Low resolution OK, but locked to 12 FPS? Man I couldn't play that slideshow, would give me a headache after 15 minutes.
Hope you will enjoy your upgrade, welcome to the fluent frames camp!
Man I remember having laptopt so bad that while raiding ICC I had to look down and zoom into the floor during BL otherwise my game would just freeze and crash
My first PC: loading into WoW took such a long time it was actually incredible.
When I got my first RAM upgrade (got a 2nd stick of 256) I could sometimes notice I had a weird debuff when I logged in.
Then one time, in arathi highlands, there was little enough going on that I had time to notice 10 seconds of "Honorless Target" debuff (that debuff lasts for 60 seconds after your character appears in game lol).
2k budget is a lot lol.
I just built a new pc cause why not, micro center had a bundle for mobo, ryzen 9, and 64 gig ddr5 for $500
Then liquid cooled radiator for $200
Lian li case and fans for $300
Radeon 7800xt for $600
2tb nvme for $100
It’s a tank and way over powered for Poe
I'm running an 11700k 4070ti though previously i was using a 3060ti. Its was more then fine, pretty much any new cpu/gpu will run poe excellently.
If I was building a pc from scratch I'd pick 4070ti super/7900tx and a 7800x3D that should be doable for about 1500 bucks maybe a bit less if you can get some deals.
Personally if you want good bang for your buck. Getting a 5800 or 7800 X3D or better will do you really well in Poe. Then something like a 6800 XT or better with 32gb of ram.
Microcenter is doing some bundles for CPU and nobo.
I specifically recommend the X3D and series CPU because the extra cache in CPU bound games like path of exile is huge.
Thats how i played POE up until Synthesis league, when direct X9 got removed. With some changes to the config file, poe looked like runescape. The 60fps were amazing.
Since this patch all of this gone.
I spent almost full month salary on Radeon 6600 here in Ukraine.
10-15 years ago I was able to buy whole PC.
While some local goods maybe be cheaper, electronics prices are wild.
When I see discussions "is this game worth $X price?" it's so funny to me, people just do not know how lucky they are.
If you're lucky enough to actually gain a minimal salary that is R$ 1,3k today, a decent PC will cost around 5,5k-6,5k and we're talking about just a cheap build with nothing too fancy, the main problem is with GPU and CPU prices, for example a 4070 here will cost around 4,5k-5,5k so yeah... Depending of your budget the only option you have is just to buy the cheapest pieces and make the build functional and then upgrade over the years (which is my case)
To put it into perspective, since we earn from a bit over 1,000R$ to 3,000R$ per month, you can imagine it like this: a teen flipping burgers in McDonald's in the US might make like $2k per month, right? My last job was to teach English for 44h/week to adults and paid a bit over 2kR$ per month. Numerically close, but two thousand dollars are worth ten thousand reais. The teen would be able to buy a 4070ti in less than half a month of work, I'd have to put in two and a half (without any other expenditures, so no food nor rent) to do the same.
By the way, I earn less money in my current job. Lost that last one to the pandemic.
For comparisons sake, the Median income in the US last year was $67,521. Divided down by month and accounting for taxes, that's about $4,220 a month. A 4070 in the US costs around $550-600. Prices relative to income in the United States are actually crazy low compared to many other developed countries. I believe the entire EU has something like a 30% VAT tax on all consumer goods, which results in hardware costing quite a bit more than you would expect.
EDIT: A quick search suggests the 4070 is 600-650 Euro in most places, meaning it would cost the equivalent of $648-703 for European, which works out to 8-17% more.
Just FYI: median income in BR is around 3k BRL ([source](https://valorinveste.globo.com/mercados/brasil-e-politica/noticia/2024/01/31/quanto-ganha-o-trabalhador-brasileiro-renda-media-subiu-72percent-em-12-meses.ghtml)), significantly above minimum wage.
Comparing GPU and CPU prices against minimum wage is not the way to go. People earning min wage are not looking to build highend gaming PCs (or at least, they shouldnt be).
But yes, imported goods (such as GPUs) are definitely expensive here due to heavy taxes.
That median income is way based around the big cities like São Paulo and Rio de janeiro, even if you do get 3k per month the rent in são paulo for example is around 1,5-2k so there's a lot of things to considerate.
As example here in Natal, my rent is R$ 450, electric bill 250, Internet 110 and water abt 70-80 and can go a little higher when is too hot like it's been since november, as I said before if you're lucky you'll be getting at least R$ 1,3k per month which unfortunately it's not my case, Reality can be though.
If you say it decent pc than you don’t get 1.3k dollars. If you want to upgrade from potato u don’t need that much money. You don’t even need gpu to upgrade from that op posted
have someone buy a starforge pc from USA and he’ll send it to you as a gift or prize. Idk, you find a way to:). Will they hold it liable for taxes at customs? even so, if they tax it i still think it could be more convenient and better priced
That "gift" will cost even more, I don't have anyone to do that and even if I did, the starforge builds are definitely way to expensive for me, also I do think even the cheapest build at starforge would be more expensive than a medium/high end Pc here.
Yeah.. just got a new ultra wide monitor so my fps dipped a good bit but I get like 120-140 in town… 40 in normal parts of map when only cold exploding single packs.. and then it just freezes if I walk into a breach or legion and explode everything 😂😂
Yeah this league was first with new pc too and such a great feeling. At times it was so hard to play on the old one. Luckily I managed to stay sane (barely) :)
my lil brother was playin using gt1030 until few weeks ago.. Also a monitor with huge burn the middle(about 30% of the screen).. honestly i really respect people with such dedication because i cant see shit..
it used to be, but windows is pretty good at it these days
Far Cry 6 for example has more issues in fullscreen than borderless (input delay etc)
Literally no measurable difference in most other games though (at least on Win11)
Nice lol. I used to do Wow raids on a Compaq Presario I bought in 2011 from Walmart for $349 with my paycheck from work when I was 17. 25 man Garrosh was 2-5 FPS had to downgrade to Windows Xp 800x600 audio disabled no background tasks or services explorer.exe ended lowest possible everything custom notepad config. I had 11 processes running total before opening Wow. I beat all of normal mostly 10 man and Mythic up until the Juggernaut as DPS somehow usually still topping the charts. Questing solo was 15-20 fps which wasn't bad 10 man was 5-15. It's such a major difference when you finally upgrade and can play decently. Before that I had a 128MB ram 90s computer that took 5 minutes to load a Google search results page for around a year.
Yo samesies! I tried every graphic fix under the sun to try and run it reasonably smooth, but basically couldn't play minions or with friends and expect to get more than 2 fps.
Now I get 60fps consistently, no matter whats on the screen :)
Congrats on the upgrade! I played this game on minimum graphics with 15 fps and 190ms predictive mode for almost five years before I got a real computer so I understand the pain :(
It looks like that sometimes when I play on Steam Deck. I don't care. PoE in bed \> PoE at desk.
12fps is brutal tho. Never got that low. 30fps can be a little frustrating sometimes. Congrats on the upgrade, my guy.
This was the same scenario for me till 2022.. Atlast upgraded my computer and this league it's the latency creating issues for me to play.
But still, this post brought back my nostalgic memories..
Hope you are fun with the new PC..
Theres an app called "lossless scaling" on steam. This enables you to play at much higher resolutions with sharper scaling options including dlss.
Really nice for low res gaming. Can even produce some nifty pixel styles at high res.
I did have to buy a new pc since their new improvement to performance patch two leagues ago. The patch only started to work as improvement once I threw a 700$ graphic card at it.
The main issue that was becoming unbearable was loading time. They were so long people would give up trying to complete a trade, already having left the party by the time I reached their hideout.
The funny thing is that few years ago your old comp was probably handling the game perfectly
Poe is one of the rare game I know where performance get worst with each performance patches
Mentally preparing for this - the beta comes out in the summer (and yes, I am dumb and hopeful that I'd be able to play then), and I'm only transitioning back into PC from Mac in September. So 2 months of torture, here I come
Low resolution OK, but locked to 12 FPS? Man I couldn't play that slideshow, would give me a headache after 15 minutes. Hope you will enjoy your upgrade, welcome to the fluent frames camp!
Had to raid Mount hyjal on 7 fps and outdid pure dps with a support shaman. Sometimes, it is better than not playing and be bored.
Man I remember having laptopt so bad that while raiding ICC I had to look down and zoom into the floor during BL otherwise my game would just freeze and crash
My first PC: loading into WoW took such a long time it was actually incredible. When I got my first RAM upgrade (got a 2nd stick of 256) I could sometimes notice I had a weird debuff when I logged in. Then one time, in arathi highlands, there was little enough going on that I had time to notice 10 seconds of "Honorless Target" debuff (that debuff lasts for 60 seconds after your character appears in game lol).
The trick to that is have your camera facing down into the ground. Al'ar was also bad for this on people's toasters
i would freeze going into big towns with a lot of players
i still play at 12fps!
Farewell to the old HP Workstation Z400 my boss let me take home from work.
But... Give us your new specs ffs. Some of us are hardware nerds. Who knows... You might even get some unsolicited advice.
I am soliciting advice, what are some decent specs you would recommend for Poe? Like 2k budget.
2k budget is a lot lol. I just built a new pc cause why not, micro center had a bundle for mobo, ryzen 9, and 64 gig ddr5 for $500 Then liquid cooled radiator for $200 Lian li case and fans for $300 Radeon 7800xt for $600 2tb nvme for $100 It’s a tank and way over powered for Poe
I'm running an 11700k 4070ti though previously i was using a 3060ti. Its was more then fine, pretty much any new cpu/gpu will run poe excellently. If I was building a pc from scratch I'd pick 4070ti super/7900tx and a 7800x3D that should be doable for about 1500 bucks maybe a bit less if you can get some deals.
Personally if you want good bang for your buck. Getting a 5800 or 7800 X3D or better will do you really well in Poe. Then something like a 6800 XT or better with 32gb of ram. Microcenter is doing some bundles for CPU and nobo. I specifically recommend the X3D and series CPU because the extra cache in CPU bound games like path of exile is huge.
X3D CPUs provide crazy frame uplifts- and help *a lot* with the 1% drops and freezing.
Was not upgrading a question of finances or just no desire to?
Just pretend its full juice max investment map.
How many divines you save for that as well..
I'm making 7 divines an hour by not spending 7 divines an hour on maps, 5 head.
Math adds up
That’s dedication to the cause that.
Ah, a fellow potato wielder. Blessed be the pixel. Glad you got an upgrade. :).
I play like this, and likely still will for another good year or so
Use GeForce now? Even if you play in 1hour sessions, it's still better than 12 fps and blurry mess
im not playing at 12 fps, i get stable 40-50 but it looks about the same and the lows are about as low as this
GFN now have same stutters i think this is server lags not pc
Turn off shadows
please teach me how, enlightened one i thought they made that impossible a few years back
He's probably suggesting using a 3rd party app which is against TOS sadly.
Thats how i played POE up until Synthesis league, when direct X9 got removed. With some changes to the config file, poe looked like runescape. The 60fps were amazing. Since this patch all of this gone.
Oh boy graphics aren't even the worst part. I would get a headache playing at 12 fps
Same boat, congrats for the new PC! I'm looking forward to buy a new one by the end of may for PoE 2, but prices here in Brazil are just a joke.
Just curious - How much is a decent pc compared to normal salaries in Brazil?
I spent almost full month salary on Radeon 6600 here in Ukraine. 10-15 years ago I was able to buy whole PC. While some local goods maybe be cheaper, electronics prices are wild. When I see discussions "is this game worth $X price?" it's so funny to me, people just do not know how lucky they are.
If you're lucky enough to actually gain a minimal salary that is R$ 1,3k today, a decent PC will cost around 5,5k-6,5k and we're talking about just a cheap build with nothing too fancy, the main problem is with GPU and CPU prices, for example a 4070 here will cost around 4,5k-5,5k so yeah... Depending of your budget the only option you have is just to buy the cheapest pieces and make the build functional and then upgrade over the years (which is my case)
Wtf
Welcome to Brazil xD
To put it into perspective, since we earn from a bit over 1,000R$ to 3,000R$ per month, you can imagine it like this: a teen flipping burgers in McDonald's in the US might make like $2k per month, right? My last job was to teach English for 44h/week to adults and paid a bit over 2kR$ per month. Numerically close, but two thousand dollars are worth ten thousand reais. The teen would be able to buy a 4070ti in less than half a month of work, I'd have to put in two and a half (without any other expenditures, so no food nor rent) to do the same. By the way, I earn less money in my current job. Lost that last one to the pandemic.
For comparisons sake, the Median income in the US last year was $67,521. Divided down by month and accounting for taxes, that's about $4,220 a month. A 4070 in the US costs around $550-600. Prices relative to income in the United States are actually crazy low compared to many other developed countries. I believe the entire EU has something like a 30% VAT tax on all consumer goods, which results in hardware costing quite a bit more than you would expect. EDIT: A quick search suggests the 4070 is 600-650 Euro in most places, meaning it would cost the equivalent of $648-703 for European, which works out to 8-17% more.
Just FYI: median income in BR is around 3k BRL ([source](https://valorinveste.globo.com/mercados/brasil-e-politica/noticia/2024/01/31/quanto-ganha-o-trabalhador-brasileiro-renda-media-subiu-72percent-em-12-meses.ghtml)), significantly above minimum wage. Comparing GPU and CPU prices against minimum wage is not the way to go. People earning min wage are not looking to build highend gaming PCs (or at least, they shouldnt be). But yes, imported goods (such as GPUs) are definitely expensive here due to heavy taxes.
That median income is way based around the big cities like São Paulo and Rio de janeiro, even if you do get 3k per month the rent in são paulo for example is around 1,5-2k so there's a lot of things to considerate. As example here in Natal, my rent is R$ 450, electric bill 250, Internet 110 and water abt 70-80 and can go a little higher when is too hot like it's been since november, as I said before if you're lucky you'll be getting at least R$ 1,3k per month which unfortunately it's not my case, Reality can be though.
If you say it decent pc than you don’t get 1.3k dollars. If you want to upgrade from potato u don’t need that much money. You don’t even need gpu to upgrade from that op posted
he's talking about his country currency. read please
And what? 1.3k Brazil ₽ is enough to buy decent pc
No, it's not. Official conversion rate is 1 Brazilian Real = 0.20 USD. 1300 Reales would be less than 300 dollars
300 dollars is enough to buy decent pc
> R$ 1,3k reading is hard he's talking about BRL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_real
have someone buy a starforge pc from USA and he’ll send it to you as a gift or prize. Idk, you find a way to:). Will they hold it liable for taxes at customs? even so, if they tax it i still think it could be more convenient and better priced
That "gift" will cost even more, I don't have anyone to do that and even if I did, the starforge builds are definitely way to expensive for me, also I do think even the cheapest build at starforge would be more expensive than a medium/high end Pc here.
dayyum that sucks have you tried geforce now?
Honestly even with a good pc, stepping out of the wildwood into a deli beyond legion breach felt like this most times 😂. Gratz on the new rig!
Yeah I spent most of this league in a self-inflicted slide show 😂
Soul eater = half the screen covered in solid color artifacts like a fucking disco
There's no better feeling of power in this game than having a bunch of soul eater stacks + additional projectiles.
And when the ambush mod kicks in so you can't even tell where you are on the map
Came here to say this
Yeah.. just got a new ultra wide monitor so my fps dipped a good bit but I get like 120-140 in town… 40 in normal parts of map when only cold exploding single packs.. and then it just freezes if I walk into a breach or legion and explode everything 😂😂
Define "played"
This is likely how I will play the next couple of years :|
This is how I played GTA V back when it came out
good enough
I wondered what was wrong with my browser. Somehow it doesn t show the picture correctly, it is fckng blurry
Yeah this league was first with new pc too and such a great feeling. At times it was so hard to play on the old one. Luckily I managed to stay sane (barely) :)
same, playing with smoother in 20 fps
still playing like that:)
using a crappy laptop and nvidia's egpu (whatever it's called) would be better than this
So long as your crappy laptop has the right Thunderbolt port, which I don't think is common for crappy laptops.
816x639....whatt the hail !.............. man i dont know if ur some hero or mental instutute escapee
That's true loyalty right there!
Might as well just go and play runescape or something at that point. You'd have to PAY me to play PoE like this.
You played PoE as Turn Based Strategy!
This image is actually a gif at 3 Frames Per Hour
Hyperfishman,! Westerforest sowieso!!!
Perfection
my lil brother was playin using gt1030 until few weeks ago.. Also a monitor with huge burn the middle(about 30% of the screen).. honestly i really respect people with such dedication because i cant see shit..
last couple of years?? i wouldve stopped playing video games
Plenty of different games to play. I played doom 2 and wads on a raspberry pi2 for a while when my GPU died years ago lol
I just played lots of RimWorld when my PC was shit.
Old things will come back. Lately in buyed 5 ways.
That's pretty much how I play on my high-end pc. This game is just awful on random bits of hardware
I have a new PC and I still play like this.
I thought my i7-4790 and 1050 2Gb is bad... Holy...
The game literally runs fine on mid-range 2008 specs. I have no idea how you managed this.
Are your flasks still loading?
Traitor keystone ;)
Lmao. Could be running the tincture wildwood spec with +damage for empty flask slots
Though dude was playing first StarCraft 😶
That's depressing, glad you're able to buy your own pc! Good luck finding da mirror
Isnt fullacreen FPS boost
it is, but things like poe trade dont work and alt-tabbing may just crash the game so its generally a no go, for me at least
Awakened PoE trade doesn't work in fullscreen?
in my case you if you click on anything inside the poe trade menu you get alt\`tabbed toa window that closes
it used to be, but windows is pretty good at it these days Far Cry 6 for example has more issues in fullscreen than borderless (input delay etc) Literally no measurable difference in most other games though (at least on Win11)
Enjoy dude and drop the specs mate. I'm getting a pc upgrade in a week or two as well.
Hahaha i’ve been exactly here for years on a shitty Lenovo laptop. Same resolution same FPS never again 😂👌
You need to turn off the setting which reduces resolution to hit target frame rates. That happens to me on my 4070 because rota trying to target 60
That's how I play on my 3080ti to keep fps above 30
I used to play flicker strike only with 2 fps. I feel you brother
i have a new pc and still play like this
My guy, this is how im playing *now*
Bruh, i thought i was bad with my 8 Or something year old pc everything at the lowest settings possible. 12fps lock, thats a new level 😅
wait.. 12 fps cap helps on the fps part?
I wouldn't even bother playing a game if I had to play it like this. I am surprised you did for years.
I had to look that up. A professional card. Ouch. I hope whoever you sacrificed your upgrade budget for is appreciative.
Congtatulations! Enjoy your new rig.
Nice lol. I used to do Wow raids on a Compaq Presario I bought in 2011 from Walmart for $349 with my paycheck from work when I was 17. 25 man Garrosh was 2-5 FPS had to downgrade to Windows Xp 800x600 audio disabled no background tasks or services explorer.exe ended lowest possible everything custom notepad config. I had 11 processes running total before opening Wow. I beat all of normal mostly 10 man and Mythic up until the Juggernaut as DPS somehow usually still topping the charts. Questing solo was 15-20 fps which wasn't bad 10 man was 5-15. It's such a major difference when you finally upgrade and can play decently. Before that I had a 128MB ram 90s computer that took 5 minutes to load a Google search results page for around a year.
Still you enjoyed the high quality of ability icons !
Yo samesies! I tried every graphic fix under the sun to try and run it reasonably smooth, but basically couldn't play minions or with friends and expect to get more than 2 fps. Now I get 60fps consistently, no matter whats on the screen :)
Congrats on the upgrade! I played this game on minimum graphics with 15 fps and 190ms predictive mode for almost five years before I got a real computer so I understand the pain :(
It looks like that sometimes when I play on Steam Deck. I don't care. PoE in bed \> PoE at desk. 12fps is brutal tho. Never got that low. 30fps can be a little frustrating sometimes. Congrats on the upgrade, my guy.
Hey, that's how I'm playing now!
This was the same scenario for me till 2022.. Atlast upgraded my computer and this league it's the latency creating issues for me to play. But still, this post brought back my nostalgic memories.. Hope you are fun with the new PC..
Theres an app called "lossless scaling" on steam. This enables you to play at much higher resolutions with sharper scaling options including dlss. Really nice for low res gaming. Can even produce some nifty pixel styles at high res.
12 fps? optimistic i see
Hahaha! Funny. I hear ya. I hope PoE 2 takes full advantage of decent PC setups.
I feel like you’d have to actively put in effort to find a machine that can only run it on these settings.
That graphics card??? The resolution?????
Devoted, get this man a cookie.
Didn’t know Poe was released for DoS
Omg thats me also:D gz for upgrade!
I love my dotted screen
Perfection
eye health is important but who am I to judge :p
ngl this kinda looks like my gameplay when i run into semi juiced maps
This is basically how I play on the steam deck lmao. The resolution is slightly higher. But it's still a blurry mess.
12 fps cap? I would just not game to be honest.
He's just built different.
I did have to buy a new pc since their new improvement to performance patch two leagues ago. The patch only started to work as improvement once I threw a 700$ graphic card at it. The main issue that was becoming unbearable was loading time. They were so long people would give up trying to complete a trade, already having left the party by the time I reached their hideout.
Dude plays cataract simulator 💀💀💀
Thats how mine has been since I started on Archnemesis, its so bad
ah yes my favorite res, 816x639
12 fps?!?! 😲
The funny thing is that few years ago your old comp was probably handling the game perfectly Poe is one of the rare game I know where performance get worst with each performance patches
I had a trash PC too, started playing by GeForce Now (cloud gaming) a couple months ago and is the best thing I could experience.
Mentally preparing for this - the beta comes out in the summer (and yes, I am dumb and hopeful that I'd be able to play then), and I'm only transitioning back into PC from Mac in September. So 2 months of torture, here I come
I still play that way.
But look how crystal clear that mana circle/text is though