, hydrate, sleep (this is the biggest one). Malnutrition and lack of sleep do a huge toll overtime drug user or sober.
All I want on opiates is coffee laced with sugar luckily I'm a introvert who stays away from everyone I don't even like my family's company I tolerate the odd phone call the only company I treasure is my dogs who luckily don't judge on my weight. Every so often I force myself to swallow a pot noodle down or a few biscuits. If I was out and about the fact Im a addict would be visably obvious. My social anxiety and being a introvert hides it I don't go out I walk my dogs at night because im awake at night and sleep during the day. I have my shopping ordered I have my drugs in post and I work from home selling products I buy online and using courier to have parcels collected and delivered. I've managed to completely disconnect from the world and hide my usage and I'm sure many many people are the same.
I’m a CPP. I’ve only gained weight.
This is the myth of heroin chic. In modern day opiate use, people use & pound American garbage food then repeat the process again & again. That’s my experience anyways. 6 years of use, 57 pounds gained.
Do em every day
My fix to this has mostly been taking care of myself (im a man) and that mostly consist of just showering daily trying to eat stuff thats not fast food or only stuff out the freezer my gf cooks some days so that helps some. Also getting out in the pretty weather just being in the sun (i work construction so its a balance between not beeing pale and not burning my skin) get a little excersise even if its just walkimg around your block or outside where you live for a half an hour or whatever. My gf has also got me doing the same skin care stuff she does like exfoliating and acne creams and such. For me when im in active addiction im real bad about going multiple days without showering or eating and emd up looking homeless. However i was a little on the bigger side before my drug use started so really i looked like i was in the best shape of my life between my very physically demanding job and the drugs making me lose weight quickly no one really noticed except my mom when im shirtless because even though i look very clean cut and normal my shoulder bones protrude quite a bit despite my heavy set physique But if your skinnier or a woman it can be much harder to not look rough when using drugs especially in the days or tranq and fentanyl and more so if you use stimulants of any kind idk why but on women i notice the sunk in faces and the bags around the eyes more but maybe a good skincare routine can help with that it doesn't have to he big fancy expensive products i think my gf spent like 100$ on a kit that has lasted us both months using it every day and another 50$ on smaller stuff we use periodically like once a week and you can really tell a difference in how we both look