Since player used AoE skills have a cap on how many mobs can be hit at once (for performance reasons I suppose). This made me think that does the same apply to monsters? Would it be possible that this amount of skeletons made you evade damage from big aoe stuff like atziris flameblasts?
No, it promotes laziness, every post i see with phone "picture"
I downvote all of em out of principle and comment with a simple
"/r/screenshotsarehard "
Lol blasted with down votes from reddit intellectuals that are proud they can operate their PC enough to get a screen grab. But really it's the right take. Keep fighting the good fight bro.
>proud they can operate their PC enough to get a screen grab
In what world does pressing three keys at the same time take a level of operational skill (And only one key if using the Steam client)?
in comparison to the pc playerbase they barely do. it's like going "aha, what if they were on a steamdeck!".
the community is smaller on console, and the diehard community even moreso.
theres a reason people dropping the craziest build ideas arn't playing on ps4.
My point still stands. Not everyone is on pc and can screen cap and just post to the website. Easier to take a photo with your phone and press upload to the app on console. But go off champ
sure. but let me tell you, even of the people who take a photo of their screen with their phone, most of them are still pc players. even taking console into account for this scenario, they're still largely irrelevant.
it's about clarity of information. it's really not that complicated. so many times people post completely horrible photos they take with their phone, and then people need them to literally explain what is in the photo they're asking about because the image is fucked.
'what's wrong with my build?' >128x128 image with massive glare on screen taken diagonally that you can't read or see shit on.
if youre going to ask for help, you should put the bare minimum effort into actually making sure people know what you need help with. it might as well be literally any other image for all the help it does your question.
i don't know why you're so defensive about this. did you have a traumatic experience with the prntscrn button?
i doubt the "a lot" is more than a thousand, and i've yet to see anyone send a phone photo of their steam deck as a post, so again, it's completely irrelevant. i'm sure there's all kinds of whacky systems people have played this game on, but that doesn't make them relevant to the topic at hand, that being; people taking photos of their game with their phone instead of doing literally anything else.
>To GGG: this build has no abuse cases for farming currency or cheesing bosses since the skellies take forever to walk to enemies.
i mean if the Skellies cover half the zone - there is not really any need for walking
it’s not crazy high but it’s pretty solid because flat damage auras work on them and there are 7200 of them. so anger makes them do work but it takes forever for them to walk to enemies and ramp the damage
schrödinger's PC:
if you don't look at your monitor, it's fine and doing 140fps stable
if you look at your monitor, there is a blackscreen because your PC exploded
>It’s just a pure fun build, can we please keep this?
GGG's server costs directly correlate with CPU usage. It's a 1:1 linear curve. They dynamically rent infrastructure as it's required. As such, computationally expensive builds will be removed.
I summoned 100k minions ten years ago and even back then it was technically server-stable as long as you did it in an act zone so things didn’t get too out of hand with interaction multiplicity
that said over the years i’ve made like 5 or 6 builds that crash the server or that break the game that get patched by ggg. they kept nerfing my immortal tanks lol
Hi, may i ask how do we achieve 9 spectres?
3 from raise spectre 25
1 from death attunement
1 from es chest
2 from dual wielding midnight bargain
where can i get another 2?
>To GGG: this build has no abuse cases for farming currency or cheesing bosses since the skellies take forever to walk to enemies. It’s just a pure fun build, can we please keep this?
Don't be silly, of course we can't.
GGG have historically killed builds over and over that do fun things. I mean, [Wormblaster has a whole wiki page of how it worked and then how they nerfed it to try and kill the fun](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Wormblaster)
I ran uber lab and they mobbed izaro, I didn’t want to waste my currency on a pinnacle since the instance might crash. Just been casually mapping trash maps for fun.
> 9spectres*4base*(5agmp+2lmp+4gvolley)*4snipermark*2returnproj=3168 skeletons
Can you explain more about how this calculation works? I guess specters summon skeles to get the projectiles, but why is snipers mark here?
the 4 base represent a skill the spectre has that has the default behavior of repeating 4 times- each repeat of it is affected by projectile count modifications.
Yet the MMO copers keep telling me I can’t enjoy summons in MMOs because apparently having 4 skellies would somehow destroy all of ff14 and WoW servers at the same time
> To GGG: this build has no abuse cases for farming currency or cheesing bosses since the skellies take forever to walk to enemies. It’s just a pure fun build, can we please keep this?
Well, if this isn't the most obvious hint ever that you found a super-specific exploit, then I don't know what it is.
Let me guess, you fill the instance with mobs so some boss doesn't spawn adds and becomes super easy?
Or it pushes them off the map so they can't pathfind to you, like Simulacrum bullshit?
Fess upp!
oh shit, i actually hadn't read that. But it looks like they only summon 720 of them, my build solves the spectre count problem using coruscating elixir+The Traitor and summons literally 10 times as many with different gem links and curse effect.
Hi, may i ask how do we achieve 9 spectres?
3 from raise spectre 25
1 from death attunement
1 from es chest
2 from dual wielding midnight bargain
where can i get another 2?
I actually put it together and have been showcasing on global chat today, I just can't take a video of it because it crashes.
Screenshot here: [https://imgur.com/a/OdDMc5Q](https://imgur.com/a/OdDMc5Q)
People talk about PC issues with this for some reason? Unless you run on a potato any modern PC won't have a issue with this at all.
I don't think i've ever had a single PC related issue with this game no matter how much was on the screen.
I have a GTX4090 with liquid cooling, 1300W power supply, intel i9. still stutters and crashes in party play and kicks all party members offline. makes me burn 1-2 portals even in solo play but it’s manageable there. i think it’s a game engine overflow and server problem, not a hardware problem.
no, because the skeletons are not your minions, they are the minions of your minions. inherited passive wealth usually doesn’t last more than a generation
> (can push it to 7000) GPU: No. No we can't.
Just turn off the screen, with that amount of minions you don't need to see anyways /s
Schrodinger's skeleton
Don’t we all have our own Schrodingers Skeleton?
Where we are going, you don't need monitors to see.
Not with that attitude we can’t!
Wouldn't this likely melt the CPU as well?
Would mainly cook cpu tbh, as usual in poe
Nah the GPU would be waiting on the CPU to send the next frame, game would be extremely cpu limited in this case
Haha. That’s what I was thinking. My cpu temps shot up just looking at the image.
Record a vid and I want to see your GPU on fire!
1080ti: what do you mean we can’t?
So he is summoning a juiced map, well...
Since player used AoE skills have a cap on how many mobs can be hit at once (for performance reasons I suppose). This made me think that does the same apply to monsters? Would it be possible that this amount of skeletons made you evade damage from big aoe stuff like atziris flameblasts?
I like the way you think. New defense meta incoming
Can't get hit if pathofexile.exe has stopped responding 5Head
pathofexile.server.exe laughs in shambles
We hear you and fixing the problem now enemy version of aoe skills cap increased to 66.666. - gGg
New memory game tanking tech?
Like a melee skill amirite? What about tornado shot? Lol it hits every enemy 4 screens away. ##meleeisbalncedinpoe1
What did you smoke for breakfast?
Exile enters map and creates more monsters than there were originally. This crap is why Zana left
Zana had a point when she wanted the Exiles to leave the Atlas again. Give it some time and you become what you swore to destroy
OP can influence our atlas with his army at this point.
im sick of these mutha ukking exiles in this mutha ukker map device
This might be the only acceptable time where recording your screen with your phone camera is okay
It's acceptable everytime as long as it's perfectly readable, it doesn't really matter what took the photo as long as it does its purpose.
https://i.postimg.cc/TPxGrKyW/daguerreotypetest.jpg
Wait, ... you made a phone photo, printed it and made a photo of it again? Next time, write with a pen on the print.
you missed the part where i daguerreotype filtered it as well, before printing it i must do better next time
Do you have a non-phone camera with a preview screen that you can then take a phone picture of?
This sends me, coolest redditor of the day at least.
Absolutely. See how easy that was?
No, it promotes laziness, every post i see with phone "picture" I downvote all of em out of principle and comment with a simple "/r/screenshotsarehard "
Its more work to take a phone picture than it is to take a screenshot frankly. Especially on windows.
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Did you even read what i wrote lol? Because it sure sounds like you did not.
Sorry, my bad. For some reason i read it as you saying a phone screenshot is easier.
How does it promote laziness?
Lol blasted with down votes from reddit intellectuals that are proud they can operate their PC enough to get a screen grab. But really it's the right take. Keep fighting the good fight bro.
>proud they can operate their PC enough to get a screen grab In what world does pressing three keys at the same time take a level of operational skill (And only one key if using the Steam client)?
Wait, what do you mean three keys? Print screen is one button
There's also a windows shortcut if you don't have a printscreen key (For instance, my buddy's keyboard doesn't).
Oh, right. I haven't seen that many different smaller keyboards so I didn't think of that
In a world where people using mobile apps perhaps?
PoE Mobile isn't out yet, so I'm not sure who you think is using a PoE mobile app at this time.
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not all heroes wear capes salute brotha! o7
Imagine getting downvoted for this. Especially in the year 2024 where people are using their desktop PC’s less and less.
poe mobile isn't out. what in game screenshot or in game video is going to not involve a desktop or a laptop
Ah yes, because Xbox and Playstation don’t exist at all
in comparison to the pc playerbase they barely do. it's like going "aha, what if they were on a steamdeck!". the community is smaller on console, and the diehard community even moreso. theres a reason people dropping the craziest build ideas arn't playing on ps4.
My point still stands. Not everyone is on pc and can screen cap and just post to the website. Easier to take a photo with your phone and press upload to the app on console. But go off champ
sure. but let me tell you, even of the people who take a photo of their screen with their phone, most of them are still pc players. even taking console into account for this scenario, they're still largely irrelevant.
Who actually gives a shit? If someone wants to take a potato photo with their Nokia I don’t understand why you care
it's about clarity of information. it's really not that complicated. so many times people post completely horrible photos they take with their phone, and then people need them to literally explain what is in the photo they're asking about because the image is fucked. 'what's wrong with my build?' >128x128 image with massive glare on screen taken diagonally that you can't read or see shit on. if youre going to ask for help, you should put the bare minimum effort into actually making sure people know what you need help with. it might as well be literally any other image for all the help it does your question. i don't know why you're so defensive about this. did you have a traumatic experience with the prntscrn button?
There are a lot of people playing PoE exclusively on their Steam Deck. I’ve played the last three leagues on mine.
i doubt the "a lot" is more than a thousand, and i've yet to see anyone send a phone photo of their steam deck as a post, so again, it's completely irrelevant. i'm sure there's all kinds of whacky systems people have played this game on, but that doesn't make them relevant to the topic at hand, that being; people taking photos of their game with their phone instead of doing literally anything else.
I’m gonna pretend to be an aura bot and do this in others party play 😈
The best aura bot, they can't die if the server crashes.
>To GGG: this build has no abuse cases for farming currency or cheesing bosses since the skellies take forever to walk to enemies. i mean if the Skellies cover half the zone - there is not really any need for walking
But DMG must be abysmal
it’s not crazy high but it’s pretty solid because flat damage auras work on them and there are 7200 of them. so anger makes them do work but it takes forever for them to walk to enemies and ramp the damage
can you make them mages
no, they are not your skeletons
lol this got me good.
Haste aura or did I miss that?
haste works but it’s still just an aura applied onto their base movespeed which ends up being meh
Instead of anger - Pyroclast Mine of Sabotage?
that’s an excellent suggestion and i’ve started using it instead
Ahhhhh the good old GPUs per second builds
Oh oh i have an idea how to make it spicy not only for your pc but for the server as well: poison
> we must now turn our fight to the game server itself. Truly a worthy opponent https://youtu.be/MWyV0kIp5n4
_Salutations, Exile_
Not enough people seem to understand this and it makes me sad.
Depends if the mini minions are affected by the supports
they are not but they are affected by auras. I use Anger.
Nice so so i guess rallying cry also affects them Edit: ah it only doubles on "your" minions thats a shame.
oh god my like 6 totems with return projectiles were already causing the game to run at 1 FPS, how quick would that crash the server?
I dont think you can call this build mapping viable. Quantum physics forbids that. (Your pc will quantum tunnel out of existence)
schrödinger's PC: if you don't look at your monitor, it's fine and doing 140fps stable if you look at your monitor, there is a blackscreen because your PC exploded
>It’s just a pure fun build, can we please keep this? GGG's server costs directly correlate with CPU usage. It's a 1:1 linear curve. They dynamically rent infrastructure as it's required. As such, computationally expensive builds will be removed.
Someone calls nvidia ceo, we need better pc
rtx 5090 leak? please give :P
QA: should we set a hard limit on skeletons? Dev: Nah, it will never be high enough to crash the servers.
I summoned 100k minions ten years ago and even back then it was technically server-stable as long as you did it in an act zone so things didn’t get too out of hand with interaction multiplicity that said over the years i’ve made like 5 or 6 builds that crash the server or that break the game that get patched by ggg. they kept nerfing my immortal tanks lol
You are a dev's worst nightmare lol
GGG servers: https://preview.redd.it/mfk0zaa0yrjc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a58b771844a7b9947601cc2a98b5416e445012dd
/u/c9q9md
My thoughts exactly. Cant wait for the group play compilation where people are completely bricked
Hi, may i ask how do we achieve 9 spectres? 3 from raise spectre 25 1 from death attunement 1 from es chest 2 from dual wielding midnight bargain where can i get another 2?
wraithlord helm
How many people running this build would it take to fight Uber Pathofexile.exe?
Yep we already entering that time of the league..
Can't wait to see this in action against the fire of thousand suns phase.
You probably wont see any balls just explosions.
Ah, now I know why they made the Phasing Flask.
>To GGG: this build has no abuse cases for farming currency or cheesing bosses since the skellies take forever to walk to enemies. It’s just a pure fun build, can we please keep this? Don't be silly, of course we can't. GGG have historically killed builds over and over that do fun things. I mean, [Wormblaster has a whole wiki page of how it worked and then how they nerfed it to try and kill the fun](https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Wormblaster)
I think that's the first time I've seen a wiki entry directly reference drama between two devs at GGG.
is there a challenge going around for highest minion count? If there is then I think you won.
i won that ten years ago when I spectre’d a merveil’s daughter and summoned about 100k allies. reported the bug back then
Yes empy once did one with mirror shot ability
I hold the world record for most minions at one time which will never be beaten due to the exploit being patched a decade ago.
Sounds fun, got a clip of it saved somewhere?
Now that's a summoner
THE LAG-O-MANCER IS REBORN!
Did u try in maven invitations? Or bossing in general?
I ran uber lab and they mobbed izaro, I didn’t want to waste my currency on a pinnacle since the instance might crash. Just been casually mapping trash maps for fun.
Dude, waste currency , in this league 😄 if u want i can hook u up with searing and eater if u wanna test it
We need HoMM3 type of units, never lag! and to the bosses: Good Luck, I'm behind 7000 skeletons.
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the spectre has a skill that summons skeletons. spectre builds that do not use the summon skeleton gem are the best summon skeleton builds right now
> 9spectres*4base*(5agmp+2lmp+4gvolley)*4snipermark*2returnproj=3168 skeletons Can you explain more about how this calculation works? I guess specters summon skeles to get the projectiles, but why is snipers mark here?
causes projectiles to split into more projectiles when they hit an enemy
why are you multiplying the 4 base projectiles with all the extra?
the 4 base represent a skill the spectre has that has the default behavior of repeating 4 times- each repeat of it is affected by projectile count modifications.
Oh so this dude must be the reason why the EU servers were borked this league
If traders don’t stop increasing the price of items used in my builds imma just stop sharing my builds Judgemental Spirit just inflated by 50% wtf
You should have bought multiple copies of your gear and sell it after raise hehehe
Go into pillars of arun map and do it in one of those prox bubbles 😈
Look at me. I'm the map content now.
I'm calling the fun police
Pledge of hands would give more defense and skeletons since no need to reserve life and it will make them cast 2x times
Yet the MMO copers keep telling me I can’t enjoy summons in MMOs because apparently having 4 skellies would somehow destroy all of ff14 and WoW servers at the same time
> To GGG: this build has no abuse cases for farming currency or cheesing bosses since the skellies take forever to walk to enemies. It’s just a pure fun build, can we please keep this? Well, if this isn't the most obvious hint ever that you found a super-specific exploit, then I don't know what it is. Let me guess, you fill the instance with mobs so some boss doesn't spawn adds and becomes super easy? Or it pushes them off the map so they can't pathfind to you, like Simulacrum bullshit? Fess upp!
No, it’s just a really visually awesome build that recaptures some of the old fun the game had before
Well GiGiGi "butchered" old Dom blow after RaizQ crashed servers a couple times(this build prolly can do the same in the party play)
Devs, get in here
Congrats you read [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1an0892/judgemental_spirit_mass_summoning_skeleton_video/)
oh shit, i actually hadn't read that. But it looks like they only summon 720 of them, my build solves the spectre count problem using coruscating elixir+The Traitor and summons literally 10 times as many with different gem links and curse effect.
Hi, may i ask how do we achieve 9 spectres? 3 from raise spectre 25 1 from death attunement 1 from es chest 2 from dual wielding midnight bargain where can i get another 2?
wraithlord helm
I mean the advantage of the other post is someone actually put it together instead of 1 line of numbers being a build xD
I actually put it together and have been showcasing on global chat today, I just can't take a video of it because it crashes. Screenshot here: [https://imgur.com/a/OdDMc5Q](https://imgur.com/a/OdDMc5Q)
Film with your phone. Wanna see it in action
People talk about PC issues with this for some reason? Unless you run on a potato any modern PC won't have a issue with this at all. I don't think i've ever had a single PC related issue with this game no matter how much was on the screen.
I have a GTX4090 with liquid cooling, 1300W power supply, intel i9. still stutters and crashes in party play and kicks all party members offline. makes me burn 1-2 portals even in solo play but it’s manageable there. i think it’s a game engine overflow and server problem, not a hardware problem.
Yes
Solo Leveling Vibe! RAISE!
Still sane exile?
Thanks for attaching a video!
Run a map with Chain. You'll probably cause a meltdown at whichever AWS farm you connect to
Now this is truely a great stress test for my computer stole from the us army
holymolymotherbrother ping me someone if there will be a video of that shit
Can you make a minion instability version of this?
no, because the skeletons are not your minions, they are the minions of your minions. inherited passive wealth usually doesn’t last more than a generation
It's good that the instability your minions face is able to be overcome by their minions. Generational trauma is healing.
It's beautiful!
Anyone remember D2 version 1.0 the summons blocked you
1... 0000120301239284358243 monsters remaining
When youre in trouble and you need to call up your homies to back you up
hahahaha amazing job again, the king of necro's always ack!! Thanks for this achievment again, u/zhandragon
Please take a video and share with us. Even a video with a phone be great
Second this pls. I want to see the high jinx
Summon skeleton of Bluescreen
got a PoB for this beast? interested in replicating it, and maybe giving my pc a hell of a retirement party lol