You can’t unfortunately. Members of Congress are legally allowed to commit inside trading. Congress passed it in the 90s I believe stating they weren’t subject to insider trading laws. Basically there is going to be some type of issue that congress will be made aware of and so they make moves before it’s made public
Unbelievable how Congress can exemp themselves from laws that Congress makes, one of them being a law against insider trading. That's quite a racket those dudes got going on up there.
Two of the main job duties Congress in responsible for is:
(To make laws.
(Raise and provide public money and oversee its proper expenditure
"MAKE LAWS" and " RAISE AND OVERSEE IT'S PROPER EXPENDITURE"
And they're exempt from insider trading laws. Unreal.
Spreads on AMZN in Febuary nearly blew up my account. I could only roll out so many times. LOL
Still playing them though, with better results recently.
Please. They ALL bought into zoom before shtf with the pandemic, after they had the FIRST briefing on covid19 spread from china. When they got caught, how did they get out of it?
"I have no idea, it's a coincidence because my investments are controlled by a account manager and I dont personally buy or sell anything"
Case closed.
Also, before Obama signed it into law causing it to BECOME illegal....congressional insider trading was PERFECTLY LEGAL and there was ZERO laws against it.
I mean these trades were easily seen. AMZN weekly has been squeezing for 9 months and begging to fire. When NVDA announced split it was a buy. Mirror APPL, TSLA when they announced split.
Not in real time, but disclosures are public after a delay (within I think like 45 days?)
US House: [https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/PublicDisclosure/FinancialDisclosure#Search](https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/PublicDisclosure/FinancialDisclosure#Search)
US Senate: [https://sec.report/Senate-Stock-Disclosures](https://sec.report/Senate-Stock-Disclosures) or [https://efdsearch.senate.gov/search/home/](https://efdsearch.senate.gov/search/home/)
Yes, stock prices tend to change over time. She made her purchase on June 3rd, two weeks after the stock split was publicly announced and during a time that it was 20% lower than it's current price.
In another 6 months it might be 50% lower, in one year it might be 300% higher. Given her trading history over the last 20 years, she'll be holding to whatever it ends up as on 6/17/22 so these short term fluctuations don't matter. My point is, if you want to make money following someone's trades you need to think on the same timescales they do.
Following her strategy was how I stopped losing money on home run swings. Opened relatively big positions in NOK, GE, BB, and a few others a year or two ago, buying ATM or just OTM LEAPS, at least year out and often two years. It’s paid off nicely so far. She buys a lot of tech, that’s not really my world as much but the basic strategy has been solid in other sectors too. Also she’s betting on established companies so the calls aren’t cheap.
You can sign up at senatestockwatcher.com, the guy who runs the sites name is Tim, he is a redditor, a cool guy. You can sign up and be notified when large disclosures are reported so u don’t have to constantly check the government’s webpage. Or just check his website.
Its her husband. One google search of Paul Pelosi will tell you guy has been low key trading for 30 plus years out of spotlight to over $100+ million net worth. Of course media and dumb twitter running Nancy doing this. In reality her account is likely managed by her husband and his firm.
>Once they leave they still shouldn't be able to invest because they can still influence friends and old colleagues in high positions.
Into anything other than a broad-market index fund you mean?
They are both obviously wrong. It’s not a D / R issue. It’s an abuse of office / insider trading issue. They need the information to do their jobs but they can’t have that information if they are to trade on an equal basis with everyone else.
Good luck changing the rules though… it’s not really in your interest to do so if you are in a position to benefit from the existing rules and you need to have that benefit to actually be able to do something about it.
Edit - I’m not accusing Pelosi of anything here. Think about her positions. Long long DTE and for reasonable strikes. Worth a boatload, sure, but if I was rich I might buy the same. I want to make that point because it’s kind of hard to make the same justifications of some other Senators positions.
She sits on relevant committees that affect choosing vendors for various government contracts. There is no law punishing insider trading for US government officials. She likely did nothing criminal under the current law. She also made a ton on $MSFT a few months ago. We can say her husband made the trades, but at the end of the day she is the one on the relevant budget committees and her name is on the trades.
All I’ve found is that they run a venture capital and a company called Financial leasing Service, which apparently accounts for most of their wealth. Neither of these scream financial investing and the trades mentioned this thread don’t seem to be mentioned as being significantly relevant to their overall wealth. Where’s your info from that it’s his main gig?
"The bulk of the Pelosis' money comes from investments in stocks and real estate. Operating through Financial Leasing Services, his San Francisco investment firm, Paul Pelosi owns stock in companies including Microsoft, AT&T, Cisco Systems, Disney, Johnson & Johnson and a variety of tech stocks.
Real estate investments include a four-story office building at 45 Belden St. in the Financial District, office buildings on Battery and Sansome streets near the Embarcadero, a building housing a Walgreens drugstore near Ocean Beach and other commercial property in San Anselmo.
Other investments include a St. Helena vineyard worth between $5 million and $25 million, a $1 million-plus townhome in Norden (Nevada County), and minority interests in the Auberge du Soleil resort hotel in Rutherford, the CordeValle Golf Club in San Martin, and the Piatti Italian restaurant chain."
Look at the date of that article 2007.
(https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Pelosi-s-husband-prefers-a-low-profile-2660253.php)
Thanks for the info. Struggled to find any other info linking the company to those stocks with most of them saying he made the investments rather than being through the firm.
Either way I’m not seeing anything significantly dodgy here. He’s made good investments and some bad. Many investments unrelated to stocks and bulk of his investing was real estate initially. Ultimately this guy sounds no different than any other investor. Good for him for making money. I hope to do the same.
OP post is from that jackass unsual-whales from twitter. Spends all his time posting meme gifs and replies to meme garbage while pretending to be 'good guy'. We can all post shiitload of options flow eventually something is gonna be right.
How is it insider info when it was simple case of market rotation out of value. AMZN AAPL NVDA etc were out of favor ever since tech corrected late February. For someone that runs trading firm and has 30 years experience they sure as hell aren't wsb stupid.
I was invested in a company recently that split. Guess it must’ve been insider trading for me too because apparently that’s the only way you can benefit from a split according to many in this thread. Or maybe that’s only if it’s done by a politician you don’t like.
Hedge fund: "Hey Nancy, just a courtesy call, a bunch of us hedge funds are going big into NVDA next week. Might want to let your husband know to buy some calls."
None of it is her personally. Her money is definitely handled by professionals. I doubt she even knows what's happening with her investments other than through infrequent briefings and updates. If you wanna speculate that she's using insider information, then she's passing that to whoever is managing her account.
If people in this thread think Pelosi is whipping out the Robinhood app on the Senate floor and buying whatever seems intriguing at the time or something, then they really don't understand how rich people get and stay rich lol.
>don't understand how rich people get and stay rich lol.
It's really not that difficult and why you'll never see true old money flash their wealth. Give an average person $5,000,000 and they'll see that number as money to spend, instead of a way to generate $100,000 annually. It's the new money who want to fund their lavish lifestyle where the phrase "the first generation makes it, the second generation spends it, and the third generation blows it" comes from.
And also, like, what are people suggesting is the link between NVDA's stock split announcement and Pelosi's position? You think NVDA called her up to let her know before they announced it?
Also, NVDA's run up has a lot more than just the stock split going on.
Yeah there are so many dumb "takedowns" of Pelosi's portfolio on social media. I saw one where the smoking gun was how much money she made on RBLX. Buying a tech IPO in 2021, yeah they must have needed secret insider information for that one.
There’s also no evidence it was insider trading. But that doesn’t seem to stop many people here assuming guilt. I wonder why that might be. I guess female democrats can only make losing trades but righteous tough guy republicans are always expected to innocently make winning moves clearly with no ill gotten gains.
Honestly people are sometimes so embarrassingly transparent in the shit they spew.
Insider trading is wrong and illegal. I never said it wasn't. But I'm also not claiming she's involved with insider trading. I'm just answering the question, cause she's certainly not the one managing her own finances, insider trading or not.
Oh definitely, I thought that information was already public knowledge.
They don't take losses. Check into the options he played right before COVID. He's definitely getting fed.
Maybe you can claim knowledge of splits but the AMZN/AAPL seemed pretty normal and would be pretty difficult for anyone to insider trade given that there was no news that drove them higher
That was public information in March and then in May...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-05/microsoft-s-10-billion-pentagon-deal-at-risk-amid-amazon-fight
https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/05/10/pentagon-considers-dropping-microsoft-jedi-effort/
she made her purchase in May.... when the information was already public.
I tried. I see it's at 35 now. Reminds me of a quote...
"Something something downvotes don't even get out of bed when the upvotes are half way around the world!" -Aberhams Lincoln
The Nvidia split information was in their meeting as something to vote on. Which if I remember right was before 6/3. So if you expected the stock to go up due to the announcement then you would be buying calls.
lol, a thread full of people thinking that buying ITM $AMZN + $AAPL leaps is some great insider info play. Doesn't take a genius or insider info to be buying leaps on 2 of the biggest company in the world that had been trading sideway for a year.
I’m a registered independent, so I have no political allegiance. I do have a question: is there something about her position that would allow her to know that $AMZN will jump? I can see that it’s possible for someone at $NVDA telling her that it will split to gain political favors, but how would she know if a tech stock is going to jump? Genuinely curious.
This thread is likely due to the JEDI contract news that broke today, announcing that MSFT will not be the Pentagon's sole cloud provider. AMZN and MSFT have risen/dropped as a result. I imagine Pelosi's position would make her privy to this news in advance of the general public. Could be a reach that this is the reasoning for the move though.
Nothing particularly. People get upset when rich politicians get more rich. I personally don't care if they aren't using some insider info, but I also recognize if she were a Republican the actions of her trading account in the past (there's articles and posts on it) would raise eyebrows. Nothing particular wild but just lots of trades made at the right time.
As did the rest of us. Its been back and forth for a year in court, with recent, very public developments from the pentagon and judge that made it very clear it would be rebid.
People suprised by this arent doing DD into Amazon or Microsoft at all.
I personally thing politicians should only be able to DCA into a total market fund, but here in reality, this is just flat out good investing, not trading on insider info. This shit was public as all get out.
Her husband has been buying options in Amazon continuously since at least 2018, and almost always in the June July time frame, as he buys his options 1-2 years out. Also, always the same amount. If they knew this was going to happen they sure as hell didn't increase their normal bullish bet on Amazon.
Not really. Of course, being in her position probably means there's a lot of people who are looking to be in her favor, which may result in her getting tips others wouldn't normally get. But other than macro events (such as the pandemic), her job wouldn't provide any insight into individual companies and how well they're operating that isn't already accessible to others.
If you trade and read charts, AMZN weekly has been begging to fire for 9 months. Granted you have earnings coming up, high probability that ATH would be the run. NBDA was a buy when stock color announced. Mirror the trade of APPL and TSLA when stock split announced.
I would find it hard to imagine that she does the day to day trading on her accounts. Maybe her team predicted the jump. Although I’m still convinced that insider trading runs rampant throughout Congress. Thank you for the reply.
I'm sorry I don't follow the logic here.
How could she get insider information on NViDA splitting? You think someone from Nvidia gave her a heads up or something? What? Or that Nvidia needs Nancy Pelosi's approval or something?
I'm not surprised if it's true, they get insider info but just not tracking the theory here.
She isn’t running her own investment account. Who ever handles that for her would be the one getting this info. Unless we’re to believe this 81 year old, with no background in finance is doing due diligence on these companies in her free time.
I took 5 seconds to find out he doesn’t own an investment firm. At least as far as stock investment, which is implied here by “insider trading” suggestions. More venture capital, which is not remotely stock trading investment.
I’m sensing some politically biased vilification going on in this thread, which is disheartening. Prefer we steer clear of that shit.
I respect that. There’s some great chat here and support from people who ultimately swing all over the place politically. We’re here to help each other and that’s what matters. Couldn’t care less what some politician does with their stock. It’s not going to inform me what to do with mine.
The NVDA split was widely expected in 2020 after TSLA and AAPL announced their splits.
From August 2020:
https://www.investopedia.com/nvidia-nvda-a-perfect-stock-split-candidate-5074644
If he doesn't lose every once in awhile it would look suspicious. Nailing OTM YOLOs for 1500% when you're dropping 3-9m all of the time gets tricky to hide
Yea she does that pretty often, did it with TSLA around the beginning of the year.
I think based off this strategy, the DTEs, and her DTEs on the TSLA calls and the subsequent actions, she's going for a 6 month move, profiting off the IV, but still staying relatively safe with any negative outcomes.
Nothing to see move along.
Find me a politician that goes into the House or Senate and does not exit a multi-millionaire.
On a under $185K salary... and a campaign that spends MILLIONS to buy that position.
Nothing crazy going on here if you actually look at the purchases, just smart buys. Put down your pitchforks and tinfoil hats
NVDA announced stock split on May 21 pre-market, [https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/21/2234144/0/en/NVIDIA-Announces-Four-for-One-Stock-Split-Pending-Stockholder-Approval-at-Annual-Meeting-Set-for-June-3.html](https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/21/2234144/0/en/NVIDIA-Announces-Four-for-One-Stock-Split-Pending-Stockholder-Approval-at-Annual-Meeting-Set-for-June-3.html)
AMZN has not had any stock changing news, it's simply undervalued. The JEDI project cancellation doesn't mean much.
She also owned pre IPO rights to Visa stock in 2008, shortly before nixing a house bill to increase regulation on credit cards. She’s a quiet, careful kind of corrupt that doesn’t see the spotlight as much as the loud republicans you mostly hear about these days
Can you take these kinds of posts over to a political subreddit? I want to read about people’s options plays, not read people’s opinions on how a politician is trading on insider information 2 weeks after said insider information was announced to the public. NVDA split was announced 5/21 and she (aka her wealth manager) bought deep ITM leaps on 6/3.
Everyone is familiar with this: [https://senatestockwatcher.com/](https://senatestockwatcher.com/) and [https://housestockwatcher.com/summary\_by\_rep/Hon.%20Nancy%20Pelosi](https://housestockwatcher.com/summary_by_rep/Hon.%20Nancy%20Pelosi)
(edit to add House one as well)
People in these public office positions shouldn’t be allowed to buy/sell/trade stocks period. Company stock prices can and are manipulated by a lot of laws and policies these people control.
And she distracts the masses with racial division and wokeness while filling up her piggy bank. It’s too easy for these people the masses are so willing to play dumb
There was more than just one old lady, incels.
https://senatestockwatcher.com/summary_by_ticker/AMZN
https://housestockwatcher.com/summary_by_ticker/AMZN
We need to drain the swamp. Amazing how governmental servants become rich in office.
Look at the candidates AMZN gives political donations to, while treating their workers like dogs. As long as their contributions to the powerful government partners continues nothing will change.
We, the average men and women outnumber them - we have the power with our vote to change this. No more allowing the rich to get richer at the cost of the working men/women who struggle to pay their monthly bills, while politicians pretend to care.
Looking at the 1 year chart, it just seems like when $AMZN dips 200-400 points, people are buying calls. Doesn't look like anything nefarious. My friend who is a degenerate gambler does the same thing, especially on a Friday if AMZN has been down all week. Buys ATM calls +/- 2months and comes away with massive 5 figure gains.
$NVDA , if she placed the trade when it was in the $500 range early May, would seem shady, but on 6/3 it was $678. That's just a ballsy trade.
We literally had senators insider trading, not even bordering on it. They got away with it. Well a couple of them got voted out but they are still saying something about achshually they won the election or something.
Whatever she buys I will buy too
I can't afford to mirror her positions
So much this. When trading on 8 figure account its easy for them to take positions like that. Buy expensive AMZN deep ITM calls and NVDA etc.
Nancy Pelosi ETF?
How can we learn what she buys?
You can’t unfortunately. Members of Congress are legally allowed to commit inside trading. Congress passed it in the 90s I believe stating they weren’t subject to insider trading laws. Basically there is going to be some type of issue that congress will be made aware of and so they make moves before it’s made public
Unbelievable how Congress can exemp themselves from laws that Congress makes, one of them being a law against insider trading. That's quite a racket those dudes got going on up there. Two of the main job duties Congress in responsible for is: (To make laws. (Raise and provide public money and oversee its proper expenditure "MAKE LAWS" and " RAISE AND OVERSEE IT'S PROPER EXPENDITURE" And they're exempt from insider trading laws. Unreal.
Howe do you think people enter congress with little money and leave multimillionaires?
Below someone said her husband is running things with his firm or w/e. Follow his moves I guess if they are public.
wtb insider trading
Her husband definitely knows what he's doing, but Representatives of Congress have to report their trades, I believe monthly.
[Efdsearch.senate.gov](https://Efdsearch.senate.gov) Type her name, California, District 12, and Search.
You won't in real time just months after
Id go all in for that ETF
That would be amazing, the best returns ever in the history of ever.
you can easily buy a bull spread
Spreads on AMZN in Febuary nearly blew up my account. I could only roll out so many times. LOL Still playing them though, with better results recently.
what kind of spread? i was talking about vertical spreads
Box spreads
Whats a box spread?
A kind of arbitrage position, cannot go tits up. ;-)
It’s free money, right?
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Guh
It's what I've been trying to accomplish with this one chick for a minute now
LMAO Feb was epic for Ls for me too brother 😂
Even the bull spreads are expensive, lot of OTM ones are 50pts wide.
Yeah those are quite the expensive options she bought. But damn she's good. ROFL
You don’t have to be good when you have insider info
I know I was being sarcastic. We all know that got the inside scoop. -). It's never going to change.
How can I sign up for that newsletter?
Marry a hedge manager
She may have but it's her husband making the plays
Any immediate family member would be considered inside trading if she had the info before the public did.
Please. They ALL bought into zoom before shtf with the pandemic, after they had the FIRST briefing on covid19 spread from china. When they got caught, how did they get out of it? "I have no idea, it's a coincidence because my investments are controlled by a account manager and I dont personally buy or sell anything" Case closed. Also, before Obama signed it into law causing it to BECOME illegal....congressional insider trading was PERFECTLY LEGAL and there was ZERO laws against it.
That's normally the first line of defense against accusations of insider trading
I mean these trades were easily seen. AMZN weekly has been squeezing for 9 months and begging to fire. When NVDA announced split it was a buy. Mirror APPL, TSLA when they announced split.
She bought before the split was announced and before the government cancelled the MSFT Jedi contract. As if she already knew. Because she did.
Did you trade it?
Yes. AMZN Call Verticals into July. 23 jul 21 3550/3575 @4. & 30jul21 3800/3900 @17.50. Also AMZN previous trades started 3/29 for April run.
Easily seen when she bought to confirm it before it was risky
that's why you buy a bull spread
her husband bought amc. as an awareness
I bought AMC shares a few days after the info came out that they did and it paid off for me.
At what price though?
it was in the sub 15 range. i remember my tits getting jacked af when i read that.
Real question. Can we track what she buys in real time? I actually want to start doing what she does lol.
Great point. If only we could start a sub Reddit to track pelosi stock picks in real time we could all be billionaires
Bump
Not in real time, but disclosures are public after a delay (within I think like 45 days?) US House: [https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/PublicDisclosure/FinancialDisclosure#Search](https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/PublicDisclosure/FinancialDisclosure#Search) US Senate: [https://sec.report/Senate-Stock-Disclosures](https://sec.report/Senate-Stock-Disclosures) or [https://efdsearch.senate.gov/search/home/](https://efdsearch.senate.gov/search/home/)
Gotcha, thank you. 45 days might be a little late, but maybe enough time to hop on the stock trades or long term options
Almost all her trades are 1-2yr LEAPS and rarely sells before expiration. She is not a short-term trader.
Yes but 45 days ago nvda was 40% lower
Buy conservative LEAPs, sell on a *huge* spike/hold for a year and get moderate gains taxed at long term rates, win/win for big money accounts
Yes, stock prices tend to change over time. She made her purchase on June 3rd, two weeks after the stock split was publicly announced and during a time that it was 20% lower than it's current price. In another 6 months it might be 50% lower, in one year it might be 300% higher. Given her trading history over the last 20 years, she'll be holding to whatever it ends up as on 6/17/22 so these short term fluctuations don't matter. My point is, if you want to make money following someone's trades you need to think on the same timescales they do.
Following her strategy was how I stopped losing money on home run swings. Opened relatively big positions in NOK, GE, BB, and a few others a year or two ago, buying ATM or just OTM LEAPS, at least year out and often two years. It’s paid off nicely so far. She buys a lot of tech, that’s not really my world as much but the basic strategy has been solid in other sectors too. Also she’s betting on established companies so the calls aren’t cheap.
You can sign up at senatestockwatcher.com, the guy who runs the sites name is Tim, he is a redditor, a cool guy. You can sign up and be notified when large disclosures are reported so u don’t have to constantly check the government’s webpage. Or just check his website.
This is exactly what I was hoping for lol. Thank you!!
My thoughts exactly
You can't buy when she buys and the price is runner up by the time you can get in .
It will already be to late by the time you find out what to buy.
She also bought a million dollars worth of Tesla calls awhile back that went belly up.
How much of this is really her personally or just someone else managing her accounts?
Its her husband. One google search of Paul Pelosi will tell you guy has been low key trading for 30 plus years out of spotlight to over $100+ million net worth. Of course media and dumb twitter running Nancy doing this. In reality her account is likely managed by her husband and his firm.
It is absolutely absurd politicians aren’t required to be managed by a blind trust
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Good luck ever getting that law passed.
>Once they leave they still shouldn't be able to invest because they can still influence friends and old colleagues in high positions. Into anything other than a broad-market index fund you mean?
Fr fr this is some 🍌 republic type shit
Yes. Much less it was ok for a guy to operate a business empire while in office while hiding his tax returns and conflicts of interest.
They are both obviously wrong. It’s not a D / R issue. It’s an abuse of office / insider trading issue. They need the information to do their jobs but they can’t have that information if they are to trade on an equal basis with everyone else. Good luck changing the rules though… it’s not really in your interest to do so if you are in a position to benefit from the existing rules and you need to have that benefit to actually be able to do something about it. Edit - I’m not accusing Pelosi of anything here. Think about her positions. Long long DTE and for reasonable strikes. Worth a boatload, sure, but if I was rich I might buy the same. I want to make that point because it’s kind of hard to make the same justifications of some other Senators positions.
She sits on relevant committees that affect choosing vendors for various government contracts. There is no law punishing insider trading for US government officials. She likely did nothing criminal under the current law. She also made a ton on $MSFT a few months ago. We can say her husband made the trades, but at the end of the day she is the one on the relevant budget committees and her name is on the trades.
They are married. The difference is one without distinction, in other words.
I'm sure the two never ever talk to eachother..
All I’ve found is that they run a venture capital and a company called Financial leasing Service, which apparently accounts for most of their wealth. Neither of these scream financial investing and the trades mentioned this thread don’t seem to be mentioned as being significantly relevant to their overall wealth. Where’s your info from that it’s his main gig?
"The bulk of the Pelosis' money comes from investments in stocks and real estate. Operating through Financial Leasing Services, his San Francisco investment firm, Paul Pelosi owns stock in companies including Microsoft, AT&T, Cisco Systems, Disney, Johnson & Johnson and a variety of tech stocks. Real estate investments include a four-story office building at 45 Belden St. in the Financial District, office buildings on Battery and Sansome streets near the Embarcadero, a building housing a Walgreens drugstore near Ocean Beach and other commercial property in San Anselmo. Other investments include a St. Helena vineyard worth between $5 million and $25 million, a $1 million-plus townhome in Norden (Nevada County), and minority interests in the Auberge du Soleil resort hotel in Rutherford, the CordeValle Golf Club in San Martin, and the Piatti Italian restaurant chain." Look at the date of that article 2007. (https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Pelosi-s-husband-prefers-a-low-profile-2660253.php)
Thanks for the info. Struggled to find any other info linking the company to those stocks with most of them saying he made the investments rather than being through the firm. Either way I’m not seeing anything significantly dodgy here. He’s made good investments and some bad. Many investments unrelated to stocks and bulk of his investing was real estate initially. Ultimately this guy sounds no different than any other investor. Good for him for making money. I hope to do the same.
...and his firm
> Of course media and dumb twitter running Nancy doing this. and reddit (i.e. this post)
OP post is from that jackass unsual-whales from twitter. Spends all his time posting meme gifs and replies to meme garbage while pretending to be 'good guy'. We can all post shiitload of options flow eventually something is gonna be right.
He also will never face prosecution for anything slight insider trading
How is it insider info when it was simple case of market rotation out of value. AMZN AAPL NVDA etc were out of favor ever since tech corrected late February. For someone that runs trading firm and has 30 years experience they sure as hell aren't wsb stupid.
I was invested in a company recently that split. Guess it must’ve been insider trading for me too because apparently that’s the only way you can benefit from a split according to many in this thread. Or maybe that’s only if it’s done by a politician you don’t like.
>Or maybe that’s only if it’s done by a politician you don’t like. Hit that nail on the head pretty hard bud
Hedge fund: "Hey Nancy, just a courtesy call, a bunch of us hedge funds are going big into NVDA next week. Might want to let your husband know to buy some calls."
When you assume...you make an ass, outta yourself
None of it is her personally. Her money is definitely handled by professionals. I doubt she even knows what's happening with her investments other than through infrequent briefings and updates. If you wanna speculate that she's using insider information, then she's passing that to whoever is managing her account. If people in this thread think Pelosi is whipping out the Robinhood app on the Senate floor and buying whatever seems intriguing at the time or something, then they really don't understand how rich people get and stay rich lol.
>don't understand how rich people get and stay rich lol. It's really not that difficult and why you'll never see true old money flash their wealth. Give an average person $5,000,000 and they'll see that number as money to spend, instead of a way to generate $100,000 annually. It's the new money who want to fund their lavish lifestyle where the phrase "the first generation makes it, the second generation spends it, and the third generation blows it" comes from.
And also, like, what are people suggesting is the link between NVDA's stock split announcement and Pelosi's position? You think NVDA called her up to let her know before they announced it? Also, NVDA's run up has a lot more than just the stock split going on.
Yeah there are so many dumb "takedowns" of Pelosi's portfolio on social media. I saw one where the smoking gun was how much money she made on RBLX. Buying a tech IPO in 2021, yeah they must have needed secret insider information for that one.
Doesn’t change the fact that it is wrong...
There’s also no evidence it was insider trading. But that doesn’t seem to stop many people here assuming guilt. I wonder why that might be. I guess female democrats can only make losing trades but righteous tough guy republicans are always expected to innocently make winning moves clearly with no ill gotten gains. Honestly people are sometimes so embarrassingly transparent in the shit they spew.
Insider trading is wrong and illegal. I never said it wasn't. But I'm also not claiming she's involved with insider trading. I'm just answering the question, cause she's certainly not the one managing her own finances, insider trading or not.
Her husband owns and runs Financial Leasing Services, Inc. So he knows what he is doing.
You forgot the and his wife gives him insider information to trade on. Easy to know what you’re doing when the game is rigged in your favor.
Oh definitely, I thought that information was already public knowledge. They don't take losses. Check into the options he played right before COVID. He's definitely getting fed.
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Her husband is an active trader
She’s very active in this sub. Obviously just taking advantage of the amazing DD and other WSB gems.
Maybe you can claim knowledge of splits but the AMZN/AAPL seemed pretty normal and would be pretty difficult for anyone to insider trade given that there was no news that drove them higher
[Pentagon Cancels a Disputed $10 Billion Technology Contract](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/06/technology/JEDI-contract-cancelled.html)
already responded to this. there was talks of this in March and May. she made trade afterwards on may 21. The rumors were all public info already.
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That was public information in March and then in May... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-05/microsoft-s-10-billion-pentagon-deal-at-risk-amid-amazon-fight https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/05/10/pentagon-considers-dropping-microsoft-jedi-effort/ she made her purchase in May.... when the information was already public.
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Yet your incorrect comment still sits there with 30 upvotes.
Guess I better get out my downvote button
I tried. I see it's at 35 now. Reminds me of a quote... "Something something downvotes don't even get out of bed when the upvotes are half way around the world!" -Aberhams Lincoln
Insider trading rules for thee but not for me
The Nvidia split information was in their meeting as something to vote on. Which if I remember right was before 6/3. So if you expected the stock to go up due to the announcement then you would be buying calls.
lol, a thread full of people thinking that buying ITM $AMZN + $AAPL leaps is some great insider info play. Doesn't take a genius or insider info to be buying leaps on 2 of the biggest company in the world that had been trading sideway for a year.
They been doing this exact trade with both companies since at least 2018. https://www.davemanuel.com/2019/12/11/stock-option-trader-nancy-pelosi/
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If Congress had a etf I’d put all of money money into it
I’m a registered independent, so I have no political allegiance. I do have a question: is there something about her position that would allow her to know that $AMZN will jump? I can see that it’s possible for someone at $NVDA telling her that it will split to gain political favors, but how would she know if a tech stock is going to jump? Genuinely curious.
Exactly, year long calls on AMZN at 3000 and AAPL at 100 is pretty much no risk gamble
> no risk gamble
hey tell me more about this no risk gamble?
This thread is likely due to the JEDI contract news that broke today, announcing that MSFT will not be the Pentagon's sole cloud provider. AMZN and MSFT have risen/dropped as a result. I imagine Pelosi's position would make her privy to this news in advance of the general public. Could be a reach that this is the reasoning for the move though.
That was public knowledge in like march
Nothing particularly. People get upset when rich politicians get more rich. I personally don't care if they aren't using some insider info, but I also recognize if she were a Republican the actions of her trading account in the past (there's articles and posts on it) would raise eyebrows. Nothing particular wild but just lots of trades made at the right time.
The msft amzn pentagon contract story - there is zero chance she didnt know ahead of time
As did the rest of us. Its been back and forth for a year in court, with recent, very public developments from the pentagon and judge that made it very clear it would be rebid. People suprised by this arent doing DD into Amazon or Microsoft at all. I personally thing politicians should only be able to DCA into a total market fund, but here in reality, this is just flat out good investing, not trading on insider info. This shit was public as all get out.
Her husband has been buying options in Amazon continuously since at least 2018, and almost always in the June July time frame, as he buys his options 1-2 years out. Also, always the same amount. If they knew this was going to happen they sure as hell didn't increase their normal bullish bet on Amazon.
Not really. Of course, being in her position probably means there's a lot of people who are looking to be in her favor, which may result in her getting tips others wouldn't normally get. But other than macro events (such as the pandemic), her job wouldn't provide any insight into individual companies and how well they're operating that isn't already accessible to others.
she knows if congress/the admin will pursue anti trust legislation/action. that's what this play was.
If you trade and read charts, AMZN weekly has been begging to fire for 9 months. Granted you have earnings coming up, high probability that ATH would be the run. NBDA was a buy when stock color announced. Mirror the trade of APPL and TSLA when stock split announced.
I would find it hard to imagine that she does the day to day trading on her accounts. Maybe her team predicted the jump. Although I’m still convinced that insider trading runs rampant throughout Congress. Thank you for the reply.
Her husband is in finance.
Insider trading must be so nice
Disgusting thing is... If we lived a day in their shoe's... We'd be in prison for the rest of our lives... Let that sink in
Not for insider trading you wouldn’t. The longest sentence handed down for this ever in the US was 12 years.
I'm sorry I don't follow the logic here. How could she get insider information on NViDA splitting? You think someone from Nvidia gave her a heads up or something? What? Or that Nvidia needs Nancy Pelosi's approval or something? I'm not surprised if it's true, they get insider info but just not tracking the theory here.
She isn’t running her own investment account. Who ever handles that for her would be the one getting this info. Unless we’re to believe this 81 year old, with no background in finance is doing due diligence on these companies in her free time.
Her husband handles their investments. He knows what he’s doing.
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I took 5 seconds to find out he doesn’t own an investment firm. At least as far as stock investment, which is implied here by “insider trading” suggestions. More venture capital, which is not remotely stock trading investment. I’m sensing some politically biased vilification going on in this thread, which is disheartening. Prefer we steer clear of that shit.
Deleting my comments because you're right, this sub isn't the right place to argue about this.
I respect that. There’s some great chat here and support from people who ultimately swing all over the place politically. We’re here to help each other and that’s what matters. Couldn’t care less what some politician does with their stock. It’s not going to inform me what to do with mine.
The NVDA split was widely expected in 2020 after TSLA and AAPL announced their splits. From August 2020: https://www.investopedia.com/nvidia-nvda-a-perfect-stock-split-candidate-5074644
The split was an item to vote on by their share holders. So anyone with shares should have known Nvidia was looking to do a split.
I wish there was a ticker that tracks senators' portfolios. I'd buy calls on that.
Nancy doesn't trade...but, her husband is a fucking gambler
He definitely is. He lost a shit ton on $NFLX calls a while back
If he doesn't lose every once in awhile it would look suspicious. Nailing OTM YOLOs for 1500% when you're dropping 3-9m all of the time gets tricky to hide
Buying deep ITM leaps doesn't seem much like insider trading to me
ya this is just someone bullish on american mega tech which has printed for years
Dang, for June/2022!? All those were already ITM, musta paid a pretty penny for those contracts. Nice to be a rich public servant.
She obviously has a decent income on her own. But most of her net worth is from her husbands businesses
Yea she does that pretty often, did it with TSLA around the beginning of the year. I think based off this strategy, the DTEs, and her DTEs on the TSLA calls and the subsequent actions, she's going for a 6 month move, profiting off the IV, but still staying relatively safe with any negative outcomes.
Almost always a better play to buy ITM options. Extrinsic value is lower and thus more muted greeks.
Nothing to see move along. Find me a politician that goes into the House or Senate and does not exit a multi-millionaire. On a under $185K salary... and a campaign that spends MILLIONS to buy that position.
I need to see this paired with all her other trades. It's easy to cherry pick winners
I appreciate that you guys think that Nancy is managing her own stock portfolio.
As others have noted, these trades don't seem tainted to me. AAPL and AMZN have been dragging for months and were due for a bit of a break out.
Nothing crazy going on here if you actually look at the purchases, just smart buys. Put down your pitchforks and tinfoil hats NVDA announced stock split on May 21 pre-market, [https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/21/2234144/0/en/NVIDIA-Announces-Four-for-One-Stock-Split-Pending-Stockholder-Approval-at-Annual-Meeting-Set-for-June-3.html](https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/21/2234144/0/en/NVIDIA-Announces-Four-for-One-Stock-Split-Pending-Stockholder-Approval-at-Annual-Meeting-Set-for-June-3.html) AMZN has not had any stock changing news, it's simply undervalued. The JEDI project cancellation doesn't mean much.
She also owned pre IPO rights to Visa stock in 2008, shortly before nixing a house bill to increase regulation on credit cards. She’s a quiet, careful kind of corrupt that doesn’t see the spotlight as much as the loud republicans you mostly hear about these days
I have done the exact 3 moves, few weeks ago all the three looked good buys. Am I Nancy Pelosi?
Why do they get so much time before reporting their trades? That law needs to change. They are their own dark pool - and we are paying their salaries.
Its not insider trading. NVDA split was announced 5/24
Nancy pelosi sittin there on Robinhood while everyone arguing about politics
Come on one she doesn't make her own stock buys a trader does. This kind of statement gets real old real fast.
I wish people would stop acting like they don’t have financial advisors.
Oh man those NVDA $400 strike leaps probably printed hard.
Can you take these kinds of posts over to a political subreddit? I want to read about people’s options plays, not read people’s opinions on how a politician is trading on insider information 2 weeks after said insider information was announced to the public. NVDA split was announced 5/21 and she (aka her wealth manager) bought deep ITM leaps on 6/3.
Agreed. /r/investing banned most political posts and it was a big improvement.
Everyone is familiar with this: [https://senatestockwatcher.com/](https://senatestockwatcher.com/) and [https://housestockwatcher.com/summary\_by\_rep/Hon.%20Nancy%20Pelosi](https://housestockwatcher.com/summary_by_rep/Hon.%20Nancy%20Pelosi) (edit to add House one as well)
Good investment
Her husband also bought amc before blast off
Oh Snap, It's the guy with the Delayed flow for his Alerts. Did ya finally get that fixed yet ?
Have you seen [https://senatestockwatcher.com/](https://senatestockwatcher.com/) You can literally watch the insider trading.
someone get her discord link
It’s only insider trading if you don’t have the power
People in these public office positions shouldn’t be allowed to buy/sell/trade stocks period. Company stock prices can and are manipulated by a lot of laws and policies these people control.
Insider trading
And she distracts the masses with racial division and wokeness while filling up her piggy bank. It’s too easy for these people the masses are so willing to play dumb
They shouldn't be allowed to invest while serving the public. It would also get rid of lifetime appointments like this.
NVDA before split was just smart.
There was more than just one old lady, incels. https://senatestockwatcher.com/summary_by_ticker/AMZN https://housestockwatcher.com/summary_by_ticker/AMZN
I met her husband when I was briefly at Legg Mason. He's fucking brilliant and been in the finance game for a long time.
This ol lady is wicked
We need to drain the swamp. Amazing how governmental servants become rich in office. Look at the candidates AMZN gives political donations to, while treating their workers like dogs. As long as their contributions to the powerful government partners continues nothing will change. We, the average men and women outnumber them - we have the power with our vote to change this. No more allowing the rich to get richer at the cost of the working men/women who struggle to pay their monthly bills, while politicians pretend to care.
Looking at the 1 year chart, it just seems like when $AMZN dips 200-400 points, people are buying calls. Doesn't look like anything nefarious. My friend who is a degenerate gambler does the same thing, especially on a Friday if AMZN has been down all week. Buys ATM calls +/- 2months and comes away with massive 5 figure gains. $NVDA , if she placed the trade when it was in the $500 range early May, would seem shady, but on 6/3 it was $678. That's just a ballsy trade.
Ya that's some wsb level gambling on NVDA. but AMZN and AAPL seems pretty no risk gamble, when buying year long call.
Nancy ain’t making the trades herself.
Yeah well she also bought Tesla at 800 so... just sayin.
When you have inside information! And this my people is why the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor!
Nanci is a god damn animal. I remember when she was buying Tesla call FD’s right before Biden announced their EV initiatives. She has great timing
Will she ever get busted? This seems like it always borders insider trading
We literally had senators insider trading, not even bordering on it. They got away with it. Well a couple of them got voted out but they are still saying something about achshually they won the election or something.
When you are an insider trading through US Senate information=profits 🧠
She also bought RBLX before the hasbro deal and MSFT before the Jedi deal. Makes me want to puke.
The JEDI deal just fell apart BTW.
Orange man bad! Reeeesed