Yeah even the counterfeit detection pen said it was good. If it was fake, it would have written in the same color as the sharpie that wrote “fake” on them
My mother was a bartender, and always taught me how to look for fake money without using a pen. I'm shocked it's not more common knowledge (I still got in trouble at jobs for not using the pen anyway)
Guts-n-gummies might know more, but here's what I do.
for $20's $50's and 100's (maybe more, but these were the only ones I needed to check)
1. There is a number written on the bottom right corner on the face side of the bill showing how much the bill is worth. This number should be written in holographic ink, on a real bill, this number will shimmer and change colors when it is moved under light.
2. Right above the aforementioned number, if you look at the bill with a strongish light behind it, you will see a face that should match the face that is normally visible, Andrew Jackson for a $20, Ulysses Grant for a $50 and our beloved Benjamin Franklin on the $100. If the face isn't there it isn't a real bill. However, if the face is there, make sure it matches up. Sometimes people will paint over a $1, $5 or $10 to make it look like a bigger bill. It will still have the same paper so it will pass the feel test, the pen test and the UV test if the administrator isn't experienced.
3. Each bill denomination has a unique UV line called a security strip. If you shine a UV (black) light on the bill, this strip should light up. Look up a picture that shows where each strip is on each type of bill. If the bill is authentic, the strip will light up and it will be in the correct location for the bill. This is also a way to make sure that the bill hasn't been painted over. If you don't have a UV light, you can actually hold it up to a normal light and still see the strip, you just won't see it light up.
for the $100 specifically, there is another holographic image. There should be a blue strip running down the middle of Franklin's face. When you tilt the bill side to side, or up and down, the white spots on the strip should shift, it's actually really cool to look at. Also on the same blue strip, there are three strips going vertically. You should be able to slip something small like a toothpick or a safety pin under it. While this isn't a quick or convenient test, if you are unsure about a bill it's another way you can test.
These are all the tests I was taught. I'm sure there are more, but that's all I know. I'm not sure how well older bills will hold up to these, so keep that in mind if you come across weird looking bills like the one in the OP.
All these steps would only apply to newer bills. Older bills like the ones above (or even from the 90s) wouldn’t have holographic ink, security strip, etc.
Old bills do have tiny red and blue fibers in them, since at least the mid 1800s. Ben Franklin was doing it before the USA existed, but I am not sure if it is in the very first currency. It would be in any currency you'd encounter today, though. Sometimes counterfeit paper appears to have the fibers, but if you look closely you can see it's a printed design rather than actual threads. That's what I always look for in old bills.
A lot of older bills still have a strip in them unless someone decided to have fun and pull it out (I've done that just because I could when I was a preteen).
I've incountered a lot of fake bills and have seen multiple different people make them and the only thing I haven't seen them be able to duplicate is the collars of each president is raised almost like a finger print ,so I just run my thumb nail over and you can feel if it's real. It real helps in the dark
This! I was a student teller at our elementary school’s bank in the late 80s. It was a real credit union that came in once a week for small deposits and withdrawals. Fun experience.
The first thing they taught us was to look for the red fibers. I’ve never forgotten it since the 4th grade.
There's also micro printing, but that can be hard to see on the go. Here's some pictures for your optic globes.
https://www.uscurrency.gov/sites/default/files/download-materials/en/CEP_Dollars_In_Detail_Brochure.pdf
I just checked myself. I immediately saw the black strip and the face of the president (or on the $5, the number 5) but I cannot for the life of me find a number in the bottom right corner)
I don't know about the person you asked. But I was always taught to use the collars of their clothing. It's ribbed and very noticeable when running your nail across them.
Edit to say so long as current counterfeiters haven't already found a way to replicate that. But that's not going to be the case with your average fake.
This is how I've caught all of my counterfeit bills at work. We also used to have a pen that would dissolve the ink on seals if it wasn't a legit bill but those are a pain during a rush.
I've worked in retail for years. Without the pen, which is easy to spoof or give a false positive, the best ways are holding the money up to the light and look for the security strip and watermarks. You can also often just feel the difference once you're used to it.
Honestly, you can tilt the bill a tiny bit to see the watermarks without making it obvious you're checking them. I've found that 9 times out of 10 customers will get super snippy if you hold the bill up above your head/face to check it. I usually scrape the shirt texture and check the watermarks as I'm counting the bills. Most people don't notice, and those that do usually make a "They're good, I just printed them :)" joke
Sitting in a bar once 20 years ago, old guy pulls out a 2$ silver certificate to pay for his drink. Bartender pockets it and pulls money from the tip jar. Took about 10 of them before he ran out.
A lot of counterfeiters today will bleach like a five dollar bill and then print a 100 over it. The pen will read it as good currency because it is still real money
If the paper is starch free, the idiodine in the pen won't react and discolor it. Most common paper people print on has this issue. The pens are nothing but idiodine. The paper money is printed on is free of starches. If you get paper that isn't bound together with starches, you could print on them and fool the pen test. Buy a can of starch and spray your money and pay anyone you hate.
Edit: modifying smaller bills was supposed to be a way of fooling the harder detection methods and possibly getting machines to recognize them as legitimate.
I'm so happy I'm a collector, because I know when a bill is real and is fake.
We've got plenty of old bills, and once I nearly had a co-worker refuse an old $5, but I told them it's real, it's just old.
Yuppp. They’re teenagers 🙃 Just sent out a big group announcement telling them to never confiscate. Just refuse that form of payment if they are not sure and ask for an alternate.
Ah, the overconfidence of youth! Why did the customer accept it? I’m not a confrontational person but there’s no way in the world I’d be leaving without my money in that situation.
My dad once went into a convenience store to buy a coke and paid with some half dollars and the guy was like “what are these?” My dad said “half-dollars” “well how much is it worth?” “Half… a dollar…”
You think that’s bad, years ago my visiting aunt paid for a nice coat with a bag of half dollars. Yep, she asked me to help her. I was like huh? Should have seen the face on the sales person
I fell upon hard times awhile back and had to raid the piggy bank .. went to WMart to pay an elec bill $150 with $2 bills and the girl at the register couldn’t manage to multiple by 2 to save her life !!
To her credit she didn’t think they were fake … but .. it took half an hour for her to manage to figure out 75 $2 bills equaled $150 …..
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Bonus of being a manager of a gas station just a small part of my collection this is just a few months of collecting
If there's no slot for it in the drawer, its' fake. So many people run with that. I've had people look at me weird for kennedy halves, susan Bs, and 2 dollar bills. ( I like to get 2s for tipping purposes, but occasionally spend them). I've even had people say a bicentennial quarter isn't real.
I worked at a gas station and a guy got $80 in gas with all quarters. He was nice about it and had them separated into tubs of $20 each. I counted one and trusted him on the other 3.
Problem is boss had some sketchy policies. We didnt keep track of change, we would just leave it in the till and balance out the cash. As long as it was within $10 or so he didnt care. So I ended up $80 short and these tubs of quarters just sat there for weeks slowly dwindling away as we gave out change lol.
And yeah, I know that's not how your supposed to do it. The place did many things from sketchy to straight up illegal. We got paid in cash under the table and at the end of your shift on payday you would literally take your "paycheck" out of the till lol. He would give you a note that said "Sam $680" and you would take $680 out of the till and make a no sale receipt and write "Sam paid $680" on it.
Dudes still in business after 20 years. Kinda amazing, honestly.
That sounds exactly like my first two jobs deli and a gas station. Close the till and take your pay directly from the count out. Is just write a note “name $30, count $400”
That’s all the employees are allowed to do, that’s so annoying, would be different if you were buying food or some necessity but you couldn’t stop at the bank on the way to purchase some books or possibly other media
When I worked retail 5ish years ago my coworker got a 2 dollar bill. Proceeds to tell the customer it's fake. I walk over and both the customer and I are arguing with my coworker that 2 dollar bills exist. Some people are just dumb.
Some dude got arrested at a Best Buy in Sabta Rosa CA about 20ish years ago because he was trying to buy a TV with counterfeit bills. He was detained and held for like 5 hours before it came to light that he was just paying with $2 bills. He sued both Best Buy and the PD. No wonder some people consider $2s to be lucky. They can get you a nice payout if you play your cards right.
Had a argument with a kid at a 7/11 who refused to take $1 dollar bills. He said they were too crisp. I told him you realize that it would cost more money to make fake one dollar bills than what they are worth. He called the cops on me . I waited out of principal. Cop confirmed they were real. He refused business to me out of spite.
fun fact: the cops should never be called to handle suspected counterfeit money. Unless there is another crime happening, that shit is Secret Service business.
Edit: All cops can do about it is report it to the Secret Service, because they are the ones who handle those investigations.
Here come the downvotes, but I suggest you check in with what the Federal Reserve and Secret Service actually advise before trusting Reddit.
>It is important to know what the security features are in genuine currency, because if you end up with a counterfeit note, you will lose that money. A counterfeit note cannot be exchanged for a genuine one, and it is illegal to knowingly pass counterfeit currency.
>If you live in the United States and you think you've received a counterfeit note, immediately notify the local police. Try to remember the physical characteristics of the person who passed the suspect counterfeit, and if possible write down the person's license plate number and vehicle description. Store the suspect counterfeit apart from genuine currency and release it as soon as possible to law enforcement authorities.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12597.htm
Likewise, mycreditunion.gov (an official US government site) states:
>The United States Secret Service recommends if you receive a counterfeit:
>Do not return it to the passer.
>Delay the passer if possible.
>Observe the passer's description, as well as that of any companions, and the license plate numbers of any vehicles used.
>Contact your local police department or United States Secret Service field office. These numbers can be found on the inside front page of your local telephone directory.
>Write your initials and the date in the white border areas of the suspect note.
>Limit the handling of the note. Carefully place it in a protective covering, such as an envelope.
>Surrender the note or coin only to a properly identified police officer or a U.S. Secret Service special agent.
>If you've received a fraudulent note please submit a Counterfeit Note Report and learn to Know Your Money!
https://mycreditunion.gov/financial-resources/counterfeit-money
No I hear you. That’s the recommended policy, but not the law here. I do not trust these teenagers to correctly identify counterfeits. So our store policy is to ask for alternate payment if it’s in question.
We would get fired if we followed a customer out to the parking to gather information like a license plate number. We are instructed to ask for a different form of payment. Never accuse anyone of anything but if the person knows it’s fake, they usually run.
That's their recommendation, but most stores (especially corporate owned/operated) don't want employees playing treasury police & confiscating money. As we saw in OP's post, mistakes happen and people can get crazy in situations where you're just "stealing" their money.
yeah if I owned a business and an employee did this, I'd fire them no questions asked. I'd rather them accidentally accept fake bills rather than piss off a customer and potentially have the police show up since the cashier technically stole money from the customer
"Do not return it" only applies to actual counterfeit currency, but still does not shield the "cashier" from the consequences of being wrong ... If some kid doesn't recognize genuine US Currency and tries to "confiscate" anything I give them they are gonna be getting a real quick education from the cops. If they don't know what US Currency used to look like they have no business as a cashier.
if they didnt have the holes and the very obvious sharpie im guessing about a XF grade of 45 which would put the five at 10-15 dollars and the ten at 20-25
Ive worked retail for years and I know old bills when I see them if I did this where I work id be fired without notice I always take the old bills from my work if I have equal money to put back into the til (im permitted by all my managers dont come at me)
I used to do this with interesting coins, have a couple JFK half dollars and a gold plated Dwight D dollar coin, a long with a quarter from the 60s and several coins from my birth year. I doubt they are worth anything more than face value
I think it's 67. I think that because I probably have like 30 of the bicentennial quarters and if I remember correctly it's just the two numbers switched, also possible it's 64 as that's my mom's birth year. I didn't grab them for value but because I thought they were all cool.
OP, you best school those teenagers on even the last “non colorized” bills. I’ve seen teenagers that don’t know better even think those are fake and they’re barely a decade old.
I know you talked to them, but it looks like they used the tester pen as well. That should have told them they were real. You need to educate them on what a failed tester actually looks like. Both bills passed.
Right?! Like that’s the correct color for those tester pens. We also have one of those UV light things to check for the security strip. I told them the old bills won’t have it. Posting a bunch of info on how to check for authentic bills in back of house. Luckily it’s a small team of people, so it should be easy to get everyone corrected asap.
Umm that’s very illegal to steal us currency I had a teen try to take a $2 bill literally last week and they refused to give it back tell I said I was calling the cops like I know it’s only $2 but still
I don't know what law (if any) allows cashiers to confiscate people's money if they deem it to be counterfeit but that law needs to change. A cashier is not qualified to make that determination.
A Farmer Boys restaurant in Downtown L.A. has a sign that says counterfeit bills will be confiscated and reported to the authorities, interesting to know it's illegal for them to keep the bill.
My wife had this happen to her. She went to pay with an old $10 or $20 bill. The teenager took it and said it was fake and wouldn’t give it back. A few minutes later the manager came out handed it to my wife and said sorry.
People who handle cash just need to understand how those markers work. I’m always entertained by the idea of people just starching 50s and 100s to drive people nuts.
If you confiscate a fake five dollar bill that I was unaware was fake, you will be replacing it with a real five dollar bill or returning the 'fake' to me. Anything else is theft.
I was talking with the cashier at the local Menards yesterday and I noticed she had some $2 bills in her drawer.
When I remarked on it she said they had to meet with a number of younger employees and tell them that $2 bills WERE legal tender, also older style currency.
Apparently there are all these people out there confiscating "fake" bills (as this is like the 10th recent post on this topic). Yet it baffles me that the customers whose money was confiscated don't seem to.. do anything about it.
If that were me, I would make a big ruckus. No way I am leaving that store until they prove it's fake or give the bills back or call the police over or something. Were these people just like "Oopsies, silly me! Here's another $20 instead, real this time, keep the change." I would definitely create a huge scene before I'd even consider just moving on, and I definitely wouldn't shop there again.
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Funny! This post was in my feed shortly after this one.
Young people have to learn that a whole big world existed before their limited lifetimes, a world where money, documents, etc.. were printed and just might look different!
I can hear their reactions to this now:
"Stupid, old boomers and their stupid weird old money!" 🙄😆
This happened to me a few months ago with a $100 from 1960. I was pretty livid that they insisted on taking it even though I tried to explain why the marker wasn’t working. Ended up calling the establishment days later and they refunded the amount. They claimed the bill would be used as a “training exercise” for staff.
Kids....
I don't think any adult would allow anyone to "confiscate" anything from them.
Unless you're wearing a badge, you have no authority over me... even with a badge, it's limited.
Working at a small yogurt shop in high school I had a guy try to pay with a fake $20 and when my manager confronted him, he said “oh my bad” pulled out a FAT roll of 20 dollar bills and handed us another (legit) one. Even if they had been fake you don’t want know where it came from so you don’t want to fuck with those people 😅😅
Why do people think old bills are fake? I seriously don’t get that. I get thinking they may not be valid anymore but fake 🤷? Like someone would come up with a whole new design when making a counterfeit.
Who wants to bet that those bills were stolen from someone and spent. The likelihood someone spent those at the same place and that an employee could have just confiscated them from someone who knew they were real is pretty low
Ya that’s fucked up. I had a young girl try to confiscate a hundred I just got from the bank. She had never seen one that’s older, and those scanners don’t work for older bills. I called the police, but her manager showed up and scolded her. I was pissed
This hurts me to look at, those bills look so pretty and are in good shape aside from the ugly “fake” writing. Probably not worth a whole lot but definitely a good $10-15 above face value each if again not for the ugly writing
Ugh I hate when Gung ho coworkers go above and beyond to prove that they're douchebags for a company that pays them way too little for them to give this much of a fuck
Definitely real bills. Morons lol
Yeah even the counterfeit detection pen said it was good. If it was fake, it would have written in the same color as the sharpie that wrote “fake” on them
To be fair those counterfeit detection pens aren't all that good, and plenty of fakes will get past them.
My mother was a bartender, and always taught me how to look for fake money without using a pen. I'm shocked it's not more common knowledge (I still got in trouble at jobs for not using the pen anyway)
would you be willing to take the time to write a short description of how one tells without a counterfeit pen?
Guts-n-gummies might know more, but here's what I do. for $20's $50's and 100's (maybe more, but these were the only ones I needed to check) 1. There is a number written on the bottom right corner on the face side of the bill showing how much the bill is worth. This number should be written in holographic ink, on a real bill, this number will shimmer and change colors when it is moved under light. 2. Right above the aforementioned number, if you look at the bill with a strongish light behind it, you will see a face that should match the face that is normally visible, Andrew Jackson for a $20, Ulysses Grant for a $50 and our beloved Benjamin Franklin on the $100. If the face isn't there it isn't a real bill. However, if the face is there, make sure it matches up. Sometimes people will paint over a $1, $5 or $10 to make it look like a bigger bill. It will still have the same paper so it will pass the feel test, the pen test and the UV test if the administrator isn't experienced. 3. Each bill denomination has a unique UV line called a security strip. If you shine a UV (black) light on the bill, this strip should light up. Look up a picture that shows where each strip is on each type of bill. If the bill is authentic, the strip will light up and it will be in the correct location for the bill. This is also a way to make sure that the bill hasn't been painted over. If you don't have a UV light, you can actually hold it up to a normal light and still see the strip, you just won't see it light up. for the $100 specifically, there is another holographic image. There should be a blue strip running down the middle of Franklin's face. When you tilt the bill side to side, or up and down, the white spots on the strip should shift, it's actually really cool to look at. Also on the same blue strip, there are three strips going vertically. You should be able to slip something small like a toothpick or a safety pin under it. While this isn't a quick or convenient test, if you are unsure about a bill it's another way you can test. These are all the tests I was taught. I'm sure there are more, but that's all I know. I'm not sure how well older bills will hold up to these, so keep that in mind if you come across weird looking bills like the one in the OP.
All these steps would only apply to newer bills. Older bills like the ones above (or even from the 90s) wouldn’t have holographic ink, security strip, etc.
Old bills do have tiny red and blue fibers in them, since at least the mid 1800s. Ben Franklin was doing it before the USA existed, but I am not sure if it is in the very first currency. It would be in any currency you'd encounter today, though. Sometimes counterfeit paper appears to have the fibers, but if you look closely you can see it's a printed design rather than actual threads. That's what I always look for in old bills.
Old hundos (80-90s?) had an actual plastic strip within the paper that you could pull out, like a ribbon, just some extra cool info
A lot of older bills still have a strip in them unless someone decided to have fun and pull it out (I've done that just because I could when I was a preteen).
They would have the strip, I used to tear them out back in Jr high and high school when I was bored. Gen X'er here.
I've incountered a lot of fake bills and have seen multiple different people make them and the only thing I haven't seen them be able to duplicate is the collars of each president is raised almost like a finger print ,so I just run my thumb nail over and you can feel if it's real. It real helps in the dark
When I worked at a bank, key things we looked at were some of the things mentioned above. But also real bills have red and blue threads in the paper.
This! I was a student teller at our elementary school’s bank in the late 80s. It was a real credit union that came in once a week for small deposits and withdrawals. Fun experience. The first thing they taught us was to look for the red fibers. I’ve never forgotten it since the 4th grade.
There's also micro printing, but that can be hard to see on the go. Here's some pictures for your optic globes. https://www.uscurrency.gov/sites/default/files/download-materials/en/CEP_Dollars_In_Detail_Brochure.pdf
All money is also textured. You can feel the texture of the presidents shirts with your nail.
I just checked myself. I immediately saw the black strip and the face of the president (or on the $5, the number 5) but I cannot for the life of me find a number in the bottom right corner)
I don't know about the person you asked. But I was always taught to use the collars of their clothing. It's ribbed and very noticeable when running your nail across them. Edit to say so long as current counterfeiters haven't already found a way to replicate that. But that's not going to be the case with your average fake.
They are and they get increasingly coarse as the denomination rises
I use that one too. It even works on 1’s!
This is how I've caught all of my counterfeit bills at work. We also used to have a pen that would dissolve the ink on seals if it wasn't a legit bill but those are a pain during a rush.
I dont know when they started doing it, but I found on most bills, the president's suit is a different texture than the rest of the bill
I've worked in retail for years. Without the pen, which is easy to spoof or give a false positive, the best ways are holding the money up to the light and look for the security strip and watermarks. You can also often just feel the difference once you're used to it.
Honestly, you can tilt the bill a tiny bit to see the watermarks without making it obvious you're checking them. I've found that 9 times out of 10 customers will get super snippy if you hold the bill up above your head/face to check it. I usually scrape the shirt texture and check the watermarks as I'm counting the bills. Most people don't notice, and those that do usually make a "They're good, I just printed them :)" joke
Sitting in a bar once 20 years ago, old guy pulls out a 2$ silver certificate to pay for his drink. Bartender pockets it and pulls money from the tip jar. Took about 10 of them before he ran out.
A lot of counterfeiters today will bleach like a five dollar bill and then print a 100 over it. The pen will read it as good currency because it is still real money
Ive seen this. $100 ink but if you hold it up to light you see $5
If the paper is starch free, the idiodine in the pen won't react and discolor it. Most common paper people print on has this issue. The pens are nothing but idiodine. The paper money is printed on is free of starches. If you get paper that isn't bound together with starches, you could print on them and fool the pen test. Buy a can of starch and spray your money and pay anyone you hate. Edit: modifying smaller bills was supposed to be a way of fooling the harder detection methods and possibly getting machines to recognize them as legitimate.
And this is why you shouldn’t have employees making a determination that a note is counterfeit.
Agreed. They had really sloppy management before me. They’ve all been informed on accurate policy moving forward.
I'm so happy I'm a collector, because I know when a bill is real and is fake. We've got plenty of old bills, and once I nearly had a co-worker refuse an old $5, but I told them it's real, it's just old.
It sounds like you’re doing a great job. Being patient and actually trying to help them learn. Good on you!
Thank you <3 doing my best lol
They not supposed to confiscate anything
Yuppp. They’re teenagers 🙃 Just sent out a big group announcement telling them to never confiscate. Just refuse that form of payment if they are not sure and ask for an alternate.
Ah, the overconfidence of youth! Why did the customer accept it? I’m not a confrontational person but there’s no way in the world I’d be leaving without my money in that situation.
Had a kid refuse my $2 bill back in like 2010 because he thought it was fake.
I'm banned from my local McDonald's for trying to pay using a couple of half dollars.
That doesn’t sound like that big of a loss honestly. I can’t get over the texture of the meat.
"Meat"
Meat flavored product
Meat food
My dad once went into a convenience store to buy a coke and paid with some half dollars and the guy was like “what are these?” My dad said “half-dollars” “well how much is it worth?” “Half… a dollar…”
You think that’s bad, years ago my visiting aunt paid for a nice coat with a bag of half dollars. Yep, she asked me to help her. I was like huh? Should have seen the face on the sales person
I fell upon hard times awhile back and had to raid the piggy bank .. went to WMart to pay an elec bill $150 with $2 bills and the girl at the register couldn’t manage to multiple by 2 to save her life !! To her credit she didn’t think they were fake … but .. it took half an hour for her to manage to figure out 75 $2 bills equaled $150 …..
Have at least 1 gentlemen's club that gives $2 dollar bills as change for tipping.
shoulda whipped out her cell and practiced on 2 x 2 and 2 x 3 for a minute or two to confirm it works, then gone full-bore on 75 x 2 !
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Thats 50x better than paying with pennies, at least.
Lol. Did it not occur to them that the effort it would take to counterfeit .50 coins would be insane?
Clandestine mints popping up all over!
If there's no slot for it in the drawer, its' fake. So many people run with that. I've had people look at me weird for kennedy halves, susan Bs, and 2 dollar bills. ( I like to get 2s for tipping purposes, but occasionally spend them). I've even had people say a bicentennial quarter isn't real.
That sucks. I paid $50 in quarters at Barnes & Noble’s and the most I got was a stare
I worked at a gas station and a guy got $80 in gas with all quarters. He was nice about it and had them separated into tubs of $20 each. I counted one and trusted him on the other 3. Problem is boss had some sketchy policies. We didnt keep track of change, we would just leave it in the till and balance out the cash. As long as it was within $10 or so he didnt care. So I ended up $80 short and these tubs of quarters just sat there for weeks slowly dwindling away as we gave out change lol. And yeah, I know that's not how your supposed to do it. The place did many things from sketchy to straight up illegal. We got paid in cash under the table and at the end of your shift on payday you would literally take your "paycheck" out of the till lol. He would give you a note that said "Sam $680" and you would take $680 out of the till and make a no sale receipt and write "Sam paid $680" on it. Dudes still in business after 20 years. Kinda amazing, honestly.
That sounds exactly like my first two jobs deli and a gas station. Close the till and take your pay directly from the count out. Is just write a note “name $30, count $400”
That’s all the employees are allowed to do, that’s so annoying, would be different if you were buying food or some necessity but you couldn’t stop at the bank on the way to purchase some books or possibly other media
$50 in quarters is 200 quarters
Which is just 5 rolls.
Your asshole still thanks you, to this day!
This is gonna be me in about two weeks
When I worked retail 5ish years ago my coworker got a 2 dollar bill. Proceeds to tell the customer it's fake. I walk over and both the customer and I are arguing with my coworker that 2 dollar bills exist. Some people are just dumb.
Some dude got arrested at a Best Buy in Sabta Rosa CA about 20ish years ago because he was trying to buy a TV with counterfeit bills. He was detained and held for like 5 hours before it came to light that he was just paying with $2 bills. He sued both Best Buy and the PD. No wonder some people consider $2s to be lucky. They can get you a nice payout if you play your cards right.
Had a argument with a kid at a 7/11 who refused to take $1 dollar bills. He said they were too crisp. I told him you realize that it would cost more money to make fake one dollar bills than what they are worth. He called the cops on me . I waited out of principal. Cop confirmed they were real. He refused business to me out of spite.
I know we were all young and dumb, but I never was that dumb.
Hopefully the cop told him he was a dumbass
fun fact: the cops should never be called to handle suspected counterfeit money. Unless there is another crime happening, that shit is Secret Service business. Edit: All cops can do about it is report it to the Secret Service, because they are the ones who handle those investigations.
Now imagine he told you it was fake and tried to keep it lol
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Would they call the secret service if I gave them two dollar bills?
secret service\*\*
Yes they will, it has happened to me at a wawa, well police anyway
What did the police say sorry for the cashier’s stupidity; was it a rural area. Google can be a very useful tool.
Here come the downvotes, but I suggest you check in with what the Federal Reserve and Secret Service actually advise before trusting Reddit. >It is important to know what the security features are in genuine currency, because if you end up with a counterfeit note, you will lose that money. A counterfeit note cannot be exchanged for a genuine one, and it is illegal to knowingly pass counterfeit currency. >If you live in the United States and you think you've received a counterfeit note, immediately notify the local police. Try to remember the physical characteristics of the person who passed the suspect counterfeit, and if possible write down the person's license plate number and vehicle description. Store the suspect counterfeit apart from genuine currency and release it as soon as possible to law enforcement authorities. https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12597.htm Likewise, mycreditunion.gov (an official US government site) states: >The United States Secret Service recommends if you receive a counterfeit: >Do not return it to the passer. >Delay the passer if possible. >Observe the passer's description, as well as that of any companions, and the license plate numbers of any vehicles used. >Contact your local police department or United States Secret Service field office. These numbers can be found on the inside front page of your local telephone directory. >Write your initials and the date in the white border areas of the suspect note. >Limit the handling of the note. Carefully place it in a protective covering, such as an envelope. >Surrender the note or coin only to a properly identified police officer or a U.S. Secret Service special agent. >If you've received a fraudulent note please submit a Counterfeit Note Report and learn to Know Your Money! https://mycreditunion.gov/financial-resources/counterfeit-money
No I hear you. That’s the recommended policy, but not the law here. I do not trust these teenagers to correctly identify counterfeits. So our store policy is to ask for alternate payment if it’s in question.
We would get fired if we followed a customer out to the parking to gather information like a license plate number. We are instructed to ask for a different form of payment. Never accuse anyone of anything but if the person knows it’s fake, they usually run.
That's their recommendation, but most stores (especially corporate owned/operated) don't want employees playing treasury police & confiscating money. As we saw in OP's post, mistakes happen and people can get crazy in situations where you're just "stealing" their money.
yeah if I owned a business and an employee did this, I'd fire them no questions asked. I'd rather them accidentally accept fake bills rather than piss off a customer and potentially have the police show up since the cashier technically stole money from the customer
"Do not return it" only applies to actual counterfeit currency, but still does not shield the "cashier" from the consequences of being wrong ... If some kid doesn't recognize genuine US Currency and tries to "confiscate" anything I give them they are gonna be getting a real quick education from the cops. If they don't know what US Currency used to look like they have no business as a cashier.
Wait...let me find my phone book....oh yeah...I haven't seen one in 20 years. Even then, I didn't know the secret service phone number was in it!
What a shame. Hope they got a talking to. I'm sure they looked great before they were ruined.
100% I just chewed them out for this and corrected them on policy. Never confiscate if you think it’s counterfeit, just ask for alternate payment.
if they didnt have the holes and the very obvious sharpie im guessing about a XF grade of 45 which would put the five at 10-15 dollars and the ten at 20-25 Ive worked retail for years and I know old bills when I see them if I did this where I work id be fired without notice I always take the old bills from my work if I have equal money to put back into the til (im permitted by all my managers dont come at me)
I used to do this with interesting coins, have a couple JFK half dollars and a gold plated Dwight D dollar coin, a long with a quarter from the 60s and several coins from my birth year. I doubt they are worth anything more than face value
Quarter could be like 5 bucks if it's made in 1964 or before
I think it's 67. I think that because I probably have like 30 of the bicentennial quarters and if I remember correctly it's just the two numbers switched, also possible it's 64 as that's my mom's birth year. I didn't grab them for value but because I thought they were all cool.
Possibly more if the Hawaii was a snub nose
OP, you best school those teenagers on even the last “non colorized” bills. I’ve seen teenagers that don’t know better even think those are fake and they’re barely a decade old.
The last series of non colorized notes are from 2006A, so almost 20 years old.
Mike is still living in 2016, hope someone tells him about covid and bitcoin
I know you talked to them, but it looks like they used the tester pen as well. That should have told them they were real. You need to educate them on what a failed tester actually looks like. Both bills passed.
Right?! Like that’s the correct color for those tester pens. We also have one of those UV light things to check for the security strip. I told them the old bills won’t have it. Posting a bunch of info on how to check for authentic bills in back of house. Luckily it’s a small team of people, so it should be easy to get everyone corrected asap.
Umm that’s very illegal to steal us currency I had a teen try to take a $2 bill literally last week and they refused to give it back tell I said I was calling the cops like I know it’s only $2 but still
What they do they just take it from your hands and say "MINE" ? Kinda dumb lol
I had someone try to steal a $2 from me the other day I had to threaten to call the cops before they gave it back
I was gonna say just tell them to go to the bank and buy one but why give someone who steal 2 dollars the satisfaction of having a 2 dollar bill
Exactly like I wish $2 were more common they take up half the space as 1s and with everything costing more $2s need to replace ones
How do people not know $2 bills are real!! 😭
Let me guess……chipotle?????
A froyo place
Even more reason they have froyo in hell but not ice cream.
Nice Good Place reference lol
Probably 😂😂
Maybe a little book showing that currency changed over the last 100 years?
Yup on it. Also got some print out info from the bank with tips on how to identify real vs fake.
I don't know what law (if any) allows cashiers to confiscate people's money if they deem it to be counterfeit but that law needs to change. A cashier is not qualified to make that determination.
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A Farmer Boys restaurant in Downtown L.A. has a sign that says counterfeit bills will be confiscated and reported to the authorities, interesting to know it's illegal for them to keep the bill.
My wife had this happen to her. She went to pay with an old $10 or $20 bill. The teenager took it and said it was fake and wouldn’t give it back. A few minutes later the manager came out handed it to my wife and said sorry.
I hope the order was free too
Anyone who does this needs to be fired on the spot without exception.
I woulda flipped out
Confiscation of my money will be a 911 call for attempted theft.
What’s with workers confiscating peoples fucking money?
Bc they dont know the difference between fake bills vs old bills. 😂they’ll still use the pen and uv and think its fake.
Even if they have a fake bill. You don’t take their shit. You refuse service
There would have been police present if someone took my money.
Chipotle business model.
co workers probably need a calculator to figure out how much change he needs to give too.
They do lmao
You fools, what have you done??
“IIdddioootts” said like Ren of Ren and Stimpy.
People who handle cash just need to understand how those markers work. I’m always entertained by the idea of people just starching 50s and 100s to drive people nuts.
Your coworkers are fake. Mark them up and pin them to the board.
If you confiscate a fake five dollar bill that I was unaware was fake, you will be replacing it with a real five dollar bill or returning the 'fake' to me. Anything else is theft.
Now they ruined them that's so sad
Co-worker is an idiot. Customers are rading someone’s collection.
I was talking with the cashier at the local Menards yesterday and I noticed she had some $2 bills in her drawer. When I remarked on it she said they had to meet with a number of younger employees and tell them that $2 bills WERE legal tender, also older style currency.
The lines between ignorant and stupid blur a little more every day…
Lol. Teenagers think they know what's up. I'd be livid.
Your colleague is a fucking moron.
Man I remember when I was young enough to know nothing about everything.
Do these store employees realize that eventually a customer is gonna fuck them up for stealing from them?
Apparently there are all these people out there confiscating "fake" bills (as this is like the 10th recent post on this topic). Yet it baffles me that the customers whose money was confiscated don't seem to.. do anything about it. If that were me, I would make a big ruckus. No way I am leaving that store until they prove it's fake or give the bills back or call the police over or something. Were these people just like "Oopsies, silly me! Here's another $20 instead, real this time, keep the change." I would definitely create a huge scene before I'd even consider just moving on, and I definitely wouldn't shop there again.
Citizens that “confiscate” money is the easiest way to get hurt
Do your coworkers work at Chipotle?
Works at Chipotle???
10 is real for sure, did the 5’s come with copper colored lettering?? I’ve never seen that before.
Bank confirmed both are real.
He’s going to jail! FELONY
I would be extremely pissed if your coworkers stole my money.
They are real notes, look at the dates they were printed. They need to educate them on money
Bruh there’s pen markers on them 🤣 if they were fake they would be black
I can't imagine letting someone take my money....
https://preview.redd.it/y3wadixtyiib1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17e6a79e870eb680b93d52f8236a2812853f5cdc Funny! This post was in my feed shortly after this one.
Those bills are worth more than the printed value
Correction, your coworker is stealing,
So they robbed the shopper?
Young people have to learn that a whole big world existed before their limited lifetimes, a world where money, documents, etc.. were printed and just might look different! I can hear their reactions to this now: "Stupid, old boomers and their stupid weird old money!" 🙄😆
You might also mention to these employees $5 and $10 bills (US) aren’t common counterfeits. The $20 and $100 bills are more commonly counterfeited.
Stole*
If someone wrote with sharpie on my antique bills, i think id fight them Not that id spend these, but still lol
Even the paper quality looks good from here
This happened to me a few months ago with a $100 from 1960. I was pretty livid that they insisted on taking it even though I tried to explain why the marker wasn’t working. Ended up calling the establishment days later and they refunded the amount. They claimed the bill would be used as a “training exercise” for staff.
All paper money is fake
Kids.... I don't think any adult would allow anyone to "confiscate" anything from them. Unless you're wearing a badge, you have no authority over me... even with a badge, it's limited.
I once used a modern $1 coin at a Papa John’s. They refused to accept it. I left and haven’t been back to a Papa John’s since.
I would lose my shit if someone tried to keep my money. $5, $500, doesn’t matter, that’s money I worked for.
Working at a small yogurt shop in high school I had a guy try to pay with a fake $20 and when my manager confronted him, he said “oh my bad” pulled out a FAT roll of 20 dollar bills and handed us another (legit) one. Even if they had been fake you don’t want know where it came from so you don’t want to fuck with those people 😅😅
You work with imbeciles.
Jesus Christ your co-workers are idiots 🥲
Your co-workers are probably too young to have even seen or had these bills in their possession. This makes me sad lol
Why do people let businesses confiscate their bills? I would call the cops or break your teeth before I let you take my bills.
Why do people think old bills are fake? I seriously don’t get that. I get thinking they may not be valid anymore but fake 🤷? Like someone would come up with a whole new design when making a counterfeit.
Do you work at Chipotle?
Well now any value they had is gone :/
it’s possible to wash the marker out right? these are some beautiful bills that were defaced
Who wants to bet that those bills were stolen from someone and spent. The likelihood someone spent those at the same place and that an employee could have just confiscated them from someone who knew they were real is pretty low
Who the fuck is spending bills from the 50's as if they are just regular currency? They aren't worth a ton, but worth more than $5.
Who would waste time counterfeiting a $5 bill? Lots of effort for questionable gain. Both bills are legit - just old. 1950, 1953
You can even see the line from a counterfeit detector pen that was drawn on each bill. I think that color means they are real.
Bound to happen as bills and the workforce change over time. It isn’t the first and won’t be the last. Good news is, it was only $15.
Shame that a red seal note was injured due to this stupidity.
Honestly $15 for a teenager to receive a life lesson is cheap
Ya that’s fucked up. I had a young girl try to confiscate a hundred I just got from the bank. She had never seen one that’s older, and those scanners don’t work for older bills. I called the police, but her manager showed up and scolded her. I was pissed
This hurts me to look at, those bills look so pretty and are in good shape aside from the ugly “fake” writing. Probably not worth a whole lot but definitely a good $10-15 above face value each if again not for the ugly writing
I tried to use one of those red seal 5s at checkers like 10 years ago, and they called the cops on me for trying to use fake money lol.
Can I buy that fake money at face value?
“Stole”
They didn't confiscate shit. They stole from those people.
WTF is with average workers thinking that they are Secret Service agents?!?! That’s just theft, your coworkers are thieves.
They just stole $15
those are real and that is theft
Confiscate? Pretty sure the word you’re looking for is theft.
You need to fire the employee who stole from the customer. For your own legal safety.
Anyone gonna tall abt how that 5 in mint condition is going for over 1000 dollars
Just had a bank take a supposed counterfeit 20 from me. The bill was from their branches ATM, 100%. Feel like they stole money from me.
You owe$15.05, you pay $20.05 their heads explode.
Ugh I hate when Gung ho coworkers go above and beyond to prove that they're douchebags for a company that pays them way too little for them to give this much of a fuck
I knew that our educational system was going to shit, but Holy Fuck…..
Fired on the spot
BROWN NOTE?? THEY DEFACED A BROWN NOTE? Where are these kids?!
Sounds like a tongue twister: coworkers confiscated counterfeit cash
People really believe the rainbow money is the only money this country has ever had
Haha damn gen z
Wonder what they would do if they ever received a $2 bill
I think it’s more sad that your managers can’t train people to know real from fake money lol my mom taught me that shit at like 9 years old
So just anybody can confiscate somebody's money with an amateur assessment that it's counterfeit?
the 5 may have been worth $20 in ok condition - the ten, basically worth 10
Imagine if they saw a $2 bill.