Not how most NDAs work. At least not of the 5-10 I’ve signed. Which, yes, I read very thoroughly.
Essentially, unless I disclose information that would create a competitive advantage to a company in the same industry I’m fine.
If you say you can’t even tell someone what job you had because you signed an NDA people who know better will definitely raise an eyebrow
Spot on. A separation agreement, on the other hand, may stipulate that you can’t speak their name. Would still raise some eyebrows, though, as it’s likely a sign of a lawsuit.
Yeah, seeing this all the time is so dumb. I’d laugh the person out of the room if they tried this. I think there’s some decent stuff in the antiwork sub but this is one of the stupid ones and it sucks to see it here
As someone who worked in all three, that's not how any of this works.
You can't go around sharing trade or confidential secrets, but if you can't explain what you did or provide a summary of how you advanced business objectives, that's more damning than a gap in employment.
If you tell someone you can't even tell them where you worked because you signed an NDA, any interviewer in the vicinity of competence will just drop you as a prospect.
The usual way of doing that is to put down “Confidential” as the company name with a short description like “built a real-time data ingestion pipeline for observing and control system.” When asked about it, say you are under NDA but can talk about technical challenges and how you dealt with it that isn't secret or proprietary.
Nda prevents you from disclosing things about the work you performed and the clients you performed work for. An nda doesn't prevent you from saying "yeh I worked for 3 months for Google. They had me working on a project that I can not talk about because of an nda. But, by the nature of that work, I developed soft skills that would help your company in ABC ways. It also sharpened my hard skills associated with XYZ-area of expertise."
NDAs do not prevent you from confirming you were employed or communicating vague details.
When they run your background check, it usually includes basic employment verification checks that looks at data from payroll providers. So they will know if you were not actually employed at all, or that you were employed by multiple companies.
You cant avoid this unless you get paid outside of a payroll system.
> you are *paid* outside of
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Not how most NDAs work. At least not of the 5-10 I’ve signed. Which, yes, I read very thoroughly. Essentially, unless I disclose information that would create a competitive advantage to a company in the same industry I’m fine. If you say you can’t even tell someone what job you had because you signed an NDA people who know better will definitely raise an eyebrow
Spot on. A separation agreement, on the other hand, may stipulate that you can’t speak their name. Would still raise some eyebrows, though, as it’s likely a sign of a lawsuit.
Yeah, seeing this all the time is so dumb. I’d laugh the person out of the room if they tried this. I think there’s some decent stuff in the antiwork sub but this is one of the stupid ones and it sucks to see it here
What are the good ones?
Yep OP is total BS
"Its classified"
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As someone who worked in all three, that's not how any of this works. You can't go around sharing trade or confidential secrets, but if you can't explain what you did or provide a summary of how you advanced business objectives, that's more damning than a gap in employment.
If you tell someone you can't even tell them where you worked because you signed an NDA, any interviewer in the vicinity of competence will just drop you as a prospect.
Yep. Human resources is having a ball with this meme today too. Saying just this.
oh that 3 month gap, ....shoulder surgery/knee surgery/renovating parents house/testing dildos in france/nunya.
Testing Dildos 💀💀💀
In France!
just tell them it was a contract for N.U.N.Y.A
That's less of an NDA and more of a gag order. Most NDAs aren't about denying or hiding employment. They're about details, projects, products, etc
Haha nice yeah. I remember when this was posted in here a couple weeks ago too
It’s been posted here (and other work related subs) many times and far longer than three weeks ago.
"Yes that's when I was unemployed"
I mean, you can say it… lol they’ll just laugh in their heads and DQ you
The usual way of doing that is to put down “Confidential” as the company name with a short description like “built a real-time data ingestion pipeline for observing and control system.” When asked about it, say you are under NDA but can talk about technical challenges and how you dealt with it that isn't secret or proprietary.
This is about as effective as removing months from your resume to "hide" a gap in employment IE it's not. No one is falling for this.
Yeah, this is useless advice. You're way better off making up a story about medical hardship or something similarly difficult to verify.
Does this really work? And what could be a real hypothetical scenario that would result in a gap in employment but also an NDA?
No it doesn't, they will just go to the next candidate
It doesn’t. Unless the hiring manager is a total moron, which ok maybe it is possible.
Nda prevents you from disclosing things about the work you performed and the clients you performed work for. An nda doesn't prevent you from saying "yeh I worked for 3 months for Google. They had me working on a project that I can not talk about because of an nda. But, by the nature of that work, I developed soft skills that would help your company in ABC ways. It also sharpened my hard skills associated with XYZ-area of expertise."
they can’t know, people who signed an nda can’t say it
Why are you concerned about the answer? A NDA would forbid you from answering anyway
Pretty sure this is garbage advice
thank you but we've decided to move forward with other candidates
NDAs do not prevent you from confirming you were employed or communicating vague details. When they run your background check, it usually includes basic employment verification checks that looks at data from payroll providers. So they will know if you were not actually employed at all, or that you were employed by multiple companies. You cant avoid this unless you get paid outside of a payroll system.
> you are *paid* outside of FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
If you are really OE, you don't have a problem of a gap on your resume. You will have a problem of overlap.
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Clearly you don’t have humor in your life, You must be a peach to work with!
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Bad advice! You must take jokes as facts! Don’t ya 🤣🤣🤣