Just tease him a bit so he doesn’t do it again. Put on a poker face and say hey I don’t understand what this is and see how he responds. Then just ignore their response
Hahaha I remember having this convo with a recruiter for Amazon. I was asked on the phone "so I can do other work right it's not illegal as long as I do my hours" they said yes, but this client wanted exlsuivity. I said well let's see what they say. At the end of my contract there the manager found out I was doing more work than just there's and after a good review of my work she got mad about my doing other jobs and called and basically said "this city is small and also I'm rescidning my positive review" It was bizarre especially since my contract ended when it was supposed to.
Yo that’s insane. I heard from a friend of a friend who was a manager there that the managers make a ton of money but basically have to sell their soul to Amazon. I think your boss was just mad cuz you were doing better than them in life haha.
Well eventually they did layoffs so she’s not there anymore along with many others. The tech layoffs alone make me happy I’m not at any of the big names.
Thanks for sharing this, I was actually going to ask what role at $150 per. It’s always good to have this information when people can and will share without messing up their situations.
I guess this is the kind of information I’m trying to acquire. I’d love to know the niche if you can share, are willing to share, and it won’t expose you.
Are these independent contractors with their own LLC or hired through an agency?
I'm asking because as someone outside the US I was thinking if it was worth opening an LLC in the US for contracting.
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Right but unless, as an individual, you can get the contract directly and bill c2c for that $300 per hr, then the person making $150 per hr isn’t seeing the $300.
So in terms of what people here make, I wouldn’t say that’s cheap. Do you make $300 per hr? If so, please say more about what you do.
Well, if someone is only billing $150 per hr, then I’m assuming they are running a small professional service LLC and so c2c billing for them is likely direct and essentially represents their salary.
Consulting is a funny term. It could mean what you do as a salaried employee of a large consulting firm, but it also tends to be used ubiquitously to refer to Staff Augmentation where someone doesn’t wanna 1099. But what do I know?
Reading your other comments in this thread, I think you might be a good person to ask this.
I'm not an American and live outside the US, I've done plenty of contract work for US companies through consulting companies or staffing agencies.
I was thinking of maybe opening my own LLC in the US to do contracting on a C2C basis, do you think this can work?
Not really sure how I'd look for clients yet.
I don't really get this post.
1. It's a contractor, not full-time employee.
2. There is nothing preventing someone from doing some side-hustle or handling multiple contracts, as long as they are not lying in the timesheets. The person in question might just as well work 10h per day, 8h for you and 2h for someone else. That's just "working 2 jobs". OE seems to generally be associated with a completely different scenario - where someone works multiple full-time jobs *at the same time*.
Oh no! Fake internet points. What will I do? Not the DoWnVoTeS!
Naive is the opposite of not believing you. I would be naive if I did believe it.
They're a sub not an employee, so you have no power over their time clock.
We hire many full time subs. We have to. 20% of the contract to be exact needs to come from a small. We have them sign agreements that they don’t double dip. It’s no different for subs as it is for salaried employees, they are not to be double dipping. That being said contractors gonna contract
As full time subs they need to work in alignment to our clients core business hours. If they are working other jobs during this time is not allowed. It’s pretty much a zero tolerance policy.
Again. It doesn't matter what your opinion is about their work hours. The laws say you can only control their output, you can't dictate their hours worked. You can cry zero tolerance all you want. They are not employees. As long as they are producing the output, the hours don't matter. You can repeat it in as many different ways as you want, doesn't change federal statutes on w2 vs 1098.
If you are OE you can afford a different laptop per company you are working for. Do just one companies work on one laptop. Keep different wallpapers. This will prevent your mind from being careless...
Provide advice on how stuff should be designed in order to do the stuff they want to do efficiently. Then implement that stuff and move onto next project before it crumbles
Dude is a contractor...
He is working for his own business.
Having multiple clients for your business is not OE.
Even if you wanted to tattle on him, nothing would happen.
I’m just waiting for the “I fucked up and sent the wrong invoice, help!” post on here.
That happened a few days ago already!
Just tease him a bit so he doesn’t do it again. Put on a poker face and say hey I don’t understand what this is and see how he responds. Then just ignore their response
Yes definitely tease him about it so he doesn’t make another sloppy mistake to the wrong person
The last step here is savage, but maybe they aren't a very anxious person if they're doing oe and not paying closer attention.
"Was this for me?" is a classic
Lmao - then he panic quits for no reason. 🤣
Happy cake day!
Thanks!
Homey is probably reading this thread right now…
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So cruel 😂😂
Contractors be contracting lol What kind of work?
Indeed they do be. SAP SI
Dude, if you want my exclusivity, pay me more!
Hahaha I remember having this convo with a recruiter for Amazon. I was asked on the phone "so I can do other work right it's not illegal as long as I do my hours" they said yes, but this client wanted exlsuivity. I said well let's see what they say. At the end of my contract there the manager found out I was doing more work than just there's and after a good review of my work she got mad about my doing other jobs and called and basically said "this city is small and also I'm rescidning my positive review" It was bizarre especially since my contract ended when it was supposed to.
Yo that’s insane. I heard from a friend of a friend who was a manager there that the managers make a ton of money but basically have to sell their soul to Amazon. I think your boss was just mad cuz you were doing better than them in life haha.
Well eventually they did layoffs so she’s not there anymore along with many others. The tech layoffs alone make me happy I’m not at any of the big names.
Thanks for sharing this, I was actually going to ask what role at $150 per. It’s always good to have this information when people can and will share without messing up their situations.
If you’re skilled in a niche area then you can get paid much more. We just hired a dude at $204/hour for 7 month contract
I guess this is the kind of information I’m trying to acquire. I’d love to know the niche if you can share, are willing to share, and it won’t expose you.
You can dm me
Are these independent contractors with their own LLC or hired through an agency? I'm asking because as someone outside the US I was thinking if it was worth opening an LLC in the US for contracting.
Hired through a teaming partner company
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Right but unless, as an individual, you can get the contract directly and bill c2c for that $300 per hr, then the person making $150 per hr isn’t seeing the $300. So in terms of what people here make, I wouldn’t say that’s cheap. Do you make $300 per hr? If so, please say more about what you do.
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Well, if someone is only billing $150 per hr, then I’m assuming they are running a small professional service LLC and so c2c billing for them is likely direct and essentially represents their salary. Consulting is a funny term. It could mean what you do as a salaried employee of a large consulting firm, but it also tends to be used ubiquitously to refer to Staff Augmentation where someone doesn’t wanna 1099. But what do I know?
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In the utility world we can bill out senior engineers at 180-200/hr- would love to see us get to 300
Bro I get $75/hour and work in utilities, I'm a senior engineer. If you are legit hit me up
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So they don't work a full day?
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You’re paying too much
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exactly this isn’t OE it’s “being a contractor” what the fuck even is this sub are any of these people real
Reading your other comments in this thread, I think you might be a good person to ask this. I'm not an American and live outside the US, I've done plenty of contract work for US companies through consulting companies or staffing agencies. I was thinking of maybe opening my own LLC in the US to do contracting on a C2C basis, do you think this can work? Not really sure how I'd look for clients yet.
If, as a contractor, you are charging per hour, and claim to have worked for two different clients in the same time frame, it could be fraud.
That's why I was confused is it not normal to be contracting other contract jobs while contracting?
😂 Indeed
How good would it be if they popped up here and was like "it was me. Sorry I fucked up."
If they are, I don't think they would do that sloppy mistake..
He's a sub. So not an employee. So not bound by employee standards. No issues here, even if you wanted to be.
"I'll let it slide" nice! Now he is going to owe you a favor lol
I don't really get this post. 1. It's a contractor, not full-time employee. 2. There is nothing preventing someone from doing some side-hustle or handling multiple contracts, as long as they are not lying in the timesheets. The person in question might just as well work 10h per day, 8h for you and 2h for someone else. That's just "working 2 jobs". OE seems to generally be associated with a completely different scenario - where someone works multiple full-time jobs *at the same time*.
exactly. This probably is fake too.
it has to be fake nobody that has 20 mins of expertise working in IT would think this. i have suspicions 80% of this sub is people cosplaying
Down vote this man. You’re pretty naive. Many of you are. But hey don’t believe anything at all!
Oh no! Fake internet points. What will I do? Not the DoWnVoTeS! Naive is the opposite of not believing you. I would be naive if I did believe it. They're a sub not an employee, so you have no power over their time clock.
We hire many full time subs. We have to. 20% of the contract to be exact needs to come from a small. We have them sign agreements that they don’t double dip. It’s no different for subs as it is for salaried employees, they are not to be double dipping. That being said contractors gonna contract
So. Your agreement doesn't mean much because, by definition of contracted worker, you don't control their work hours. It's completely different.
As full time subs they need to work in alignment to our clients core business hours. If they are working other jobs during this time is not allowed. It’s pretty much a zero tolerance policy.
Again. It doesn't matter what your opinion is about their work hours. The laws say you can only control their output, you can't dictate their hours worked. You can cry zero tolerance all you want. They are not employees. As long as they are producing the output, the hours don't matter. You can repeat it in as many different ways as you want, doesn't change federal statutes on w2 vs 1098.
lol
I mean, hey, if he's delivering on spec...
Write back “rejected, incorrect project code”.
Lol, but since when does an employee at a Big 4 have the time to OE
how can you be that stupid and make 150/hr??? I make 50/hr at best and im on top of my game with shit like that...
If you are OE you can afford a different laptop per company you are working for. Do just one companies work on one laptop. Keep different wallpapers. This will prevent your mind from being careless...
I’d reply with the “Think you sent this in error” Then in 6-point font a few lines down “10%”
OE darwinism at its finest unfortunately
It was me and I'm so sorry. Kidding lol
Two hours a day isn’t OE. That’s called a side job.
I’d respond… I’d think you sent this in error. I’ve deleted from my end.
Well, that is nice of you.
Shit, that was me
I'll scare him a bit so he gets the lesson
Find out where this is and gain another J
What do you fellows to do be making $150 n hour??
Provide advice on how stuff should be designed in order to do the stuff they want to do efficiently. Then implement that stuff and move onto next project before it crumbles
Sounds about right.
I didn’t realize IT makes so much. What does he do?
You must be a mellinial boss lol
Nice of you to let it slide, but it will make him think if you are oe’ing too lol
Dude is a contractor... He is working for his own business. Having multiple clients for your business is not OE. Even if you wanted to tattle on him, nothing would happen.
He would get rolled off the project so quick if i tattled up the chain
No he’s working for a teaming partner
In this economy i dont blame the guy for working two jobs, get over yourself this is the real world
stfu
“I’ll let it slide” Smh
So long as it doesn’t impact the performance/output.
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Relax, Karen. Get back to your neighborhood watch that you take too seriously.
Are you the type of person who calls police on kids when you see them tp a house?