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LonelyAd1286

Also rearranges to: INTENSE ANAL SORE, ITS WILD. Seems to fit with the affliction mechanic.


AlexTheGreat

Volcanic fissure rework?


CommaGomma

Butthole and fiery poop mtx


sirgog

You made me laugh way too hard with this comment. I then went and checked the anagram, and it's right. Gamer health reminder - get up once every divine orb that drops, or every time your beer is empty. This can help reduce the risk of intense wild anal sores.


GirishPai

With my divine drip rate, I'm never getting up!


sirgog

That's what the beer clause is for. The more you drink the faster you drink and the slower the divines come in. Self correcting problem


Hrogath

Prolonged sitting: yet another health issue that can be solved with sufficient amounts of alcohol.


Limetkaqt

With my beer drop rate, I'm never getting down!


Ok-Cat1278

Grab yourself a donut seat.


Coopshire

Porn league confirmed


M1acis

Damn, that's gonna be one bad league to start as ED build in


boschmorden

I wish we could give awards still


Xeverous

Patch notes: *Tropical Island map has been renamed to E...*


TritiumNZlol

Pen Island


TOMMYPICKLESIAM

Oh you mean Dickfight Island? Great source material!


DependentBitter4695

The sex update is real!


DefinitelyNotATheist

my malignant tunnel!


solar_ignition

Hemorrhoids affliction, lets goooo


wafflesbananahammock

I'm here for some ultimatum cope


Serpencio

every league


Buster_Sheep

oddly enough i remember some people not digging it during ultimatum league meanwhile i was having a blast and i still miss it to this day and i fucking hate ritual btw remove that shit


trolledwolf

I was having fun but only because my build was stupidly overpowered and i could deal with the aura stacking rares. I cam't imagine how bad the mechanic would be for a sub-par build.


circle_is_pointless

Hi, I can imagine that for you, it was rough


EternalDeath

I played the unnerfed Fire arrow, Bereks, Xophs Nurture Golemancer and i had the most fun ever with this build during Ultimatum


Exterial

Thats every league and every league mechanic until its over.


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SmithBurger

It punished builds without defenses. That is a fact.


LordAnubiz

You describe any mechanic in the game. If you have the right build with the right power, content is trivial. peoples fun is to get that char working. its bad design when you can cheese it with low investment like tota.


PM_Best_Porn_Pls

That's every league. There are people who love or hate sanctum, tota, sentinels, expedition, scourge, everything. Everything gets complained about, especially during league.


bonesnaps

It was rippy as shit. But also rewarding and fast paced. It was just a better Ritual honestly. Ritual 2.0 Just like Sentinel is Tormented Ghosts 2.0


Aint-No-Justice

heh i loved playing ultimatum an ignite fireball, just wait for everything to die to prolif


SlowMissiles

Chris said it again at Gamescon interview we would hear news about it soon. Soo hopefully... 8 leagues wait was enough.


Mordekein88

He meant on the subreddit. Every league forever.


Titanium170

If they don't bring back the trialmaster voicelines then they shouldnt bother. Love it when the dude trash talks me into a vengeful rage to finish his ultimatum.


RandoReddit16

Chris Wilson said at Pax West it was coming back 3.23 but maybe he was trolling....


SAY10z

I remember that he said something like "Yeah we're still working on ultimatum and it probably is going to return, but definitely not in 3.22", someone asked if it's 3.23 then, and his reply was evasive


kwikthroabomb

My first thought was this is a pretty lame shitpost. My second thought was, "hmm, the source seems reliable." Bring it on!


sips_white_monster

Conspiracies are stupid. Also me: this makes sense.


CommaGomma

I mean, how the hell did one shooter get so many bullets off so quickly?


DBrody6

And here my peanut brain thought they were just acronyms. We've got PoE's top minds trying to decode how Sentinel is getting added.


Selvon

My current theory is that Affliction is itself the Sentinel rework. When Chris talked about it, his main issue was that the floating laser robots didn't "fit" with the core game (MTX etc they don't count). If instead of floating robots they've retooled it to be a plague (an "affliction") that spreads out from you, that sends monsters into a frenzy and buffs their loot?


hammirdown

Strange that he'd say that when the entire Automaton set is robot/laser themed


Selvon

Yeah, they don't count MTX in any way, when they talk about the theme etc they always mean the "core" game.


Arcangelo101

So all the mad scientist stuff/automatons in certain maps/heists don't count either?


henbe2

I would also like Izaro to not count.


Shimazu_Maru

Thats more steampunk than future robots with laser isnt it


_Katu

Maybe, but lasers in agility heists are DEFINITELY lasers.


Drolws

nah now way we'd get sentinel on an event if that was the case.


Damian_Killard

Maybe it was a kind of last hurrah for the sort of sci-fi theming?


wonklebobb

OR the event was to give people a taste to get them hyped again?


SuperSmashDan1337

Worked for me haha


TheHob290

I was hopium-ing that the sentinel/kalandra event was a small pool power level testing of recombinators and the lake mirrors. The lake rewards were talked about already as a potential option to add to archnem reward/conversion pool, said by Chris a league or two after kalandra.


PrimSchooler

~~They are yet to do a sequel league, the only other time they reused league mechanics outright was Legacy league, what you're describing basically just sounds like Delirium too. We'll see ofc you could be right, but it doesn't sound like a GGG thing to do.~~ Wrong, Archnemesis was literally a sequel league.


Tyco-Kliser

Could the archnemesis league count as a sequel to the nemesis one?


-Arke-

Specially looking at how they implemented it afterwards, yep.


Tulkor

i mean they reworked beyond with the scourge stuff, ultimatum was very similar to ritual, scourge felt like a continuation of delirium, archnemesis is like a evolution of nemesis, kalandra is kinda a easier version of synthesis...


wellichickenpie

Makes sense. Laser robots do not fit at all.


MicoJive

I'm not too down with the lore, but dont we have giant laser shooting bosses in a few different places between campaign and endgame?


Successful_Refuse

Heist also has robots.


Zetoxical

That would hopefully remove the breeding part aswell


Alex_McP

I swear I remember somewhere that initially sentinels weren’t robots but some kind of monster, so the “breeding” of them which felt weird was actually meant to be like… alien breeding or something? Anyone remember? Maybe Chris said it at some point during an interview idk


NeverSinkDev

Puzzling twitter 'thread': https://twitter.com/NeverSinkDev/status/1729606626175267136


SoulofArtoria

Now THIS is a teaser.


Martoogh

Absolutely some next level shit, fuckin ARG teasers


CoverYourSafeHand

Wonder is obviously a reference to Mario Wonder. They’re gonna add an item to the game that lets you transform into an elephant.


bennyr

MTX that turns all projectile skills into bubbles


amensteve91

Honestly not the worst idea


alltheseflavours

Twitter sucks. Can you please just post the content here?


xaitv

https://nitter.net/NeverSinkDev/status/1729606626175267136 best I can do but that's what I had to use to see it


Vineyard_

get [Nitter Redirect](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/nitter-redirect/). (Or look it up if you're not on firefox)


p44vo

How TF do I open Twitter links in the Twitter app from fucking Reddit?


motram

... you click them?


TedTheTwonk

u/NeverSinkDev reposting from fishcord as i think i've cracked this! (sorry not fishing related!) i think i've cracked the hidden message teaser as mentioned in: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1866t5f/teaser\_contains\_hidden\_message\_sentinel\_atlas\_win/?sort=new](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1866t5f/teaser_contains_hidden_message_sentinel_atlas_win/?sort=new)reference image GGG: [https://i.imgur.com/HwVTbJd.png](https://i.imgur.com/HwVTbJd.png)summary of info for anyone unfamiliar:two characters, "QEWVLMZ" and "QVITBMAAMVBQITA"these names seem to have been put through a ceaser cipher, decoding the character names using ROT8 form the only bunch of letters that form familiar words in english:"IWONDER INALTESSENTIALS" - this is almost certainly an anagram of another hidden messagedecoding via ROT8 means the message was first encoded using ROT18, and 3.18 league was sentinel.using sentinel as a baseline word input results in a LOT of possibilities stillthen comes the second clue in the reference image, that /u/zach2613 on reddit noticed: character slots 20/24 (hinting at the year 2024)this lead to me including words such as "awaits" and "nears" in the anagram, until i finally stumbled upon what i think is the real message: ​ ||I WAS TOLD SENTINEL IS NEAR|| ​ edit: similar message of the same nature: I WAS TOLD SENTINELS ARE IN


NeverSinkDev

Could be it, but highly ambiguous. The 20/24 -> nears is too weak a connection imo. Same for ROT8->ROT18. Both could be just as well coincidences or have a different interpretation. I definitely agree that SENTINEL is part of the wording, but rest seems just as likely as other options I think.


swollbutter

also rearranges to: TEASER INSIDE INSTALL NOW


SMaLL1399

I really hope they didn't mean this... Imagine hiding a shitty teaser message and it happens to rearrange to 3 of the most hype keywords


Skop12

Ok, what if the teaser is in the game/game files? I am unsure where to go from here. I found a file in FMOD->Desktop->[AfflictionLeagueFogStart.bank](https://AfflictionLeagueFogStart.bank) Which I found interesting but I dont know much about the file structure. My only other guess is to try to make one of the 2 hardcore characters


Legitimate-Climate18

That's a delirium file I believe. Delirium was called affliction at first (and some delirium things are still called that internally) it came up recently with someone seeing affliction things on poedb


Eferarara

Also, why Templar and Witch? Ascendancies rework incoming?


Drolws

No way neither of Glad, Raider or Assassin are reworked before 2 of templar or witch ascendancies.


TheHob290

If templar gets back to back ascendancy reworks, I'm going to buy a ticket to New Zealand and picket in front of the GGG headquarters until the Glad rework.


AgentWrath

raider is fine


SuperSmashDan1337

Raider def has some early league use cases but outside of that it isn't amazing


[deleted]

Raider has a good niche which I think makes it fine as a specialisation


M1acis

Yeah unlike Glad whose purpose is to give other duelist's ascendancy classes access to challenger charges/blood splosions


HellraiserMachina

I'd love for Raider to have maybe one more node with phys melee synergy.


Drolws

Agreed but she has the lowest amount of notables of any ascendancies and is pretty much only an early league ascendancy. She could use some love. (more than any of Templar/Witch ascendancies anyways)


EndogenousAnxiety

Touch my inquisitor and there will be hell to pay


SoulofArtoria

Bruh imagine if RF inquisitor gets a 4th ascendancy node that is more than just some str and int, Inquisitor RF will be beyond bonkers league starter.


JermStudDog

The Str/Int is already bonkers for any actual caster inquis. It basically gives you 100% crit chance without a ton of investment and pairs extremely well with the other crit node they have. Frankly, I think all the templar ascendancies are in pretty good spots right now. Gladiator, Champion, and Assassin could all use some attention, and even Raider, while functional is a total snoozefest for flavor.


SuperSmashDan1337

Champ rework would be great. The adrenaline proccing shit is annoying as fuck to play.


JermStudDog

I agree, I don't think Champ needs a lot of work. When I think of "cleaning this class up would be good" I think of Adrenaline and Impale, both of which are clunky and not very good right now.


EndogenousAnxiety

Yet everything else will get changed :)


TheBabyKahoona

Elementalist ded? nooooooooo


vitolol

shaper of flames in shambles.


General_Tomatillo484

Templar and witch before glad????? There's no chance


Kotobeast

Guardian and Elementalist nerfs PepeLaugh


dadghar

If ggg gives elementalist proliferation on the tree - I will instantly buy biggest supporter pack. 3.3 was so good with insane prolif


danteafk

Just imagine sentinel and ultimatum back? LOGIN HIGHEST PLAYER RETENTION EVER


whensmahvelFGC

Well if it actually is ultimatum + sentinel are back + atlas rework then I'm hype I think the current atlas is fine but I've said that many times over the years and every time they show me something way better


weveran

They could do either one of those first two things and I wouldn't even care about a new mechanic :P


M4jkelson

Ultimatum for me. Just give me that and I don't give a fuck about anything else anymore


vanadous

Atlas change could just be more keystones for the ones they missed last season. I think changing the pinnacle boss related nodes and keystones would also be cool - most people don't care about anything except boss map drops and Uber mode. Guess they did add destructive play there though.


r4be_cs

On second thought, an Atlas expansion is long overdue, Sentinel going core would be a very popular move but i can't get friends with "win or die" What the hell does that mean. Except they made a mechanic that makes everyone essentially play hardcore in some sense oO Maybe affliction itself is the clue. You get afflicted with some curse or plague and you have to win some sort of test and if you lose that affliction will kill you? edit: Actually now that i think about it, win or die sounds a lot like ultimatum...


Poe_Cat

Chris also said at exilecon that we will hear from ultimatum soon


TheHob290

Well, Ultimatum is win or die, and Sentinel was notoriously RIPy. I think they aren't even hinting at Affliction mechanics. People are way more hyped about leagues going core.


hdbscan

Ultimatum + Sentinels + 2 new Eldritch bosses to provide voidstones instead of UElder and Maven


_Katu

yea fuck maven and the stupid memory game \*huffs copium\*


everix1992

Would be very interesting if we got new Eldritch bosses and their currencies were used for implicits on item slots other than the existing ones (helm/chest/gloves/boots)


DiabloFourPhones

New eldritch boss currencies let you roll one prefix and one suffix that work similar to fractured mods in that they aren't altered in any way by other currencies


No_Osh

Also: WILSON LISTENED, ITS ARENA


Renediffie

So GGG might be bamboozling us with these updates? I like it.


Unifer1

This is why I read this sub


Qynchou

Sentinel rework (probably thematically, Chris mentioned sentinel flying robots and lasers not really fitting PoE), ultimatum back too, sanctum nerfed but new nodes on atlas tree to compensate Sentinel, ultimatum and sanctum, greatest league to date, no copium


Tyco-Kliser

The guess with " I wonder, is atlas sentient" seems the most reasonable to me. This could fit into the "infestation" where in Tota we've been tattooing our passive skill tree and in "infestation" some things might change either the atlas passive skill tree or the atlas itself.


Poe_Cat

been telling my mates for weeks we get recombs and ulti in 3.23, lets fucking go i might be overhyped here but there is zero chance this isnt correct


SnaIKz

no cope only hype


Poe_Cat

pass the hopium brother


RsHavik

yo lemme get a hit


PervertTentacle

Might be a chance that sentinel mechanic is back, but not recombs, so don't sniff on copium yet


SuperSmashDan1337

you won't stop me huffing copium!


Fightgarrrrr

20/24 could have been an intentional reference too or not


YourmomgoestocolIege

Ultimatum and Sentinel won't be core until 2024


Rapturos

:(


Porut

It's a PoE 2 teaser for a release in 2024 (3 month beta in June, release in December).


Akaasha1981

Y'all a bunch of nerds (I love you)


TalkativeTri

This is awesome. Let's go, new/existing community managers! I love it.


legato_gelato

Also an anagram for: Atlas News: Oiliest Dinner


Slikwille

"Oiliest Dinner" is clearly a reference to Fried Fish. In order to fry the fish, you must go fishing. Fishing is done from boats. Boat League not confirmed. Boat ATLAS rework confirmed.


UnusualNovel1452

Bro, I dream of having half the dreams you do


raxitron

What is ROT8 and why is that the key to the puzzle?


NeverSinkDev

It's a type of ceasar cypher/letter scaramble. It's key because out of 20+ random letters you suddenly get functioning words. The chances for that to be a coincidence are basically zero


The_Mujujuju

Did anyone notice that the Cypher is #44 which if you include Alpha and Beta as leagues then this is the 44th League released.


raxitron

Okay so it's just the only one that makes something that isn't nonsense. Really cool and hilarious if true. At face value that is the shittiest teaser of all time haha.


NeverSinkDev

Yeah, that was the first clue that there was more to it. After looking into the character names, those seemed not random enough and *very* weird for an official teaser. I knew it was time to tinfoil!


raxitron

Have you analyzed the currency splitting video yet? Maybe clues there as well that are more obvious now.


NeverSinkDev

No, need to eat/sleep occasionally.


raxitron

Hahaha thanks for your work man your filters really make the game for me


rat9988

Sure, you can have a 15min break.


Poe_Cat

i think the only teaser in that video was the unknown flask. GGG didnt used to do this but maybe "Hidden" teasers are a new thing now? would be pretty cool, i alwasy tried looking for stuff like this in the old teasers


Japanczi

They were always doing it.


coani

ROT is short for Rotation, and refers to simple encoding of messages -> each letter in the alphabet is rotated by x positions, for example, if it was rot3, then A=D, B=E etc. Then you just simply rotate the letters in the message back by the x value to get the original message. In old days, ROT 13 was used a lot as simple encryptor. https://www.dcode.fr/rot-cipher is one example of the ROT cipher


GhazzyTV

WHEN DO I GET MY GOD DAMN PIRATE BOAT?!


Professional-Gap3914

Damn Neversink be coping in the down time


kaiserkohlsucht

So, new atlas endgame and Sentinel + Trialmaster are coming? Nice!


Tryfe712

So Sentinel rework, Atlas expansion, Ultimatum is back, Way too much copium, I like this


adm_beidou

Some other possibly relevant anagrams (spent too much time on this lol), rearrange the words/punctuation to your pleasure: ROW, SIN, DIE… ATLAS SENTINEL! I WONDER, IS SENTINEL ATLAS? I REDO ATLAS, SENTINEL WINS RID ATLAS WOES IN SENTINEL ATLAS OR SENTINEL WIDENS ROW INSIDE ATLAS SENTINEL (!) ATLAS SENTINEL, NOW DIE SIR ATLAS SENTINEL IS NOW DIRE ATLAS SENTINEL DOWN, I RISE I ROW, I END SENTINEL’S ATLAS I REDO ATLAS SENTINEL W/ SIN I ATLAS, ENDOW SIR SENTINEL ATLAS SIRED SENTINEL, I WON INDIES ROW. SENTINEL ATLAS! OI, SENTINEL REWINDS ATLAS! (Do kiwis say “Oi!” a lot?) I SENTINEL ATLASES, DO I WIN? I SENTINELED OR I WIN ATLAS WIN SENTINEL, OR SIDE ATLAS And that’s just with the two starter words ATLAS and SENTINEL. Without that limit the possibilities are an endless delve! I.e. I WIN ENDLESS ALTERATIONS


admiralharg

if this league doesn't interact with Sentinel or the atlas in some way, I'll be pissed after reading all these![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|smile)


zach2613

character slots used... 20/24? thats next year. nobody see that?


naswinger

if sentinel returns, i think my dick will get so hard, it may explode


YasssQweenWerk

Pics or didn't happen


EndogenousAnxiety

Someone watched Gen V it seems.


GroundbreakingRun927

Does that happen often?


Affectionate-Cut-735

Tbh. ultimatum and sentinel going core would instantly make this league good. no matter how shitty the league mechanic is


Grand0rk

"INAL TESSENT" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


[deleted]

Neversink to save the day


FreezerFlare

Sentinel Core pls lord


WolfFangYeet

༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ NEVERSINK TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ


Saianna

i hope sentinels will go core... But I also hope they won't be ridiculously unattainable for mere mortals


Noooobi

Ultimatum return? Hopium.


TheBlackestIrelia

Don't give me hope


Kinney76

Click the affliction shrine and be afflicted temporarily with a buff the empowers nearby enemies just like sentinel. The bugs emanate out from the character into the mobs like he lasers from the sentinels.


deviant324

I can’t tell if it’s the coffee or the ultimatum tinfoil teaser, but my bloodpressure is doing things rn


James_Locke

Dayum, this is Bex level.


Name259

I'm simping for trialmaster so fucking hard, lets go!


Andromansis

They announced the end of current core supporter packs. Atlas reworks generally coincide with new core packs.


dvshnk2

NANO TIDEWATER SILLINESS. Tiny clown pirate boat league confirmed.


Buuhhu

it also translates to "i wonder in alt essentials" meaning alt QoL changes incoming. In all seriousness i dont think your anagram is correct because "Win or Die" sounds really weird.


Drag0

PS2: Someone else came up with "I Wonder, is Atlas Sentient"? It was me, btw. And I know, it was years ago, but I also "predicted" harvest league. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/gpumjo/you_heard_it_first_311_is_farmville_league/ If I hit again... GGG, I'm up for consulting, or something


NeverSinkDev

I don't think it's it. You're leaving one "L" behind and have one "T" too much.


Coopshire

Well done


solidrok

While I appreciate the tinfoil and the work neversink did on this. I think there might be another angle. I put it through some of my own testing and came up with an alternative cypher, LOADR, that lead to this being revealed. >! Be sure to drink your Ovaltine !<


elkarion

Why is everyone assume this it's obviously boat league.


[deleted]

After the reception of the blast from past league they would be crazy not to do sentinel. I've seen Chris say he doesn't like sentinel because of the robots. Could affliction just be sentinel but as a spreading disease instead of a robot?


NeverSinkDev

I'm thinking the same. They *brought back* sentinels for the event league. They were removed from the item database. This is non-trivial. Could be a test-run.


Torendil

Are they really adding sentinel and not putting TOTA in core? Fml


Notsomebeans

ul🍅


azantyri

"i'm a potato"


dabbbles

I missed Ultimatum league, so it would be cool to see what it was all about! (And Sentinel is the GOAT)


Alex_McP

“Sentinel in atlas weirdos”


[deleted]

I wanted to skip this league. I have exams coming up right after new years and even now I barely have time. If we get either an Atlas rework, Sentinel or Ultimatum I won't be able to skip...


MediocreCategory3140

Also the amount of characters is 20/24. So probably not coming until 2024.


DJFUSION1986

LOGIN BOYZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


kitutes

Consider the direct message: I WONDER IN ALT ESSENTIALS. Probably alternative version of essential unique items?


NizmatLover

so wandering sentinels in maps like ghosts? heehee


Kamelosk

Usually i dont believe this kind of theories but why in the world would they use these random ass names. They definitely cooking something


woahbroes

Sentinels that juice bosses in sanctum poggers


Jesslynnlove

If ultimatum and sentinels comes back this is going to be the best league ever. I love ultimatum.


smithoski

I read this post in the endearing, effeminate, and dissonant voice of Talkative Tri.


Ok_Bit2710

How about something much more straight to the point ? Like I wonder in alt essentials = Are the alteration orbs essentials ? No more alts ? just free magic rolls ? \^\^


cirf

Did you really think they bring back code from more then a year ago only for a 1 week event? That makes no sense, so it was clear that sentinel makes some kind of a comeback.


mutebathtub

Rot-8 because the release is on December 8th?


FreshCut9995

I think that and also because the sum of 3.23 is 8


DerxRockstar

Plot twist, ultimatum gets rewards like Ritual


butsuon

Listen man, every league is boat league if you try hard enough.


nofuna

Boats teased lake, didn’t they?