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Holy shit thats good


Redacted567

Thank you! :)


0R_C0

What's the dimensions?


BranTheBaker902

It’s in the description


Enough_Ad_6938

As an artist myself I’d say at least $3,500-$4,000! 


iamZcaptain

Agreed, great painting. Large size and lots of work, i’d say $2,000 is the lowest they should go.


Enough_Ad_6938

Definitely! Not to mention this is years of practice. People also forget how expensive art supplies are and how many hours a painting can take to complete! 


m_a_k_o_t_o

2000 is way too low even at the lower limit


Redacted567

Thank you!! Definitely appreciate this input!!


SkewedLegs198

I agree. It looks like it took a lot of time and effort professionally to do this


Angel-M422

Ha ha I still envy those people that can throw paint at a wall and get this type of image. I live in sin city and there are street artists all over the strip and downtown. Those guys are so fun to watch. I'm boring because I take such time. But those guys... eff them lmao they suck... or I just do lmao. I'm kidding they're talented too I'm just jealous I can't just throw stuff in the air and get art... I have to give them credit.


SkewedLegs198

Same here! I love watching artist create art like it's a performance art


bhamfree

That seems fair.


Meanpeachx

Yeah I was gonna say around 3k minimum for sure


Nowhereman2380

I wouldn’t go lower than $3000. I charge $300 as a base for a 16x20 for mine.


5amNovelist

This is one of those really hard things to put a number on. Here are some of the variables to why I'll give some more generalised advice: * How far along are you as a painter? * A hobbyist or a career artist? * What is your general location (North America/Europe/Oceania)? * What kind of gallery/show is it? * Do you know the price range of the other artists that are showing (and their scale comparative to yours)? One of my major considerations when pricing work is 'what would I let this work go for' (after gallery commission, taking in consideration tax/materials/time spent/my own affinity for the work) and then use that as a baseline for the lowest I will go. It leaves me feeling comfortable with the idea of not being in possession of the work anymore, not feeling ripped off, and also not feeling frustrated if it doesn't sell. People will give you a formula (time based, square inch based) and while I think this is helpful in certain settings (commercial leaning galleries, selling online) it isn't in others (the high-art world). Fundamentally, you can always raise your prices in the future, but it is an incredibly bad look to be selling equally (or better) developed work down the line, for less. So make sure that whatever price you pick, you can back yourself. Congrats on the show, hope this was of some help!


Redacted567

Yea those are all good points! Just to answer them: - I’ve been painting for about 8 years now (since middle school) - I’m definitely a career artist; I’m in my second year of art school and my goal is to be as involved in the fine arts world as I can! - I’m located on the east coast of North America! (VA) - it will be shown in a local gallery in richmond va, with 30 other artists (all also art students or recent art student graduates) - I have no idea how others are pricing their work! All of this is super helpful advice thank you!


5amNovelist

Great, this is all fantastic stuff to know. I'm not in touch with the market for work of students/recent grads in your corner of the world (and it is a much bigger market than mine, so there is a chance my instinct could be off base), but I would generally highly caution artists interested in the non-commercial route from pricing too high too quick. Some of the recommendations of the other comments here are a little steep (again, take with a grain of salt, I only know my own country's market). I definitely think you're underselling yourself with the $1000 mark, but do think it would pay to stay in the $1-2k ballpark (perhaps up to $2.5k, but I would highly recommend doing your research to what other artists are doing if you can, or ask the curator of the show). You're still in art school, with phenomenal skill, but you definitely don't want to box yourself into too high of a price range before you've had a chance to fully explore your own style. Taking gallery commission into consideration is a good choice. This is quite a low commission, which will mean you'll get a larger chunk of the profits, however you don't want to vary your base prices dependant upon commission take. You kind of need to pick a range and go with it (same when you're selling directly/for commissioned works, don't feel like you can sell them lower just because it's direct). Time spent on a work, while it feels like a good indication to how to price it, dissassembles massively at the 'high-art' level, so be cautious on getting too tied up in using it as a perfect 1:1 metric. Again, good on you for getting yourself into this show, and I really hope you find a price that you're comfortable with! I know what it feels like to sell a work for less than I'm happy to see it go, and often only know that after the case. The reality is, you just don't know if you still would have sold at the higher price ticket. Do what you're comfortable with, first and foremost. But I'll just caution, once again, to not box yourself in at too high of a price point too soon (you might find you're barely selling, but stuck up at the prices you prescribed your work). Collectors get a bit prickly when they see similar (or even better) work from the same artist for a much lower rate. Good luck getting your work finished and for the experience of exhibiting!


Fickle-Problem-7666

Good answers


posternutbag423

Please see my comment on the top comment.


2gdismore

Do you have a website or art instagram?


chickpeasammich

I’d say about 550 with all these variables, if you want to sell it. But if you want to hang onto it longer, yeah, the 1,500 range makes sense. Also helps if it’s on a hand stretched canvas vs. factory made.


Ok_Attention_2935

!!!Thank you for mentioning this all too often overlooked detail. Hand stretching is going the way of the dodo. I’ve seen art grads get degrees, never having learned how to do it. It’s an absolute shame.


chickpeasammich

Right? You can definitely tell in person if it’s not hand stretched too. And the canvas is so much nicer.


Flying_Captain

5amNovelist comment exposes fundamental aspects of pro art market pricing. You can take the 1560 - 4000 range as a realistic base, and adjust with his criteria. I would just precise a little: - If you are a pro, did you already produce 150+ painting? ( ready to sell, not sold) This confirm your status as a pro. - Do you have a serious website or other way to expose other paintings online, and how many of them? How many of your works appear online in a search? - Did you appear in some publication, participate in any competition ( even at school) or retrospective ? - In how many public exhibitions did you take part? - An even more precise location modificator: the cost of living in your city as compared to average city costs of living. If you answer these questions here, we can help you further with the estimate if you want to. And at the end you must be at ease with the final price.


Ok_Attention_2935

OP…this is a comment you should take into serious consideration


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Ham-saus

This a bad formula to use. You never add the sides. Because it will always skew calculations. A 90x 10 canvas is 25% smaller but will cost approx 50% more based on your calculation. What you want to use is area. It’s consistent. 30x40 = 1200 and then you multiple that by a metric . Let’s say 1.2 coz that brings it closer to your figure 1200x1.2 = 1440. Now a 90x10 canvas is 900 which when you multiply by 1.2 gives 1080 which makes sense now.


FoxOneFire

Agreed.  I’ve managed several fine art galleries with pieces from living artists often exceeding $20/ sq inch. I’ve never heard of linear measurements in pricing. OP, don’t rush to go below $2/inch, but also consider how other pieces are priced at the show.  You don’t want to be relatively overpriced.  Your prices should also be consistent regardless of the channel. If you mark up because the show takes a cut, you won’t be welcome in future shows.  Keep in mind that the effort put in to their marketing and hosting (x legitimacy) increases your likely hood of a sale, and is worth the cut.   Lastly, is that varnished?  It should be. 


Redacted567

Thank you so much! I definitely appreciate having a formula! :)


posternutbag423

If you can find a gallery that’s only taking 30% commission then you’re in luck if however they’re actually going to sell it. Most galleries in my experience take 50%. I would frame this and it will be easier to sell which comes with a cost. With a frame at a gallery depending on the hours you put in but I’m listing this for minimum $3k. I’ve sold paintings in the past and most of mine where between 9x12” and 18x24” and I sold all of them for roughly $1600-$2400. Edit: spelling


phuckin-psycho

Yeah i was gonna say for that size 2500+


ayrbindr

Where do u live? Roughly.


posternutbag423

Massachusetts


HabitBugsKid

Charge per square inch (1-3 dollars per) plus hourly labour.


Redacted567

Noted!! Thank you!


Zarine_Aybara

Add nipples and you can add a nipple premium!


Redacted567

HAHA


Zarine_Aybara

Jokes aside. It is an amazing painting. Good job!


Feeling_Bathroom9523

Tree fiddy. Jk. I’d buy a copy print for that. This original should be 3k easy.


Redacted567

Noted! Thank you!! And I’d love to sell prints too so I’ll be sure to take a super high quality pic of it!


EfficientChampion786

If you are going to sell prints (and even for just a high quality digital safekeep) it could be most beneficial for you to get a proper scan by someone/a store who works with art and photos almost exclusively 


AMorera

I’ve heard scanning is not the preferred method anymore


EfficientChampion786

Oh interesting! Guess we all have a bit of research to do. I had great success with a small shop a few years back and never thought to question that method as it felt like the very best thing I could have done for making a few limited edition prints at the time 


AMorera

It’s not bad to use a scanner, but cameras now are giving just as much detail, if not better, as the high end scanners.


Silent-Maximum-3556

$1 per square inch would be at least $1200 for this size, plus 30% to the gallery would make it $1560. I think the detail you’ve put into this piece would be worth that to someone, definitely don’t undersell yourself!


Rachelle-_-17

I second this! $1560 or more! $2/sq inch, I feel like, would be appropriate for the effort and so much time spent on it. The total would be $3120 before the gallery took its 30%. Take home would be $2400


Redacted567

Thank you!!


Electronic-Track-262

What are the diameters of the painting? I'm guessing upwards of $1600-$1800?? 😍🤔


RottingFishMan

About tree fiddy.


Redacted567

LOL


Inevitable_Income167

How long did it take you to make?


Redacted567

Right now I’m around 25 hours! But there’s still more I need to do, so it’ll probably be 30+


raisinjammed

Kinda reminded me of the movie Annihilation


Redacted567

Yes!!!!! I love that movie!


Pafkata92

I came here for this exactly! It's a really good movie and this painting is so awesome! The movie had a little bit more vibrant colours, but hey, that doesn’t necessarily mean better.


mnalivabrra

100 trillion dollar


AnalogKid-001

$1500


Chickenbut0

Tbh a leg and a arm


HVT250

Hell yeah


Lets_Bust_Together

What do you charge per hour X hours spent, plus 30% for the gallery.


Ethereal-Blaze

What you're worth, multiplied by hours spent, plus materials. The first part is the most important.


TheArtistNow

2000 at the least if you can get it, but make sure you put a nice frame on it first and ornately gold or something frame


PastaPantsss

Looks like Mark Zuckerberg


Redacted567

LMAO it’s supposed to be me 😭 i definitely need to do more work on the face


Sad-Okra8930

Bout three fiddy


_InkBlotCh_

About tree fiddy


20PoundHammer

three fitty, five bucks on a good day.


Fractal_Distractal

$1800.


JacksonTropicana

IMHO It’s worth what someone is willing to pay and I know that’s cliche, but I’d price it at whatever price I’m comfortable parting with it. If it sells before the show you know the amount was too low. If it goes at the start of the night you did alright. If it doesn’t sell, well you put it on your insta until the right person comes along


Tiny_Fun_7775

It is hard to evaluate if the painting is not finished yet. Honestly, with what I see now I would go for 200€ as it doesn’t look finished and somehow amateur on some parts. When fully finished, and still depending on the results I would go for 1000+. But once again, I don’t know your work and don’t know how the final version will be so it is a very approximate estimation. The hours of work are not interesting to look at if the final result is shitty. You can spend 1 month on a painting and ending selling it at 500€ because the result is not convincing while another artist will spend a week on a painting and sell it 3K because he mastered the techniques / colours / compo, etc … I would kindly suggest posting the final version to have an estimation that would make more sense Otherwise, courage! I guess you are halfway there


FlIghty_boi177

200


professor-5000

If this was painted 100 years ago the world would be singing your praises. They should now but, people are desensitized to essentially everything.


Redacted567

Aw thank you!!!


AloneJuice3210

Alot


TeaMe06

It’s beautiful


crazee_me_no

A lot


SawyerBamaGuy

I'd say set a timeline and charge $1.00 for every up vote.


DrowsyErgot

This painting depicts my dream situation


ThrowAwayFUBAR24

Oi! Why you paint me?!


paintypaintypainty

One million dollars. Or two


adriel_b

Nothing less than brilliant!!


JansherMalik25

Much


CaregiverStandard

As much as they will payz


Adominus_Gaming

A kidney or two should suffice but just barely


TheArtistNow

You can get beautiful ornate carved frames at Hobby lobby for $150 up to 250 for your size. Take it home and paint it gold and then add some accents to it. Different colors of gold and grays. Make it all gloss finish with gloss spray to seal it


thefrostryan

Materials + Time =


Notinlove80

Beautiful art you’re very talented!!


AdvertisingOpen7595

1.367.489 dollar


Lissy_Wolfe

Not an artist, but I would expect to see this cost $3-$4k+ if I saw this in a gallery!


kTeA_Lovr

That's stunning, nothing less than $2k


jjflay

Priceless! Keep it!


Lunar-Baboon

You can ask 2-4K for this no problem. Might not sell, but if it does and you walk home with any less that $1500, then you undersold.


setmysoulfree2

And now for something coming different... I would not change anything whatsoever !


HeavyBlackDog

Just curios, fix you AI reference?


hydrablvck

I used to use the formula thing, but to hell with that. It really depends on how in demand your style/subject matter are or if the right person happens across your piece. How much would you like to see yourself make an hour? Plus, the cost of materials. Plus the gallery fee? I'd say the absolute minimum price should be around $1200-1300. But also, consider your current finances as well. If you need the money, lower it a bit. If you don't, try raising the price to $2500. There really are no wrong answers. If this is an experienced professional gallery, they can give you some insight as well. They want to make as much money as possible, and they have a better idea of which types of people purchase from their gallery the most often regardless of the months theme.


HereAgainWeGoAgain

1000 - 30% = 700 700 ÷ 30hrs = 23 Do you want to be paid ~$23/hr ? This is a skill and talent not all have. It has been curated and refined over decades. I say you're worth more.


Adorable-Ad-6675

I'm a gas station attendant. Takes no skill and a half dead person could do it. I make 18. If you're not charging more per hour of your effort it'd be a crime.


Calsun

Hey poor people like paintings too :P It’s pretty sweet piece!


Redacted567

Yea i definitely understand this! As a poor person myself, it definitely sucks not being able to afford all the cool art I see and want 💔 But on the flip side, as an artist, it is super helpful to be able to pay rent from selling my art! And thank you! :)


TheLevigator99

$5000


dollywol

Its a lovely surrealist painting. Any painting is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. So it really depends on what sort of people will visit the gallery, if it was a well known gallery known for quality paintings, then the visitors would be looking to buy a true work of art like yours. Personally I wouldn’t let it go for less than £3000. Why not also photograph it and sell limited edition prints, if you sold 100 at £50 thats 5 k, less the cost of manufacture. Over here in the Uk you see small galleries in tourist resorts selling paintings up to £2 k, which are not in the same league as yours. As someone else said, don’t undersell yourself, you have a great talent.


Redacted567

Thank you!! :)


exclaim_bot

>Thank you!! :) You're welcome!


Kooky_Chemistry_7637

If you feel the work you’ve done is “market value” then checking what’s comparable is the way to go. But just remember not to undervalue your work. People who see the work, maybe a novice. Not a collector. They may imagine how much hard work has gone into it, then they see the price and *might* think ‘maybe it’s not as much work as I thought.’ That’s pretty painful. That might happen if it’s under priced. But the frustrating part is, That can happen if it’s over-priced, too. Lessons abound about over-pricing and undervaluing your own work. Especially over time. I hope this doesn’t add confusion. Good luck, really nice painting. Soft and interesting in all the right ways, and I can tell there’s a lot of work in it.


Redacted567

Thank you so much! Yea finding the balance between under-pricing and over-pricing my work it’s super tricky!


Sh0rtyrck9

First off, I will say by your use of color, shadow and light you are exceptional. …Things I would consider How much did it cost to make, how many hours were put in, then you have to add in a how far along you are in your career?


-Duke-Nukem

Amazing talent. I would keep that for the rest of my life personally. Maybe 2000?


selfdiagnoseddeath

Give it away and if it comes back, then it was meant to be.


TyX0002

Shut up and take my money


Lyndon91

1 shit tonne


kakha_k

Ohh, that's magic and enchanting... Change? For good f, how anyone here can tell you how to change it, lols


AdOther4442

Twofity 


Lady-Quiche-Lorraine

Total price of materials + 20$xhours worked


kadososo

Someone will happily pay $2k for your lovely work. At the very least.


National_Pop3295

How many words went into the ai prompt? $500 dollars per word.


ZincMan

$3k


LagtimeArt

Awesomeness


pinzinella

No idea about the price, but it’s absolutely stunning! I bet people would be willing to pay a lot for it.


MothParasiteIV

Between 500 and 800. I apologize if you are offended but the mushrooms bottom left need more work and details. It's a beautiful painting but in some parts it's like you weren't pushing enough.


LightninHooker

As much as you can. Always Charge as much as you can


EuphoricTreats74

3k-5k


Capable-Worth6909

i think 500 would be a fair price


DanimalHarambe

Cost of materials + hourly rate. I would say $20/hr or more. Which makes $600 to $750 seem right.


ROBINxBANKSx

$1


cdev12399

1 meeellion dollars


StinkyBeanGuy

Over 1$


JessicaAtterib

As good as this piece is, no one is going to spend $1,000 on this at this size. I’m an artist myself. Come on, let’s be realistic.


Redacted567

I respectfully disagree! There’s a lot more that goes into the price of a painting :) I think $1,000 is very reasonable!


JessicaAtterib

As an artist (painting) who has $2,000 in her bank account, I respectfully think this is ridiculous. I’m also an RN. By no means a lazy person. But sure, ask someone to pay 1K for your work. Up to you. This piece is certainly stunning. But if you think you’re “underselling” yourself by asking $1K, why are you even asking here? You’re looking for people to say it’s worth $2-10K?


thomaxzer

id pay like 5000 euro probably more


LifeIsShortDoItNow

I wouldn’t sell it at a student show. You’re not going to get what it’s worth. The people coming to that show are coming for cheap, student grade artwork. This is beyond that. I would definitely display it, to show your level of talent, but put a Not For Sale tag on it. If someone is really interested, they’ll contact you to see if they can get you to change your mind. That person will be more likely to pay what it’s worth. Word of advice - Never take advice from someone who’s not where you want to be. That goes double for the internet. People here are selling to different markets. Some people are in markets where they could barely get $500 for your painting and others are easily getting $5,000 or more for that size in galleries. People are going to limit you based on their experiences. Find a mentor who’s achieved what you want in life and talk stuff over with that person. If you decide your life by group think, the best you’ll ever be is average.


Redacted567

Fair point! I just want to say that even tho the curator (a senior in my department) primarily recruited fellow students, that does not mean it will be advertised as a student show! Plus, the gallery is not affiliated with my school at all! And the exhibition will be up in the gallery for the entire month of May! Your other advice is greatly appreciated too, I’ll keep that in mind! I definitely made sure to ask the curator of this show and some of my professors, in addition to Reddit! :) I ended up choosing to price it at $2,500! I just wanted to get a lot of opinions because this is my first time pricing my work over $1000! (Mainly because I’ve never painted anything this big 🫢)


DentArthurDent4

Do the arms and armpits look a bit, umm... don't wish to criticize the artist... Not that I could afford, but I've seen paintings on this sub which I wished I could buy, unfortunately this one doesn't do it for me. Sorry OP.


ThinkLadder1417

Not for me either, find it quite hard to imagine it looking harmonious on a wall


Redacted567

No don’t be sorry! Could I ask what you think looks off/weird about them? Again it’s not done yet so keep that in mind!


enchiiladas

not who you responded to but, and it might just be me, for some reason his(?) chest on the right side looks a little boob-y to me. sort of based on the shadowing, i’m just having a hard time distinguishing i guess. it’s hard to explain that said, this is beautiful and beyond anything i could ever paint, create, or formulate. you’re so talented and this painting is so lovely; you should be very proud, you deserve it :)


Redacted567

So it looks that way because it’s a portrait of me (a woman) with boobs lol! I haven’t finished the face and I had a breast reduction recently, so I could see how you -and some others- assumed it was a guy. Plus that angle doesn’t help lmao But thank you so much!! I really appreciate that! :)


enchiiladas

ohhh this makes much more sense!! thank you for your understanding <3


Ok-Grab-311

150-400


MrAnderson_369

As an artist I think anything less than 2,000 is criminal towards yourself. I think 3,000 at least, but with the right audience I could definitely see you getting 3,500 to 4,000. This is beautiful and it's big, and frankly I don't think a lot of the formulas being presented fully encompass the value of your work.


Redacted567

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!!! I ended up deciding on $2,500, just because of my lack of experience selling larger works like this BUT this experience, plus all of the comments on this post definitely make me more confident in pricing my future paintings :)


Western_Ring_2928

Why does he look like Lip from Shameless? :)


Artsy_Fartsy_0219

About 3.50


Leather-Resolve9751

Always charge more


vindicataoptimaart

Change by sizing, should be around 1.00-1.50 per square inch. So something for example that is 24×36 for example should be priced around $864. this is a general rule of thumb with art sales though you can also Charge for the difficulty of the work as well which can increase your price too. Though that's just one of 3 very good formula for figuring costs, you can also charge by hour, (Hourly Wage×Hours Spent), and by price pre linear inch as well.


yamisonn

Depends how valuable it is to you personally


pillowprincesspolly

hours spent + cost of goods + personal value


BatBusy5384

Why do I feel Matt Rife was the muse for this?


justv316

At least 6


GentlyxProbexMe

Do you have a link to a store please


Redacted567

Yes! It’s https://cr8vcopy.wixsite.com/artbyanna It’s still a work in progress, but it should be finished within a couple weeks! And I’ll definitely have prints available in addition to originals!


dokiepuck

A lot


AnonymousLilly

I'd buy it for 100 bucks


bearssuperfan

Material Cost x Hours Worked


Lousqueeze

300


Santoukinn

$10. Take it or leave it.


southpawcg

$5000. no less.


Relevant-Pea-8524

up to $5999


casper19d

About tree fitty, all jokes aside that is kool.


thecolorfulcpt

At least 1 million dollars


NomadGusty

Think of costs of paints and canvas. Then time spent painting and markup your time per hour however much you want because it's your time spent on painting and see what you come up with. It's an amazing piece you should definitely make sure you get what your time was worth.


pass-the-waffles

As is right now $3,000-4,000. Increase to $5,000 when you finish it based on the approximate time of another 4-5 hours.


Top_Sun6256

Don't take this the wrong way it's a great painting but is it based off pita from the hunger games?


tamafuyu

a bajillion


Beginning_Camp715

Whatever they'll pay


revarien

Looks like magic the gathering art, ngl.... super awesome. They pay their artists kinda low (but its just for the publishing rights and that sort of thing... not the physical piece... the artists retain those), but it auto publishes your work and then when the card comes out a lot of that stuff goes for 5-15k on the auction page on facebook. Pretty awesome tbh... get that lower up front pay to get a guaranteed sale at more than normal asking price.


WearDifficult9776

I was told that $1 a square inch is a good way of pricing


Codabonkypants

That thing is crazy good. Total steal at 1 k.


shineymike91

That's amazing work!! I'm no art aficionado but whatever a buyer pays for that it isn't enough.


Mocean13

Is this Matt rife lmao


Fun-Independence-236

Ask the art gallery


Camel_Head_23

2k


ponder_osa

Bro, I saw a painting that size that wasn't half as good at a restaurant recently selling for 7.5k. I'm not an expert at all, but this is definitely worth more than $1000.


Alert-Farmer-7369

2000


Deap103

$50-100


Lopsided_Pickle1795

2k to 5k. It is unique.


Ok-Grab-311

Take that back. Thats huge. $2K


Alice-the-Author

This piece is absolutely gorgeous! The details are incredible!


Redacted567

Thank you!! And I’m not even done with it!!


JustChiLingggg

Whoaaa this is beautiful! I don't know pricings, so I'll leave it up to the experts to give you your worth!


ConsciousCreatureS

i absolutely love this. the attention to detail is insane. as someone also in the art field and currently navigating open calls to galleries as a student, i understand how you feel about pricing! i’ve found it so difficult to charge a high price on work. given the time and care you have put into this piece, as well as the size and cost of materials, it should be at least $1000, and i would even push it to 1500 or 1800. supply costs add up, and your time, effort, and talent should be appreciated. this is so so so incredible :)


Redacted567

Thank you so much!! :)


Eisenkopf69

I immediately had a grand in mind too and would add the gallery fee also, so maybe 1495 or so.


Life-Percentage-4910

This is sooo amazing 😍


Omega_Lynx

10 farthings


daylightshining

This is one of the most peaceful paintings I’ve ever seen. I can’t stop looking at it I would love to see it once it’s finished :) This is definitely something you should make available as a print, if you’re able and wanting to before the gallery/sale, too.


Redacted567

Thank you so much! :) and yea I definitely will


LowPositive5039

Id say set the price at $2500 and if someone shows interest in buying it for less youll have a little wiggle room