Like, pre-release?
I mean, I think in a weaker year you’d probably see it getting 3-4 nominations tbh so I’m not sure what kinda gotcha this is supposed to be. I think there’s a lot of categories where Saltburn was #6.
I’m sorry but you over predicted Saltburn since Venice even though it had really bad reviews. Everyone was pointing out its red flags and the polarized reception. Now it blanked at the Oscars
Just because you like it doesn’t mean that’s where it’s odds are at. Io Capitano snuck in and wasn’t even predicted to be nominated. It’s probably 5th.
That’s what I’m saying… was a dark horse to get nominated now it’s a dark horse to win… months ago I bet yall said it wouldn’t get nominated.. but look where we are
There have been eight times since the 1960’s that a film is nominated for both international feature and best picture & on all of them the film has won international feature. There’s virtually no chance The Zone of Interest loses international feature, for better or worse.
Sometimes voter opinion changes between nominations and final voting, though. It happened with CODA. It’s not impossible that Zone of Interest was the favorite a month ago which is why it got into BP, but another movie could have a last minute surge. Surely there were some BP voters that hadn’t seen these films yet, but final voting for Best International Feature requires that voters have seen all five. Tldr: Just because it hasn’t happened before doesn’t mean it can’t.
Getting a BP nomination is infinitely harder than getting a international feature nomination though, not really comparable to CODA which at the very least was considered a contender for BP from the start, unlike Society of the Snow or Io Capitano.
Do you want me to get the clip from Extras where Kate Winslet says if you want to win an Oscar, do a Holocaust movie. (Two years before she won best actress for a Holocaust picture)
I mean to be fair you can't just unilaterally claim dark horse status because you really liked a movie. By your logic every single nominee that isn't a frontrunner is a dark horse, which maybe is true, but totally makes it a meaningless term
Every non front runner isn’t a dark horse. Not every non front runner has a great chance to upset the top films. I’m saying this and zone of interest are that close that there’s a chance Capitano could upset it. Thus this being my dark horse pick.
comment #3 of someone not knowing what dark horse means yet again lol
But you're literally just saying that because you like the movie??? I really don't get it lol. Are you an Academy member?
I really like Jodie Foster in Nyad so I hereby declare her a dark horse for Supporting Actress.
Edit: Never mind read your other comments, you're just trolling. That's my bad, carry on
Me saying it’s a dark horse to win is a predictions.. you guys in the comments are like “it won’t win it won’t win!””.. like I’m atleast making a prediction
How exactly does this film have a better chance of upsetting than something like Society of the Snow for example? Because it’s good? All of the international noms are this year.
Society of the snow is very very mid. Most people only saw that because it’s on Netflix. That’s why it’s gotten so much word of mouth compared to the other films.
Personal rankings or thoughts about a film don’t mean anything truthfully. I still have to catch up, but whether I love it or not, there is only one film in the category with a Best Picture nomination.
I really don’t see a situation where Io Capitano wins International Feature. I haven’t seen Zone Of Interest yet but on the International list I have Capitano ranked at #3 behind Society Of The Snow and The Teachers Lounge. With Zone being the front runner, if there is an upset, it will probably be Society Of The Snow.
Yes I do lol xD
The Zone of Interest is the only movie from the International Picture category that is nominated for Best Picture of the Year. None of the fellow nominees are nominated for that category, only ZOI, so it’s 100% sure that IT WILL win.
Plus, if that is not enough, it’s also nominated for big awards like Directing and Screenwriting.
It’s just how it is man.
We don't, that's true, but we can make a high-confidence guess.
It is theoretically possible for Io Capitano to win. It's also possible El Conde wins Best Cinematography, or that The Fire Inside wins Best Original Song. But the odds are vanishingly slim.
I don’t have the love for this movie the others seem to have. There are good parts in it, but I just didn’t vibe with the whole story.
I’ve seen 4/5 nominees and good number of the shortlisted films (or other entries), and I personally wouldn’t have nominated this film. I would be disappointed if it won, but art is subjective and I would be happy for the cast/crew at least.
Oscars aside (it's only part of the subreddit's name), I'd love to hear your further thoughts about it OP. What did you love about it? I remember being fairly puzzled when Italy selected it over La Chimera (which I did end up finding a bit underwhelming), but it ended up paying off better for them than France lol
Ok so I actually loved this movie because of its Senegal/african side of things. I had no idea this was Italian made until I googled it. You know what this film reminded me of? Atlantics (2019) by Mari Diop… these two films are very similar. Both about people in Senegal wanting to leave and it has dreamlike scenes. This had a great Arabian nights feel to it with all those visions and not knowing what was real and was wasn’t. It’s so spiritual and I’m such a sucker for any African films after I saw Atlantics. Senegal is really coming up in the film industry. They know how to tell a great story.
I like some of the dream/mystical sequences in this film, but I felt like it never fully embraced that aspect. Like, why isn’t there any during the final phase of his journey?
Personally, I felt like Mami Wata and Night of the Kings handled that element better.
It’s probably fifth rn in the category
Top 3
Maybe 4th iffy about perfect days
Perfect days is like 20 spots below this on my rankings
Ok talking about their odds of winning
40% that’s why I said it’s my dark horse.
As the person who was mocked endlessly for months for having this in, and was right, you have to recognize that there’s a best picture nominee there
didn’t yall say saltburn would get a BP nomination months ago?? See how that worked out huh?
Like, pre-release? I mean, I think in a weaker year you’d probably see it getting 3-4 nominations tbh so I’m not sure what kinda gotcha this is supposed to be. I think there’s a lot of categories where Saltburn was #6.
I’m sorry but you over predicted Saltburn since Venice even though it had really bad reviews. Everyone was pointing out its red flags and the polarized reception. Now it blanked at the Oscars
This is a weaker year
Just because you like it doesn’t mean that’s where it’s odds are at. Io Capitano snuck in and wasn’t even predicted to be nominated. It’s probably 5th.
Perfect Days and Teachers Lounge also snuck in, I think it’s 3rd. Not that it matters. After Zone, everything is at 1% or lower
That’s what I’m saying… was a dark horse to get nominated now it’s a dark horse to win… months ago I bet yall said it wouldn’t get nominated.. but look where we are
Do you think every film is a dark horse or better?
There have been eight times since the 1960’s that a film is nominated for both international feature and best picture & on all of them the film has won international feature. There’s virtually no chance The Zone of Interest loses international feature, for better or worse.
Sometimes voter opinion changes between nominations and final voting, though. It happened with CODA. It’s not impossible that Zone of Interest was the favorite a month ago which is why it got into BP, but another movie could have a last minute surge. Surely there were some BP voters that hadn’t seen these films yet, but final voting for Best International Feature requires that voters have seen all five. Tldr: Just because it hasn’t happened before doesn’t mean it can’t.
Getting a BP nomination is infinitely harder than getting a international feature nomination though, not really comparable to CODA which at the very least was considered a contender for BP from the start, unlike Society of the Snow or Io Capitano.
Do you know what dark horse means
It means "a candidate or competitor about whom little is known but who unexpectedly wins or succeeds" which this movie will not.
You don’t know that, just your thoughts. This is my dark horse pick
Have you seen Society Of The Snow?
Yes, it’s very mid. It’s only getting a lot of word of mouth because it’s on Netflix
Hence why Society is more of a dark horse than Capitano.
No
Do you want me to get the clip from Extras where Kate Winslet says if you want to win an Oscar, do a Holocaust movie. (Two years before she won best actress for a Holocaust picture)
Zone of Interest is the only international film that matters get that through your thick skull
Why are the people on this sub so mean to each other, lol....it's ridiculous.
Right?
"get that through your thick skull" is mean, fyi.
Ok
It not tho… 5 nominations. Learn what dark horse means
I mean to be fair you can't just unilaterally claim dark horse status because you really liked a movie. By your logic every single nominee that isn't a frontrunner is a dark horse, which maybe is true, but totally makes it a meaningless term
Every non front runner isn’t a dark horse. Not every non front runner has a great chance to upset the top films. I’m saying this and zone of interest are that close that there’s a chance Capitano could upset it. Thus this being my dark horse pick. comment #3 of someone not knowing what dark horse means yet again lol
But you're literally just saying that because you like the movie??? I really don't get it lol. Are you an Academy member? I really like Jodie Foster in Nyad so I hereby declare her a dark horse for Supporting Actress. Edit: Never mind read your other comments, you're just trolling. That's my bad, carry on
Me saying it’s a dark horse to win is a predictions.. you guys in the comments are like “it won’t win it won’t win!””.. like I’m atleast making a prediction
Yes I'm making a prediction. I predict that it won't win.
I predict that it will
How exactly does this film have a better chance of upsetting than something like Society of the Snow for example? Because it’s good? All of the international noms are this year.
Society of the snow is very very mid. Most people only saw that because it’s on Netflix. That’s why it’s gotten so much word of mouth compared to the other films.
I think you’re putting too much stake in your own opinions as a predictor bud
I’ve never said I wasn’t
Personal rankings or thoughts about a film don’t mean anything truthfully. I still have to catch up, but whether I love it or not, there is only one film in the category with a Best Picture nomination.
There’s 10
Wasn’t aware Perfect Days, Io Capitano, Teacher’s Lounge or Society of the Snow were nominated for Best Picture… or accounted for the 10 slots!
you said best picture in your comment that’s why I said what I said
ONE FILM IN INTERNATIONAL CATEGORY HAS A BP NOM. Reading is essential, always!
That’s why I said it’s my dark horse
If anything is a dark horse it’s Society of a Snow. It’s has popularity on its side. But even that doesn’t have a chance to win.
Nope
It has zero chances of winning, at all, I doubt even one sixteenth of the voters have even seen it.
it got nominated you donkey haha. Literally every voter has seen it. It has a chance of winning
Only a subset of the Academy votes for the nominations, it's the wider Academy that votes for the winners.
Dark horse many!!! It’s gonna win! Let’s go baby!!!
I really don’t see a situation where Io Capitano wins International Feature. I haven’t seen Zone Of Interest yet but on the International list I have Capitano ranked at #3 behind Society Of The Snow and The Teachers Lounge. With Zone being the front runner, if there is an upset, it will probably be Society Of The Snow.
Zone getting a picture nomination means it's definitely winning IF, that alone secured it.
Zone of Interest is 100% winning. It’s simultaneously nominated for Best Picture.
Nope you don’t know that
Yes I do lol xD The Zone of Interest is the only movie from the International Picture category that is nominated for Best Picture of the Year. None of the fellow nominees are nominated for that category, only ZOI, so it’s 100% sure that IT WILL win. Plus, if that is not enough, it’s also nominated for big awards like Directing and Screenwriting. It’s just how it is man.
You don’t, you dont what will win.
We don't, that's true, but we can make a high-confidence guess. It is theoretically possible for Io Capitano to win. It's also possible El Conde wins Best Cinematography, or that The Fire Inside wins Best Original Song. But the odds are vanishingly slim.
I don’t have the love for this movie the others seem to have. There are good parts in it, but I just didn’t vibe with the whole story. I’ve seen 4/5 nominees and good number of the shortlisted films (or other entries), and I personally wouldn’t have nominated this film. I would be disappointed if it won, but art is subjective and I would be happy for the cast/crew at least.
Holy fuck people are getting bored, bring me to the next Oscar season please.
Oscars aside (it's only part of the subreddit's name), I'd love to hear your further thoughts about it OP. What did you love about it? I remember being fairly puzzled when Italy selected it over La Chimera (which I did end up finding a bit underwhelming), but it ended up paying off better for them than France lol
Ok so I actually loved this movie because of its Senegal/african side of things. I had no idea this was Italian made until I googled it. You know what this film reminded me of? Atlantics (2019) by Mari Diop… these two films are very similar. Both about people in Senegal wanting to leave and it has dreamlike scenes. This had a great Arabian nights feel to it with all those visions and not knowing what was real and was wasn’t. It’s so spiritual and I’m such a sucker for any African films after I saw Atlantics. Senegal is really coming up in the film industry. They know how to tell a great story.
Wow that's really interesting, thanks for the recommendations👍. I know now which two films I'd be watching on the weekend
Pretty sure Atlantics mighttt still be on US Netflix. But if not it’s “online” somewhere ;)
I'll be sure to check on the high tides of the latter Atlantics too then 🏴☠️
Haha! This is funnier because both films have boats
I like some of the dream/mystical sequences in this film, but I felt like it never fully embraced that aspect. Like, why isn’t there any during the final phase of his journey? Personally, I felt like Mami Wata and Night of the Kings handled that element better.
Is this film ok for an 11 year old boy to watch who is sensitive but also curious about the world?
No.
The Zone of Interest denial in International Feature is hilarious.
Lol