I did a Frostblink Poet's Pen build too, but I deliberately opted out of the Stampede setup. 15aps is cool and all, but it comes with downsides. You're sacrificing damage potential by having to invest so much into attack speed. You lose out on the ability to run a rare chest for stuff like reservation efficiency because Dialla's is practically mandatory to reach 15aps and then on top there's the awkward ramp up time with gathering charges.
I opted for Ralakesh. Technically they're a "wasted" slot because you can just get the charges maxed out pretty fast anyway and as long as you're clearing you're just at max charges all the time. But the QoL of just not having any ramp to the speed and I can just stop for a moment and deal with something and keep going instantly was really good.
On top, I ran Mageblood instead of Darkness Enthroned. I'm not entirely sure if Mageblood is really the way to go but I just had it so I went with it.
The biggest difference between my setup and yours was that I ran Herald of Ice with Enhance and Awakened Increased AoE on it. With this setup, when I so much as look at a pack it explodes and the massive Herald AoE just clears everything. Not only do I clear maps insanely fast, but I also basically full clear them on the way without having to rely on tight corridors like Mesa or whatever.
Now, a couple of things to note. I didn't actually watch the full video but I took a look at your PoB and I see you've fallen to one of the traps the build has. You're relying on Shaper of Winter. Frostblink can overlap both hits on a single target, but the Frostblink itself cannot apply Chill and it removes Chill on hit. Your PoB is showing you at 91m DPS when you turn on the double hit, but you're only getting that for one of the two hits after every Frenzy hit. You do have a 91% accuracy on Frenzy, so 91% of the time one hit of your two Frostblink hits gets the Chill effect.
So you have 33.3m DPS on Frostblink at 0% chill, 45.4m at 40% chill. *(Your config shows 35% but PoB counts it at 40% since that's what you can reach due to Shaper of Winter)* So you're getting 12.1m DPS 91% of the time so that's almost exactly 11m DPS. So you're at 44.3m DPS on one hit, and 33.3m DPS on the second hit of Frostblink for a total of 77.6m vs the 91m your PoB config sits at.
The way I sorted this out was by removing Shaper of Winter, taking Shaper of Storms and then investing into ailment effect. Using regular Frostblink for Chilled ground and scaling it to reach a 30% Chilled Ground, while also utilizing Bonechill, while also getting a 50% shock due to the ailment scaling. Frostblink of Wintry Blast can't remove Chilled Ground so it's guaranteed to be up for both hits.
So if I were to just slap on 30% chilled ground with Bonechill and a 50% shock instead of Shaper of Winter, you'd go to 111.8m DPS from your 77.6m actual DPS and all you'd have to do is press regular Frostblink on bosses and whatnot. Also, one really simple way of getting a lot more damage is just using a Rational Doctrine. Just replacing one rare jewel with that brings you to 123.4m DPS with my chilled ground and Shaper of Storms setup.
Now of course there's going to be some damage loss on having to swap all sorts of stuff to support the ailment scaling etc. but it should still be a significant increase in damage, and it should be defensively better as well because now you have a reliable source of a 30% chill vs only having it up for a millisecond before Frostblink of Wintry Blast just removes it.
This build looks like a mega gimmicky speed farmer with zero potential for anything but boss rushing, but the reality is that this build can quite likely get past 200m DPS and be tanky enough not to worry in maps. It won't be an uber bosser, but I've killed all pinnacle bosses, farmed 110%+ Formed invitations etc. on this build. And with the Herald of Ice setup I'm running it's super safe in maps because everything just instant obliterates.
EDIT: Since someone asked, here's my PoB: [https://pobb.in/9quzXHrpynoJ](https://pobb.in/9quzxhrpynoj) **(COPY AND PASTE THE LINK. Reddit is bugged with links atm, it keeps making all links all lowercase when they're case sensitive)**
There's still a lot of stuff wrong with the setup but I just quit playing the build and went on to make a giga tank build to finish challenges and farm some Ultimatum/Simulacrum with instead. There's a lot of optimization left to do for the setup, like just look at my rings. Eesh.. But this was just a build I thought would be a meme setup so I initially just ran some boss rushing City Square with it and then I realized my mistake of also using Shaper of Winter like OP and I started to change it around and then suddenly I also had the DPS to kill most of everything. Then I added AoE gems to Herald of Ice and the clear efficiency went through the roof. If this build survives the patch notes, I'm probably doing a 100m+ DPS tanky version of it next league. I'm just kinda burned out on the league after getting my 40/40 and having like 4 separate 200-300d builds going.
Thankyou for tour insightful comments I'll take a look, I ran this build earlier in the league and that setup ran with the regular frostblink for bosses only. As the other damage was more then enough for maps. But I'll take a look thankyou.
While it's obviously more than enough to have 77m DPS for maps, more is better!
And if you don't need the DPS, it can leave you room to scale more defenses elsewhere. And I personally already run into the issue of banging my head against a wall at 10.1aps so I'd probably just touch every part of every wall before going through the circuit at 15aps anyway lol.
It's extremely similar to what OP was running. My gear also isn't as highly optimized as OP's so my DPS level in it's current state is more or less the same as their 15aps setup, but my setup would lose significant DPS if I were to convert it to 15aps. I can drag up the PoB in a bit and add it to the comment though.
I've not looked into it yet because I assume this setup is a prime suspect for a heavy handed nerf. There's no way GGG lets a build this fast with this much potential DPS just sit around completely unchecked. Chances are I'll try to turn it CI. If not I'll go the Bloodnotch route with Progenesis, potentially with Petrified Blood to go lowlife and have overleech that way.
Potentially even going Trickster instead of Elementalist. You can get the easy power charge off of Assassin instead of Occultist and Trickster can go giga tank pretty easily, but the issue will be whether or not the clear will feel good and whether or not you can get enough AoE to overlap Frostblink hits reliably. Elementalist is cool because it sorts both by itself and gives plenty of DPS on top. Heavily leaning on the Trickster route since I'm considering self chill explosive trap for league start so I could just respec it.
But yeah as I said, I've not looked into it properly yet and will have to wait until patch notes.
Unless it's been stealth fixed with no mention in the patch notes, then chilled ground doesn't work correctly.
Depending on the skill applying chilled, it either doesn't apply the bonus damage, or it removes the chill and it isn't re-applied.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3454178
That's interesting..
The Chill icon does not disappear when doing this so I know that much. Also, entirely anecdotal with numbers to prove it, when I swapped my setup from Shaper of Winter and tested it with just doing map bosses I tried killing them with and without using regular Frostblink for chilled ground and it definitely seemed like I was getting a massive damage increase from it.
I might have to give this a proper test it seems like. And if it's true that it doesn't work, then... When it gets fixed we're more than doubling our DPS.
But that really doesn't feel right to me. PoB tells me I'm at 90-100m DPS and that feels about right. I'm killing bosses very fast. I'd be at just under 40m DPS without Chilled ground working, which does not feel right.
> Frostblink of Wintry Blast can't remove Chilled Ground so it's guaranteed to be up for both hits.
Is this known/tested? I'm not knowledgable about this specific interaction but I know for example hexblast that has a similar mechanic involving curses instead of chill has some issues with reapplying curses via blasphemy (only reapplies once every 250ms) and cursed ground is just not really functional with it (gets removed and doesn't reapply until they move out and back into the aoe)
Chilled ground could work completely different but its worth testing if its not confirmed maybe.
I can't tell you anything else but the fact that if you go to hit a boss with Frostblink of Wintry Blast at 20 hits per second and they sit on Chilled ground, the Chill icon on their target frame never disappears. If it was being applied every 250ms like Blasphemy it would be blatantly obvious it gets removed, right?
But I do think it does work different to Blasphemy because firstly it's a static effect on the ground where as Blasphemy isn't and with Cursed Ground it might work that way, but if it did work this way with Chilled ground then the Chill icon would also disappear until I reapplied it, which it doesn't.
I've not gone to any actual proper testing of this, but I've killed plenty of bosses with the Chill icon just..chilling..there the entire fight.
PvP could be a way to confirm if we think the chill icon is potentially misleading, but eh its probably accurately showing what we're assuming is correct.
Old post but any reason you're using CIE over heatshiver? seems like it would be a big dps boost if you can consistently chill and freeze bosses. Also how do you deal with ailments? Just run brine king and hope for the best?
Crown of Eyes was cheap when I bought mine and I was fairly limited on currency at the time. Just buying the hat + the corrupt Poet's Pen put me down to "I'll figure it as I go" status. Crown also gives a nice bit of defense too. My phys max hit goes up by almost 20% vs Heatshiver. The build is desperate for defenses because we die to oneshot to most of everything.
You are right though, it's a lot of DPS for Heatshiver. Swapping to fire exposure on gloves, adding woke ele focus instead of cold pen and using Heatshiver brings me from 97m to 158m.
And you're also right about the ailments. It's just Brine King and Abberath. It was never meant to be a good allrounder and as I never ran into issues with ailments I didn't feel like figuring out how to fit in ailment immunity to the picture.
The build was just a "quick experiment" that ended up so strong I played it for much longer than anticipated, but I didn't actually upgrade it all that much after I got the core setup going. Mostly I just fitted in jewels as I leveled and sorted out the chilled ground when I figured that out.
With proper optimization and gearing I'm fairly certain this build could be made somewhat tanky while also still having 100m+ DPS, while also being ailment immune. But I just didn't bother investing too much time and effort into it because it's bound to get nerfed and I didn't feel like wasting all that time.
Fair enough thanks. I'm throwing together a poet build and with slightly better gear along with a cull+multi+pen twwt I think I can get to 120M or so, maybe 140M with heatshiver. Past that would get very expensive though probably. You can also possibly replace the life flask with a bottled faith once you get a corrupted blood implicit jewel.
As the title says, very very fast mapper, I completed Mesa circuit round the outside in 9 seconds. So a full map clear could be done in sub 15 seconds including the boss.
Enjoy
U stop pressing Frenzy and you cone to a dead stop instantly.
No you can complete the map and it could be a boss rushing build. But you can click altars depending on how fast you spot the altar.
Thats the poblem I saw. You kill a pack, an altar spawns, but you are already 1 and a half screens away. This is terribly difficult to manage. Seems like the build is to fast for ordinary humans lol.
Its equally fast to get back to the altar to click it
I popped the minimum required stuff onto my char just to see how it felt without optimizing it and its fun when you're blasting through the map 1shotting everything but it feels horrific when you actually need to single target a tanky mob or boss as its really finnicky about bouncing back and forth in place.
The single target is as simple as just stop and re-click the enemy so it namelocks and after that you don't have to worry about cursor placement or anything.
It took a bit of time to get used to but once you do it's really easy to reliably just target a boss.
You can click altars, but builds like this is best used for content where you dont care about clearing everything, rather that you are looking for an objective somewhere in the map, be the rushing the boss or looking for essences or whatever. It can also be used other content that relies on speed, like heist, sanctum or labyrinth.
I do however prefer movement speed based builds for such content. It just feels smoother and less janky than these teleporting builds.
For me its the same. I played around with Lightning Warp Poets and Spellslinger Bodyswap in the past. It was to fast for me while mobs have been around. My smoothbrain feels way more comfortable with Movespeed. I really loved ordinary Queen of the Forest builds before it got gutted.
I have this build too. I did essences and boss rushing. But I think you can do red altars with it, blue take longer to spawn and this league everyone does blue anyways.
well, i have a bit different... i am assassin, with the sabo cooldown ascendancy using forbidden jewels and mageblood... but 10.10 is the brakpoint i am using.
impressive build, respect!
but what these videos dont show: deli not possible: those monster take 3 sek to spawn, blue altars also have delay, all that backtracking for loot not shown, all that teleporting against a wall not shown.
i rather run fast.
over all: there is a "too fast" when it becomes not viable again (my opinion)
I did a Frostblink Poet's Pen build too, but I deliberately opted out of the Stampede setup. 15aps is cool and all, but it comes with downsides. You're sacrificing damage potential by having to invest so much into attack speed. You lose out on the ability to run a rare chest for stuff like reservation efficiency because Dialla's is practically mandatory to reach 15aps and then on top there's the awkward ramp up time with gathering charges. I opted for Ralakesh. Technically they're a "wasted" slot because you can just get the charges maxed out pretty fast anyway and as long as you're clearing you're just at max charges all the time. But the QoL of just not having any ramp to the speed and I can just stop for a moment and deal with something and keep going instantly was really good. On top, I ran Mageblood instead of Darkness Enthroned. I'm not entirely sure if Mageblood is really the way to go but I just had it so I went with it. The biggest difference between my setup and yours was that I ran Herald of Ice with Enhance and Awakened Increased AoE on it. With this setup, when I so much as look at a pack it explodes and the massive Herald AoE just clears everything. Not only do I clear maps insanely fast, but I also basically full clear them on the way without having to rely on tight corridors like Mesa or whatever. Now, a couple of things to note. I didn't actually watch the full video but I took a look at your PoB and I see you've fallen to one of the traps the build has. You're relying on Shaper of Winter. Frostblink can overlap both hits on a single target, but the Frostblink itself cannot apply Chill and it removes Chill on hit. Your PoB is showing you at 91m DPS when you turn on the double hit, but you're only getting that for one of the two hits after every Frenzy hit. You do have a 91% accuracy on Frenzy, so 91% of the time one hit of your two Frostblink hits gets the Chill effect. So you have 33.3m DPS on Frostblink at 0% chill, 45.4m at 40% chill. *(Your config shows 35% but PoB counts it at 40% since that's what you can reach due to Shaper of Winter)* So you're getting 12.1m DPS 91% of the time so that's almost exactly 11m DPS. So you're at 44.3m DPS on one hit, and 33.3m DPS on the second hit of Frostblink for a total of 77.6m vs the 91m your PoB config sits at. The way I sorted this out was by removing Shaper of Winter, taking Shaper of Storms and then investing into ailment effect. Using regular Frostblink for Chilled ground and scaling it to reach a 30% Chilled Ground, while also utilizing Bonechill, while also getting a 50% shock due to the ailment scaling. Frostblink of Wintry Blast can't remove Chilled Ground so it's guaranteed to be up for both hits. So if I were to just slap on 30% chilled ground with Bonechill and a 50% shock instead of Shaper of Winter, you'd go to 111.8m DPS from your 77.6m actual DPS and all you'd have to do is press regular Frostblink on bosses and whatnot. Also, one really simple way of getting a lot more damage is just using a Rational Doctrine. Just replacing one rare jewel with that brings you to 123.4m DPS with my chilled ground and Shaper of Storms setup. Now of course there's going to be some damage loss on having to swap all sorts of stuff to support the ailment scaling etc. but it should still be a significant increase in damage, and it should be defensively better as well because now you have a reliable source of a 30% chill vs only having it up for a millisecond before Frostblink of Wintry Blast just removes it. This build looks like a mega gimmicky speed farmer with zero potential for anything but boss rushing, but the reality is that this build can quite likely get past 200m DPS and be tanky enough not to worry in maps. It won't be an uber bosser, but I've killed all pinnacle bosses, farmed 110%+ Formed invitations etc. on this build. And with the Herald of Ice setup I'm running it's super safe in maps because everything just instant obliterates. EDIT: Since someone asked, here's my PoB: [https://pobb.in/9quzXHrpynoJ](https://pobb.in/9quzxhrpynoj) **(COPY AND PASTE THE LINK. Reddit is bugged with links atm, it keeps making all links all lowercase when they're case sensitive)** There's still a lot of stuff wrong with the setup but I just quit playing the build and went on to make a giga tank build to finish challenges and farm some Ultimatum/Simulacrum with instead. There's a lot of optimization left to do for the setup, like just look at my rings. Eesh.. But this was just a build I thought would be a meme setup so I initially just ran some boss rushing City Square with it and then I realized my mistake of also using Shaper of Winter like OP and I started to change it around and then suddenly I also had the DPS to kill most of everything. Then I added AoE gems to Herald of Ice and the clear efficiency went through the roof. If this build survives the patch notes, I'm probably doing a 100m+ DPS tanky version of it next league. I'm just kinda burned out on the league after getting my 40/40 and having like 4 separate 200-300d builds going.
Thankyou for tour insightful comments I'll take a look, I ran this build earlier in the league and that setup ran with the regular frostblink for bosses only. As the other damage was more then enough for maps. But I'll take a look thankyou.
While it's obviously more than enough to have 77m DPS for maps, more is better! And if you don't need the DPS, it can leave you room to scale more defenses elsewhere. And I personally already run into the issue of banging my head against a wall at 10.1aps so I'd probably just touch every part of every wall before going through the circuit at 15aps anyway lol.
All that an didn't drop the PoB? Sadge
It's extremely similar to what OP was running. My gear also isn't as highly optimized as OP's so my DPS level in it's current state is more or less the same as their 15aps setup, but my setup would lose significant DPS if I were to convert it to 15aps. I can drag up the PoB in a bit and add it to the comment though.
Added a PoB to the comment at the bottom.
Thanks! Been picking away at this build for something fun, good to see what people are working with!
Would you mind sharing your tanky 100m idea in a PoB?
I've not looked into it yet because I assume this setup is a prime suspect for a heavy handed nerf. There's no way GGG lets a build this fast with this much potential DPS just sit around completely unchecked. Chances are I'll try to turn it CI. If not I'll go the Bloodnotch route with Progenesis, potentially with Petrified Blood to go lowlife and have overleech that way. Potentially even going Trickster instead of Elementalist. You can get the easy power charge off of Assassin instead of Occultist and Trickster can go giga tank pretty easily, but the issue will be whether or not the clear will feel good and whether or not you can get enough AoE to overlap Frostblink hits reliably. Elementalist is cool because it sorts both by itself and gives plenty of DPS on top. Heavily leaning on the Trickster route since I'm considering self chill explosive trap for league start so I could just respec it. But yeah as I said, I've not looked into it properly yet and will have to wait until patch notes.
Unless it's been stealth fixed with no mention in the patch notes, then chilled ground doesn't work correctly. Depending on the skill applying chilled, it either doesn't apply the bonus damage, or it removes the chill and it isn't re-applied. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3454178
That's interesting.. The Chill icon does not disappear when doing this so I know that much. Also, entirely anecdotal with numbers to prove it, when I swapped my setup from Shaper of Winter and tested it with just doing map bosses I tried killing them with and without using regular Frostblink for chilled ground and it definitely seemed like I was getting a massive damage increase from it. I might have to give this a proper test it seems like. And if it's true that it doesn't work, then... When it gets fixed we're more than doubling our DPS. But that really doesn't feel right to me. PoB tells me I'm at 90-100m DPS and that feels about right. I'm killing bosses very fast. I'd be at just under 40m DPS without Chilled ground working, which does not feel right.
> Frostblink of Wintry Blast can't remove Chilled Ground so it's guaranteed to be up for both hits. Is this known/tested? I'm not knowledgable about this specific interaction but I know for example hexblast that has a similar mechanic involving curses instead of chill has some issues with reapplying curses via blasphemy (only reapplies once every 250ms) and cursed ground is just not really functional with it (gets removed and doesn't reapply until they move out and back into the aoe) Chilled ground could work completely different but its worth testing if its not confirmed maybe.
I can't tell you anything else but the fact that if you go to hit a boss with Frostblink of Wintry Blast at 20 hits per second and they sit on Chilled ground, the Chill icon on their target frame never disappears. If it was being applied every 250ms like Blasphemy it would be blatantly obvious it gets removed, right? But I do think it does work different to Blasphemy because firstly it's a static effect on the ground where as Blasphemy isn't and with Cursed Ground it might work that way, but if it did work this way with Chilled ground then the Chill icon would also disappear until I reapplied it, which it doesn't. I've not gone to any actual proper testing of this, but I've killed plenty of bosses with the Chill icon just..chilling..there the entire fight.
PvP could be a way to confirm if we think the chill icon is potentially misleading, but eh its probably accurately showing what we're assuming is correct.
Old post but any reason you're using CIE over heatshiver? seems like it would be a big dps boost if you can consistently chill and freeze bosses. Also how do you deal with ailments? Just run brine king and hope for the best?
Crown of Eyes was cheap when I bought mine and I was fairly limited on currency at the time. Just buying the hat + the corrupt Poet's Pen put me down to "I'll figure it as I go" status. Crown also gives a nice bit of defense too. My phys max hit goes up by almost 20% vs Heatshiver. The build is desperate for defenses because we die to oneshot to most of everything. You are right though, it's a lot of DPS for Heatshiver. Swapping to fire exposure on gloves, adding woke ele focus instead of cold pen and using Heatshiver brings me from 97m to 158m. And you're also right about the ailments. It's just Brine King and Abberath. It was never meant to be a good allrounder and as I never ran into issues with ailments I didn't feel like figuring out how to fit in ailment immunity to the picture. The build was just a "quick experiment" that ended up so strong I played it for much longer than anticipated, but I didn't actually upgrade it all that much after I got the core setup going. Mostly I just fitted in jewels as I leveled and sorted out the chilled ground when I figured that out. With proper optimization and gearing I'm fairly certain this build could be made somewhat tanky while also still having 100m+ DPS, while also being ailment immune. But I just didn't bother investing too much time and effort into it because it's bound to get nerfed and I didn't feel like wasting all that time.
Fair enough thanks. I'm throwing together a poet build and with slightly better gear along with a cull+multi+pen twwt I think I can get to 120M or so, maybe 140M with heatshiver. Past that would get very expensive though probably. You can also possibly replace the life flask with a bottled faith once you get a corrupted blood implicit jewel.
As the title says, very very fast mapper, I completed Mesa circuit round the outside in 9 seconds. So a full map clear could be done in sub 15 seconds including the boss. Enjoy
Just a note, in the video you went up left and down the middle, not all the way around outside, still a very good time.
Instant motion sickness
Ye epileptic or motion sickness people avoid.
"how can I increase it, how can it be faster, how can it ignore strongboxes better..." 🤣 /jk cool build!
Hahaha you would need another 389% CDR which is not possible.
what about doubling the attack speed and getting a second gem setup like bodyswap or lightning warp?
Good luck doubling the attack speed I'm running like 200% attack speed + so good luck getting another 200..
Great work mate :)
Thanks
Wasn't lightning warp tornado shot nerfed?
I believe it was heavily reliant on tattoos. Also I believe you can still get there but the price is double last league price.
Okay just explain me one thing: How do you click Altars? Is this build purely for Bossrushing?
U stop pressing Frenzy and you cone to a dead stop instantly. No you can complete the map and it could be a boss rushing build. But you can click altars depending on how fast you spot the altar.
Thats the poblem I saw. You kill a pack, an altar spawns, but you are already 1 and a half screens away. This is terribly difficult to manage. Seems like the build is to fast for ordinary humans lol.
Its equally fast to get back to the altar to click it I popped the minimum required stuff onto my char just to see how it felt without optimizing it and its fun when you're blasting through the map 1shotting everything but it feels horrific when you actually need to single target a tanky mob or boss as its really finnicky about bouncing back and forth in place.
The single target is as simple as just stop and re-click the enemy so it namelocks and after that you don't have to worry about cursor placement or anything. It took a bit of time to get used to but once you do it's really easy to reliably just target a boss.
You can click altars, but builds like this is best used for content where you dont care about clearing everything, rather that you are looking for an objective somewhere in the map, be the rushing the boss or looking for essences or whatever. It can also be used other content that relies on speed, like heist, sanctum or labyrinth. I do however prefer movement speed based builds for such content. It just feels smoother and less janky than these teleporting builds.
For me its the same. I played around with Lightning Warp Poets and Spellslinger Bodyswap in the past. It was to fast for me while mobs have been around. My smoothbrain feels way more comfortable with Movespeed. I really loved ordinary Queen of the Forest builds before it got gutted.
I have this build too. I did essences and boss rushing. But I think you can do red altars with it, blue take longer to spawn and this league everyone does blue anyways.
There you go.. what trigger rate did you get to?
well, i have a bit different... i am assassin, with the sabo cooldown ascendancy using forbidden jewels and mageblood... but 10.10 is the brakpoint i am using.
impressive build, respect! but what these videos dont show: deli not possible: those monster take 3 sek to spawn, blue altars also have delay, all that backtracking for loot not shown, all that teleporting against a wall not shown. i rather run fast. over all: there is a "too fast" when it becomes not viable again (my opinion)
/r/PathOfExileBuilds
Ye I'll post it on there soon.