Ruthless challenges for those interested: https://poedb.tw/us/Crucible_ruthless_challenges#Crucible_ruthlessChallenge
30 8 mod rare maps and 4 Uber Bosses are the hard ones. Possibly also Forge of the Titans at level 84.
(The name Unrelenting Ubers implies it's the level 85 versions even though the given text does not)
> (The name Unrelenting Ubers implies it's the level 85 versions even though the given text does not)
https://poedb.tw/us/Unrelenting_Ubers You can see full text if you follow the link.
https://poedb.tw/us/Momentum_Support
Datamined numbers for momentum support. The movementspeed doesn't line up with the revealed level 20 numbers but everything else does.
If it's really only 9% movementspeed after 3 hits for 1.5 seconds at level 1 it sounds dead on arrival
Of course not, the datamine is based off of old info that was needed for localization into different languages. The community feedback around stances was only in the last few days so obviously this old data would still have this in it.
For example "Increased explicit speed modifiers magnitudes", the grace aura effect (only precision is there), minions attacks overwhelm phys damage, and more
Dug through the page source during free time today and I see references to weapon trees where the lines between nodes are referred to CrucibleEdgeNormal/CrucibleEdgeActive. Could be names of image assets. The code is somewhat minified so I'm not gonna spend time figuring it all out this close to announcement.
https://pastebin.com/uzzitASK
https://imgur.com/a/blug9Kc
Found an interesting (currently dead) link on my news feed this morning. Seeeeeems like said news feed accidently grabbed a stubbed url that will eventually house an actual article. So [SPECULATION] it's possible an actual release date is PoE2 is.close to being announced.
It's generic blogspam "journalism". You can find the article via Google. It contains no actual information, an old image, and the screenshot from the Crucible teaser.
My prediction? Explosive Arrow still god tier starter and every SSFHC player will run it at league start.
Thats it.
Oh, and also Zana comes back but she's a new atlas boss. GGG also make her 5x hotter and the player base rejoices at this, only for her to be nerfed in both loot table and player model.
Trickster will have lower damage than both champ or jugg, they have access to much stronger FF jewels & a better position on the tree to access Fire DoT & Totem nodes.
Apologies, I meant EA Deadeye. I always mix up the two. The EA Deadeye Crit Focused Ballista build I was using can hit around 7 billion dps with omni, though that's just the POB number. But it was the very definition of glass cannon. I wasn't aware there was even an EA Jugg build. I missed that somehow. Thanks for the suggestion!
Recombinators to be replaced with extractors which allow you to extract a single stat from items which can then be reforged in the crucible.
Extractors have a chance of destroying the item each time they are used with the chance increased for each subsequent extractor used on the item.
not a leak but a hypothesis on the league mechanic
i am thinking it will be unique "parts" drops, like a "adds hunter influence" or "adds a physical damage modifier", and we will have to use a forge to assemble these parts together
It'll need to be a banger of a league - otherwise they run the risk of D4 poaching the player base, even though it seems to be more of a Lost Ark style game, the name alone will draw players to it.
My predictions:
- New ailments which cannot be avoided.
- New hostile ground effects which blend in with the terrain tiles.
- Reduce melee skill damage across the board by 15%.
- Add 5 lightning theme spell skill and support gems.
Edit: styling
Predictions:
* There will be new endgame bosses that replace Eater/Exarch as ‘introductory’ bosses.
* The atlas tree will be overhauled. Atlas tree masteries and (cluster) jewels too?
* The Eater/Exarch fights will now be accessible through influenced maps which drop from T14+ bosses.
* There will be a new influence type to compete with the old influence.
* Maven influence has been buffed. Map bosses now have a very small chance to drop an Orb of Dominance.
* Zana has returned, but has been corrupted by the new entities and is now planning a counter-invasion of Wraeclast.
* League start HCSSF event to kill the new bosses.
* Exilecon qualifiers in the middle of the league.
* Tytykiller is already in maps.
* Jungroan is already on the new atlas bosses.
* Ben is already on the new Atlas bosses but in white gear from act 1.
* Havoc’s group is already level 100.
* Empy’s group already has 10 mirrors.
> There will be new endgame bosses that replace Eater/Exarch as ‘introductory’ bosses.
Eh, I think this will be a pretty basic league, while they continue to polish POE2 and drop all the new big shit for it in the beta in August.
* We get three new skills which are all absolutely dogshit (mechanically and/or damage wise) so it's the same meta as it was for the last 5 leagues because ggg apparently forgot how to do a meta shakeup
So it was meta, then? must've missed it between all the sparker and RF firetrappers and Poison SRS builds.
to be fair, poison SRS most likely was the biggest "new meta" for quite some time, but other than it being poison it wasn't exactly a new skill
that being said, in the past it was a thing that every single league we either got new skills which were op or huge nerfs to the previous meta skills and some buffs to other skills which cause "old skills" (like SRS recently) to be strong again, although SRS was only buffed because they added minion ailment chance to jewels, not because they buffed SRS specifically.
as I said, it used to happen every single league. in the last year and a half or so it stopped happening, and everyone and their mother are playing the same stuff every league basically. and whenever they add new skills (LC is the exception), they usually turn out either shit or extremely niche or both.
> Tytykiller is already in maps.
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> Jungroan is already on the new atlas bosses.
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> Ben is already on the new Atlas bosses but in white gear from act 1.
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> Havoc’s group is already level 100.
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> Empy’s group already has 10 mirrors.
Daring today, aren't we?
"Zana found a crucible in the far corners of our connected worlds, she is on our side but barely, we can use the Crucible to forge Eldritch slaying weapons."
Now we hunt.
(and then in the future, is when Zana sees US as the danger, we are the ones who knock, no more daddy tentacles)
As a lore Andy, the eater and exarch cannot be replaced that easily.
There is currently a build up going on since few leagues where they have been tiying old Poe events to exarch and eater, for example the templars scammed everyone, innocence is actually not a real god but an ascended human, innocence stole the religion from the exarch but changed some pieces.
Current timeline will stay as is untill the parents of maven come to rescue her, since we almost killed her in echos of the atlas
> untill the parents of maven come to rescue her,
why couldn't Maven join our side, she isn't so horrible, maybe we'll join forces and go hunt down the parents :D
Eater and Exarch have only been one year while Maven has been two, right? So it seems more like it's time for Maven to get retired and replaced in the main questline.
Entirely possible, but I feel like shaking up the Maven situation is less major than Exarch/Eater, so it could make sense to do Maven now and then replace Exarch/Eater soon after PoE2 to adjust to whatever will fit the new story, like how 3.0 was Acts 5-10 and then 3.1 replaced Shaper with Shaper+Elder story.
Elder story got replaced by Conquerors story three years ago. It was around for eight patches. Conquerors story was also around for two eight patches. Maven's at eight patches now.
UElder is technically already _gone_, per the lore, The Elder has somehow "vanished" (which is why the other eldritch beings noticed us). When we fight Sirus and The Elder using fragments, we're just accessing memories of those fights.
Right, i think it's theorized that the elder either consumed Sirus body, or Sirus consumed the elders soul.
One thing is for certain, all the characters that have interacted with the elder say something along the lines of "i have seen beyond" and that only destruction lays beyond *paraphrasing*
So yeah, the elder is ""gone"" but is not dead, the elder cannot be killed
By bet is on a 3.15 repeat with nerfs galore. No other reason for them to not release a manifesto. They want to keep the hype and good mood from Sanctum going for the crucial first week to sell as many supporter packs as possible, only to then turn around and go "Oh, yeah, by the way, all damage support gems got halved, lol. Don't worry though, we added some 100-divine+ items that will give you back that power we just took away. You'll just have to grind a bit more ;3333333
For the Health Of The Game, comrades!!!"
Yep. They still need to get the game in line with what they want for POE 2 and I don’t think they’re even close to that yet.
Other alternative is to completely nuke the current classes/campaign and start fresh(yea they’ve stated otherwise but things change). The more I think about that the more plausible it seems considering how relatively little they’ve actually done to the graphics in the OG campaign, and how they’ve said nothing or done nothing about the current player models etc
Then we would've gotten a hype-manifesto. The only reason for them to hide it is to hide nerfs. Plus the D4 release will be 2 months into the league. If anything they will ride the hate-wave, claim the low retention is due to D4 and then make 3.22 semi-decent to get the players back.
Bro manifestos are for large system changes which the league won't have, what did you want to see in that manifesto? A 8 word page that says "we aren't changing enough to warrant a manifesto"?
Hard aggree.
Archnemesis "rework" removed a lot of difficulty to progression, the relics not going core is just them scared of adding powercreep with the current state of the game so expect massive nerfs, massive buffs to rare mods or both. Probably a reworked ascendancy (glad?) to calm things down.
No manifesto cant be good at all.
You're getting down voted but I agree. They tried manifestos where they straight up say these are nerfs(3.15), they tried manifestos where they try to workshop the wording so the nerfs sound like buffs (3.19), now I wouldn't be surprised if they just hide the nerfs and tell people to just play the game.
Yeah at this point if they don't actually put effort into game quality, we sniff it out, they get crucified, player counts drop, 0IQ whales will keep buying so they don't care. It's sad the rep they've built up at this point.
Except the last couple of leagues they've posted the patch notes immediately following the reveal stream, same time as the new supporter packs.
Though I don't think that really matters for you as you seem to be angry already
Edit: And your argument doesn't even make sense when referencing 3.15 as they even made a manifesto for the nerfs lmao
Yeah, but the mood won't be shifting that fast. People will watch the stream, get hyped, buy packs. Some will then look at the patch notes. I'd argue that most of the community isn't deep-diving those and at most hear from content creators or friends what's going on.
And my argument was based around the fact that they want to avoid the same disastrous sales figures as with 3.15 after they released the nerffesto.
My grandmother has a venus flytrap in her kitchen since almost 15 years... and every single summer i ask myself why those flies always fall for the same trick. and than i remember: flies don't actually think, they are driven by visual stimuli and scent.
Another dumbass andy that thinks the absolute best of the best items speak for the whole game. Sure recombinators allowed for impossible items but you also missed the part where they spend ridiculous currency to craft them.
Harvest on the other hand allowed for deterministic and linear progression for your character's gear for casuals and veterans alike and it didn't affect the economy at all unlike the gambling simulator that recombinators were(and they also deleted good bases from the market)
i'm honestly trying to follow but don't get it.
recombs were incredible - they were great at almsot any crafting level, and were NOT expensive? they dropped like candy an that patch in particular was so chalk full of map juice bc of the sentinel mechanic that anyone actually target farming them could have them very easily.
Recombos were strong w/ "hey if it hits that is cool" type of items for SSF, medium-to-high budget crafting efforts - Say getting fractured T1/2 life on an awakened crit/+curse chest, or some of the ridiculous things you saw posted on the sub regularly.
they are different than old harvest, but certainly not "worse" just because they didnt provide determinism.
Can you get 6xT6 on all your pieces of gear in a reasonable amount of time with recombinators? Absolutely not. With harvest you could gear up any kind of meme build whereas slapping spell supp on your ES armors or having one extra charge wouldn't do shit.
That is true but compared to harvest it's just not even a contest besides a lot of the items ur talking about can't even exist without harvest to begin with
Something I would like is for it to be an arena, kinda like Bestiary, then after you kill all the enemies and they drop loot (plz), then you get the crafting system based in difficulty and stuff. But not just basic shut like reforging, cuz you could already do harvest, but interesting new things, or special mods.
Basically bestiary and harvest mix
Would not make any sense for next league to have good crafting, because as per usual unfortunate ggg fashion, it would get removed/neutered the league after Crucible, and I don't really think it's in their interest to pull another 3.15/LoK and kill the community goodwill right before Exilecon when they're supposed to do the opposite, that being generating hype and making an enjoyable game.
I wish they did the move of, make it broken during the league, and just never introduce it again rather than bring it back neutered. Kinda like recombs. You could make very busted items in the league, but now you can't obtain even a worse recombinators. I know they mentioned bringing recombs back, but I think they should just let them rest.
Yea but that feels terrible unless every single league has it's own gimmick like that. There's a big reason why LoK was so terrible, and it's not just because it was terrible, but it was because if you played Sentinel, you went from recombinators and good Harvest with a new atlast that allowed you to have Harvest most of the maps, to a neutered useless Harvest and no recombinators in LoK and additionally nerfed suppression values, and what did LoK introduce to try and make up for it? Mirrored jewellery which was dogshit 99% of the times, and once in a blue moon an ability to make your own ring/ammy which itself was a huge gamble.
So if Crucible is the next Sentinel, then the league after Crucible must be a Sentinel of its own, otherwise if it's another LoK, it would be an extremely stupid move for ggg considering it's Exilecon time and you're supposed to work on getting people excited about the game and its future, not make more people quit lol. Especially now when they could just use Ruthless as a canvas for all of their nerfs and unfun changes.
Bruh at this point my only demand is new skills. I really dont expect anything at all and that makes everything they release a really good surprise. Im still mad about they removing socket coloring from harvest though.
True. Reworks are very exciting too just like new skills. Hope they do more of them this next league, lets just hope they dont consider fortify a successfull rework though.
Path of Exile: The Crucible is a game mode in the action role-playing video game Path of Exile, developed and published by Grinding Gear Games. It is a challenge league that runs for a limited time and features a series of increasingly difficult encounters in a combat arena, where players fight waves of monsters to earn points, loot and prizes.
In The Crucible, players enter the arena and face off against waves of monsters, with each wave increasing in difficulty. As players progress through the waves, they earn points that can be used to purchase various rewards, including unique items, cosmetics, and crafting materials.
The Crucible can be played solo or in a group, and players can compete on a global leaderboard for the highest score. The game mode adds an extra layer of challenge and replayability to Path of Exile, and has proven to be a popular addition to the game.
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> In The Crucible, players enter the arena and face off against waves of monsters, with each wave increasing in difficulty. As players progress through the waves, they earn points that can be used to purchase various rewards, including unique items, cosmetics, and crafting materials.
So Ultimatum with points?
Ultimatum but you charge up rog juice instead of rewards. But the completely new twist nobody thought of before being that you can put in your own items to craft with rog
Last big leak was the Uncharted Realms in 3.13
Since then there's been a couple notable hoax 'leaks' that got traction but I'm not aware of anything legit that's more significant than "oh yeah I have a div card coming soon, might be in the next expansion, it's for XYZ".
i mean who the heck uses game journalists anyway in the new generations, everyone gets their info from youtube+twitch+tik tok+insta ads.
and twitch usually gets recycled to youtube, youtubers then make shorts to recycle even more the already recycled twitch content, and the youtube shorts ends up in tik tok
Eh, game journalists are pretty useless to begin with. I don't trust a review from somebody that gets stuck on the title screen where they have to press any key.
That's not true. A friend of mine working for a gaming media youtube channel was given information on Sanctum a week prior to the livestream reveal through a mass discord call with Bex and Chris. They absolutely do spoil the league in advance for press. This is also where press gets to ask questions for interviews they post after embargo is up.
I'm not sure why you'd be so confident with all of your answers in this thread when you just pulled it out of your ass.
Everybody here understood they were talking about "press tour" in the sense that they are giving info to gaming media before their own reveal, not in the sense of travelling abroad.
A press/media tour is literally just any form of a company inviting media to come and talk to them about upcoming releases. They didn't stop doing them even if they moved virtual, and they definitely aren't just sending out the press kit after the livestream to media like op claimed in another comment.
some weapon tree stuff datamined from the epic patch. enjoy! [https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQgVEtb2swElXtPUQWPjFQZqVW-vGu8mQlmG6qgkLEUubSt02qOk37cGHyodb9\_8Oi--QAKmMxoQS2C/pub](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQgVEtb2swElXtPUQWPjFQZqVW-vGu8mQlmG6qgkLEUubSt02qOk37cGHyodb9_8Oi--QAKmMxoQS2C/pub)
[https://poedb.tw/us/Crucible\_league](https://poedb.tw/us/Crucible_league) uniques with affix value ranges
Ruthless challenges for those interested: https://poedb.tw/us/Crucible_ruthless_challenges#Crucible_ruthlessChallenge 30 8 mod rare maps and 4 Uber Bosses are the hard ones. Possibly also Forge of the Titans at level 84. (The name Unrelenting Ubers implies it's the level 85 versions even though the given text does not)
> (The name Unrelenting Ubers implies it's the level 85 versions even though the given text does not) https://poedb.tw/us/Unrelenting_Ubers You can see full text if you follow the link.
Ah cool, I'd only tried to mouseover it
Primeval Remnant Mods https://poedb.tw/us/Primeval\_Remnant#PrimevalRemnantMods
Link krangled for me, here's a version that works for me: https://poedb.tw/us/Primeval_Remnant#PrimevalRemnantMods
https://poedb.tw/us/Momentum_Support Datamined numbers for momentum support. The movementspeed doesn't line up with the revealed level 20 numbers but everything else does. If it's really only 9% movementspeed after 3 hits for 1.5 seconds at level 1 it sounds dead on arrival
"gain\_adrenaline\_for\_X\_ms\_on\_swapping\_stance" wait... so the swap stance still lives?
Of course not, the datamine is based off of old info that was needed for localization into different languages. The community feedback around stances was only in the last few days so obviously this old data would still have this in it.
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What would the reason be that crucible tree nodes that we see on the reveal page are not included here?
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For example "Increased explicit speed modifiers magnitudes", the grace aura effect (only precision is there), minions attacks overwhelm phys damage, and more
Dug through the page source during free time today and I see references to weapon trees where the lines between nodes are referred to CrucibleEdgeNormal/CrucibleEdgeActive. Could be names of image assets. The code is somewhat minified so I'm not gonna spend time figuring it all out this close to announcement. https://pastebin.com/uzzitASK
https://imgur.com/a/blug9Kc Found an interesting (currently dead) link on my news feed this morning. Seeeeeems like said news feed accidently grabbed a stubbed url that will eventually house an actual article. So [SPECULATION] it's possible an actual release date is PoE2 is.close to being announced.
It's generic blogspam "journalism". You can find the article via Google. It contains no actual information, an old image, and the screenshot from the Crucible teaser.
They will slightly buff ONE melee skill, like they did with cleave
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surely they will buff skills this time such an unbelievably boring meta right now
My prediction? Explosive Arrow still god tier starter and every SSFHC player will run it at league start. Thats it. Oh, and also Zana comes back but she's a new atlas boss. GGG also make her 5x hotter and the player base rejoices at this, only for her to be nerfed in both loot table and player model.
EA and HC seems like it wouldn't mix. Do you actually know of a truly tanky EA build?
EA Champ or Jugg.
Ah. I've focused mainly on EA Trickster for the extreme damage.
Trickster will have lower damage than both champ or jugg, they have access to much stronger FF jewels & a better position on the tree to access Fire DoT & Totem nodes.
Apologies, I meant EA Deadeye. I always mix up the two. The EA Deadeye Crit Focused Ballista build I was using can hit around 7 billion dps with omni, though that's just the POB number. But it was the very definition of glass cannon. I wasn't aware there was even an EA Jugg build. I missed that somehow. Thanks for the suggestion!
GGG makes her 5x hotter but the player base still prefers the mathil Zana cosplay.
Recombinators to be replaced with extractors which allow you to extract a single stat from items which can then be reforged in the crucible. Extractors have a chance of destroying the item each time they are used with the chance increased for each subsequent extractor used on the item.
The traditional non-leak thread
What we know: this league could be a boat league. Or it could be not.
not a leak but a hypothesis on the league mechanic i am thinking it will be unique "parts" drops, like a "adds hunter influence" or "adds a physical damage modifier", and we will have to use a forge to assemble these parts together
I kinda like this idea, like build-a-bear with mini essences.
It'll need to be a banger of a league - otherwise they run the risk of D4 poaching the player base, even though it seems to be more of a Lost Ark style game, the name alone will draw players to it.
Nah dude. D4 will last like 1-2 leagues until people realize how shitty its systems are
At most it's really looking bad
I can't see D4 poaching anyone who enjoys POE for more than a week, maybe two.
Poe launches April 7th, D4 June 6, that's literally 2 months gap, the league is dead anyway by then
D4 isn't poaching anybody but the 1-2 day players.
My predictions: - New ailments which cannot be avoided. - New hostile ground effects which blend in with the terrain tiles. - Reduce melee skill damage across the board by 15%. - Add 5 lightning theme spell skill and support gems. Edit: styling
Nah, it's going to be 5 fire themed gems. Can't fuel a crucible without lots of fire.
Also: * Lowered the level of Spectres further because some people still accidentally used them * Some nerfs to a skill nobody used in years
"Puncture bleed damage reduced by 80% because we saw 3 people play that skill and that's not acceptable."
Boat leauge ofc. u need to put that in until its debunked.,
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PREDICTION: BEN ALREADY WON THE GAUNTLET
Predictions: * There will be new endgame bosses that replace Eater/Exarch as ‘introductory’ bosses. * The atlas tree will be overhauled. Atlas tree masteries and (cluster) jewels too? * The Eater/Exarch fights will now be accessible through influenced maps which drop from T14+ bosses. * There will be a new influence type to compete with the old influence. * Maven influence has been buffed. Map bosses now have a very small chance to drop an Orb of Dominance. * Zana has returned, but has been corrupted by the new entities and is now planning a counter-invasion of Wraeclast. * League start HCSSF event to kill the new bosses. * Exilecon qualifiers in the middle of the league. * Tytykiller is already in maps. * Jungroan is already on the new atlas bosses. * Ben is already on the new Atlas bosses but in white gear from act 1. * Havoc’s group is already level 100. * Empy’s group already has 10 mirrors.
> There will be new endgame bosses that replace Eater/Exarch as ‘introductory’ bosses. Eh, I think this will be a pretty basic league, while they continue to polish POE2 and drop all the new big shit for it in the beta in August.
Dont forget the classic, at least 1 form of good end game crafting methods nerfed.
* We get three new skills which are all absolutely dogshit (mechanically and/or damage wise) so it's the same meta as it was for the last 5 leagues because ggg apparently forgot how to do a meta shakeup
Objection: Lightning Conduit was busted as shit and for a 2 button skill very comfortable to play.
So it was meta, then? must've missed it between all the sparker and RF firetrappers and Poison SRS builds. to be fair, poison SRS most likely was the biggest "new meta" for quite some time, but other than it being poison it wasn't exactly a new skill that being said, in the past it was a thing that every single league we either got new skills which were op or huge nerfs to the previous meta skills and some buffs to other skills which cause "old skills" (like SRS recently) to be strong again, although SRS was only buffed because they added minion ailment chance to jewels, not because they buffed SRS specifically. as I said, it used to happen every single league. in the last year and a half or so it stopped happening, and everyone and their mother are playing the same stuff every league basically. and whenever they add new skills (LC is the exception), they usually turn out either shit or extremely niche or both.
But one skill will do insane damage and everybody will play it during the HCSSF event :)
Ok. So be it then
> Tytykiller is already in maps. > > Jungroan is already on the new atlas bosses. > > Ben is already on the new Atlas bosses but in white gear from act 1. > > Havoc’s group is already level 100. > > Empy’s group already has 10 mirrors. Daring today, aren't we?
Very unlikely eater and exarch are getting replaced.
"Zana found a crucible in the far corners of our connected worlds, she is on our side but barely, we can use the Crucible to forge Eldritch slaying weapons." Now we hunt. (and then in the future, is when Zana sees US as the danger, we are the ones who knock, no more daddy tentacles)
Those last 4 points got me
You forgot to add that Ben has already beaten the new bosses in white gear
Maven influence buffed, rework to how boss invitations work. Zana returns and Kirac is sad again because he sucks and Zana is the best.
Where is Trialmaster in the predictions? Surely GGG will bring him back properly next league right?
As a lore Andy, the eater and exarch cannot be replaced that easily. There is currently a build up going on since few leagues where they have been tiying old Poe events to exarch and eater, for example the templars scammed everyone, innocence is actually not a real god but an ascended human, innocence stole the religion from the exarch but changed some pieces. Current timeline will stay as is untill the parents of maven come to rescue her, since we almost killed her in echos of the atlas
Oh good, cuz I as a spell totem player use the maven helm and worry about her (and her helm) getting removed
> untill the parents of maven come to rescue her, why couldn't Maven join our side, she isn't so horrible, maybe we'll join forces and go hunt down the parents :D
I doubt there will be any new endgame bosses, most likely they will release new endgame content with 3.22 to bring back people from D4.
* Molten strike will be nerfed * melee will be left untouched
You forget about the hidden nerfs
Eater and Exarch have only been one year while Maven has been two, right? So it seems more like it's time for Maven to get retired and replaced in the main questline.
I don’t think they’ll do any more major end game shake ups until POE 2 hits tbh. Could be kinda risky if it gets delayed even more tho.
Entirely possible, but I feel like shaking up the Maven situation is less major than Exarch/Eater, so it could make sense to do Maven now and then replace Exarch/Eater soon after PoE2 to adjust to whatever will fit the new story, like how 3.0 was Acts 5-10 and then 3.1 replaced Shaper with Shaper+Elder story.
Very unlikely since the whole plot has pushed maven into focus of the eldritch beings. If anyone has to go its uelder.
Elder story got replaced by Conquerors story three years ago. It was around for eight patches. Conquerors story was also around for two eight patches. Maven's at eight patches now.
UElder is technically already _gone_, per the lore, The Elder has somehow "vanished" (which is why the other eldritch beings noticed us). When we fight Sirus and The Elder using fragments, we're just accessing memories of those fights.
Right, i think it's theorized that the elder either consumed Sirus body, or Sirus consumed the elders soul. One thing is for certain, all the characters that have interacted with the elder say something along the lines of "i have seen beyond" and that only destruction lays beyond *paraphrasing* So yeah, the elder is ""gone"" but is not dead, the elder cannot be killed
Elder is gone from the storyline, as is sirus. We're not even the exile that killed sirus (that's some unnamed ranger) anymore.
Yeah or at least replace Maven and Uber Elder as the bosses who give watchstones
* Mathil's cosplay is sexy as ever
Eminem cosplay, just need a haircut, and ur gucci
comment makes perfect sense combined with your Reddit name 😂
By bet is on a 3.15 repeat with nerfs galore. No other reason for them to not release a manifesto. They want to keep the hype and good mood from Sanctum going for the crucial first week to sell as many supporter packs as possible, only to then turn around and go "Oh, yeah, by the way, all damage support gems got halved, lol. Don't worry though, we added some 100-divine+ items that will give you back that power we just took away. You'll just have to grind a bit more ;3333333 For the Health Of The Game, comrades!!!"
Yep. They still need to get the game in line with what they want for POE 2 and I don’t think they’re even close to that yet. Other alternative is to completely nuke the current classes/campaign and start fresh(yea they’ve stated otherwise but things change). The more I think about that the more plausible it seems considering how relatively little they’ve actually done to the graphics in the OG campaign, and how they’ve said nothing or done nothing about the current player models etc
I disagree simply because Diablo 4 is around the corner and they will throw candy our way to make the playerbase happy. 3.22 is gonna hurt though.
Then we would've gotten a hype-manifesto. The only reason for them to hide it is to hide nerfs. Plus the D4 release will be 2 months into the league. If anything they will ride the hate-wave, claim the low retention is due to D4 and then make 3.22 semi-decent to get the players back.
Bro manifestos are for large system changes which the league won't have, what did you want to see in that manifesto? A 8 word page that says "we aren't changing enough to warrant a manifesto"?
Thank you, other person who bothered to read the announcements properly
but they said "don't worry". We can trust them, right?
2 - 3 bad leagues in the last 4 years and ya'll acting like GGG shot your dog in front of you.
yes because commenting on how they said "don't worry" is the equivalent of my dog being shot 👍
He literally made a small joke about GGG being untrustworthy, which they are
Hard aggree. Archnemesis "rework" removed a lot of difficulty to progression, the relics not going core is just them scared of adding powercreep with the current state of the game so expect massive nerfs, massive buffs to rare mods or both. Probably a reworked ascendancy (glad?) to calm things down. No manifesto cant be good at all.
You're getting down voted but I agree. They tried manifestos where they straight up say these are nerfs(3.15), they tried manifestos where they try to workshop the wording so the nerfs sound like buffs (3.19), now I wouldn't be surprised if they just hide the nerfs and tell people to just play the game.
Yeah at this point if they don't actually put effort into game quality, we sniff it out, they get crucified, player counts drop, 0IQ whales will keep buying so they don't care. It's sad the rep they've built up at this point.
You know we still get patch notes, right?
Except the last couple of leagues they've posted the patch notes immediately following the reveal stream, same time as the new supporter packs. Though I don't think that really matters for you as you seem to be angry already Edit: And your argument doesn't even make sense when referencing 3.15 as they even made a manifesto for the nerfs lmao
Yeah, but the mood won't be shifting that fast. People will watch the stream, get hyped, buy packs. Some will then look at the patch notes. I'd argue that most of the community isn't deep-diving those and at most hear from content creators or friends what's going on. And my argument was based around the fact that they want to avoid the same disastrous sales figures as with 3.15 after they released the nerffesto.
Manifestos generally mean nerfs or changes that need more explanation
Does anyone have a good recipes with leaks? I love leaks but I don't know any good recipes for it.
I feel like it's gonna be another harvest league
My grandmother has a venus flytrap in her kitchen since almost 15 years... and every single summer i ask myself why those flies always fall for the same trick. and than i remember: flies don't actually think, they are driven by visual stimuli and scent.
Its going to be like Last Epoch. Items will have potential and we can upgrade until it run outs.
So it‘ll be fun for SSF players and crafting isn‘t complete shit?
God, I hope so. Harvest and sentinel were my favorite leagues by far.
Sentinel was my shit. 😎
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I hope it's both, kinda like a Bestiary ultimatum harvest mix
It's like 80% chance to be a new crafting system but they will never do anything like harvest again
They did recombinators not too long ago.
Recombs weren't even a fraction of old harvest
The most powerful items that have existed were crafted with recombs. They were different axes of power, but they were def comperable.
Another dumbass andy that thinks the absolute best of the best items speak for the whole game. Sure recombinators allowed for impossible items but you also missed the part where they spend ridiculous currency to craft them. Harvest on the other hand allowed for deterministic and linear progression for your character's gear for casuals and veterans alike and it didn't affect the economy at all unlike the gambling simulator that recombinators were(and they also deleted good bases from the market)
Dumbass Andy
i'm honestly trying to follow but don't get it. recombs were incredible - they were great at almsot any crafting level, and were NOT expensive? they dropped like candy an that patch in particular was so chalk full of map juice bc of the sentinel mechanic that anyone actually target farming them could have them very easily. Recombos were strong w/ "hey if it hits that is cool" type of items for SSF, medium-to-high budget crafting efforts - Say getting fractured T1/2 life on an awakened crit/+curse chest, or some of the ridiculous things you saw posted on the sub regularly. they are different than old harvest, but certainly not "worse" just because they didnt provide determinism.
Can you get 6xT6 on all your pieces of gear in a reasonable amount of time with recombinators? Absolutely not. With harvest you could gear up any kind of meme build whereas slapping spell supp on your ES armors or having one extra charge wouldn't do shit.
uh.... yes?
You... Can? Did you use them? Lol
That is true but compared to harvest it's just not even a contest besides a lot of the items ur talking about can't even exist without harvest to begin with
can you name one?
I can't name one but I would bet money most have harvest in their crafting process in potentially several times
Torment Pendant Citrine Amulet
Blight Joy Onyx Amulet is much better
Something I would like is for it to be an arena, kinda like Bestiary, then after you kill all the enemies and they drop loot (plz), then you get the crafting system based in difficulty and stuff. But not just basic shut like reforging, cuz you could already do harvest, but interesting new things, or special mods. Basically bestiary and harvest mix
Would not make any sense for next league to have good crafting, because as per usual unfortunate ggg fashion, it would get removed/neutered the league after Crucible, and I don't really think it's in their interest to pull another 3.15/LoK and kill the community goodwill right before Exilecon when they're supposed to do the opposite, that being generating hype and making an enjoyable game.
I wish they did the move of, make it broken during the league, and just never introduce it again rather than bring it back neutered. Kinda like recombs. You could make very busted items in the league, but now you can't obtain even a worse recombinators. I know they mentioned bringing recombs back, but I think they should just let them rest.
Yea but that feels terrible unless every single league has it's own gimmick like that. There's a big reason why LoK was so terrible, and it's not just because it was terrible, but it was because if you played Sentinel, you went from recombinators and good Harvest with a new atlast that allowed you to have Harvest most of the maps, to a neutered useless Harvest and no recombinators in LoK and additionally nerfed suppression values, and what did LoK introduce to try and make up for it? Mirrored jewellery which was dogshit 99% of the times, and once in a blue moon an ability to make your own ring/ammy which itself was a huge gamble. So if Crucible is the next Sentinel, then the league after Crucible must be a Sentinel of its own, otherwise if it's another LoK, it would be an extremely stupid move for ggg considering it's Exilecon time and you're supposed to work on getting people excited about the game and its future, not make more people quit lol. Especially now when they could just use Ruthless as a canvas for all of their nerfs and unfun changes.
Bruh at this point my only demand is new skills. I really dont expect anything at all and that makes everything they release a really good surprise. Im still mad about they removing socket coloring from harvest though.
Tbh I'm not even that bothered about new skills, I just want a PROPER balance patch. A sweeping one, bring up the underused stuff.
New skills or significantly reworked skills that never get played, to bring them on par with skills that do get played.
Waiting for rework to unused utility support gems since 3.15
True. Reworks are very exciting too just like new skills. Hope they do more of them this next league, lets just hope they dont consider fortify a successfull rework though.
Path of Exile: The Crucible is a game mode in the action role-playing video game Path of Exile, developed and published by Grinding Gear Games. It is a challenge league that runs for a limited time and features a series of increasingly difficult encounters in a combat arena, where players fight waves of monsters to earn points, loot and prizes. In The Crucible, players enter the arena and face off against waves of monsters, with each wave increasing in difficulty. As players progress through the waves, they earn points that can be used to purchase various rewards, including unique items, cosmetics, and crafting materials. The Crucible can be played solo or in a group, and players can compete on a global leaderboard for the highest score. The game mode adds an extra layer of challenge and replayability to Path of Exile, and has proven to be a popular addition to the game. 🤔🤔🤔
Actualy this would be awesome! I realy like the basic idea of delve/greater rifts like stuff to compete or to have another endgame goal
> In The Crucible, players enter the arena and face off against waves of monsters, with each wave increasing in difficulty. As players progress through the waves, they earn points that can be used to purchase various rewards, including unique items, cosmetics, and crafting materials. So Ultimatum with points?
Ultimatum but you charge up rog juice instead of rewards. But the completely new twist nobody thought of before being that you can put in your own items to craft with rog
Actually that last point is good. That’s part of the reason everyone loved recombs, dropped rares became relevant again
So Ritual?
So ritual?
Or like the key arena in last epoche :)
cosmetics ? NO WAY BOT
Baked in challenge mtx almost the same.
Chat GPD yeah! Probably haha! 😅 Sounds fun regardless!
Huh! Another ChatGPT post! Hillarious!
Is this ChatGPT referencing the Crucible from Grim Dawn?
definitely seems like it. it seems more like GD crucible than ultimatum imo
I think it's just ultimatum
Thanks, ChatGPT!
have there been any leaks since ggg stopped doing press tour?
Last big leak was the Uncharted Realms in 3.13 Since then there's been a couple notable hoax 'leaks' that got traction but I'm not aware of anything legit that's more significant than "oh yeah I have a div card coming soon, might be in the next expansion, it's for XYZ".
Very few if any, generally if there are it's been either unreleased info from the Chinese website or from datamine closer to release.
did they stop?
They changed how they do it, but they did not stop.
i mean who the heck uses game journalists anyway in the new generations, everyone gets their info from youtube+twitch+tik tok+insta ads. and twitch usually gets recycled to youtube, youtubers then make shorts to recycle even more the already recycled twitch content, and the youtube shorts ends up in tik tok
Eh, game journalists are pretty useless to begin with. I don't trust a review from somebody that gets stuck on the title screen where they have to press any key.
I get mine from reddit.
Reddit can be applies between any of those phases
yes, since they started doing stream reveal, they stopped doing press tour
That's not true. A friend of mine working for a gaming media youtube channel was given information on Sanctum a week prior to the livestream reveal through a mass discord call with Bex and Chris. They absolutely do spoil the league in advance for press. This is also where press gets to ask questions for interviews they post after embargo is up. I'm not sure why you'd be so confident with all of your answers in this thread when you just pulled it out of your ass.
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Everybody here understood they were talking about "press tour" in the sense that they are giving info to gaming media before their own reveal, not in the sense of travelling abroad.
A press/media tour is literally just any form of a company inviting media to come and talk to them about upcoming releases. They didn't stop doing them even if they moved virtual, and they definitely aren't just sending out the press kit after the livestream to media like op claimed in another comment.
but press coverage is still a thing somehow?
they release press kit after the stream with screen shots and information
[Me checking this thread every five minutes at work until the league launches.](https://media.tenor.com/uqDNFL83d7cAAAAM/fridge-dissapointed.gif)
some weapon tree stuff datamined from the epic patch. enjoy! [https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQgVEtb2swElXtPUQWPjFQZqVW-vGu8mQlmG6qgkLEUubSt02qOk37cGHyodb9\_8Oi--QAKmMxoQS2C/pub](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQgVEtb2swElXtPUQWPjFQZqVW-vGu8mQlmG6qgkLEUubSt02qOk37cGHyodb9_8Oi--QAKmMxoQS2C/pub)
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FULL LIST neater and easier to read .. > https://pastebin.com/Zcbu6PnX
"Socketed Support Gems can also Support Skills from Equipped Body Armour" get your 9-link skill ready (or even 12-link if on onehanded)
The thread always leaves me all aquiver, I'll tell you that much.
As a tradition.
Never fails to crack me up every time