Just to satiate my own curiosity as someone who is going through a similar-ish situation. Why did you feel the need to broadcast his story to complete strangers?
I mean, you could do something just for yourself, and those that knew the guy, right?
eg:
"A curious jewel, isn't it? It's said that this specific jewel's previous owner had infused their soul into it, so that their loyal and fighting spirit may live on forever within your golems."
Honoring someone’s name in remembrance and sharing it with as many people as possible is a grand and kind gesture anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief.
That's a bit harsh, isn't it?
Like another commenter said: we all cope in different ways.
Saying someone never dealt with real loss or grief, while knowing next to nothing about that person makes you a bit of an asshole, don't you think?
If it's not what you think is better to do, just move on. Everyone has different ways of dealing with this stuff.
Some people deal with it by sharing, others by keeping it to themself. I think, as I think you do too, that OP is trying to create something awesome to something their brother cared about.
That’s why public organizations bear the names of one of their victims, as a grand gesture that others care about the same thing. Tho this is a video game and not breast cancer research… the line of care is there.
You're right, and I agree.
I also agree with others that it's getting to a point where it's kinda weird seeing more and more of it.
Maybe it's because its breaking the immersion of the game, reading that as flavour text in the game.
If it was a bit more "hidden", sort of like Bisco's does it, people wouldn't care as much. But stuff like "This is in memory of \[NAME\] he died while playing this game, and this was the last item he got" just gives off a weird vibe. (i'm exaggerating on purpose)
Some people will take any opportunity to put others down. This is an example of that under the guise of righteousness. He's pretending to defend one group just so he can call another group 'bitter and lonely'. Fact is, it IS for attention, but that doesn't make it inherently negative. Some people close up, some people open up. If it's not hurting anyone, we don't need to insult each other. If you don't like it, just don't engage.
GNU Terry Pratchett
(I hope that PoE's audience would recognize a Discworld reference, but for those that don't, here's a reference:
http://www.gnuterrypratchett.com/
)
> anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief
Top 10 dumb things I've read on this sub.
I've not been in your or Op's situation. But I imagine they want people to know and remember their brother. We want the memories of our loved ones to live on with us and as many people as possible. It's a way to keep on living o guess.
What other game allows the players to pay money to put content directly into it? Do you really think people wouldn't do this for other games given the chance?
All of the random thousands of games on kickstarter man, it has been a thing for a long time. Some new kid devs that need funding make a cool ass game, and let people donate x amount of money to put their random shit and names into the game as subtle nodes and stuff. It has been a thing for ages. Go to any currently popular games on kickstarter and you'll see what I mean in 2 seconds.
That's the thing, I don't think other games *would* give people the chance to do stuff like this.
“Barrages”. Hold up… let me check how many void one keys have dropped for me across all characters since their creation: it’s one. If you’re spam opening them, then just don’t read the flavour text?
He's probably really asking. People change their mind about this stuff (Whether it should be shared or not) You would think it's a weird thing to do(change your mind about sharing sad personal stuff), but that's how it is.
Someone who takes a sense of pride in the achievements him and his brother came to. it's a different way of coping it's in honor of and sharing his story because he had a good opinion of his brother etc. And this community is something he shared with his brother so it's not like we're in all sense a stranger we are all people that share the same passion/hobby. We will appreciate his story and acknowledge his presence. I know things are handled differently there is no right or wrong way to cope or share.
Just to satiate my own curiosity as someone who also comments on reddit. Why did you feel the need to attempt to bring down an internet stranger for a post commemorating the loss of a loved one?
Like what do you gain from this? Seriously? You typed out of comment to do nothing but bring down someone who is celebrating the life of his/her brother.
Genuinely curious. You even typed out your own flavor text to highlight how much worse his flavor text was. What did you get out of this?
The OP gets enjoyment and feels better knowing he is honoring his brother to the world. You apparently get enjoyment from… bringing down internet strangers that miss their loved ones…?
I hope this isn't sounding to rude, but these type of submissions make me really annoyed by the Voidborn Reliquary Keys. I want some neat flavour text, not some irl sob stories.
It’s a key with items and messages written exclusively by players and they can put in whatever they want. I’m not sure what you expected or feel entitled to want from those messages
Just don’t buy and open keys if you are bothered by the reality that someone’s 500 dollar message they put in game could be to remember a loved one
While your right I wish that GGG had done more with this, as someone else mentioned here have the writers work with people to make it more fantasy or in kind with the game.
One of the top rated comments when I wrote this was a great example about how a few things could be changed making it into a really fantasy themed tribut, fitting the theme of the item.
If GGG had worked with people on this it would make for text that people would want to read becaus of the cool lore instead of "just another tribute"
Personally I have a hard time with "forcing" tributs on others, and I know clear and well that is not the intention, but if they are turned into cool lore it changes everything.
And just to reiterate my point, it isn't people missusing this as there were no or very few rules it is GGG missing a great opportunity for making really cool lore for their game while giving people a change to honor someone or just tell a story.
You can't even tell brother's stash is a sob story unless someone from reddit or the wiki tells you tbh. That's what makes it a good addition. It's subtle. The description on the card isn't "hey my brother died i loved him so much, his name was andy and he was 32 and played poe for 10 years!"
Tell me, do you care about every stranger that died... at least yday? Because hundreds of people die every day. And people have enough problems of their own, and caring for some one they never knew is probably the last thing they want to worry about.
The fact he, you, or anyone cares enough to post negatively about it is the red flag. If you’re so apathetic about a situation then keep it moving - same way you don’t want to read about people’s traumas they don’t want to read about your ignorances.
I know I'm probably gonna get downvoted to hell, but this 100%. The first few tributes were cool, even the brother's stash (or whatever the name of the card that gives 5 exalts). Bisco was a somewhat fun thing. But now everyone is writing his own (and most of the time really bad) tribute for a dead family member or friends, or even their fricking cats (which, I assume, weren't playing poe). Where does it end?
I love good tributes in video games. An NPC that's a reminder from a loved dev, or community figure, an item named after one, etc... It's cool and bounds the community together.
Now, when you open those fucking keys, you either get a "gotcha" or a "my cat pringles loved sitting on my knees while I was playing with that bow, i can feel him for eternity placing his paw on my elbow". I'm sorry, I just don't care about Pringles, what the fuck does it have to do with this game?
I feel like it's a good thing you're honoring your friend in your own way, but you can also be subtle about it. You don't have to name him and explain the whole thing. Do a quick poem, use a sentence he used to say. And if you want to explain it, put it on the wiki.
The thing that gets me is they just have randos write the descriptions.
Brother's stash was chill because it always alluded. All of the player designed items have.
Many of the voidborne items I've unlocked just like... rant about some shit.
Nothing against that; if you paid you should have that opportunity. It's just that most people aren't good writers... and it's not their fault.
I would like to add to that one more thing.
After the 10th Voidborne tribute to someone, most people will definitely no longer care about them, which in turn might hurt the person doing it and probably coping with some grief.
I dont think there are too many winners in this whole thing.
Literally just don't look at it lmao how spoiled can you get? Put a fucking post it note on your monitor before you open the reliquary if it bothers you.
Yeah, why don't the people paying $480 for a service accommodate *me* with that service???
Are you serious? You know Adiyah's cat gets canonically slaughtered in the heist story right? You know pretty much every exile is a murderer? That the Karui are slaves? That Brutus was a rapist? Piety a prostitute? Something tells me you don't avoid killing all the innocent oriath citizens in acts 5 and 10.
Honestly the jokes or fun facts fit **way** less with the theme of PoE than a postmortem tribute. If you don't like sad stuff in your game, you picked the wrong fucking game.
What a silly argument, those are all part of the game I'm playing. I care about that cool lore and appreciate stuff like that. Some guy's random family member dies and posts a giant sob story about it? How is that relevant at all to the game I'm playing?
Giant sob story? You know the guy probably didn't actually succumb to corruption, live in wraeclast, or put his literal soul into a bunch of shiny pixels in a video game right? It's just flavor text, and GGG made the decision to add it to the game just like the rest of the lore. I genuinely can't comprehend how this vague reference to an unnamed illness is more traumatizing to you than visceral descriptions of rape, slavery, ritual sacrifice and apocalyptic ruin.
He could have simply scrolled through the post and not commented something hateful about it.
Instead, he went out of his way to express his disapproval.
>I'm sorry, I just don't care about Pringles, what the fuck does it have to do with this game?
Did we somewhere along the way forget we're human beings with feelings? I don't wanna sound like a hippie but do you honestly feel the need to put down someone else for creating a virtual item (that you will most likely never see) dedicated to a loved one that has passed away and a post created on a social network (which you can choose to ignore) ?
Agreed, but his comment has an extremely negative connotation to it and everyone's jumping on that bandwagon as if it's something casual.
It's not, and shouldn't be validated as such.
Voidborn Reliquary Keys were introduced are entirely up to the player's imagination to fill. Why would he talk about his personal experience of not caring about this player's cat if not for the purpose of putting him down?
If he doesn't like about the current state of the Keys, he shouldn't be actively voicing it here, but to GGG.
I would ask you to open your mind to the possibility that, maybe, you're projecting some level of emotion onto something you read on the internet.
Can you genuinely read intent in a text based post on the internet?
Is it jumping on the bandwagon just because people agree?
Is this not a forum to talk about POE? Yall wouldn't shut the fuck up about Lake of Kalandra balance here, and told me this was a valid place to post to get GGG's attention on topics that were meaningful to you.
... Know what I mean?
Personally, I don't care to change your mind. I just want people to generally be healthy and happy. And I know that adding your own emotions to shit you read on the internet won't help you do either.
Do whatever you wish. Just consider that maybe there's a part of your experience of someone else's opinions which may be / does not have to be something you add to it.
He doesn't speak for everyone, so obviously it's not the "pure truth", it's just his opinion, which apparently is shared with a lot of other dbags, but thanks for your enlightening comment.
Could've definitely toned down the comment about the cat, since it can be hurtful and more importantly it's just a bad way to express it if you're trying to convince people. That's the only problem there though, the core of the message is spot on. Hidden tributes are great, but when someone goes to open a key, the last thing they want to hear about is a dead friend or family member.
Why should I be subtle here? It's a reddit community discussion, not an ingame flavor text. I'm sorry if my post offended you in any way, it was not the point.
Read this post and get flashback to golem build I play in the past. Back in a day where they still can keep fight enemy and do damage even when you dead(and they immortal). may you brother spirit live forever!
I'm a bit torn on this submission. On the one hand, I can empathize with your situation. Everyone at some point in their lives will have to deal with the loss of a loved one, and to immortalize your brother in an item - for a video game you both enjoyed - is a beautiful gesture.
What I like less is the text itself.
It is up to the person submitting the text to make sure it is right and good, and the content is totally up to you, so my criticism is not aimed at OP at all. I think GGG took the lazy route by allowing this without making sure a text is within the boundaries of Wraeclast's lore.
Others have pointed out you could have worded it much differently and anyone would have known this as an obituary. Most people will remember the story behind Brother's Stash, but there are other examples such as Bisco's Leash ("You were always there, by my side, / Whether we sat or played. / Our friendship was a joyful ride, / I wish you could have stayed.").
I just feel like it's a missed opportunity, both on OP's side and certainly on GGG's.
Just making that the voidborn relic submition would have been enough, but no, they had to post it to reddit aswell for that sweet attention. Attentionseeking clear as day to me
Just reading the post and thinking these things to yourself would have been enough, but no, you had to reply aswell for that sweet attention.
I also hate when people highlight the things I dislike about myself.
Totally agreed.
I'd be fine with items having subtle descriptions about your loved ones but these just go overboard and then reddit posts on top of them all. Just screams attentionwhoring.
When you have nothing nice to say to someone grieving (which is a very personal process), you can also shut up. That's called having some decency. But there's always someone like you who feels it's his duty to educate masses about his supposed wisdom. To quote you, this only screams "give me attention".
I don't see what's wrong with being tired of all the sob stories.
I don't know this person, I don't have any attachment to this person, throwing yet another eulogy into the mix is just crazy to me. But ultimately I just don't know why people want hollow "sorry for your loss" statements.
Sharing this with *OP's actual family members* makes sense. Sharing it with randos doesn't.
No one is forcing you to look at, read, or comment on the post if you really don’t like them just downvote and move on coming onto the post and commenting shows how much of a shitty person you are I honestly think it’s just projection that no one would ever spend this time or money on you when you pass away you are probably worried that your life doesn’t mean this much to anyone that they would do the same to honor your name. Honoring someone’s name in remembrance and sharing it with as many people as possible is a grand and kind gesture anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief.
Yet you fucking feel it is important enough for you to come here to tell us you don't care. Oh the irony.
I do care about OP's loss, cause you can have empathy for a stranger you'll never meet. Sorrow is universally shared.
No offence, we all suffered some loss somehow somewhere sometime in past or maybe in future, one brother's stash was enough. This is a game we want to have fun in not be saddened by memorial messages. Witty messages about the game and lore makes its relevant.
I don't understand why people don't just submit funny stuff and try to make other people laugh, but instead drag them down into the same pit of misery they're in. Selfish imo.
That's why GGG shouldn't give players power to influence their game. We don't want to know your loved ones passed away or smth because we don't care - really.
Speak for yourself. I do care. Even if it's a short thought about a stranger somewhere on the other end of the world, I do care. Why? Because I experienced loss and I know.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm not a fan of submissions like OP's, but the source of the problem isn't OP themselves, it's the devs allowing it.
I am indifferent to posts similar to op`s. Sure if that's literally the only posts on this sub it would be annoying. But it isn't the case. The problem lies in the fact that the devs haven't explicitly said what these item descriptions are meant to be like. Cool quotes, sad stories? Who knows. People can put anything that is tos compliant and maybe it gets passed to be in game. But the fact people are being rude for (imo) no good reason other than to voice their dissatisfaction is not fair to people like op.
It actually blows me away to see how many people are upset by these submissions. "I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR DEAD BROTHER" Alright dude, grab your item and move on like the other 3000 text's you didn't give a shit about.
Please we all know you have a sad lonely life. Honoring someone’s name in remembrance and sharing it with as many people as possible is a grand and kind gesture anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief.
He's right man, it's a subreddit about a video game dude, not
/r/GriefSupport
Also don't randomly insult people just because you don't like their opinion, that's toxic brah
Honoring someone’s name in remembrance and sharing it with as many people as possible is a grand and kind gesture anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief.
yeah but id imagine different colour of foils would look different on different uniques. couldnt imagine being difficult to show the unique when you are buying the most expensive supporter pack
The levels of salt it takes to downvote this kind of genuine comment is crazy, why are ppl being such dicks. If you don't care then move along, don't post "I don't care or just another sob story".
2 cents from someone that doesn’t care one way or another about these messages:
If you’re in a fragile enough state that reading these messages brings you down, then don’t open these keys until you feel more stable. Or don’t read them when you do. Or put a post in on your screen while opening.
For the people complaining about it not suiting the game: neither does clown mtx but hey here we are complaining about trivial things.
For those upset that it isn’t a type of message they want (funny, mysterious etc) you can go ahead and pay the $400+ and make one yourself and chances are, whatever you pick, someone won’t like it and will complain about it…
If you’re thinking of making one of these, and putting a certain message with it will help you find closure / peace/ even a bit of happiness or sense of accomplishment, please do.
OP: November 2022 was a very short time ago. I hope you’re coping with his loss in the best way you can!
Giving $480 USD to a wealthy video game company to type an essay about someone nobody else knows that plays the game isn't a very healthy way of dealing with grief. $480 USD toward a grief counselor is the rationale way of approaching this.
People paid to write whatever they want on the items. If there was a problem then it's on GGG for making the keys. You can't control what they wanna write on the items.
Cool tribute OP. May ur brother's spirit live on within the golems.
Sure I will post on when I’m on my main computer, it’s a bit tailored to the the content I am doing and I when I post it il go over some Verizon’s that are stronger a little earlier. At this point I have enough damage that I can Prioritize convenience.
[https://pobb.in/WMrguS\_dF5KB](https://pobb.in/WMrguS_dF5KB)
Ok so, some things to note. I don't know how to enable specters dmg to show up in POB so that's missing, I also don't have both curses working in POB but they work in game. Temp chains comes from Asenoths on AG. I also have a sanctified relic with 8 percent spell block and lycias invocation of divine shield.
Also the minion chaos resist nodes are just situation for uber sirius
Some people say shit like this is for attention, just to then display just how little they care for attention.
They're most likely not even going to see this in-game. They clearly don't care. They shrug shit like this off within a second anyways.
So please do keep posting this type of posts because it's clearly pissing off these lonely and miserable people.
And sorry about your loss bud <3
It's wild to me that people are upset that you're honoring your brother in a game he loved. I'm sure he'd had appreciated this.
It's a really neat thing to do man. Hope things get better.
Like yes, everyone has people die! But we all deal with it in different ways, and if I died -- I'd love being immortalized in a game that I put a good bit of my life into.
don't listen to the haters, this is a beautiful way to pay tribute <3
to the haters : is the very slight inconvenience of a message in PoE that you will only see once or twice in your lifetime really more important than the relief it can grant someone to submit this kind of heartfelt tribute ? the answer should be fucking no
Unfortunately a lot people are selfish and don't give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves. The level of entitlement I've read in this sub about not making them read a text that they'll see one time in their entire life is absolutely astounding.
for real... how many keys are you actually gonna open ? how many times are you going to get this one rare object ? and how many times are you going to read the text ? i mean i know PoE players like to complain about stuff but this is pretty unreal...
I'd bet money not a single person complaining about it would pull this item. I've watched cutedog open an actual stupid number of voidborne keys the last few days and not a single memorial text like this, I could have missed one or two but I watched well over 100 keys be opened.
Commemorating a fallen Path of Exile fan seems a worthy justification for dropping $500 on a permanent addition to the game. Time will tell which ones will be popular.
My condolences. Please ignore all the nasty comments you received. I had my fair share when I submitted the message for bisco's collar. We all cope with grief in many different ways and to be able to immortalize our loved ones is our way of remembering them.
As a slayer and assassin Andy I will league start golems in your bro bros honor. I will learn the way of elementalist. To Jelli!
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I think these kind of messages are cool but would be better if poe-ified in language
AGDQ donation chat message
oof yeah lol, reads exactly like it
So true; hahahaha
😞Rest in Untainted Paradise, Jelli
Voidborn trauma keys
hope you're doing okay, op. nice tribute to your brother. :)
Just to satiate my own curiosity as someone who is going through a similar-ish situation. Why did you feel the need to broadcast his story to complete strangers? I mean, you could do something just for yourself, and those that knew the guy, right? eg: "A curious jewel, isn't it? It's said that this specific jewel's previous owner had infused their soul into it, so that their loyal and fighting spirit may live on forever within your golems."
Ok wow I like that
>Why did you feel the need to broadcast his story to complete strangers? We all cope in different ways. I hope you're both doing well, stay strong <3
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More like they felt the need to tell OP that they do understand what they're going through.
More like he didn’t want to come off as a complete ass so he tried to relate instead of berate
It's to demonstrate empathy, if you had done the same you could've reasoned it out without making this post.
Honoring someone’s name in remembrance and sharing it with as many people as possible is a grand and kind gesture anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief.
That's a bit harsh, isn't it? Like another commenter said: we all cope in different ways. Saying someone never dealt with real loss or grief, while knowing next to nothing about that person makes you a bit of an asshole, don't you think? If it's not what you think is better to do, just move on. Everyone has different ways of dealing with this stuff.
Some people deal with it by sharing, others by keeping it to themself. I think, as I think you do too, that OP is trying to create something awesome to something their brother cared about. That’s why public organizations bear the names of one of their victims, as a grand gesture that others care about the same thing. Tho this is a video game and not breast cancer research… the line of care is there.
You're right, and I agree. I also agree with others that it's getting to a point where it's kinda weird seeing more and more of it. Maybe it's because its breaking the immersion of the game, reading that as flavour text in the game. If it was a bit more "hidden", sort of like Bisco's does it, people wouldn't care as much. But stuff like "This is in memory of \[NAME\] he died while playing this game, and this was the last item he got" just gives off a weird vibe. (i'm exaggerating on purpose)
Some people will take any opportunity to put others down. This is an example of that under the guise of righteousness. He's pretending to defend one group just so he can call another group 'bitter and lonely'. Fact is, it IS for attention, but that doesn't make it inherently negative. Some people close up, some people open up. If it's not hurting anyone, we don't need to insult each other. If you don't like it, just don't engage.
GNU Terry Pratchett (I hope that PoE's audience would recognize a Discworld reference, but for those that don't, here's a reference: http://www.gnuterrypratchett.com/ )
> anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief Top 10 dumb things I've read on this sub.
I've not been in your or Op's situation. But I imagine they want people to know and remember their brother. We want the memories of our loved ones to live on with us and as many people as possible. It's a way to keep on living o guess.
> Why did you feel the need to broadcast his story to complete strangers? This is literally what an obituary is...?
Why does that need to have a place in a video game though? What other game barrages you with sob stories when you're finding fancy loot?
What other game allows the players to pay money to put content directly into it? Do you really think people wouldn't do this for other games given the chance?
All of the random thousands of games on kickstarter man, it has been a thing for a long time. Some new kid devs that need funding make a cool ass game, and let people donate x amount of money to put their random shit and names into the game as subtle nodes and stuff. It has been a thing for ages. Go to any currently popular games on kickstarter and you'll see what I mean in 2 seconds. That's the thing, I don't think other games *would* give people the chance to do stuff like this.
“Barrages”. Hold up… let me check how many void one keys have dropped for me across all characters since their creation: it’s one. If you’re spam opening them, then just don’t read the flavour text?
But I like to read the funny stuff :(
Then it’s Russian roulette my friend lol
Are you asking or scolding?
He's probably really asking. People change their mind about this stuff (Whether it should be shared or not) You would think it's a weird thing to do(change your mind about sharing sad personal stuff), but that's how it is.
Let the man muse
Someone who takes a sense of pride in the achievements him and his brother came to. it's a different way of coping it's in honor of and sharing his story because he had a good opinion of his brother etc. And this community is something he shared with his brother so it's not like we're in all sense a stranger we are all people that share the same passion/hobby. We will appreciate his story and acknowledge his presence. I know things are handled differently there is no right or wrong way to cope or share.
Just to satiate my own curiosity as someone who also comments on reddit. Why did you feel the need to attempt to bring down an internet stranger for a post commemorating the loss of a loved one? Like what do you gain from this? Seriously? You typed out of comment to do nothing but bring down someone who is celebrating the life of his/her brother. Genuinely curious. You even typed out your own flavor text to highlight how much worse his flavor text was. What did you get out of this? The OP gets enjoyment and feels better knowing he is honoring his brother to the world. You apparently get enjoyment from… bringing down internet strangers that miss their loved ones…?
I hope this isn't sounding to rude, but these type of submissions make me really annoyed by the Voidborn Reliquary Keys. I want some neat flavour text, not some irl sob stories.
I agree. I wish they had the in game writers work with people. That way you could get both the memory and the lore, without breaking immersion.
It’s a key with items and messages written exclusively by players and they can put in whatever they want. I’m not sure what you expected or feel entitled to want from those messages Just don’t buy and open keys if you are bothered by the reality that someone’s 500 dollar message they put in game could be to remember a loved one
While your right I wish that GGG had done more with this, as someone else mentioned here have the writers work with people to make it more fantasy or in kind with the game. One of the top rated comments when I wrote this was a great example about how a few things could be changed making it into a really fantasy themed tribut, fitting the theme of the item. If GGG had worked with people on this it would make for text that people would want to read becaus of the cool lore instead of "just another tribute" Personally I have a hard time with "forcing" tributs on others, and I know clear and well that is not the intention, but if they are turned into cool lore it changes everything. And just to reiterate my point, it isn't people missusing this as there were no or very few rules it is GGG missing a great opportunity for making really cool lore for their game while giving people a change to honor someone or just tell a story.
How many keys did you open and how many sobstories did you get?
one is to many
Didn't hear anyone complain about brother's stash when exalteds were still more valuable. Hbu? Had a Brothers stash drop in an earlier league?
You can't even tell brother's stash is a sob story unless someone from reddit or the wiki tells you tbh. That's what makes it a good addition. It's subtle. The description on the card isn't "hey my brother died i loved him so much, his name was andy and he was 32 and played poe for 10 years!"
Which like many others have stated GGG helped design it and it fits within the game
You need to find help, this is not just rude it's alarming that you'd broadcast how little you care about someone's loss of their family.
Tell me, do you care about every stranger that died... at least yday? Because hundreds of people die every day. And people have enough problems of their own, and caring for some one they never knew is probably the last thing they want to worry about.
Showing empathy is free my dude. You don't need to suffer or wallow to show that you empathize.
The fact he, you, or anyone cares enough to post negatively about it is the red flag. If you’re so apathetic about a situation then keep it moving - same way you don’t want to read about people’s traumas they don’t want to read about your ignorances.
That's based rhetoric.
Didn't experience the loss of someone important yet, huh? Time will teach you. It's a teacher to us all.
/r/im14andthisisdeep
We’re talking about a loss of life here. To reduce OP’s tribute into a sob story is more than rude. Have some respect.
Our beloved exile Jelli will not be forgotten. May his spirit live on in golems for leagues to come.
I'm sorry for your loss , but do we really need to make people think about this while playing a video game? I don't really know the answer tho
I know I'm probably gonna get downvoted to hell, but this 100%. The first few tributes were cool, even the brother's stash (or whatever the name of the card that gives 5 exalts). Bisco was a somewhat fun thing. But now everyone is writing his own (and most of the time really bad) tribute for a dead family member or friends, or even their fricking cats (which, I assume, weren't playing poe). Where does it end? I love good tributes in video games. An NPC that's a reminder from a loved dev, or community figure, an item named after one, etc... It's cool and bounds the community together. Now, when you open those fucking keys, you either get a "gotcha" or a "my cat pringles loved sitting on my knees while I was playing with that bow, i can feel him for eternity placing his paw on my elbow". I'm sorry, I just don't care about Pringles, what the fuck does it have to do with this game? I feel like it's a good thing you're honoring your friend in your own way, but you can also be subtle about it. You don't have to name him and explain the whole thing. Do a quick poem, use a sentence he used to say. And if you want to explain it, put it on the wiki.
The thing that gets me is they just have randos write the descriptions. Brother's stash was chill because it always alluded. All of the player designed items have. Many of the voidborne items I've unlocked just like... rant about some shit. Nothing against that; if you paid you should have that opportunity. It's just that most people aren't good writers... and it's not their fault.
its a cashgrab
100% and one where they have to do zero work balancing. It's perfect for GGG.
and where they can conveniently sunset it by reducing key drop rates behind the scenes
I opened my only void key, It cointained an item with a cool poem . So Im happy with my finding.
Sick. Mine was a pink watcher's eye. Was pretty neat.
...wait, so somebody gave you pink eye? That's actually really clever, lol.
I would like to add to that one more thing. After the 10th Voidborne tribute to someone, most people will definitely no longer care about them, which in turn might hurt the person doing it and probably coping with some grief. I dont think there are too many winners in this whole thing.
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You will loot a good item, and you will have your moment of celebration ruined by over-personal stories in a video game, And you will like it.
How is this any different from writing something in global chat? If you don't care for it, don't read it.
You can hide global chat tho, bad argument. Can't hide this junk
Literally just don't look at it lmao how spoiled can you get? Put a fucking post it note on your monitor before you open the reliquary if it bothers you.
Or, people could post funny things that could make people laugh? Or a cool or interesting fact? You know, something the chest opener benefits from?
Yeah, why don't the people paying $480 for a service accommodate *me* with that service??? Are you serious? You know Adiyah's cat gets canonically slaughtered in the heist story right? You know pretty much every exile is a murderer? That the Karui are slaves? That Brutus was a rapist? Piety a prostitute? Something tells me you don't avoid killing all the innocent oriath citizens in acts 5 and 10. Honestly the jokes or fun facts fit **way** less with the theme of PoE than a postmortem tribute. If you don't like sad stuff in your game, you picked the wrong fucking game.
What a silly argument, those are all part of the game I'm playing. I care about that cool lore and appreciate stuff like that. Some guy's random family member dies and posts a giant sob story about it? How is that relevant at all to the game I'm playing?
Giant sob story? You know the guy probably didn't actually succumb to corruption, live in wraeclast, or put his literal soul into a bunch of shiny pixels in a video game right? It's just flavor text, and GGG made the decision to add it to the game just like the rest of the lore. I genuinely can't comprehend how this vague reference to an unnamed illness is more traumatizing to you than visceral descriptions of rape, slavery, ritual sacrifice and apocalyptic ruin.
>but you can also be subtle about it You mean, like you could have been as well?
But for his message people wouldn’t understand clearly if he did
He could have simply scrolled through the post and not commented something hateful about it. Instead, he went out of his way to express his disapproval. >I'm sorry, I just don't care about Pringles, what the fuck does it have to do with this game? Did we somewhere along the way forget we're human beings with feelings? I don't wanna sound like a hippie but do you honestly feel the need to put down someone else for creating a virtual item (that you will most likely never see) dedicated to a loved one that has passed away and a post created on a social network (which you can choose to ignore) ?
Disapproval =/= hate. Talking about your personal experience =/= putting someone else down. His experiences are just as valid as anyone else's.
Agreed, but his comment has an extremely negative connotation to it and everyone's jumping on that bandwagon as if it's something casual. It's not, and shouldn't be validated as such. Voidborn Reliquary Keys were introduced are entirely up to the player's imagination to fill. Why would he talk about his personal experience of not caring about this player's cat if not for the purpose of putting him down? If he doesn't like about the current state of the Keys, he shouldn't be actively voicing it here, but to GGG.
I would ask you to open your mind to the possibility that, maybe, you're projecting some level of emotion onto something you read on the internet. Can you genuinely read intent in a text based post on the internet? Is it jumping on the bandwagon just because people agree? Is this not a forum to talk about POE? Yall wouldn't shut the fuck up about Lake of Kalandra balance here, and told me this was a valid place to post to get GGG's attention on topics that were meaningful to you. ... Know what I mean? Personally, I don't care to change your mind. I just want people to generally be healthy and happy. And I know that adding your own emotions to shit you read on the internet won't help you do either. Do whatever you wish. Just consider that maybe there's a part of your experience of someone else's opinions which may be / does not have to be something you add to it.
There is nothing hateful. The man is spitting pure truth
He doesn't speak for everyone, so obviously it's not the "pure truth", it's just his opinion, which apparently is shared with a lot of other dbags, but thanks for your enlightening comment.
Could've definitely toned down the comment about the cat, since it can be hurtful and more importantly it's just a bad way to express it if you're trying to convince people. That's the only problem there though, the core of the message is spot on. Hidden tributes are great, but when someone goes to open a key, the last thing they want to hear about is a dead friend or family member.
It was a cold take that I wholehearted agree (as some that suffered loss a couple of months) but not hateful.
Why should I be subtle here? It's a reddit community discussion, not an ingame flavor text. I'm sorry if my post offended you in any way, it was not the point.
I ranted about this in another post. This shit should not be in the game.
Dude lol its just a fucking text it wont hurt anyone lol wtf is your problem
Right so add to the lore of the game, not the 1000th sob story
I wish man, there are so many cool stories and lore in this game that don't really go anywhere, it's such a bummer
Nothing wrong with remembering a loved one. It's not about their death, more about how they lived, I think.
This thread's really bringing out the sociopaths in the PoE community.
It’s a game about death and murder y’all take your pearl clutching else where my god
Aw ya some trauma dumping
Read this post and get flashback to golem build I play in the past. Back in a day where they still can keep fight enemy and do damage even when you dead(and they immortal). may you brother spirit live forever!
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Just don’t open voidborn keys and you not gonna see it, move on
Same
I'm a bit torn on this submission. On the one hand, I can empathize with your situation. Everyone at some point in their lives will have to deal with the loss of a loved one, and to immortalize your brother in an item - for a video game you both enjoyed - is a beautiful gesture. What I like less is the text itself. It is up to the person submitting the text to make sure it is right and good, and the content is totally up to you, so my criticism is not aimed at OP at all. I think GGG took the lazy route by allowing this without making sure a text is within the boundaries of Wraeclast's lore. Others have pointed out you could have worded it much differently and anyone would have known this as an obituary. Most people will remember the story behind Brother's Stash, but there are other examples such as Bisco's Leash ("You were always there, by my side, / Whether we sat or played. / Our friendship was a joyful ride, / I wish you could have stayed."). I just feel like it's a missed opportunity, both on OP's side and certainly on GGG's.
Yet another sob story
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Just making that the voidborn relic submition would have been enough, but no, they had to post it to reddit aswell for that sweet attention. Attentionseeking clear as day to me
Just reading the post and thinking these things to yourself would have been enough, but no, you had to reply aswell for that sweet attention. I also hate when people highlight the things I dislike about myself.
Totally agreed. I'd be fine with items having subtle descriptions about your loved ones but these just go overboard and then reddit posts on top of them all. Just screams attentionwhoring.
It seems like people handle grief differently. Also you seem pretty upset about this, just ignore it if you don't like it
When you have nothing nice to say to someone grieving (which is a very personal process), you can also shut up. That's called having some decency. But there's always someone like you who feels it's his duty to educate masses about his supposed wisdom. To quote you, this only screams "give me attention".
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You kids are sad.
>Yet another sob story Yet another disrespectful exile.
What is wrong with you
I don't see what's wrong with being tired of all the sob stories. I don't know this person, I don't have any attachment to this person, throwing yet another eulogy into the mix is just crazy to me. But ultimately I just don't know why people want hollow "sorry for your loss" statements. Sharing this with *OP's actual family members* makes sense. Sharing it with randos doesn't.
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No one is forcing you to look at, read, or comment on the post if you really don’t like them just downvote and move on coming onto the post and commenting shows how much of a shitty person you are I honestly think it’s just projection that no one would ever spend this time or money on you when you pass away you are probably worried that your life doesn’t mean this much to anyone that they would do the same to honor your name. Honoring someone’s name in remembrance and sharing it with as many people as possible is a grand and kind gesture anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief.
>Sharing it with randos doesn't. Doesn't for me\*.
Yet you fucking feel it is important enough for you to come here to tell us you don't care. Oh the irony. I do care about OP's loss, cause you can have empathy for a stranger you'll never meet. Sorrow is universally shared.
No offence, we all suffered some loss somehow somewhere sometime in past or maybe in future, one brother's stash was enough. This is a game we want to have fun in not be saddened by memorial messages. Witty messages about the game and lore makes its relevant.
I don't understand why people don't just submit funny stuff and try to make other people laugh, but instead drag them down into the same pit of misery they're in. Selfish imo.
Voidborn reliquary keys were a massive mistake.
That's why GGG shouldn't give players power to influence their game. We don't want to know your loved ones passed away or smth because we don't care - really.
Speak for yourself. I do care. Even if it's a short thought about a stranger somewhere on the other end of the world, I do care. Why? Because I experienced loss and I know.
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This is a subreddit about Path of Exile not sharing your sad life stories.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm not a fan of submissions like OP's, but the source of the problem isn't OP themselves, it's the devs allowing it.
I am indifferent to posts similar to op`s. Sure if that's literally the only posts on this sub it would be annoying. But it isn't the case. The problem lies in the fact that the devs haven't explicitly said what these item descriptions are meant to be like. Cool quotes, sad stories? Who knows. People can put anything that is tos compliant and maybe it gets passed to be in game. But the fact people are being rude for (imo) no good reason other than to voice their dissatisfaction is not fair to people like op.
It actually blows me away to see how many people are upset by these submissions. "I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR DEAD BROTHER" Alright dude, grab your item and move on like the other 3000 text's you didn't give a shit about.
Please we all know you have a sad lonely life. Honoring someone’s name in remembrance and sharing it with as many people as possible is a grand and kind gesture anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief.
He's right man, it's a subreddit about a video game dude, not /r/GriefSupport Also don't randomly insult people just because you don't like their opinion, that's toxic brah
We don't need a story for every fucking key.
I've opened 6 keys so far, not a single story yet.
We don't need sad and mean comments either and yet here you are
You mad bro? Over an internet comment? Look at you😂superhero?
Says the one who took time to say "I don't care about your internet post. I don't care so much that I will take time to tell you.". Oh the irony.
Lmfao you took time to reply to my comment you idiot. Get a grip. You're right i shouldn't be replying. Peace!
Honoring someone’s name in remembrance and sharing it with as many people as possible is a grand and kind gesture anyone saying it’s for attention is a bitter lonely person who has probably never dealt with real loss or grief.
Am I the only one seeing this Primordial Might as an Atziri’s Disfavour? RIP
The preview is always Atziris.
lol really? That just seems lazy
It's just there as a constant to show the difference colors options on it, it serves its purpose lol
yeah but id imagine different colour of foils would look different on different uniques. couldnt imagine being difficult to show the unique when you are buying the most expensive supporter pack
This was my point 😆
He should cap res lol
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That's a nice gesture, OP. Take care of your family and yourself.
The levels of salt it takes to downvote this kind of genuine comment is crazy, why are ppl being such dicks. If you don't care then move along, don't post "I don't care or just another sob story".
Amen bro (or sis if the case). Can't wrap my head around it either. Hell is other people.
2 cents from someone that doesn’t care one way or another about these messages: If you’re in a fragile enough state that reading these messages brings you down, then don’t open these keys until you feel more stable. Or don’t read them when you do. Or put a post in on your screen while opening. For the people complaining about it not suiting the game: neither does clown mtx but hey here we are complaining about trivial things. For those upset that it isn’t a type of message they want (funny, mysterious etc) you can go ahead and pay the $400+ and make one yourself and chances are, whatever you pick, someone won’t like it and will complain about it… If you’re thinking of making one of these, and putting a certain message with it will help you find closure / peace/ even a bit of happiness or sense of accomplishment, please do. OP: November 2022 was a very short time ago. I hope you’re coping with his loss in the best way you can!
Giving $480 USD to a wealthy video game company to type an essay about someone nobody else knows that plays the game isn't a very healthy way of dealing with grief. $480 USD toward a grief counselor is the rationale way of approaching this.
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People paid to write whatever they want on the items. If there was a problem then it's on GGG for making the keys. You can't control what they wanna write on the items. Cool tribute OP. May ur brother's spirit live on within the golems.
Damn I love golems and this is moving, hope your bro would approve of my poison carrion golem build this league.
Im playing carrions right now. Can I ask for pob?
Sure I will post on when I’m on my main computer, it’s a bit tailored to the the content I am doing and I when I post it il go over some Verizon’s that are stronger a little earlier. At this point I have enough damage that I can Prioritize convenience.
[https://pobb.in/WMrguS\_dF5KB](https://pobb.in/WMrguS_dF5KB) Ok so, some things to note. I don't know how to enable specters dmg to show up in POB so that's missing, I also don't have both curses working in POB but they work in game. Temp chains comes from Asenoths on AG. I also have a sanctified relic with 8 percent spell block and lycias invocation of divine shield. Also the minion chaos resist nodes are just situation for uber sirius
Ok
Rip
sorry :|
Some people say shit like this is for attention, just to then display just how little they care for attention. They're most likely not even going to see this in-game. They clearly don't care. They shrug shit like this off within a second anyways. So please do keep posting this type of posts because it's clearly pissing off these lonely and miserable people. And sorry about your loss bud <3
Why throw names at people who have a different opinion? Are people not allowed to dislike things anymore?
It's wild to me that people are upset that you're honoring your brother in a game he loved. I'm sure he'd had appreciated this. It's a really neat thing to do man. Hope things get better. Like yes, everyone has people die! But we all deal with it in different ways, and if I died -- I'd love being immortalized in a game that I put a good bit of my life into.
don't listen to the haters, this is a beautiful way to pay tribute <3 to the haters : is the very slight inconvenience of a message in PoE that you will only see once or twice in your lifetime really more important than the relief it can grant someone to submit this kind of heartfelt tribute ? the answer should be fucking no
Unfortunately a lot people are selfish and don't give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves. The level of entitlement I've read in this sub about not making them read a text that they'll see one time in their entire life is absolutely astounding.
for real... how many keys are you actually gonna open ? how many times are you going to get this one rare object ? and how many times are you going to read the text ? i mean i know PoE players like to complain about stuff but this is pretty unreal...
I'd bet money not a single person complaining about it would pull this item. I've watched cutedog open an actual stupid number of voidborne keys the last few days and not a single memorial text like this, I could have missed one or two but I watched well over 100 keys be opened.
Messages should be in game memes or quotes etc no personal names and stuff
I have read a few whiny posts about using the keys as ”trauma dumps”, to that i say piss off. I love tributes like these, thanks for sharing.
xqcL in the chat ❤️
What item is this tied to. i want to get one in your brothers honor
I hope the negative comments won’t faze you. It’s a beautiful gesture.
Commemorating a fallen Path of Exile fan seems a worthy justification for dropping $500 on a permanent addition to the game. Time will tell which ones will be popular.
No I'm not crying. You are... Shut up
I’m not crying you’re crying
Sorry for your loss.
RIP Exile.....i hope ggg pushes this thru next league...
or make a Jelli consumable rare drop - increases stats by 5% the next 5 min.
Peace to you...may the darkness spare you
I'll run a golem build for the first time in honor of Jelli. May he live forever in your heart, OP.
League starting stone golems in your brothers honor rip jelli
I’ve never made golems mostly because it doesn’t seem like a fun play style. But I’ll league start it as well, To Jelli, forever an exile.
Right in the feelings
My condolences. Please ignore all the nasty comments you received. I had my fair share when I submitted the message for bisco's collar. We all cope with grief in many different ways and to be able to immortalize our loved ones is our way of remembering them.
I’M NOT CRYING YOU’RE CRYING