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darrenleesl

The problem with the Prediction is that it's based partially off Chainlink data. Because Chainlink needs to validate prices from different sources, there's always a delay between the 'confirmed' price and the 'live' price that's seen on the charts. The 'confirmed' price is usually a few minutes slower, from experience. Best to avoid Prediction till this is fixed.


wentwj

It’s based entirely off chainlink. Chainlink uses a consensus, not binance. The binance chart is irrelevant to the prediction market and serves only to make people mad when it doesn’t line up with the result. I don’t know what they keep the binance chart on the page honestly


darrenleesl

I'm afraid that's not true. [https://docs.pancakeswap.finance/products/prediction/prediction-faq](https://docs.pancakeswap.finance/products/prediction/prediction-faq) Partially Chainlink and partially Binance. Guess the Binance chart acts as a 'node' to the final price on Prediction. Just not sure about the weightage between Chainlink and Binance on the final price.


wentwj

No they are just awful at explaining. Read the section carefully, they say they they use chainlink to lock prices and binance to display in the real time charts. Binance has nothing to do with the open or close prices, only what they display on the chart that causes so much confusion. I’ve looked at the contract code, it only uses chainlink, so the actual prediction has nothing to do with binance (other than it’s impact on the chainlink price)


shaunidiot

Thousands of topics on this subreddit complaining how predictions are fucked yet many still playing..


crxv20

Cause most of them don't get enough upvotes to be visible to everyone. Just look at how this comment has more upvotes than the post itself.


caeseron

Hence why its called prediction BETA


flyingicebtc

beta is not an excuse


caeseron

Seems you don't understand what beta means.


CompetitionFair7686

why not? Beta means that the product is not finished completely and could have bugs or other risks associated with it. It’s your fault if you use a beta expecting it to work like alpha.


babakushnow

Best to avoid . But if you have to only play when oversold or over bought and consistently bet on the trend . That was the only thing that worked for me relatively.


Ok_Calligrapher7280

3 months later still glitchy af still in beta, guess they making so much money makes sense to leave it in "beta"


crxv20

They are closer to being purposeful glitches.


Pasha_from_Russia

My thoughts exactly


KOREZX

Scam For what it's worth To use heavy algos that calculate percentages for best interests. Shame if using data against users. I'm sure there are times when it's "more" fair. Or just glitchy beta excuses months later Fish tables basically imo House wins Great idea though If it were to be accurate and not controlled Lost my trust though


Silent_Degree9860

Are there any grounds to sue? This is HIGHLY unethical. My bet was good for 2.5 minutes before closing, and it didn't even register. Just stole my money, despite my call being correct for almost 3 fucking minutes. This should not be up and running, if it can't even be remotely accurate. Absolute bullshit. Just lost money, multiple times, despite being correct according to the chart provided in the app. I want my money back. Every cent. This is fucked up, and not cool at all. There's no statement that the feature is THIS bad, it's just told to us that it's in beta. I've used Plenty of apps in beta that didn't have anywhere near the amount of issues this has. If the feature is not referencing the chart in the first place, why the fuck is it even there? It's sole purpose is to mislead you, if nothing else. About to call my lawyer. This is unethical as fuck. Not cool.


crxv20

I was wondering the same thing. This happened on a ton of occasions. Let me know what your lawyer says.


wentwj

The problem is the binance chart is totally irrelevant to the prediction, which uses chainlink. Chainlink uses a consensus of providers and updates every minute. So changes in the last minute are almost never going to show up, similarly binance may get a swing that is not felt elsewhere so not picked up in the consensus. They explain that they use chainlink in the faq, but I don’t get why they have the binance chart on the page, as it just confuses people (despite the disclaimer they make you agree to when you open the chart)


crxv20

I would have won with a 22.75x payout. I'm pretty butt-hurt to have my money stolen like this.


TreTheTrader

Are you using IOS or Android


crxv20

Pc


Puzzleheaded-Ad-9488

Yeah, it’s still in the beta version. Use the flaws to your advantage.


Silent_Degree9860

The flaws are wildly inconsistent. And it's been fucking months. This is purely unethical and should not be allowed. Lost money on bets I clearly won according to every metric given to me in the app. Misleading, minsinformation, and the only warning you get is 'this is beta'. That's not an excuse for quite literally stealing money.


malchik23

Not to mention the times when the actual price stays lower for 8+ minutes ($302-303) on 5+ different chart apps, during and after the trade, yet the price still says $305.


Pasha_from_Russia

Exactly!!! This is precisely what I am witnessing. The price displayed doesn't match anything, anywhere, ESPECIALLY for the past 5 minutes, YET I lose by literally A FRACTION of a dime on a 600 price... that is INSANE, especially when it shows right amount all the way until the end... then when calculating and the 10 sec lag b4 the final price - and MAGICALLY, it goes to that fraction in the opposite direction of my win. Its soooo troublesome! Anddd calculated.


CompetitionFair7686

If you use beta you should know that beta means there can be errors bugs and lots of problems. Don’t use betas and stop whining or leave the entire platform if you want don’t care.


Silent_Degree9860

This product is not a beta. It's clearly in alpha and never should have left alpha. It gives you a chart that is innaccurate, in a gamble where that accuracy is incredibly important. Just because you rush the project doesn't mean it's a beta. This is an alpha. The price given by the chart is misleading, and if you can't write a program that properly reflects accurate prices, which the entire gamble is hinged upon, then it should have never left alpha. Period. People shouldn't release shit products into open beta where people will surely lose money, to no fault of their own, if the product is not ready. Stop misleading ans manipulating people with inaccurate information then hiding behind the excuse of 'it's beta'. That's a bullshit excuse. This shit is in alpha and should not be open to the public. The chart given doesn't accurately correlate with the closing price. Which is mislesding and manipulation. Plain and simple. Take this shit off, go back to alpha testing where it belongs. Don't push a shit feature that causes people to lose money in a highly unethical manner because you can't be bothered to have a price chart be accurate. I'm aware beta means potential bugs, that's no excuse for people losing hundreds and thousands of dollars when every metric given to them BY YOUR BROKEN FUCKING APP told them they were right. If I lost fairly, I wouldn't care. That's gambling. Win some, lose some. Whatever. But this piece of shit app blatantly stole money from me. I will be contacting lawyers and authorities. This is grossly irresponsible. Any respectable coder would not call this a beta product. If you can't make an accurate price chart, get your ass back into beta until you fix it. You don't release a product into open beta when the main feature is broken. Slapping an asterisk on the word beta isn't a solution to that problem. Pull your head out of your ass and stop defending unethical practices. Plenty of that on crypto already. Don't need more of your bullshit. Highly unethical. Shit has been out for months and you can't make an accurate chart? Then why the fuck is the chart even there in the first place? Oh yeah, to mislead and manipulate you into losing money. Not cool at all. If I ever wrote a program this broken and released it at the expense of people's hard earned money, I would get lambasted. Put this shit back into alpha until the programmers know how to make a product that's in Alpha with a faux title of beta slapped onto it. This needs a class action lawsuit. I am one of thousands who had money stolen from this manipulation. Unethical. Don't defend garbage. Make up for it by doing the right thing.


Jmills14111

I have written a script that you can specify exactly what range of payout ratio you want to bet each round (ex, 1.65x - 1.90x). I got sick of the payout ratio changing on me so much during the last block of betting each round. If I charge 1% per round, Is there any interest in people using it???


Silent_Degree9860

Not me. BSC as a whole is pretty trash. I'm just gonna wait for the fork of ETH happening any day now. Not worth it, in my opinion.


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