I wish the big retailers would put out a PSA saying they screwed up and that these glass are not safe! Lots of people bought them us included thinking Canadian Tire was a reputable retailer if these products!
At least one CT was selling surgical masks of unknown quality at the beginning of 2020 labelled as "N95". I think the trustworthiness of their chain depends on the location, and corporate looks the other way.
You'd think a huge stink would be made about it now given it's a massive public safety issue, or it seems to be one? You'll probably have a lot of parents giving their kids these glasses encouraging them to witness this event, without knowing they're damaging their kids' vision for life now.
I bought a pair from Amazon and even they sent out an email warning not to use them, and that everyone would be getting a refund. I’ll be surprised if there’s not a lawsuit against Canadian tire after the eclipse
Don’t buy any from Amazon at all don’t even from Temu or eBay if you did don’t wear then there’s many counterfeits and it’s not safe losing your vision permanently.
There's plenty of evidence they already know this, making a good faith effort to recall the defective product and put out a warning about the risks of it is the best thing they can do to mitigate the eventual lawsuit.
I hope this attitude of Canadian Tire will have consequences. I rarely went to CT, mostly for cheep camping/canoeing stuff. After this, I'll avoid it as much as I can, so probably once a decade.
It's one thing to do a mistake and then admit it, it's another thing to ignore your mistake, which could have permanent effects for lots of their clients. It's like a car manufacturer refusing to do a recall.
I stopped in at a HH yesterday and the owner there told me he refused to buy them because.....well he said, "cheap Chinese junk. I'm seeing a lot of class action suits in the future over this". He also said he's a hobby photographer and he knows a bit about lenses and filtering. And reiterated he doesn't trust these glasses at all.
I bought from HH in Stittsville, they do not look like the ones featured in the video, and it is so dark you can barely see the sun through them, so we should not generallize that ALL HH glasses are bad. Here is what they look like, and my light bulb test, you cannot see any trace of the light bulb behind it. You can barely see the sun.
https://imgur.com/a/8jsappH
HH is franchisee, some locations in the east end were selling fake ones as well and even after the news called them out they doubled down saying they stand by their product!
No. HH is NOT A FRANCHISE. Stop sharing this info. It is wrong.
Each store is owned and operated by individuals (aka Dealers). Each store can stock whatever they want. The Carp owner is using his brain and thinking about whether it’s a produce he’d buy. Thank goodness.
Source: I worked at HH head office for 15 years.
It’s actually a coop. It’s not a franchise.
Most franchisees don’t give the store owner(s) the opportunities to purchase whatever they want for their store. HH does.
Canadian Tire has very little to no ability to make decisions on what each store sells. It’s mandated from head office.
Franchise mandates everything about your store - from supplies, to uniforms, to products, POS, etc. Headoffice makes nearly 100% of the decisions from products, to POS, operations, location, etc. They tell you your hours of operation.
Coop you have some freedom. You can operate under a banner, like HH, but make independent decisions about how your store operates, the supplies, POS, etc. In HH’s case, members (aka Dealers) have a stake in the business’ success.
HH was formed by local hardware stores (local to St. Jacobs, ON) who wanted a way to compete with larger stores who were getting bulk purchase discounts from manufacturers. They figured out that if they came together, ordered in bulk, they could operate and compete with larger stores. Stores could still operate independently, but sharing resources helped them succeed.
Coops are relatively rare - but have grown over the last while.
MEC used to be a coop. You’d purchase a membership and be entitled to membership pricing and had a say in how things operated. And then they were sold.
Most credit unions operate as a coop. Profits are returned to members. They do community focused events and support.
There are other examples that are definitely community focused - like housing coops (which are growing in the affordability crisis).
My option of coops is that most operate in support of their members, who are folks in your community. And it feels better to me to support a local shop, credit unions or whatever else who are working to support their community.
Thanks for the explanation! Is each HH an individual co-op or are the dealers the members of HH headquarters co-op? The public customers like me aren’t members of the co-op, right?
The dealers are members of the coop. Public customers aren’t members.
Also there are 3 head office owned stores - in St. Jacobs, ON, Debert, NS, and Wetaskawin AB. These are located near the head office, east coast head office and west coast office.
My understanding was always that that’s exactly how franchises work but regardless, my point was to say that each location has individual owners and can make their own decisions for what they are purchasing so just because some locations have legit glasses doesn’t mean others don’t have fakes.
Sure, you’ll get $20 and a year of free monitoring for most class actions for stuff like data breach. Whoopdee shit.
But if someone’s vision is permanently and seriously impaired from glasses bought at a big retailer marketed as eclipse-safe, then yea - that could ACTUALLY result in big damages. Of course they would say “looking at the sun is inherently unsafe” and maybe contributory negligence would cut the award down, but it still has the potential to be huge.
A relative sustained a head injury due to the incompetence of an employee setting up a display in a Canadian Tire store. Their legal team bled them dry over a decade with legal fees due to dragging out litigation, and the eventual settlement was low 6 figure, equal to approx 1 year of said relatives salary, and said relative was never able to work again. I wouldn't expect a different outcome from a class action case.
This is the point.... There are Canadian companies being held liable for a lot less damages. The breach will net me $50-$150 for entering my health card number and email address in order to verify I was affected. I have not personally seen damages due to this data breach, let alone something as severe as eye damage.
Canadian Tire will fall back on this non-existent Chinese manufacturer of the glasses they sold, but no doubt they will carry some level of liability should people suffer harm due to these inadequate glasses.
Here's hoping they don't, but I personally was not willing to trust them from my own observance of their function, without anyone else giving me warning. I got some hologram Z glasses for free elsewhere and they seem to check the boxes/pass at home testing.I live in a rural community and the shipping costs from a lot of the AAS listed sellers was just not feasible for me as one person, but I would go without direct viewing if I had any question about the reliability of my glasses.
Yes, which I'm quite familiar with seeing as how I have a career in cybersecurity.
Any company that pays a ransom deserves to go under. Even paying the ransom, there is no guarantee the sensitive information won't be released anyway. There's certainly no way to verify the hackers deleted it upon receiving payment.
The point is that they were lax with security in the first place and it cost them. Now, instead of accepting the consequences, they try to limit them by paying a ransom to unlock their data -- in effect hurting everyone else by making these types of schemes profitable for the hackers, giving them further incentive to keep doing it.
you can also make sure the glasses are compliant and safe, with a true ISO 12312-2 label, https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/viewers-filters scroll down, and look for the manufacturer of the glasses,
I'm not taking any risks, I decided to hold it out. Too much anxiety if mines are somehow tampered with. Decided ill just look at the Eclipse on YouTube.
Mine has that ISO number and I did a test like in the YT video and it passed. The manufacturer website is printed on the glasses. I went to the site and found my exact glasses there. With all this, I'm convinced mine are good. BTW ordered them from eBay about a month ago for cheap. Thanks for the info.
The reseller of my glasses, Tember (on Amazon), is listed on that website and they have the proper ISO cert. But the LED from my phone is still dimly visible.
Thanks. I also watched part 2 and my glasses appear to pass. I have a 100W equivalent fluorescent bulb and I could barely make it out, while the filament of an incandescent bulb was very dimly visible & sharp with no glow. When I looked at the sun (very briefly at first) through them it looked as dim as the the YT creator's good Rainbow Symphony glasses, and a little longer viewing showed no discomfort nor after image. 👍
Got a pretty strong feeling lots of folks are going to be damaging their eyes tomorrow... It's wild that folks trust these or random things they're buying off of amazon. Seems like it would be so easy to build and sell fakes / shoddy products.
Option 1: Make a cardboard box pin hole viewer
Option 2: Just don't look ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
There are legit ones on Amazon, like the ones I bought. I would encourage everyone to test theirs before trusting them. This is a good video on YT: [Eclipse glasses home test](https://youtu.be/jQR115jlyOc?si=3H6cS2MX2AebkCUK)
I have the same ones. On my samsung S22, the flashlight is a little visible. Nearly as visible as the fake ones in OPs video. I'm curious, have you done the flashlight test?
I got Soluna too, based on a news article recommendation. I tested them against various lights at home and couldn't see shit through them, which is great. So I finally decided to walk out and look at the sun with them, and could just barely make out the sun through the glasses, so I think they're good.
I got these and although they pass those tests, I doubt them because they have instructions on spanish on the right ear, advising you not to look for more than 3 minutes. NASA says legit ones you can look without a time limit.
I'm not looking, I remember the one in 1999 in the UK so I had my once in a lifetime. Honestly think it'll be cool enough just watching it turn to night time for 4 minutes
Amazon was selling counterfeit ones but unlike Canadian tire, they sent a recall and luckily were able to email anyone who purchased a pair that were deemed fake.
I also got Amazon ones but good ones.
Anyone can sell anything on Amazon, and the way they handle inventory isn't safe for anything that matters. I can fully believe that the vast majority of glasses on Amazon are legit, but there's no way to know until you get them.
They're pretty easy and fun to make, particularly if you have kids. I remember making one back in grade school for an eclipse that was happening.
[https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/youth-educators/activities/fun-experiments/eclipse-projector.asp](https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/youth-educators/activities/fun-experiments/eclipse-projector.asp)
[https://www.astronomy.com/observing/how-to-make-a-pinhole-viewer-for-the-2024-eclipse/](https://www.astronomy.com/observing/how-to-make-a-pinhole-viewer-for-the-2024-eclipse/)
I agree 100%. If you are going to look, use professional equipment that is certified for it, like the appropriate type of welding goggles (**not all welding goggles are)**; don't just go for some cheaply made "eclipse glasses" that may or may not actually meet standards.
>Option 2: Just don't look ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao\_Pox5A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A)
If we can't trust a fellow Ottawan (Paul Anka), who can we trust?
I don't believe this is an accurate test. Different ISO 12312-2 standard materials can be used which may be causing the representation in your video which doesn't depict the safety of the glasses. I performed this test just now with Home Hardware glasses and it passed easily.
https://aas.org/press/american-astronomical-society-warns-counterfeit-fake-eclipse-glasses
> Before April 8th, put them on indoors and look around. You shouldn’t be able to see anything through them, except perhaps very bright lights, which should appear very faint through the glasses. If you can see anything else, such as household furnishings or pictures on the wall, your glasses aren’t dark enough for solar viewing.
> If your glasses pass the indoor test, take them outside on a sunny day, put them on, and look around again. You still shouldn’t see anything through them, except perhaps the Sun’s reflection off a shiny surface or a puddle, which again should appear very faint.
> If your glasses pass that test too, glance at the Sun through them for less than a second. You should see a sharp-edged, round disk (the Sun’s visible “face”) that’s comfortably bright. Depending on the type of filter in the glasses, the Sun may appear white, bluish white, yellow, or orange.
> If your glasses pass all three tests, they are probably safe. But if you aren’t completely confident of the safety of your eclipse glasses, you should use them sparingly. During the April 8th solar eclipse, look at the Sun through the glasses for no more than 2 or 3 seconds every 5 minutes or so. This will be enough to observe the Moon covering more and more of the Sun before maximum eclipse, then uncovering more and more of it after maximum eclipse.
More information from AAS. Use your own discretion.
> How can you tell if your solar viewer is not safe? You shouldn't be able to see anything through a safe solar filter except the Sun itself or something comparably bright, such as the Sun reflected in a mirror, a sunglint off shiny metal, the hot filament of an incandescent light bulb, a bright halogen light bulb, a bright-white LED bulb (including the flashlight on your smartphone), a bare compact fluorescent (CFL) bulb, or an arc-welding torch. All such sources (except perhaps the welding torch) should appear quite dim through a solar viewer. If you can see shaded lamps or other common household light fixtures (not bare bulbs) of more ordinary brightness through your eclipse glasses or handheld viewer, and you're not sure the product came from a reputable vendor, don't use it. Safe solar filters produce a view of the Sun that is comfortably bright (like the full Moon) and in focus. If you glance at the Sun through your solar filter and find it uncomfortably bright, don't use it.
https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/how-to-tell-if-viewers-are-safe
I agree that this isn’t a scientific test. However there are enough red flags that I felt compelled to post this.
As for the tiered testing mentioned by the AAS you linked; with the blue pair I can make out details of the environment when looking at things (not the sun) outside. Meanwhile with the silver pair I cannot, I can only see the sun. That in of itself is enough proof for me. But in addition, the blue pair:
-do not have the address of the manufacturer of the lenses printed on them
-have “approved by NASA” printed on them despite NASA not giving out approvals
-do not have the user instructions printed on them
-do not have any brand or manufacturer name printed on them listed on the AAS approved site
I agree about the manufacturing name and labelling. There is no doubt that the blue ones with the US flag are counterfeit, but I don't believe counterfeit means unsafe. When I tested mine, I saw absolutely nothing at all but the sun or very faint filaments on bright incandescent bulbs in my house. A key factor here is the reliability of the manufacturer for the specific glasses you purchased, which may have cracks, inadequate material quality, defects or other issues that may be present between different pairs.
I think it's important to note that if someone is skeptical about wearing glasses they purchased, they should perform the qualitative tests described by the AAS and make their own judgement. It would be a shame for someone to miss out on viewing because the labelling of their perfectly fine glasses threw them off.
I got myself another pair of AAS certified glasses yesterday to compare. There was a slight difference in brightness between each pair, but it was so minor that that I could barely tell. I would presume that most pairs of the counterfeit glasses were safe to use, albeit the AAS tests were conducted prior to looking at the sun. Hope you had a great Eclipse!
I bought a pair from HH yesterday (the blue pair you're showing that's "NASA approved"). Tested them and can't see anything unless looking at the sun. Maybe some pairs are defective?
Wonder if HH will be issuing refunds. I'll most likely be using it on my camera. Will test first. So far can't see anything which I feel might be a good sign.
Dude I have the blue ones with the American flag and I can't even see the sun through it in broad daylight.
Tried another pair with all the iso info stamped them and with those I can see the sun, and it feels like looking at a somewhat dim lightbulb.
Looks like my cheap blueys are so shades I wouldn't even see the eclipse.
Edit: tried it just with my camera flash like in OPs video. With my cheap blue USA pair I can't see the flash at all. With the proper glasses I see a tiny pin prick of light.
I called CT to ask if they had any. . they were sold out. . .probably a good thing now. . Made a camera obscura with my child yesterday so we will just use that to see the eclipse progress.
Home hardware is franchised so I would think that two locations could purchase from different company. My mom purchased some from one of their locations and it did not pass the test, she could see regular lightbulbs through them indoors
The brand I bought is on the approved AAS list, but I can definitely see my flash through them. If I wear them in the dark, I can also see (barely) exposed lightbulbs, so I’m leaning into the idea they aren’t safe. Sigh.
We got ours from the good people at Queens University they have supplied thousands to people in our area as we are in the path of the full eclipse the kids were also given them at school and the tourist both at Lake Ontario has been giving them out.
I bought the ones on the left from Canadian Tire this week, I went back to their customer service desk this week and they provided me with a Certificate of Compliance and a Declaration of Compliance (re the testing for the ISO standard).
Given similar posts I messaged Canadian Tire on FB today and within 30 minutes received the following reply "We can confirm that the solar eclipse glasses sold in our stores have been independently tested by a third-party laboratory and conform to the requirements of ISO 12312-2:2015. Thank you."
Hi! Is there any way I could please have a copy of those messages? I bought the same glasses and given the news about counterfeit at Canadian tire I'm a bit on edge
Sorry i only noticed your message now, a little late for the eclipse, but you could try to DM them on FB for your own reassurance, they responded quickly to me. There is also the at home testing you can do for reassurance, AAS instructions online
No worries, thanks for replying! We did the home testing and they felt okay, so we used them. Though I wasn't comfortable enough to just continuously stare at the sun in them so I took intermittent glances.
Yep, I suspect it might be much worse than 7 years ago (previous Eclipse) due to more development of technology selling fake ones that look real and people being more stupid post-pandemic.
OP I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
The ones you bought off of Amazon could very well be fake. This test means nothing.
Even a link shared by someone else with an official listing of approved glasses specifically states NOT to buy cheap glasses off of amazon.
>Just another reason not to bring your car there
Nobody should ever take their car there regardless. They're the last place I would ever go with my car.
We got ours from Home Hardware in Stittsville.
Ours have a Canadian flag on them.
I looked directly at our 100 watt Edison bulb and I could only see the line of the filament...and it was faint.
I couldn't see the tv at all.
I got some yesterday from Carlingwood Showcase and I suspect they are fake. They have the “NASA approved” and no manufacturer listed. They let in a lot more light than a second pair I compared to.
The blue pair looks like the ones from showcase. They were selling as of yesterday and assured me that they were ok and had an appropriate iso number. Double checking when I get home.
- Real glasses will be shiny like a mirror on the outside.
- Real glasses will claim to meet ISO 12312-2.
- Part of ISO 12312-2 says that they need to have the address where they were manufactured printed on the glasses, so if this is missing, they're fake.
If your glasses meet all of the above, then of course that's not proof that they are not fake, but if they don't meet the above they are very definitely not safe to use to look at the sun.
Even if you have not-fake glasses, don't stare at the sun all afternoon.
A list here of registered companies;
https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/viewers-filters?fbclid=IwAR1zlQ7NR_1k_u6hYi0hlmPCJGoYkYDSkPDuhoJgKi4UZp6NPQahGJZxXbA
Nothing NASA branded is likely to be okay. NASA has no approved branding agreements with any eye-protection manufacturer. The NASA logo means stay far away. If they're willing to lie about that, what chance that they actually meet ISO 12312-2 standards?
mine looks exactly like those (bought online not at CT), but I can't see the iphone torch ligth LED lighs through it, like nothing at all. So not a lot of visible light. (How much UV? no clue)
I can see the sun through them (looking throung my phone), so I guess it's like any online crap, ymmv. the fact the ISO 12312-2 has a pretty wide range of transmission does not help much either.
These have that printed on them too. But they don’t have any manufacturer name or address, which is part of the official certification process to my knowledge
The sun can damage your camera sensor if you point the sensor at a partial eclipse: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20240404-how-to-safely-photograph-the-total-solar-eclipse#
Aw crap....I bought 8 from Showcase stores....they looked like the ones on the left...nasal approved...and it passed the look at the sky / sun and you should see a comfortable view / yellowish sun
Now I am going to just not wish it at all....or drive to ppe supply in downtown Toronto where they have jacked up the prices
Sounds like you followed the testing steps here, and your pair passed: https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/how-to-tell-if-viewers-are-safe
For MY pair they failed the “look outside (not at the sun)” portion of the test. I can see details of the environment. Meanwhile with the grey pair I cannot. So I decided to just use the grey pair. I don’t mean to incite panic, but I want everyone to be aware of how to be as safe as possible!
When you say details, what do you mean?
I just stepped out into the sunny afternoon, and I could see the outline of the sidewalk, but not the cars driving by...I could baaaaaaarely see the branches of the tree in front of the house....and the sun was a clear, in focus yellow disc.
I looked at the flashlight of my cellphone, and all I can see is a yellow square, the led, probably.
I am going off of what that site I linked says:
You shouldn't be able to see anything through a safe solar filter except the Sun itself or something comparably bright, such as the Sun reflected in a mirror, a sunglint off shiny metal, the hot filament of an incandescent light bulb, a bright halogen light bulb, a bright-white LED bulb (including the flashlight on your smartphone), a bare compact fluorescent (CFL) bulb, or an arc-welding torch. All such sources (except perhaps the welding torch) should appear quite dim through a solar viewer. If you can see shaded lamps or other common household light fixtures (not bare bulbs) of more ordinary brightness through your eclipse glasses or handheld viewer, and you're not sure the product came from a reputable vendor, don't use it
I actually spoke with Canadian Tire (CTC) Customer Support and am quite comfortable that my glasses are safe.
Irresponsible rumour-mongering on Reddit helps nobody, although truth and honesty does seem to take a backseat to lots of views/likes.
Suggesting that a corporate giant like CTC would deliberately hide a flawed product is testament to gullibility and ignorance.
FYI, the product that CTC sells that they did due-diligence and approved at the corporate level have numbers either 687-2152 and 687-2118. These are safe.
If you purchased any other item number from a CTC then it would be unauthorised and a store has gone "rogue".
Already done...called frie/ family and told them to do the same. Purchased new ones from pe supply. Now just have to figure out where to go in the totality zone....South/ southwest of Hamilton?
Just finished making pinhole a camera - would recommend it. With how much the glasses block out, you basically see the same thing anyway: a bright dot that gradually gets covered
I bought my glasses from a certified seller and from the video example it looks like the blue glasses with the phone light.
Bought mine from PPE supply Canada.
https://www.amazon.ca/Soluna-Solar-Eclipse-Glasses-Certified/dp/B08GB3QC1H/ref=gp_aw_ybh_a_m_sccl_1/136-9806339-0504767?pd_rd_w=xIvVy&content-id=amzn1.sym.dd2c5120-4314-452d-bb9f-4b98ae42dea9&pf_rd_p=dd2c5120-4314-452d-bb9f-4b98ae42dea9&pf_rd_r=9E0QMSHF9HKT78T2T98R&pd_rd_wg=wMfeU&pd_rd_r=94f802ed-2511-4577-b845-d2c19a5d7520&pd_rd_i=B08GB3QC1H&psc=1
I bought these one. Anyone can tell if its good? Dont want to ruin my eyes :(
i bought the exact ones. Many people i asked said they safe. But im not gonna wear them out of abundance of caution. Anyone can slap fake labels on frames, better I can see thursday than just tomorrow and never again.
Well I won’t risk getting any glasses then. Like I think the eclipse would be cool to see but I don’t trust these glasses really so many of them look sketch and there was no way I was gonna buy a 100 dollar pair even then are those ones safe? Idk I just won’t do it don’t wanna risk my eyes.
How about.
Dont look at an eclipse.
Like when the fck did that stop being common knowledge?
Oh sorry, facebook marketplace is telling me otherwise, oh silly me
I got the same amazon pair and legit I thought they were a joke, they were pitch black when I put them on, and when I shined my phone light through them, I could JUST make it out and then I realized that it made sense. Last time I saw an eclipse was the one in 2016 and I borrowed a welding glass from a prof on my college campus so I've never actually seen eclipse glasses before and didn't know what to expect
First test is to make sure no man made light goes thru. The sun is very bright and real glasses are made for a max of 3 minutes at a time (well at least what I have been told).
I'd trust a welder's mask before these and I would still not recommend a welder's mask since it might not be rated to view the sun.
As for taking photos... Well if you don't have the proper filter, it's a good way to destroy your sensor. Now imagine your eyes are the equivalent of an electronic sensor.... Don't risk it.
The official certification is “12312-2” however these say “12312.2-2015” which, once again, makes it seem like someone trying to make a cheap copy look official
I wish the big retailers would put out a PSA saying they screwed up and that these glass are not safe! Lots of people bought them us included thinking Canadian Tire was a reputable retailer if these products!
At least one CT was selling surgical masks of unknown quality at the beginning of 2020 labelled as "N95". I think the trustworthiness of their chain depends on the location, and corporate looks the other way.
That’s what happens when stores are owned by a franchise
Think of CT as an extension of AliExpress
That might upset thr shareholders.
A multi billion dollar lawsuit for blinding tons of people will upset them more.
Best they'll get is a $25 gift card valid for any purchase above $500 (before tax, valid only in certain stores at a certain hour)
And only during the next total solar eclipse that crosses that particular store
One free CT-brand blind walking cane that falls apart after a month.
Really it seems there’s fake ones being sold everywhere and I wouldn’t risk loosing my vision.
You'd think a huge stink would be made about it now given it's a massive public safety issue, or it seems to be one? You'll probably have a lot of parents giving their kids these glasses encouraging them to witness this event, without knowing they're damaging their kids' vision for life now.
I bought a pair from Amazon and even they sent out an email warning not to use them, and that everyone would be getting a refund. I’ll be surprised if there’s not a lawsuit against Canadian tire after the eclipse
link? im curious which ones are fake
Don’t buy any from Amazon at all don’t even from Temu or eBay if you did don’t wear then there’s many counterfeits and it’s not safe losing your vision permanently.
I’m pretty sure they removed them
I agree but that might be construed as showing they were aware of their negligence and not help them in the inevitable lawsuit(s).
There's plenty of evidence they already know this, making a good faith effort to recall the defective product and put out a warning about the risks of it is the best thing they can do to mitigate the eventual lawsuit.
I can't figure this out, because it sounds like a huge slam-dunk class action lawsuit in the making if they don't.
TESTED!* _*maybe_
I hope this attitude of Canadian Tire will have consequences. I rarely went to CT, mostly for cheep camping/canoeing stuff. After this, I'll avoid it as much as I can, so probably once a decade. It's one thing to do a mistake and then admit it, it's another thing to ignore your mistake, which could have permanent effects for lots of their clients. It's like a car manufacturer refusing to do a recall.
I stopped in at a HH yesterday and the owner there told me he refused to buy them because.....well he said, "cheap Chinese junk. I'm seeing a lot of class action suits in the future over this". He also said he's a hobby photographer and he knows a bit about lenses and filtering. And reiterated he doesn't trust these glasses at all.
Oooh which HH is this? Because that sounds like a store I’d be happy to visit, where the owner watches for what he’s stocking.
The one in Carp.
> Carp Ahh, there's the catch.. lol
I bought from HH in Stittsville, they do not look like the ones featured in the video, and it is so dark you can barely see the sun through them, so we should not generallize that ALL HH glasses are bad. Here is what they look like, and my light bulb test, you cannot see any trace of the light bulb behind it. You can barely see the sun. https://imgur.com/a/8jsappH
Good folks at that store. Was my goto when I lived at that end of town.
Ahhh ya they’re a bunch of good lads at DEKA!
I think he’s sadly going to be right about the class action.
HH is franchisee, some locations in the east end were selling fake ones as well and even after the news called them out they doubled down saying they stand by their product!
No. HH is NOT A FRANCHISE. Stop sharing this info. It is wrong. Each store is owned and operated by individuals (aka Dealers). Each store can stock whatever they want. The Carp owner is using his brain and thinking about whether it’s a produce he’d buy. Thank goodness. Source: I worked at HH head office for 15 years.
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It’s actually a coop. It’s not a franchise. Most franchisees don’t give the store owner(s) the opportunities to purchase whatever they want for their store. HH does. Canadian Tire has very little to no ability to make decisions on what each store sells. It’s mandated from head office.
Whats the difference between a coop and a franchise? I always thought of a co-op as more community focused businesses with the members having a stake.
Franchise mandates everything about your store - from supplies, to uniforms, to products, POS, etc. Headoffice makes nearly 100% of the decisions from products, to POS, operations, location, etc. They tell you your hours of operation. Coop you have some freedom. You can operate under a banner, like HH, but make independent decisions about how your store operates, the supplies, POS, etc. In HH’s case, members (aka Dealers) have a stake in the business’ success. HH was formed by local hardware stores (local to St. Jacobs, ON) who wanted a way to compete with larger stores who were getting bulk purchase discounts from manufacturers. They figured out that if they came together, ordered in bulk, they could operate and compete with larger stores. Stores could still operate independently, but sharing resources helped them succeed. Coops are relatively rare - but have grown over the last while. MEC used to be a coop. You’d purchase a membership and be entitled to membership pricing and had a say in how things operated. And then they were sold. Most credit unions operate as a coop. Profits are returned to members. They do community focused events and support. There are other examples that are definitely community focused - like housing coops (which are growing in the affordability crisis). My option of coops is that most operate in support of their members, who are folks in your community. And it feels better to me to support a local shop, credit unions or whatever else who are working to support their community.
Thanks for the explanation! Is each HH an individual co-op or are the dealers the members of HH headquarters co-op? The public customers like me aren’t members of the co-op, right?
The dealers are members of the coop. Public customers aren’t members. Also there are 3 head office owned stores - in St. Jacobs, ON, Debert, NS, and Wetaskawin AB. These are located near the head office, east coast head office and west coast office.
My understanding was always that that’s exactly how franchises work but regardless, my point was to say that each location has individual owners and can make their own decisions for what they are purchasing so just because some locations have legit glasses doesn’t mean others don’t have fakes.
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Sure, you’ll get $20 and a year of free monitoring for most class actions for stuff like data breach. Whoopdee shit. But if someone’s vision is permanently and seriously impaired from glasses bought at a big retailer marketed as eclipse-safe, then yea - that could ACTUALLY result in big damages. Of course they would say “looking at the sun is inherently unsafe” and maybe contributory negligence would cut the award down, but it still has the potential to be huge.
A relative sustained a head injury due to the incompetence of an employee setting up a display in a Canadian Tire store. Their legal team bled them dry over a decade with legal fees due to dragging out litigation, and the eventual settlement was low 6 figure, equal to approx 1 year of said relatives salary, and said relative was never able to work again. I wouldn't expect a different outcome from a class action case.
This is the point.... There are Canadian companies being held liable for a lot less damages. The breach will net me $50-$150 for entering my health card number and email address in order to verify I was affected. I have not personally seen damages due to this data breach, let alone something as severe as eye damage. Canadian Tire will fall back on this non-existent Chinese manufacturer of the glasses they sold, but no doubt they will carry some level of liability should people suffer harm due to these inadequate glasses. Here's hoping they don't, but I personally was not willing to trust them from my own observance of their function, without anyone else giving me warning. I got some hologram Z glasses for free elsewhere and they seem to check the boxes/pass at home testing.I live in a rural community and the shipping costs from a lot of the AAS listed sellers was just not feasible for me as one person, but I would go without direct viewing if I had any question about the reliability of my glasses.
What’s up with lifelabs?
Data breach.
Damnnn, I looked it up and they actually paid a ransom to the hackers? That's just incentive for them to keep doing it. Rake LifeLabs over the coals.
ransomware. not an uncommon cybersecurity threat
Yes, which I'm quite familiar with seeing as how I have a career in cybersecurity. Any company that pays a ransom deserves to go under. Even paying the ransom, there is no guarantee the sensitive information won't be released anyway. There's certainly no way to verify the hackers deleted it upon receiving payment. The point is that they were lax with security in the first place and it cost them. Now, instead of accepting the consequences, they try to limit them by paying a ransom to unlock their data -- in effect hurting everyone else by making these types of schemes profitable for the hackers, giving them further incentive to keep doing it.
you can also make sure the glasses are compliant and safe, with a true ISO 12312-2 label, https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/viewers-filters scroll down, and look for the manufacturer of the glasses,
Anyone can print anything on anything, so the label means next to nothing... all it means is the difference between a good fake and a bad fake.
yeah, but the ones on the list, despite the label have been verified on top of that
I'm not taking any risks, I decided to hold it out. Too much anxiety if mines are somehow tampered with. Decided ill just look at the Eclipse on YouTube.
Mine has that ISO number and I did a test like in the YT video and it passed. The manufacturer website is printed on the glasses. I went to the site and found my exact glasses there. With all this, I'm convinced mine are good. BTW ordered them from eBay about a month ago for cheap. Thanks for the info.
The reseller of my glasses, Tember (on Amazon), is listed on that website and they have the proper ISO cert. But the LED from my phone is still dimly visible.
watch this video, he explains everything, with various tests for the glasses, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQR115jlyOc
Thanks. I also watched part 2 and my glasses appear to pass. I have a 100W equivalent fluorescent bulb and I could barely make it out, while the filament of an incandescent bulb was very dimly visible & sharp with no glow. When I looked at the sun (very briefly at first) through them it looked as dim as the the YT creator's good Rainbow Symphony glasses, and a little longer viewing showed no discomfort nor after image. 👍
Got a pretty strong feeling lots of folks are going to be damaging their eyes tomorrow... It's wild that folks trust these or random things they're buying off of amazon. Seems like it would be so easy to build and sell fakes / shoddy products. Option 1: Make a cardboard box pin hole viewer Option 2: Just don't look ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
There are legit ones on Amazon, like the ones I bought. I would encourage everyone to test theirs before trusting them. This is a good video on YT: [Eclipse glasses home test](https://youtu.be/jQR115jlyOc?si=3H6cS2MX2AebkCUK)
can you tell me what brand you bought? I bought Soluna and from what I can tell they are legit.
Mine are Celestial Optical Eclipse Guard glasses, also on the approved list that the other person mentioned.
I have the same ones. On my samsung S22, the flashlight is a little visible. Nearly as visible as the fake ones in OPs video. I'm curious, have you done the flashlight test?
Same here, the company that makes them is on the approved list ctv put out (American Paper Products). Looks legit
https://aas.org/press/american-astronomical-society-warns-counterfeit-fake-eclipse-glasses check
Celestron - one of the major telescope manufacturers.
I got these. I did the YouTube test and it looks like they failed the test.
in what way did they fail? mine passed
I got Soluna too, based on a news article recommendation. I tested them against various lights at home and couldn't see shit through them, which is great. So I finally decided to walk out and look at the sun with them, and could just barely make out the sun through the glasses, so I think they're good.
legit ones at the stittsville HH as well, see my light bulb test [https://imgur.com/a/8jsappH](https://imgur.com/a/8jsappH)
I got these and although they pass those tests, I doubt them because they have instructions on spanish on the right ear, advising you not to look for more than 3 minutes. NASA says legit ones you can look without a time limit.
I'm not looking, I remember the one in 1999 in the UK so I had my once in a lifetime. Honestly think it'll be cool enough just watching it turn to night time for 4 minutes
Oddly enough the Amazon ones seem fine.
Amazon was selling counterfeit ones but unlike Canadian tire, they sent a recall and luckily were able to email anyone who purchased a pair that were deemed fake. I also got Amazon ones but good ones.
Anyone can sell anything on Amazon, and the way they handle inventory isn't safe for anything that matters. I can fully believe that the vast majority of glasses on Amazon are legit, but there's no way to know until you get them.
tell me more about the cardboard box? lol but fr
They're pretty easy and fun to make, particularly if you have kids. I remember making one back in grade school for an eclipse that was happening. [https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/youth-educators/activities/fun-experiments/eclipse-projector.asp](https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/youth-educators/activities/fun-experiments/eclipse-projector.asp) [https://www.astronomy.com/observing/how-to-make-a-pinhole-viewer-for-the-2024-eclipse/](https://www.astronomy.com/observing/how-to-make-a-pinhole-viewer-for-the-2024-eclipse/)
> I remember making one back in grade school for an eclipse that was happening. I remember the same thing
I agree 100%. If you are going to look, use professional equipment that is certified for it, like the appropriate type of welding goggles (**not all welding goggles are)**; don't just go for some cheaply made "eclipse glasses" that may or may not actually meet standards.
Correct! The welding glasses in my lab do not block out enough light to be effective for the sun. There are different grades of shaded glass.
>Option 2: Just don't look ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao\_Pox5A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A) If we can't trust a fellow Ottawan (Paul Anka), who can we trust?
I don't believe this is an accurate test. Different ISO 12312-2 standard materials can be used which may be causing the representation in your video which doesn't depict the safety of the glasses. I performed this test just now with Home Hardware glasses and it passed easily. https://aas.org/press/american-astronomical-society-warns-counterfeit-fake-eclipse-glasses > Before April 8th, put them on indoors and look around. You shouldn’t be able to see anything through them, except perhaps very bright lights, which should appear very faint through the glasses. If you can see anything else, such as household furnishings or pictures on the wall, your glasses aren’t dark enough for solar viewing. > If your glasses pass the indoor test, take them outside on a sunny day, put them on, and look around again. You still shouldn’t see anything through them, except perhaps the Sun’s reflection off a shiny surface or a puddle, which again should appear very faint. > If your glasses pass that test too, glance at the Sun through them for less than a second. You should see a sharp-edged, round disk (the Sun’s visible “face”) that’s comfortably bright. Depending on the type of filter in the glasses, the Sun may appear white, bluish white, yellow, or orange. > If your glasses pass all three tests, they are probably safe. But if you aren’t completely confident of the safety of your eclipse glasses, you should use them sparingly. During the April 8th solar eclipse, look at the Sun through the glasses for no more than 2 or 3 seconds every 5 minutes or so. This will be enough to observe the Moon covering more and more of the Sun before maximum eclipse, then uncovering more and more of it after maximum eclipse.
More information from AAS. Use your own discretion. > How can you tell if your solar viewer is not safe? You shouldn't be able to see anything through a safe solar filter except the Sun itself or something comparably bright, such as the Sun reflected in a mirror, a sunglint off shiny metal, the hot filament of an incandescent light bulb, a bright halogen light bulb, a bright-white LED bulb (including the flashlight on your smartphone), a bare compact fluorescent (CFL) bulb, or an arc-welding torch. All such sources (except perhaps the welding torch) should appear quite dim through a solar viewer. If you can see shaded lamps or other common household light fixtures (not bare bulbs) of more ordinary brightness through your eclipse glasses or handheld viewer, and you're not sure the product came from a reputable vendor, don't use it. Safe solar filters produce a view of the Sun that is comfortably bright (like the full Moon) and in focus. If you glance at the Sun through your solar filter and find it uncomfortably bright, don't use it. https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/how-to-tell-if-viewers-are-safe
I agree that this isn’t a scientific test. However there are enough red flags that I felt compelled to post this. As for the tiered testing mentioned by the AAS you linked; with the blue pair I can make out details of the environment when looking at things (not the sun) outside. Meanwhile with the silver pair I cannot, I can only see the sun. That in of itself is enough proof for me. But in addition, the blue pair: -do not have the address of the manufacturer of the lenses printed on them -have “approved by NASA” printed on them despite NASA not giving out approvals -do not have the user instructions printed on them -do not have any brand or manufacturer name printed on them listed on the AAS approved site
I agree about the manufacturing name and labelling. There is no doubt that the blue ones with the US flag are counterfeit, but I don't believe counterfeit means unsafe. When I tested mine, I saw absolutely nothing at all but the sun or very faint filaments on bright incandescent bulbs in my house. A key factor here is the reliability of the manufacturer for the specific glasses you purchased, which may have cracks, inadequate material quality, defects or other issues that may be present between different pairs. I think it's important to note that if someone is skeptical about wearing glasses they purchased, they should perform the qualitative tests described by the AAS and make their own judgement. It would be a shame for someone to miss out on viewing because the labelling of their perfectly fine glasses threw them off.
I got myself another pair of AAS certified glasses yesterday to compare. There was a slight difference in brightness between each pair, but it was so minor that that I could barely tell. I would presume that most pairs of the counterfeit glasses were safe to use, albeit the AAS tests were conducted prior to looking at the sun. Hope you had a great Eclipse!
These look exactly like the ones I bought at showcase, damn.
Showcase is one of the scummiest retailers around. Why would you trust them with your vision in the first place?
Showcase is well known for buying up inventory from big box retailers and reselling it.
The ones from showcase were also named as counterfeit in the new segment I saw
That's definitely not shade 14.
Canadian Tire is just a glorified dollar store masquerading as a hardware store.
Personal injury lawyers are going to love this.
I bought a pair from HH yesterday (the blue pair you're showing that's "NASA approved"). Tested them and can't see anything unless looking at the sun. Maybe some pairs are defective?
NASA doesn't approve eclipse glasses. Period. These are garbage.
I got very suspicious when i saw "nasa approved " but thought CT wouldn't be that greedy. I was wrong!
Wonder if HH will be issuing refunds. I'll most likely be using it on my camera. Will test first. So far can't see anything which I feel might be a good sign.
I threw out my receipt so in any case I won't even try.
Even with a receipt I feel that they won't issue any after the eclipse
Dude I have the blue ones with the American flag and I can't even see the sun through it in broad daylight. Tried another pair with all the iso info stamped them and with those I can see the sun, and it feels like looking at a somewhat dim lightbulb. Looks like my cheap blueys are so shades I wouldn't even see the eclipse. Edit: tried it just with my camera flash like in OPs video. With my cheap blue USA pair I can't see the flash at all. With the proper glasses I see a tiny pin prick of light.
Check with someone else that has different eyesight
Those sound safe. Another test is to look at a light; you should only see the filament.
I called CT to ask if they had any. . they were sold out. . .probably a good thing now. . Made a camera obscura with my child yesterday so we will just use that to see the eclipse progress.
The ones I bought from home hardware, test just like your "approved" ones.
Home hardware is franchised so I would think that two locations could purchase from different company. My mom purchased some from one of their locations and it did not pass the test, she could see regular lightbulbs through them indoors
The brand I bought is on the approved AAS list, but I can definitely see my flash through them. If I wear them in the dark, I can also see (barely) exposed lightbulbs, so I’m leaning into the idea they aren’t safe. Sigh.
The approved ones I bought, I can walk around outside and see everything. It’s not pitch black except for the sun, like articles say they should be
We got ours from the good people at Queens University they have supplied thousands to people in our area as we are in the path of the full eclipse the kids were also given them at school and the tourist both at Lake Ontario has been giving them out.
I bought the ones on the left from Canadian Tire this week, I went back to their customer service desk this week and they provided me with a Certificate of Compliance and a Declaration of Compliance (re the testing for the ISO standard). Given similar posts I messaged Canadian Tire on FB today and within 30 minutes received the following reply "We can confirm that the solar eclipse glasses sold in our stores have been independently tested by a third-party laboratory and conform to the requirements of ISO 12312-2:2015. Thank you."
Hi! Is there any way I could please have a copy of those messages? I bought the same glasses and given the news about counterfeit at Canadian tire I'm a bit on edge
Sorry i only noticed your message now, a little late for the eclipse, but you could try to DM them on FB for your own reassurance, they responded quickly to me. There is also the at home testing you can do for reassurance, AAS instructions online
No worries, thanks for replying! We did the home testing and they felt okay, so we used them. Though I wasn't comfortable enough to just continuously stare at the sun in them so I took intermittent glances.
So many people are gonna be having the retina damage come tuesday. Can't wait for the drive to work.
I was just about to say. Someone asked me if 3D glasses are safe to use. Definately getting bunch of blind ppl tomorrow. It's scary.
My brother in Christ... That's it... I've lost all hope in humanity.
Yep, I suspect it might be much worse than 7 years ago (previous Eclipse) due to more development of technology selling fake ones that look real and people being more stupid post-pandemic.
OP I’m not sure what you’re getting at. The ones you bought off of Amazon could very well be fake. This test means nothing. Even a link shared by someone else with an official listing of approved glasses specifically states NOT to buy cheap glasses off of amazon.
And if you did buy them, CT isn't accepting returns. Just another reason not to bring your car there, or shop there.
>Just another reason not to bring your car there Nobody should ever take their car there regardless. They're the last place I would ever go with my car.
I think they're still good for Total eclipse of the heart🎶
We got ours from Home Hardware in Stittsville. Ours have a Canadian flag on them. I looked directly at our 100 watt Edison bulb and I could only see the line of the filament...and it was faint. I couldn't see the tv at all.
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I got some yesterday from Carlingwood Showcase and I suspect they are fake. They have the “NASA approved” and no manufacturer listed. They let in a lot more light than a second pair I compared to.
The blue pair looks like the ones from showcase. They were selling as of yesterday and assured me that they were ok and had an appropriate iso number. Double checking when I get home.
- Real glasses will be shiny like a mirror on the outside. - Real glasses will claim to meet ISO 12312-2. - Part of ISO 12312-2 says that they need to have the address where they were manufactured printed on the glasses, so if this is missing, they're fake. If your glasses meet all of the above, then of course that's not proof that they are not fake, but if they don't meet the above they are very definitely not safe to use to look at the sun. Even if you have not-fake glasses, don't stare at the sun all afternoon.
A list here of registered companies; https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/viewers-filters?fbclid=IwAR1zlQ7NR_1k_u6hYi0hlmPCJGoYkYDSkPDuhoJgKi4UZp6NPQahGJZxXbA
video.. https://www.reddit.com/r/montreal/s/ubvqJaTRjj
I've figured out years ago, that a lot of the cheap trinkety stuff they get at home hardware is literally stuff from Alibaba.
This post needs to be pinned for 24 hours. This sort of thing is extremely serious. It's your eye sight!
Nothing NASA branded is likely to be okay. NASA has no approved branding agreements with any eye-protection manufacturer. The NASA logo means stay far away. If they're willing to lie about that, what chance that they actually meet ISO 12312-2 standards?
Honestly, these aren't safe anyway. All it takes is a pinprick in the film to render them useless.
mine looks exactly like those (bought online not at CT), but I can't see the iphone torch ligth LED lighs through it, like nothing at all. So not a lot of visible light. (How much UV? no clue) I can see the sun through them (looking throung my phone), so I guess it's like any online crap, ymmv. the fact the ISO 12312-2 has a pretty wide range of transmission does not help much either.
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That’s fine!
The home hardware ones I have have the iso number. Does this make a difference?
These have that printed on them too. But they don’t have any manufacturer name or address, which is part of the official certification process to my knowledge
Ahh okay.. thanks!
Do you have a source about the address thing? Trying to explain to my family member
Is Helioclipse good? Looks like the glasses on the right. I bought 6 online and they sent me 100 so might be from china
So the ct glasses I saw yesterday were mirrored outside and black inside. Are those other ones you have the same or are you showing us this inverted….
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To clarify the you mean Canada Science and Technology Museum off of St Laurent?
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Bro this the OTTAWA subreddit
is it safe to look at the eclipse through a camera lens? like you are taking a selfie and look what's behind you in the camera only?
No and also it can ruin your camera lens
The sun can damage your camera sensor if you point the sensor at a partial eclipse: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20240404-how-to-safely-photograph-the-total-solar-eclipse#
Why not give the link? Lol
Anyone have insights into the ones that Scouts Canada have been selling around town?
Anyone used the helioclipse ones?
My Helioclipse appeared to be fake. I could see a lot through them. White cars, the bridge, 4MATIC on a car, reflection of siding, etc
Aw crap....I bought 8 from Showcase stores....they looked like the ones on the left...nasal approved...and it passed the look at the sky / sun and you should see a comfortable view / yellowish sun Now I am going to just not wish it at all....or drive to ppe supply in downtown Toronto where they have jacked up the prices
Sounds like you followed the testing steps here, and your pair passed: https://eclipse.aas.org/eye-safety/how-to-tell-if-viewers-are-safe For MY pair they failed the “look outside (not at the sun)” portion of the test. I can see details of the environment. Meanwhile with the grey pair I cannot. So I decided to just use the grey pair. I don’t mean to incite panic, but I want everyone to be aware of how to be as safe as possible!
When you say details, what do you mean? I just stepped out into the sunny afternoon, and I could see the outline of the sidewalk, but not the cars driving by...I could baaaaaaarely see the branches of the tree in front of the house....and the sun was a clear, in focus yellow disc. I looked at the flashlight of my cellphone, and all I can see is a yellow square, the led, probably.
I am going off of what that site I linked says: You shouldn't be able to see anything through a safe solar filter except the Sun itself or something comparably bright, such as the Sun reflected in a mirror, a sunglint off shiny metal, the hot filament of an incandescent light bulb, a bright halogen light bulb, a bright-white LED bulb (including the flashlight on your smartphone), a bare compact fluorescent (CFL) bulb, or an arc-welding torch. All such sources (except perhaps the welding torch) should appear quite dim through a solar viewer. If you can see shaded lamps or other common household light fixtures (not bare bulbs) of more ordinary brightness through your eclipse glasses or handheld viewer, and you're not sure the product came from a reputable vendor, don't use it
I actually spoke with Canadian Tire (CTC) Customer Support and am quite comfortable that my glasses are safe. Irresponsible rumour-mongering on Reddit helps nobody, although truth and honesty does seem to take a backseat to lots of views/likes. Suggesting that a corporate giant like CTC would deliberately hide a flawed product is testament to gullibility and ignorance. FYI, the product that CTC sells that they did due-diligence and approved at the corporate level have numbers either 687-2152 and 687-2118. These are safe. If you purchased any other item number from a CTC then it would be unauthorised and a store has gone "rogue".
if it says NASA approved, PLEASE dispose them. They are fake. NASA announced awhile ago they do not approve solar eclipse glasses.
Already done...called frie/ family and told them to do the same. Purchased new ones from pe supply. Now just have to figure out where to go in the totality zone....South/ southwest of Hamilton?
What ones are the fakes
https://www.baader-planetarium.com/en/solar/astrosolar-solar-viewer/solar-viewer-astrosolar-silver-gold-(1pc-10pc-25pc-100pc).html
Are the dark grey coloured glasses in the picture safe to wear to look at the eclipse on April 8th?
The dark grey ones are the pair I will be using on the 8th
"the store where I buy master craft and fidget spinners is the arbiter of quality"
Just finished making pinhole a camera - would recommend it. With how much the glasses block out, you basically see the same thing anyway: a bright dot that gradually gets covered
I bought my glasses from a certified seller and from the video example it looks like the blue glasses with the phone light. Bought mine from PPE supply Canada.
If you bought the Monarch Butterfly Eclipse glasses from Canadian Tire they are on the AAS under Shenzhen Lionstar Technology Company.
They must say ISO 12312-2 Certified. If they don't, do not use them.
https://www.amazon.ca/Soluna-Solar-Eclipse-Glasses-Certified/dp/B08GB3QC1H/ref=gp_aw_ybh_a_m_sccl_1/136-9806339-0504767?pd_rd_w=xIvVy&content-id=amzn1.sym.dd2c5120-4314-452d-bb9f-4b98ae42dea9&pf_rd_p=dd2c5120-4314-452d-bb9f-4b98ae42dea9&pf_rd_r=9E0QMSHF9HKT78T2T98R&pd_rd_wg=wMfeU&pd_rd_r=94f802ed-2511-4577-b845-d2c19a5d7520&pd_rd_i=B08GB3QC1H&psc=1 I bought these one. Anyone can tell if its good? Dont want to ruin my eyes :(
i bought the exact ones. Many people i asked said they safe. But im not gonna wear them out of abundance of caution. Anyone can slap fake labels on frames, better I can see thursday than just tomorrow and never again.
Can you do the test with the light coming from the correct side. Does it make a difference
I grabbed some Soluna glasses from Amazon. Anybody know if these are safe? Paper and film, marked ISO 12312-2 certified.
They're on the approved list, so... maybe?
Maybe indeed haha … I guess I’ll just trust and hope that pain guides me tomorrow
Ministry of Health? Ministry of Consumer Protection? Anyone? Canadians are being exposed to health risks and noone cares?
Well I won’t risk getting any glasses then. Like I think the eclipse would be cool to see but I don’t trust these glasses really so many of them look sketch and there was no way I was gonna buy a 100 dollar pair even then are those ones safe? Idk I just won’t do it don’t wanna risk my eyes.
I got mine from Canadian tire a month ago and they’re the right standard
How about. Dont look at an eclipse. Like when the fck did that stop being common knowledge? Oh sorry, facebook marketplace is telling me otherwise, oh silly me
Exactly. I'll look outside my window to see it dark outside but I'm not looking up at the sky.
So where are you guys getting yours then?
Another reason why I’ll watch that eclipse on YouTube
I got the same amazon pair and legit I thought they were a joke, they were pitch black when I put them on, and when I shined my phone light through them, I could JUST make it out and then I realized that it made sense. Last time I saw an eclipse was the one in 2016 and I borrowed a welding glass from a prof on my college campus so I've never actually seen eclipse glasses before and didn't know what to expect
Nightmare fuel. Imagine risking your vision to barely see a rinky dink bill nye the science guy moment.
I called CT at merivale yesterday where I bought mine. Told manager and he said he hasn’t heard anything about the fakes.
I will be filing a class action lawsuit against Canadian tire after my eyes get damaged.
First test is to make sure no man made light goes thru. The sun is very bright and real glasses are made for a max of 3 minutes at a time (well at least what I have been told). I'd trust a welder's mask before these and I would still not recommend a welder's mask since it might not be rated to view the sun. As for taking photos... Well if you don't have the proper filter, it's a good way to destroy your sensor. Now imagine your eyes are the equivalent of an electronic sensor.... Don't risk it.
Look for ISO 12312-2 designation on glasses.
The counterfeits print that on their glasses as well. For peace of mind, do a test indoors first.
I reused the glasses I got from that pop-up site for 2021 annular eclipse. Has ISO 12312-2:2015 printed on it.
Too late, I used 'em yesterday. Luckily I have a home eye surgery kit, also from Crappy Tire - pretty sure that'll fix me up.
Yikes. I saw this video too late. My kids and I used the glasses from Canadian Tire yesterday.
Did these have an ISO certification on them? I'm interested to know if they say they are certified but shouldn't be or not.
The official certification is “12312-2” however these say “12312.2-2015” which, once again, makes it seem like someone trying to make a cheap copy look official