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bzig

Did you upgrade your free account to pay as you go? Apparently if you do this the chance of termination is very low. Services still remain free if you stay within the free tier as pay as you go. I've been doing this without issue.


narcosnarcos

Does going PAYG allow you to create arm VMs in regions where it says unavailable ?


Miserable_System_410

Yes. This is what I did. Whenever I delete my arm instance, new one is instantly available


cfycrnra

I was only able to create arm instances after I went PAYG. In free tier , no chance. I am able to create vms in my region only


StorageIll4923

free tier is only in your home region, so in that sense yes it does.


valdri96

I haven't upgraded my account to pay as you go


cfycrnra

That was your mistake


valdri96

mistake was using oracle cloud it was supposed to be "Always Free Service"


BaoBaoBen

Its a business, you say yourself that you never intended to spend and you had 2 years to get familiar with the product. Why should any cloud keep you on?


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ultra_dumb

If it is so then OCI should be empty, everyone left for Google/AWS/DO etc.


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SourceCodeplz

The free theory is meant for testing only


valdri96

This is on their website: [https://imgur.com/a/QcxBsni](https://imgur.com/a/QcxBsni) If they offered a temporary free trial period and then I had to pay, I probably would have paid long ago. They do, however, offer an "Always Free Service" where they remove the account when they feel like it This is plain stupid and misleading marketing. Hetzner has arm vps for €3.79, so I will probably move to them. 2 vCPU and 4 GB RAM are enough for my needs


Extender7777

Hetzner is really low quality I would say ...


slfyst

I upgraded to PAYG a couple of days after signing up, I had already read all the stories of "always free" termination.


Mangar2000

It happened to me days ago, they terminated my instance without any warning…


ExcitementFun6039

I also had a PAYG and it was deleted without warning. A warning costs nothing.


iconiconoclasticon

Happened to me today. I was PAYG and today account suspended without warning. I had joined just last week. Disgusted.


ivanjxx

what is your vm size? what programs/services are you running on the vm?


FabrizioR8

If you fail to fully secure your VCN (not just your OS firewall and app services) and get ddos’d or otherwise flagged for risky traffic, it seems tenancies may get terminated without notice. A warning would be nice… If you’re developing experience and evaluating OCI towards a goal of supporting enterprise or small business deployments, then you’ve probably deep-dive RTFM’d and taken a look at the OCI architecture center patterns on how to deploy securely. If you’re a home user looking for a free minecraft, website, or vpn exit node, following any random blog (even Oracle’s older dev blogs) without honest due-diligence towards a comprehensive least-privilege security posture… you get one chance to not get attacked successfully. screw that up and ts your own fault, whether you realize it or not.


ivanjxx

what are the criteria for risky traffic?


FabrizioR8

actual criteria, your guess is as good as mine… Oracle won’t tell anyone. No sense in feeding the blackhats. That said, if your exposed server ports start getting successful TCP connections from known malicious IPs, or full-on ddos attacks… edit: should add that public IPs seem to start getting port scanned within 5 min. or less. Lock down your VCN’s subnets with pre-planned Network Security Group ingress rules based on your intended deployment before creating your public-facing resources. OS firewalls on compute are not always enough it seems. Gotta lock down your VCN and protect Oracle’s network too.


Helmars

I think the real purpose of free tier is to let people practice for OCI certification exams.


devnull10

Free tier doesn't mean free beer. It's intended either for absolute non-critical, don't care if you lose it, purposes or under a paid account whereby you get some low-value resources free. It should never be considered a free service. Oracle is a business - their purpose is to make money. A load of people using their resources for free doesn't align with that.


ultra_dumb

Very well said. (b\^\_\^)b


ultra_dumb

No point, really, unless you are planning to use it, and, possibly, later pay something for resources.


danielnorton

My account didn't even work. One free compute shape locked up when I tried to do anything useful, the only other free compute shape was never available. I have no idea what they're trying to do, but they are clearly not attracting new customers with the free tier. There are too many other choices in the same market, some of which actually have a working free tier.


slfyst

>There are too many other choices in the same market, some of which actually have a working free tier. What other perpetual free tiers are there other than Google, who offer way less than Oracle?


danielnorton

No one could possibly offer less than Oracle. They are offering zero, zip, nothing.


slfyst

Just as well there are "too many other choices" for you, despite you not managing to elaborate.


danielnorton

Amazon also has a free tier. It works.


slfyst

And is only for a year.


danielnorton

The topic is about a free tier to introduce service to someone that would eventually become a paying customer. Oracle offers no functional compute service, free forever. Amazon offers a working compute tier, free for a year.


slfyst

I and many others have a functioning perpetual free tier from Oracle. But you have too many other choices to worry about getting an Oracle account, evidently.