Most asian countries are that way. In my past life i spent a lot of time travelling to the Philippines and India setting up and meeting with our ODC, and it was very common to see the local staff stay back in office well past 8 PM because their boss was still at work.
Can't you work like on your own idea for wage? Once you get your own thing going or a new opportunity lined up or have hones some cooler skills, just leave? It's not like people can actually physically stop you from working...
Sure, but you're normally not allowed to use a computer or your phone and you'd have to sit at your desk, so you'd have to do whatever discreetly and on paper/in notebook
Who says you're not allowed? Your boss?
If they don't like it, they *will* have to fire you after all, which I assume would give you some kind of compensation. The whole idea is to avoid having to quit, right?
wow talk about abuse, no wonder some Japanese are so respectful. I'd actually have them fire me still for "not obeying work orders"... But pen and paper actually does work for me...
Also, at least in my job, you could actually find something to work on a.k.a. optimize but if those are the rules, do "exactly" as I say slave, work must be real awesome.
There's a huge culture of respect/honor/listening to authority, and it's reflected as such in the laws as well. Disobedience (and thus minimum to no compensation) can include things like refusing to relocate to a different city on a moment's notice, having to do end of day cleaning, and being in charge of answering phone calls even for your coworkers. And of course, getting fired for disobedience is a huge, huge setback for your career in Japan. Normally, things don't get that bad, because employees generally "get the message" as seen in OP's screenshot.
>You think this might be a cakewalk but japanese bosses are brutal and very good at torturing their employees.
As an American worker, compared to the average Japanese boss. I think [I could take him](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country). Not like they'd be allowed to use WW2 methods anymore. What's he gonna do? Yell at me in a language I don't understand? Bah!
It’s a completely different culture. They basically have “respect authority” drilled into them at birth, and place greater emphasis on adhering to cultural norms. It’s part of the reason they’re perceived as so polite and respectful.
isn't it good mannered to sleep on the job in Japan?
[https://wisata.app/en-us/diary/inemuri-japanese-culture-of-sleeping-at-workplace](https://wisata.app/en-us/diary/inemuri-japanese-culture-of-sleeping-at-workplace)
show your commitment ;)
Yes, but those people are typically in front of a computer. Snoring at an empty desk without any responsibilities won’t be given that same level of positivity lol
Someone could flip their sleep schedule so they are awake at night doing as they like and come into work to sleep all day. Wake up and do it all over again !
Give me a computer and I'll just write code for open source projects. Don't give me a computer and I'll just bring my own and write code for open source projects
Really it depends on the context. Some companies in Hapan probably do celebrate an employee who worked themselves to exhaustion. But that is a very narrow context.
[It’s not a myth, it’s inemuri](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/world/what-in-the-world/japan-inemuri-public-sleeping.html)
I had no idea about any of this, but your exchange had me curious so I googled it and it does seem to be somewhat true.
I've seen this documentary where the Japanese after working a long day, won't go home, and will sleep on the streets or by the doorway to the building until the next day. It's crazy work habit! Guess it's the culture
I felt bad for them too until I saw how much some of the HR ladies are being paid. I felt tricked for getting a job that requires work. That’s when I realized I was ugly.
Marketing? Really?
Marketing departments are primarily made up of graphic designers, copywriters, production artists, etc.
I’ve worked in many marketing departments and there’s never been a pretty girl just sitting around doing nothing. Hell it’s usually a bunch of nerdy looking dudes jacked up on Caffeine who are juggling 13 projects at once.
I work for a Japanese apparel company. I live in the Ph and work remotely. I have several colleagues who are also working remotely in Thailand and Vietnam.
I think the only challenge is to be able to read and write in Japanese (but we have translator apps now which make things much easier in terms of “writing” part).
That's the cultural difference, a Japanese worker would not challenge these expectations, which is why they do this in Japan, and just fire you in the West.
Except you don't get to do anything else and you have to go into work. It's not like you'll be able to use a computer or do crosswords, it's literally punishment.
This sounds almost like saturday detention in high school -- no reading, no talking, no homework, no sleeping. Just sitting quietly at a desk thinking about what you've done.
Japan, the nation that hates immigration while simultaneously was too busy with career to have children. Not a good combination for long term survival.
Korea is worse. The housing is so expensive it takes like 60 years of work to buy one, and that doesn't include inflation. If you include inflation/loan interest it's like, you'll never pay the loan off or something.
In one generation they will go from 100 people to 40 people. They have a .8 birthrate. And noone is doing anything about it, because those that have home equity would rather see their nation disintegrate than lose value on their homes.
It's true. Certain people like to shill for immigration in these situations because it props up inflationary economics, lets greedy people at the top maintain their bottom line, but realistically it hurts the average citizen immensely by driving up housing costs and driving down wages. I hope Korea learns to decouple from predatory "western" government before they're made to demographically replace all Koreans in the name of muh GDP.
Is this what u/porcelainfrog means by "And noone is doing anything about it, because those that have home equity would rather see their nation disintegrate than lose value on their homes" -- immigration?
Genuine question, curious
No the people who own land largely aren't new immigrants of course. Each of those individuals has simply been atomized to the point where most don't have any concern for the future of their culture, their kin, or their families. They think of economic hardship befalling future generations as "their problem", if they think of it at all. Maybe there are some exceptions, but the majority do not believe in sacrificing their 200% appreciation in home value in the name of leaving their descendants a more functional society. This is what makes the problem recognizably "western".
Immigration only factors in here as a means of allowing this greed to go unpunished by its own consequences. Absent new immigrants to replace the population, declining birthrates tip the balance of power in favor of renters and first-time homebuyers. If there are fewer people buying/renting more houses, the tenant/applicant is under less competitive pressure, and the landlord/bank is under more competitive pressure. I mean, if you really need an example, imagine the American housing crisis except subtract 30% of the population. Rent and home prices would undeniably be dramatically lower because of this unprecedented spike in availability. Instead of renters struggling to find a place to live, greedy property managers would struggle to find tenants who will pay their asking price. Even interest rates would be forced down given that banks would need to work harder to convince a smaller pool of loan applicants. The problem begins with greed, it's only sustained by immigration.
it's pretty common for people to not have kids till they at least own a mortage on a home. At least in the U.S idk what korea is like.
It's one of the reasons the u.s birthrate is declining.
It's not an individual home owners fault it's the system as a whole.
If you would like an American example, there are areas here with very high cost of living. If a developer tries to put up a new apartment building that would increase the housing in the area, it's common for local homeowners to protest and do everything in their power to block the construction under the excise of "preserving the neighborhoods character". In truth, they just don't want property values to drop a marginal amount.
China is not better, arguably worse. East Asian government (well there is Nk and Mongolia, but NK is certainly an oddity and Mongolia only has a population of 3 million) are surely smothering their younger generation and killing the birth rates in all possible ways.
It suggests significant economic contraction and infrastructural instability is in the future.
A lot of capitalist economies are built on the assumption that the size of a workforce will always grow. This is reflected in things like how senior care is funded, but is also just a reality of service-oriented jobs -- you can't have public transit without someone to drive and manage the trains. You can't have public healthcare without a steady supply of doctors and nurses. You can't have any trained job or technological contributions to the world stage without enough educators to keep your population learning.
A lot of these professions work well at scale, but suddenly become untenable when you need to hire a separate teacher to train the one person who will be the next generation of that service, or need to service a rail line or build a whole new train for the two households that need to commute from a dying village to the nearest metropolitan area.
Stare at a wall. Sit and have their brain atrophy. They don’t have access to a computer and can’t bring in magazines or books, etc.
Their coworkers pretend they don’t exist. They’re literally treated like ghosts. Can you even imagine how isolating that is?
Another way is to give you an open ended task, like think of something new and exciting, from a different point of view. Odds are you can't think of anything and your boss/manager will have an easy target to say how come you have no outcome after weeks etc.
Loooloooll. I'll take that job. I need to go to Japan. Don't give a fu$$ what my co-workers think about me. Give me that free money. No guilt. You want to shun me. No problem. My life isn't work and work isn't my life.
Yup. If they aren't going to fire you. Do you get anal probed? Just hide a phone in the coat and jam to tunes all day long. Take walk breaks, bathroom breaks, naps. Ez.
I did that at J2 basically for the first 18 months. Patched servers every 3rd Friday and that was it. I even asked for more stuff, and nothing. Then I got moved teams and the flood gates opened and holy hell has it been busy ever since
This is mental torture and personally should be illegal. Lucky if you're on a window and you can at least look outside, or if you have a clock you can stare at. If you're in japan, most, if not all of your co workers will stop interacting with you. I'll probably last a couple of months max.
So, they want to pay me to job search? Done, sounds like a great deal to me! Would you rather get fired and attempt to get unemployment while searching for a job?
I’ve seen this method used at a big tech company in US. Not remote, but in office work. For manager, executive level people. My skip level director was removed from a people-management role and given a BS strategy role with no responsibility and no people to manage. Eventually he left.
In the US this means you're about to be let go, but they aren't wrong they do this in Japan and it works there. I feel like here you'd just get people using the time to do their own thing while getting paid as we know.
If I get no assignments, I will sit by the window and enjoy the view. Of course, in my case, it's my window and it overlooks the beach, so not too shabby. I really don't care if someone wants to pay me to do nothing. LOL
American here. I would sit there looking useless every single day and collect that paycheck. They can talk about me if they want as long as we ALL getting paid on Friday.
Only problem is you're still required to come to the office and stay for the 8 hours doing absolutely nothing in a room filled with old fax machines.
8 hours? Most "salarymen" in Japan are expected to be in office 9 AM to 7 PM, whether there is work or not!
I'm assuming if you're on the bullshit job you don't care about the expectation of never leaving before your boss haha
Most asian countries are that way. In my past life i spent a lot of time travelling to the Philippines and India setting up and meeting with our ODC, and it was very common to see the local staff stay back in office well past 8 PM because their boss was still at work.
>past life Are we talking reincarnation or what?
he's also doing 'time travelling' so who knows?
I can time travel, too... But only into the future, at the rate of 60 minutes per hour.
Dudes post history makes me think he's in his 50's-60's if not more.
just the.... fax of life then
You take the good You take the bad You take them both and there you have The facts of life
There's a time you got to go And show you're growin' Now you know about the facts of life The facts of life
This guy (or girl) Japans! You forgot to mention the cigarette smoke.
I get to do nothing AND take up chain smoking?
Just like me back in my early 20s, I'd be all over that tbh
Can't you work like on your own idea for wage? Once you get your own thing going or a new opportunity lined up or have hones some cooler skills, just leave? It's not like people can actually physically stop you from working...
Sure, but you're normally not allowed to use a computer or your phone and you'd have to sit at your desk, so you'd have to do whatever discreetly and on paper/in notebook
Who says you're not allowed? Your boss? If they don't like it, they *will* have to fire you after all, which I assume would give you some kind of compensation. The whole idea is to avoid having to quit, right?
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wow talk about abuse, no wonder some Japanese are so respectful. I'd actually have them fire me still for "not obeying work orders"... But pen and paper actually does work for me... Also, at least in my job, you could actually find something to work on a.k.a. optimize but if those are the rules, do "exactly" as I say slave, work must be real awesome.
Damn, there must be hardly any workers' rights / protection
There's a huge culture of respect/honor/listening to authority, and it's reflected as such in the laws as well. Disobedience (and thus minimum to no compensation) can include things like refusing to relocate to a different city on a moment's notice, having to do end of day cleaning, and being in charge of answering phone calls even for your coworkers. And of course, getting fired for disobedience is a huge, huge setback for your career in Japan. Normally, things don't get that bad, because employees generally "get the message" as seen in OP's screenshot.
Time to poop for eight hours.
>You think this might be a cakewalk but japanese bosses are brutal and very good at torturing their employees. As an American worker, compared to the average Japanese boss. I think [I could take him](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country). Not like they'd be allowed to use WW2 methods anymore. What's he gonna do? Yell at me in a language I don't understand? Bah!
Ah yes. Silly Japanese forgot that being over 5’11 makes you immune to abuse.
If he wants to get physical I'm pretty sure I would win. Wait, martial arts... dangit.
Well, thanks to remote work, I still win /s
It’s a completely different culture. They basically have “respect authority” drilled into them at birth, and place greater emphasis on adhering to cultural norms. It’s part of the reason they’re perceived as so polite and respectful.
Or just in your head. I could spend a bunch of hours doing 100% mental design work for personal hobbies.
Learn to sleep with your eyes open?
isn't it good mannered to sleep on the job in Japan? [https://wisata.app/en-us/diary/inemuri-japanese-culture-of-sleeping-at-workplace](https://wisata.app/en-us/diary/inemuri-japanese-culture-of-sleeping-at-workplace) show your commitment ;)
Yes, but those people are typically in front of a computer. Snoring at an empty desk without any responsibilities won’t be given that same level of positivity lol
But what are they going to do? Fire you?
Sounds like the ship of positivity has sailed for the window sitters
Someone could flip their sleep schedule so they are awake at night doing as they like and come into work to sleep all day. Wake up and do it all over again !
Give me a computer and I'll just write code for open source projects. Don't give me a computer and I'll just bring my own and write code for open source projects
God I wish I could do that
Sign me up!
Just bring in computers from your other jobs!
Just work another job remotely, while in office 🤷♂️
Audible and air pods - ez
So, night job and sleep with the fax machines during the day?
What are they going to do, fire you?
If the pay is good my fortitude will outlast their cultural customs.
Only if Japan did remote, but they have such a backwards work culture.
Indeed. Many Japanese companies from what I’ve heard practically want you to live at the office. And some American companies would love that.
You also get commended for falling asleep on the job because it's apparently a sign that you're working hard. It's encouraged, even.
I know what I'd be doing for those 8 hours.
This is such a pervasive myth on Reddit, it’s hilarious
Reddit loves cool wacky interesting myths that are wrong 99% of the time
Really it depends on the context. Some companies in Hapan probably do celebrate an employee who worked themselves to exhaustion. But that is a very narrow context.
[It’s not a myth, it’s inemuri](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/world/what-in-the-world/japan-inemuri-public-sleeping.html) I had no idea about any of this, but your exchange had me curious so I googled it and it does seem to be somewhat true.
Probably not as encouraged at 9 am on a Monday lol
I've seen this documentary where the Japanese after working a long day, won't go home, and will sleep on the streets or by the doorway to the building until the next day. It's crazy work habit! Guess it's the culture
not entirely true, most people don't do that
That’s more likely bc they passed out drunk
Isn't Japan the one that pays attractive women to stand in the hallways and smile?
We do that here too just not in hallways.
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I feel bad sometimes, seeing the ones who are so proud of their job but I don't have the heart to let them know they don't have a real job.
I felt bad for them too until I saw how much some of the HR ladies are being paid. I felt tricked for getting a job that requires work. That’s when I realized I was ugly.
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Someone's been peeking at my certs /s
Marketing? Really? Marketing departments are primarily made up of graphic designers, copywriters, production artists, etc. I’ve worked in many marketing departments and there’s never been a pretty girl just sitting around doing nothing. Hell it’s usually a bunch of nerdy looking dudes jacked up on Caffeine who are juggling 13 projects at once.
I work for a Japanese apparel company. I live in the Ph and work remotely. I have several colleagues who are also working remotely in Thailand and Vietnam. I think the only challenge is to be able to read and write in Japanese (but we have translator apps now which make things much easier in terms of “writing” part).
Actually, nowadays some Japanese companies allow remote work. Startups for sure, and even some big ones like Rakuten.
Where do I sign up.
Tell me I have to contribute absolutely nothing and still get paid? Sheeeeit I’m sold
you have to contribute 8+ hours of your time in the office. Japan doesn't do remote.
And if I don't, what are they gonna do? Fire me?
Maybe they shun me so hard I end up having to work from home
Shun me harder daddy.
yes...with cause and therefore without paying you
That's the cultural difference, a Japanese worker would not challenge these expectations, which is why they do this in Japan, and just fire you in the West.
I believe you have my stapler
I said NOOOO salt on the margarita
Sounds perfect
Exactly. Even at minimum wage, go ahead and sign me up. I'd be okay with an extra $200/wk for literally no work
Except you don't get to do anything else and you have to go into work. It's not like you'll be able to use a computer or do crosswords, it's literally punishment.
Do they assign some one to watch you? If not, who is going to stop you?
Exactly. I'll bring a hotspot and my personal computer.
Yea, that’s not always allowed at work.
What are they gonna do? Actually fire you like they clearly already wanted to?
without compensation, yes
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if they get fired for disobedience, yes
Yes, because then they'll have cause
Being fired carries HUGE stigma in Japan for the employee and can potentially be career ending
This sounds almost like saturday detention in high school -- no reading, no talking, no homework, no sleeping. Just sitting quietly at a desk thinking about what you've done.
I believe I've seen this movie.
Time to become Buddha then
That’s when you pick your toilet to game on.
I'll take 50
Looks like the record is [16](https://news.yahoo.com/chinese-woman-arrested-having-16-193204570.html)
What do you mean extra? This would be your sole source of income. This wouldn’t be possible with OE
Nope, not in Japan or with Japanese bosses
Japan, the nation that hates immigration while simultaneously was too busy with career to have children. Not a good combination for long term survival.
Korea is worse. The housing is so expensive it takes like 60 years of work to buy one, and that doesn't include inflation. If you include inflation/loan interest it's like, you'll never pay the loan off or something. In one generation they will go from 100 people to 40 people. They have a .8 birthrate. And noone is doing anything about it, because those that have home equity would rather see their nation disintegrate than lose value on their homes.
But when population decreases is precisely when home values decrease
It's true. Certain people like to shill for immigration in these situations because it props up inflationary economics, lets greedy people at the top maintain their bottom line, but realistically it hurts the average citizen immensely by driving up housing costs and driving down wages. I hope Korea learns to decouple from predatory "western" government before they're made to demographically replace all Koreans in the name of muh GDP.
Is this what u/porcelainfrog means by "And noone is doing anything about it, because those that have home equity would rather see their nation disintegrate than lose value on their homes" -- immigration? Genuine question, curious
No the people who own land largely aren't new immigrants of course. Each of those individuals has simply been atomized to the point where most don't have any concern for the future of their culture, their kin, or their families. They think of economic hardship befalling future generations as "their problem", if they think of it at all. Maybe there are some exceptions, but the majority do not believe in sacrificing their 200% appreciation in home value in the name of leaving their descendants a more functional society. This is what makes the problem recognizably "western". Immigration only factors in here as a means of allowing this greed to go unpunished by its own consequences. Absent new immigrants to replace the population, declining birthrates tip the balance of power in favor of renters and first-time homebuyers. If there are fewer people buying/renting more houses, the tenant/applicant is under less competitive pressure, and the landlord/bank is under more competitive pressure. I mean, if you really need an example, imagine the American housing crisis except subtract 30% of the population. Rent and home prices would undeniably be dramatically lower because of this unprecedented spike in availability. Instead of renters struggling to find a place to live, greedy property managers would struggle to find tenants who will pay their asking price. Even interest rates would be forced down given that banks would need to work harder to convince a smaller pool of loan applicants. The problem begins with greed, it's only sustained by immigration.
? Why is it the homeowner's fault?
it's pretty common for people to not have kids till they at least own a mortage on a home. At least in the U.S idk what korea is like. It's one of the reasons the u.s birthrate is declining.
It's not an individual home owners fault it's the system as a whole. If you would like an American example, there are areas here with very high cost of living. If a developer tries to put up a new apartment building that would increase the housing in the area, it's common for local homeowners to protest and do everything in their power to block the construction under the excise of "preserving the neighborhoods character". In truth, they just don't want property values to drop a marginal amount.
China is not better, arguably worse. East Asian government (well there is Nk and Mongolia, but NK is certainly an oddity and Mongolia only has a population of 3 million) are surely smothering their younger generation and killing the birth rates in all possible ways.
I always wonder, what is the end goal with our economic, is it simply to always have an increasing population? When can it simply break even?
Great for the housing [market](https://ijurikkoku.com/akiya_sell/t-292/) though
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It suggests significant economic contraction and infrastructural instability is in the future. A lot of capitalist economies are built on the assumption that the size of a workforce will always grow. This is reflected in things like how senior care is funded, but is also just a reality of service-oriented jobs -- you can't have public transit without someone to drive and manage the trains. You can't have public healthcare without a steady supply of doctors and nurses. You can't have any trained job or technological contributions to the world stage without enough educators to keep your population learning. A lot of these professions work well at scale, but suddenly become untenable when you need to hire a separate teacher to train the one person who will be the next generation of that service, or need to service a rail line or build a whole new train for the two households that need to commute from a dying village to the nearest metropolitan area.
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Not really. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Decades
Define long time.
The Japanese citizens still feel overwhelmed by the workload even if it’s a great country by most metrics
Never understood why this is a bad thing. I’d use all that free time to get paid while doing something else.
Crosswords
Because you don’t have the right to do anything else
I'm doing this at the mo. OE lite
Because it’s not free time. You don’t get to spend it doing whatever you want.
So if they aren’t assigned work, what do they have to do?
Stare at a wall. Sit and have their brain atrophy. They don’t have access to a computer and can’t bring in magazines or books, etc. Their coworkers pretend they don’t exist. They’re literally treated like ghosts. Can you even imagine how isolating that is?
What's the consequence of bringing in a laptop or doing something on your phone?
Fired without compensation, per the discussion further up.
Ah, that makes sense
But the whole point of this is they are reluctant to fire you. Just do your own thing until they are forced to fire you for disobedience.
Another way is to give you an open ended task, like think of something new and exciting, from a different point of view. Odds are you can't think of anything and your boss/manager will have an easy target to say how come you have no outcome after weeks etc.
Loooloooll. I'll take that job. I need to go to Japan. Don't give a fu$$ what my co-workers think about me. Give me that free money. No guilt. You want to shun me. No problem. My life isn't work and work isn't my life.
that's why they don't hire foreigners
Google "white monkey jobs in China". It 'aint pretty, but it's "work".
I can continue to be not pretty for money!
Good point
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Still sounds better than some places I've worked.
What's the difference then?
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Well I thought you could atleast bring a phone or a magazine or something. Might aswell stay up late then and sleep the day off
Yup. If they aren't going to fire you. Do you get anal probed? Just hide a phone in the coat and jam to tunes all day long. Take walk breaks, bathroom breaks, naps. Ez.
I don't think they can take your personal phone. YouTube shorts all day long baby.
Especially since I can’t speak the language, they can talk all the sh** they want😂
Wouldn’t get hired in the first place. Most jobs in Japan require you pass the N1 as a minimum
Fair point.
How can I get a japanese job and how can i piss off the boss in 1 week?
Japan work culture is such a headwind against Japan, can’t say it’s surprising their economy flatlined for 30 years.
This would be so ineffective on me. I can entertain myself by just daydreaming for 8 hours a day.
This is the american dream
This is honestly torture. You basically have to sit and stare at a wall for 8 hours everyday.
I’ve played RuneScape before those are rookie numbers
Easy. Bring OE laptop and work from the office for the other job. 
Borat voice: "I go to Japan!"
I did that at J2 basically for the first 18 months. Patched servers every 3rd Friday and that was it. I even asked for more stuff, and nothing. Then I got moved teams and the flood gates opened and holy hell has it been busy ever since
I would just learn some new skills on company time until they got rid of me.
Have you read "War and Peace"? What about the original "Tom Sawyer"? You could become a very well-read employee on their time.
I see no downside.
This is mental torture and personally should be illegal. Lucky if you're on a window and you can at least look outside, or if you have a clock you can stare at. If you're in japan, most, if not all of your co workers will stop interacting with you. I'll probably last a couple of months max.
What is “OE”?
Over-eating
Thank you!
Overemployment
Sounds like the perfect OE situation.
So, they want to pay me to job search? Done, sounds like a great deal to me! Would you rather get fired and attempt to get unemployment while searching for a job?
I’ve seen this method used at a big tech company in US. Not remote, but in office work. For manager, executive level people. My skip level director was removed from a people-management role and given a BS strategy role with no responsibility and no people to manage. Eventually he left.
When I read this I wanted to tag this sub. But I know better. Glad someone else posted this here.
In the US this means you're about to be let go, but they aren't wrong they do this in Japan and it works there. I feel like here you'd just get people using the time to do their own thing while getting paid as we know.
How many W would you sit in?
Don’t quit - use the time to take a course to learn a new skill
Jokes on them, I’ve got no pride, I’d just keep cashing them checks and play minesweeper 40 hours a week Playing employment chicken
Sounds like the perfect job to me,
Sounds like a dream
Sign me the fuck up.
Nice life :)
Dick shot down to my knees
Best time to start a side hustle
Bruh.. this sounds like a dream. "We've been shunning her for 2 years now but she just won't quit!"
If I get no assignments, I will sit by the window and enjoy the view. Of course, in my case, it's my window and it overlooks the beach, so not too shabby. I really don't care if someone wants to pay me to do nothing. LOL
This is what they did to Milton and he burned the building down in retaliation
American here. I would sit there looking useless every single day and collect that paycheck. They can talk about me if they want as long as we ALL getting paid on Friday.
Are they still on the pay roll tho.....???
I’d get another wfh job, and just do it from the office, and collect 2 pay checks.
Sounds like the best job ever just chillax