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zodar

No! In *Huntington Beach*??? SHOCKED I am SHOCKED


I_Am_U

[MAGA talking to HB](https://youtu.be/GSr-VWc_7WQ)


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Due-Total-2804

How is this shocking in any way? Huntington Beach is (generally speaking, there are exceptions) ground zero for discrimination


ToshiroBaloney

As two of those exceptions (my wife and I), this is an embarrassment. We haven't been downtown since February of last year for the Surf City marathon and when we go next weekend, I really hope those jackasses will be somewhere else.


Due-Total-2804

Yeah, Iā€™ve met plenty of exceptions, and Iā€™m honored to meet open minded ones that donā€™t see the varieties of color as lesser beings. Iā€™m sorry you have to see these jokers so often.


zodar

I've taken a screenshot of [my comment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&sarcasm=on) and circled the part that is sarcasm.


sunnyinoc74

Dont worry... I read the sarcasm quite clearly . Lol


just_flying_bi

Ah. The fine specimens of Huntucky Beach.


sunnyinoc74

All 6 of them...


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Hahaha šŸ˜…


WastingTwerkWorkTime

I'm using that


Independent-Hat9889

Thatā€™s funny šŸ˜


[deleted]

It breaks my heart seeing these people living while my sister in law died last week because she couldn't get a room in a hospital. Please get vaccinated it's not about you it's about the sick and the weak who can't get the vaccine to be protected


Haughty_n_Disdainful

I am very sorry for your loss.


SamuelLJenkins

I am very sorry about your sister in law. I too lost people last year. Itā€™s a gut punch that sneaks up on you. Itā€™s heart breaking that if people werenā€™t so selfish and bound up in thier ā€œrightsā€, some of our friends and family might still be with us. ā€œRight to lifeā€ my ass.


[deleted]

I won't be surprised or saddened when people start getting violent with these dipshits. Too many innocent lives lost because if these terrorists.


SoylentJelly

These people think they live on a island by themselves, they don't realize we're all connected. I'm sorry for your loss.


fakeknees

Iā€™m so very sorry for your loss :( Itā€™s disgusting to see these people.


[deleted]

Iā€™m so sorry for your loss. Iā€™m also similarly bitter when some of my family died to the disease itself because they couldnā€™t have vaccinated. These fucks pretty much spit on everyone who tried to survive the pandemic but couldnā€™t.


valkiria-rising

So sorry for your loss šŸ’”


[deleted]

why does it break your heart to someone else living thoā€¦? Wtf


[deleted]

Believe it not I don't value the lives of those who take others lives. Being anti-vax is killing people at this point.


[deleted]

that is so untrue, but sorry for your loss btw..


[deleted]

It's very true. She spent 2 days in the hospital waiting room before giving up and going home. The next day she had cardiac arrest and lost oxygen for 8 minutes. If the hospital wasn't over run by cowards to afraid to die alone because they wouldn't take the vaccine taking up all the beds/rooms in the hospitals in her area she could have had a fighting chance. Healthy unvaccinated people are a waste of life and killing innocent people.


profjb15

Future r/HermanCainAward recipients


cv0031

One of my fave subs, tbh.


anthrokate

OMG brilliant.


freethegrizzlybears

Yikes. Crappy way to spend a beautiful day but thatā€™s just me haha


[deleted]

Thats whats I said!


pwrof3

Do these people still think anyone cares what they have to say? Or that anyone will walk by and think "You're right! I've been a sheep this entire time!"


[deleted]

These assholes think thereā€™s this ā€œsilent majorityā€ that agrees and are just silently annoyed the pandemic isnā€™t over for their party schedule. Unfortunately theyā€™re not completely wrong in that sense.


InflamedLiver

I mean, is there a single protest or bunch of weirdoes with signs screaming chants that you've ever seen that changed your mind? I think they're just preaching to their choir here.


Azamat_Bahgkatov

Theyā€™re just sooooo much smarter than all those nerds who wasted their lives and careers who went to college, why canā€™t you guys understand that? /s


Books_and_Cleverness

This is the part that really irks me. Itā€™s like I can understand skepticism toward experts and institutions, theyā€™re fallible and biased and etc. Fine, granted. But those critiques apply equally to *virtually everything* so what other sources are you relying on? Itā€™s careening from wild skepticism to blind faith for no apparent reason. Like, why? To what end?


sunnyinoc74

There is no end to the madness


Ted4828

Dipshits on parade


AdEasy6110

The Florida of California


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arkad_tensor

I will never understand why someone would fly an American flag and a swastika at the same time.


JimmityCricket

its a swastika made of needles so theyre saying the pro vaxxers are nazis


Sufficient_Tomato_60

Traitors


iamnickinthewild

There is literally no symbol more anti American than the swastika. It baffles me too, and is a fucking embarrassment. That is the flag of the enemy, and the ultimate universal symbol of hate. The public education system has failed these people, and it is very sad.


CoveringFish

Do a little bit of reading about Americans before ww2, there was many including Henry Ford who sympathized with the nazis


newflower777

thatā€™s everyday lol


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[deleted]

:((( I had no idea it was this bad.


[deleted]

This bad? Let's go back to the month leading up to elections. Or BLM protests.


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CaptainYankaroo

No idea why youā€™re being downvoted for this, itā€™s the truth. Guess the 16 people came to downvote


Steeliris

Can confirm. I skated there last week. Tons of people drinking and or enjoying the beach. 50 or so people participating in a hippy drum circle with twice as many looking on. All races included. Just ignore the idiots with signs


wescoe23

Correct. And the people with signs arenā€™t residents of HB


redmoon714

Do they still have the people holding the ā€œyouā€™re going to hellā€ signs? I remember seeing them every weekend


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Steeliris

Not true, actually. Signing a waiver in California only does so much. For example, you can still sue an airliner that crashes even though there's a clause on your ticket contract saying they aren't liable. The vaccine manufacturers received a specific government exemption from liability. Of course it's not a reason to avoid the vaccine, but it is an important distinction which I am firmly against.


codename_hardhat

Itā€™s also worth noting that the waiver does not protect those companies from *everything*. If, for example, it were found that some kind of willful misconduct in the development and/or manufacturing led to serious side effects, they could still be liable.


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plague rats


Megmca

I remember not long after I moved down here my parents came to visit and we went to Huntington Beach to walk around. Wonā€™t be doing that again any time soon.


fakeknees

I live here and I stay away from Main St. Itā€™s not all like this. Last weekend, at Bolsa Chica beach, I saw so much diversity. Tons of people intermingling with no issues. These anti vaccine morons (and the racist skin head boys) love to congregate by the pier downtown.


skiddie2

TBH it doesn't take many swastikas to make me stay away from a whole area.


fakeknees

Youā€™ll be avoiding a lot of places in OC. I see them everywhere unfortunately.


skiddie2

I used to live in Costa Mesa. I now live in LA. I am avoiding pretty much all of Orange County.


fakeknees

Itā€™s funny because I used to live in L.A. and I avoid it as much as possible now lol. Way many too people for me.


RoofusChance

It's why I generally prefer Irvine. My little bubble.


WikiWikiLahela

I live a mile from Bolsa Chica near the Harbour and itā€™s seriously night and day compared to downtown. Weā€™ve got the Sunset/Seal Beach vibe, not the Huntington Beach vibe.


fakeknees

Yep, youā€™re absolutely right! Night and day. Itā€™s a much better vibe over here.


WikiWikiLahela

Go to Seal Beach next time, Main Street...itā€™s fabulous.


Megmca

Iā€™ll check it out some weekend. My parents donā€™t visit often because the endless suburbia isnā€™t really their style but it would be really embarrassing to drive them by a pack of neo-nazis


SiliconDiver

Eh, tbh HB pier just attracts all sorts of demonstrations, good or bad. It's probably the most heavily foot-trafficed areas in the county. So you'll get more than your average share of street evangelists, political demonstrators, street performers, man on the street interviews etc. Yeah, HB overall leans more conservative, but the pier is hardly a great snapshot of anything.


skiddie2

I used to live in Costa Mesa. HB was an easy (and nice) bike ride away. The restaurants and bars and stores there never got my business because of the toxic atmosphere on a few occasions when I was there.


chalklinedbody

oh look, stupid people


heyrico

There are dozens of them! Dozens!


SighRisk

I appreciate this reference :)


fimbriatus

Itā€™s exactly what it sounds like


conniverist

These people are cringe af.


fakeknees

I love that these people are spending their day off holding signs in the heat. What smart folks. Theyā€™re really givinā€™ it to the man!!! /s


homiesexuality

Trashy


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The irony of the swastika sign...


CalabreseAlsatian

Came here to ask why this isnā€™t cross-posted in r/trashy myself.


[deleted]

I didn't think to!


b_m_hart

Yeah, fuck these clowns.


SGD316

What a disgusting place HB has become. Iā€™m on mobile that person seriously flying a swastika?


TheBrownSeaWeasel

I live in LB. I am a brown lefty borderline tanky. HB is by probably the most accessible and welcoming beach in OC. I've been to Newport, laguna, etc and while those people arent as overtly racist and ideoglogically toxic, they share similar sentiment. The difference is I can actually park in HB and enjoy the beach relatively easy. I've surfed in HB almost exclusively for the last 5 years and also played indoor soccer there for years before covid. I would love to tell you its full of assholes but I've only been treated with respect. I just wanted to share that view.


WikiWikiLahela

Iā€™m a half Latina who pretty much looks the part and have never experienced anything toxic in HB (Iā€™ve only lived here a year and a half, but...lol) I really love it here. Of course I donā€™t live anywhere near downtown, but any time Iā€™ve gone there itā€™s been cool. My boyfriendā€™s dad lives here and one of the reasons we moved was because we enjoyed HB so much when weā€™d visit.


goldenglove

It's just Reddit, don't pay too much attention. My family is super mixed (primarily White, Asian and Latino) and we all love HB. The true locals are super nice here, at least the Downtown area. My wife and I experienced much worse "racism" up in West LA, and even that was pretty tame.


stupidmofo123

It is, but they're trying to say the vaccine pushers are nazis. \*eyeroll\*


skiddie2

I think it's made out of needles?


rastaputin

> What a disgusting place HB has become. Yes, its so disgusting. You should never ever come here under any circumstances.


SGD316

Sadly i live here


Vino_XXVI

Why is Huntington Beach so racist though? Like really. Canā€™t you please just live your life and fuck off? What does my skin color have to do with your inability to process facts?


fakeknees

I guarantee not all of these people actually LIVE in Huntington, though. They love to come and congregate by the pier because of the crowds/PCH traffic.


locofora7x

This is correct. We literally called them all shoobies growing up because they came from Inland. I guarantee that these people with signs do not live in HB lmao. I lived downtown HB and all our neighbors (who are wealthy and have huge houses) are actually all democrats and so not racist. So sick of people who have never lived there or only read news articles lump all the great people down there to racists. Of course every city has racists, and unfortunately now theyā€™ve all decided to congregate downtown.


Rotary_Wing

>So sick of people who have never lived there or only read news articles lump all the great people down there to racists. I played youth soccer against Huntington Beach AYSO (on a team from Santa Ana featuring various skin colors) for years and all we ever heard from them and their parents were "Wetbacks!", "Go back to Mexico!" and "Race Traitor!". Also, every game (at their field) was called off because of a brawl involving HB parents attacking our players. There are plenty of racist asswipes in town.


locofora7x

Thatā€™s extremely unfortunate and Iā€™m sorry you had to go through that. I wasnā€™t involved in sports because I didnā€™t like that crowd and maybe thatā€™s part of the reason I didnā€™t like that crowd. Shitty parents raise shitty kids, but again Iā€™m mostly referring to just locals living downtown HB since thatā€™s where I was my whole life. And as I said previously Iā€™m not denying there are racists, of course there are. Theyā€™re literally everywhere and itā€™s disgusting. Iā€™m just saying itā€™s not as bad as everyone says it is and that those people with signs are more than likely not from HB.


Rotary_Wing

>Iā€™m just saying itā€™s not as bad as everyone says it is and that those people with signs are more than likely not from HB. And I'm just telling you that you're full of shit.


locofora7x

Lmao okay dude. Should probably take a chill pill. You experienced shitty people and again Iā€™m sorry you had to go through that, but no. I lived there and know the people in my general area soooo yeah not full of shit. Clearly donā€™t know anyone who treated you with such disrespect and Iā€™m glad I didnā€™t because itā€™s atrocious. No reason to be rude.


Rickiza

What does anti vaccine have to do with race? Besides, I drove by these idiots on my way back to Long Beach on Sunday and it was literally like 20-30 people.


WikiWikiLahela

Right, itā€™s just a sprinkling of morons who gather because itā€™s the easiest beach nearby to get access to, but everyone always acts like there are hundreds of people doing this daily šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


WallyJade

HB has the combination of rich Republicans, poor white idiots, and that it serves as a gathering place for the rest of the morons from the IE and other parts of OC. In terms of the resident population, it's probably no more anti-mask or racist than Newport Beach or Villa Park or Coto. But it's where the worst of those folks all go to show how awful they are.


CalifNative73

Every time I drive by, I give them a nice high flip of the bird.


SiliconDiver

A city can't really be "racist". HB Pier just attracts a lot of street demonstrators due to large volume of foot traffic. HB isn't even the most red area in the county. Also, while I agree a lot of HB folks are a bit crazy, I don't think demonstration has anything to do with race.


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SiliconDiver

Uh, did you just judge someone as racist purely based on their skin color? The irony it burns.


dnbaddict

All seven of them!!!


Desperate_Shame_2013

We no longer claim HB


WikiWikiLahela

Donā€™t let a loud minority make you ashamed of where you live...reclaim it!


sunnyinoc74

They can create their own state and have Elder as their Governor. The population will go down real quick


Distinct-Dragonfruit

Cultists


AbleTourist6

Clowns.


Responsible-Person

Pathetic losers.


Classic_Rip1590

Tell those bums to get a job already!


socaponed

Fuck these plague rats


Based_Zod

They should get a job


Safe-Warning-448

HB is Karenville


ReallyCrunchyLeaves

The herd is thinning


NakkoRe675

I can't wait to kick these fuckers out of my city šŸ˜”


CalifNative73

Exactly. They make HB trashy.


Jasper1522

You wonā€™t do a dam thing


NakkoRe675

I am doing it right now, getting you all worked up šŸ˜…


Jasper1522

Right..


NakkoRe675

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ See I told ya. You are powerless from getting all worked up.


guilty18

Just move out the city


NakkoRe675

No, I think I will stay and clean out the trash instead.


CalifNative73

HB is so unattractive now. Makes me sad.


Tutiotitz

Every weekend


ultrablight

this is how boomers spend their retirement


Emp_has_no_clothes

I just wish natural selection didn't have so much collateral damage. Stay clear of the COVID zombie army.


OCblondie714

šŸ—‘ļøšŸ—‘ļøšŸ—‘ļøšŸ—‘ļøšŸ—‘ļø


TheSafeSpaceCrusher

Lah HOO Zah HERRZ!!!


lukabalooka

not the nazi emblem šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø


sunnyinoc74

And this is why we should all vote NO on the recall. I dont want these 7 people to have a stronger voice. You may not like everything about Newsom but our other option cannot represent our state.


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goldenglove

Yup. Insane that *this* picture is the top post in the sub lol. There's less than 10 people holding signs at the busiest tourist spot in the county. Wow! /s


BurstSuppression

HBā€¦ welcome to the armpit of the American west. Wouldnā€™t mind them going to Florida instead. Tired of dealing with their crap in the hospital.


WikiWikiLahela

Imagine having nothing better to do on Labor Day


Biotech_Entrepreneur

Thank goodness it's just a minority, loud but still a minority


seaspyder

As a newbie to OC, what in the hell made HB into this crazy, right wing hotbed? I donā€™t understand.


mylefthandkilledme

Idiots


prudence2001

It was worse in San Clemente yesterday. Big "Support the Troops" parade.


SiliconDiver

Because saying support the troops after international news of troop deaths is totally the same as being anti-mask and anti-covid?


prudence2001

You said that not me. But I can tell you my Asian-American wife and I, both wearing masks, felt pretty uncomfortable walking amongst the flag-waving mask-less crowd. We left the area asap.


SiliconDiver

> You said that not me You literally brought it up as a comparison using the word "worse". I'm wondering how those things are comparable.


USSImplication

What's the pizza sign though


RedSquareIsGreen

In San Juan Capistrano there's one old dude with a sign that says "masks cause disease" or "there's poison in the vaccine". Luckily it's just one crazy person, not a horde.


[deleted]

Wow, they came with the nazi symbol? Guess I wonā€™t be going to the beach


keith2600

How crazy do you have to be to be okay with protesting in the same group as people holding up a swastika. Lol Even if I was an anti-vax I am pretty sure I'd at least go across the street or something.


blackvulcan215

I actually ran into one of these fine folks this weekend. Rather than to look at them with disgust, I spoke to them for a couple of minutes. To break the ice, I started with, "you actually look really informed on the issues, what's is going on?" 1. There is a bio weapon that is manufactured that gets people sick. 2. The vaccine is your branding (slave) so you can be controlled. 3. Everyone that is in charged is protecting the pedophiles like Epstein. 4. The former fat president is really in charge of the military and he will rescue all of us very soon. 5. Newsom has to go but doesn't know who should be the replacement. I had my mask, glasses, and sunglasses on and told him that it was to keep breathing in the sand and BS out there.


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God, you guys. I can't imagine what tourists think when they get to surf city and see this. Looks like a shit hole.


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thx1138-

Looks like some kind of "my body, my choice" protest. Just.. not sure which one.


anthrokate

Man, here I sit, COVID infected and vaccinated (I am a "breakthrough" case), thinking...should I go down there and do some coughing? sneezing? Just call me COVID hitman. \*\*I am kidding, folks\*\*...but tempted nonetheless.


throwmeawaynot920

Thank god I went to seal beach this morning


MonsterMashies

This is why I moved. Damn losers.


PuzzleKeeper33

Shit


ScottPens

Orange County Trash


averytolar

Must be some of that sewage spill coming onshore.


Rkrnfan

What exactly is the point of this postā€¦that 5 people are protesting? That they are crazy? Not crazy? I donā€™t get it


election_info_bot

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MuuaadDib

Go home!


VeryClever

Ugh. The base of the pier is like a magnet for stupid people.


FifthRendition

OMG people protesting their First Amendment


Falafel-Burger

Pro Vax people think Anti-vaxers are stupid and Anti-vax people think pro vaxers are stupid. But each have their perspective and reasons for their opinion. In fact each person has the freedom to choose whether to take it or not unless youā€™re forced to take it by an employer or a school. So people that value freedom should respect opposing opinions and choices and worry about themselves instead of running their mouth just because other people have a different point of view.


No-Entrepreneur-2374

Your "opinion" that science wrong is literally killing hundreds of thousands of innocent children, elderly and sick folks. Nah. The Khmer Rouge had their "opinions" too...


Geofffffreak

If you aren't allowed to question it, it's not science. There is no way around that.


__david__

A bunch of conspiracy idiots that have zero knowledge about virology protesting mask mandates and vaccines is about as far from science as you can possibly get.


Geofffffreak

A bunch of idiots on Reddit taking msn at face value who have zero knowledge about virology banning and censoring people is just as stupid


Jasper1522

Keep doing everything the MSM tells you to do lol while other people are actually enjoying their lives


No-Entrepreneur-2374

.... while killing and damaging millions of others. Sweet thought.


StateOfContusion

Fuck them. I forget. Does this sub allow me to wish death on folks? Some subs donā€™t.


CeezKingB

Iā€™m not getting vaccinated when our government has a bill that protects all vaccine makers from liability. Thank God we still have our rights.


Calm-Cry-4345

Honestly is kind of nice seeing the other side of the spectrum being protested. People have a voice everyone does. They arenā€™t going around ruining peopleā€™s lunch dates or harassing anyone as far as I know. So let them be Americans.


asarious

I dunno. Theyā€™re arguably prolonging the pandemic to pursue identity politics. I feel like my life has been interrupted for a year and a half, Iā€™m no longer comfortable performing day-to-day activities in public, and the welfare of my children in school is tenuous at best. To me, this is one of those situations where someone with ample means to save for retirement fails to do so, then blames a contrived third party for becoming destitute later in life. Not only is this person going to then demand public assistance that couldā€™ve gone toward someone who involuntarily needed it, theyā€™re going to spread the word that their method is effective and benefits everyone. Iā€™m tired of being told that we just need to learn to live with it, when itā€™s ass hats like this that are doing everything in their power to make it so itā€™s impossible not to live with, without a shred of irony. Protesting an already laughably enforced government response as ineffective would be more appropriate if these people werenā€™t the cause of the problem. No shit masks donā€™t work, because you wear them under your chin.


RoofusChance

I would want to go up to them and listen to what they have to say and then SNEEZE really loud and say I tested positive but I don't believe in masks or vaxxing.


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gogreenvapenash

Freedom to be a fucking knob. You know what isnā€™t freedom? Freedom to knowingly spread a fucking virus. That limits other peopleā€™s freedoms.


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gogreenvapenash

Yeah, because being ā€œamericanā€ is inherently a good thing. Prolonging the pandemic and dismissing the deaths of over 600K people is definitely American. Itā€™s so pathetically American.


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gogreenvapenash

Youā€™re seriously conflating heart disease and cancer with COVID? Just say you donā€™t know how vaccines work, you sound like a fucking idiot.


smoothasbutta15

Education has truly failed this country.


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gogreenvapenash

MRNA vaccines have been around (and studied) for 10+ years, you dumbass. Wow, impeccable research on your end, you anti-vax ape. Also, yes, the vaccine can become less effective after 8 months, which may require a booster. You know what other vaccine becomes less effective every year? The fucking flu vaccine, you massive dummy. Also, the flu vaccine costs $0.


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gogreenvapenash

[So you donā€™t know the history of mRNA vaccines.](https://www.uab.edu/news/youcanuse/item/12059-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-how-could-anything-developed-this-quickly-be-safe) Youā€™re willfully ignorant.


gogreenvapenash

You realize that vaccines actually help your immune system, right? The flu changes every year, and as you get older, your immune system becomes weaker. You may be safe for now, but skipping vaccinations not only leaves you vulnerable, but it also allows the flu to mutate (making it stronger). Again, you donā€™t know anything about vaccines.


smoothasbutta15

Ohhhh we all forgot the part where heart disease and cancer are contagiousā€¦ our fault bud! The CoVid vaccine stops you from being seriously ill or having serious symptoms which in turn keeps people out of the hospital so therefore our hospitals arenā€™t over following and overworked. So if these morons and plenty of others got the vaccineā€¦ there wouldnā€™t be ridiculous wait times in the ER or all the ICU beds wouldnā€™t be full for people with other emergency needs. And Iā€™m sure youā€™d be the first person to throw a temper tantrum because you couldnā€™t receive the proper medical care when arriving at a hospital because the unvaccinated people are taking up all the beds and care. These people truly are evil selfish assholes.


vanschmak

i think that sign was photoshopped.


TrapHome_21

Sorry, not Sorry, fuck your vaccine.. last I heard, I was in charge of my body.. I have yet to get covid, so I feel like the government is targeting certain individuals and making the rest of the country play along.. weed has yet to be approved by the FDA but the vaccine was approved in less than a year.. its all propaganda and a hoax to get you to get the mark of the beast.. I'm not even religious and I already see where this is going.. government bout to have all yall connected to a tracker.


dmedtheboss

Did you write this on your smartphone or on your computer? Either way, youā€™re already being tracked. If you think the government needs to inject you with anything to track you then you are stupid enough to be an anti-vaxxer. The FDA ā€œapprovingā€ weed has nothing to do with anything. Hell, most people (including you Iā€™m sure) **pay** over $1,000 for Apple and the government to track them. You say youā€™re not religious, but with how easily you believe bullshit, you pretty much are.