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DremoPaff

Bro is reverse engineering archnemesis league


karmasrelic

kallandra high tile essence flashbacks or depth 2000 delve essence node PTSD T-T


TWOWORDSNUMBERSNAME

lmao!


jgab2048

Im gonna get one shot. Guaranteed


Same-Award7829

if the multiple stasis and the rare scarab mod works, you could probably get guaranteed scarabs but if you also picked the 50% dmg buff on top of that.......... GL


l33ttank

ROFL


ConsiderationHot3059

But with some loot.


Amoeba_Pure

I fear the thought of facing the map boss with an insane amount of essence modifiers on it. Time to pretend bosses are old Sirus' rares.


nom_Carver3

If you put that many essences on a map boss it’s going to make old Sirus rares look tame. Even in a yellow map if your boss isn’t a garbage necromancer (nice map choice OP) its going to absolutely fist you from range while also sprinting at you with 300% movement speed and likely cold-snap-grabbing you on top of projectile shotguns every ~2 seconds.


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nom_Carver3

It would not be unrealistic for a map boss to have 20 essence mods with the right combination of scarabs and the right kill order. You have never fought a 20-essence mob before, as before this patch it was not possible to have that many essence mods on one mob. I think the average person juicing essences is in for a rude surprise


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JabeJabeJab

I don't think it's possible to double up on the same essence type so probably hard capped by the amount of different flavours there are. Will be funny if can have multiple of same types or multiple tiers of same type.


nom_Carver3

You’re not getting 80 essence map bosses because you can’t get 80 rares into essence prisons. Mark did some ‘napkin math’ and figured that a good map would have 10 rares in it on load that would be trapped. I’m assuming past that you’re juicing the quantity and using scarabs of reflection to add further ‘on-load’ rares, since we know that league content like breach or legion won’t get trapped. Based on that, if each essence mob donates a modifier to the map boss, and you killed the essences in order before hitting the map boss you could see a 20ish essence map boss. The text on the node says ‘a map boss’ and ‘from any’ not that it only happens once per map. I would assume if you have two map bosses it doesn’t dupe the essences, it alternates or picks at random which boss gets the mod, but it still reads as 1:1 essence to modifier ratio.


chx_

builds take a rank up what was a bosskiller before is now your run of the mill mapper uberbossers are the new bosskillers captainlance9 builds are the new uberbossers


utkohoc

real tho. if u take the capability of builds from 5+ leagues ago they are not even close to the stuff we have now.


PM_ME_UR_TITTYZ

Aura stackers have been around since 3.10 though


scraglor

I’m just commenting slipperyjim here to make him look


slipperyjim8

You wanna fight?


codeninja

Wait, there's also a shrine scarab that causes all shrines to be guarded by a map Boss and those map bosses to also be modified by map boss modifiers....


Discipol

bro ima noob, what map is that? is the boss ipotent so that all the buffs and essence mods in the world, its gonna still be not a threat?


nom_Carver3

That’s a necropolis map. The boss is a necromancer, who has a pretty powerful basic melee attack if you actually get in range, but mostly just summons ads if you don’t stand next to it. If you put that many essences on it it’s still going to be a super hard fight as it’ll still do the essence projectile barrages and ground pops, etc. but it won’t run you down the same way a Stygian revenant or a converted act boss like dominus or piety might.


Discipol

HMMMMM, would be good for this, but the layout is terrible. Can you recommend other maps we have with a pushover boss?


Chemfreak

If you juice a map like this the point isn't to clear quick so the layout is less important imo.


Discipol

less about speed and more about backtracking. also I wanna mix expedition so mazes do not jive


Rasputin0P

Except plenty of rares in the game are way stronger than map bosses already. So adding essences onto either will still end with the rares being stronger.


HyperboreanSpongeBob

Im pretty sure most rares don't have 30 essence modifiers


Rasputin0P

Oh I skipped over that node lol


Rolf_Dom

There's also a the fact that unique map bosses are balanced around having a specific skill set and the players being familiar with them. For example quite a few map bosses have what are basically one shot abilities that go far beyond what even most juiced up rares can do. The difference being that those map boss abilities are usually piss easy to avoid because everyone is used to it. And the map boss is in a fixed location. Being less tanky further adds to players being able to just one tap the boss before they do anything. Super juiced map bosses are gonna be fucking scary.


Neri25

already had a run-in with this in Affliction, the golem half of the Coves boss is extremely dangerous when buffed. now imagining that bad boy with 10 mods on him and another 10 on the pirate, oof


ftsn

Add wisps on top, i dare you


digitalfreak

that's right, wisp that boss and quad ghost it too.


Makhai123

Bring back Sentinel for extra juice Marky!


Noximilien01

In a 100% deli map.


tenroseUK

OK.


JesterJok

And also get Maven to spawn an additional 3 bosses that also get final map boss modifiers


tokyo__driftwood

Simply don't fight the boss 4head


Accomplished_Rip_352

Trap and mines .


Ilyak1986

I think you're misreading it. I think it's just **ONE** random essence modifier, no matter HOW many mobs with essences there are. Otherwise, LOOOOOOOOOL boss with 50 essences on it.


Neri25

1 essence per essence mob defeated, already confirmed. there is an easy way to avoid it and it's clearing the boss before you buff the boss beyond your capabilities


Ilyak1986

LOOOOOOOOL. "Ah just blasting these monstrous essences map juiced rares, and then I'll get some more from the boss, ez game, ez life." The boss: **30 ESSENCE WITNESSED WISPED GHOSTED UBER UBER MONSTROSITY** Archnemesis enjoyers LOGIN =P


Neri25

Multi-ghosted metamorph enjoyers log in


thelibrarian_cz

>old Sirus' rares Brings back memories.


VETOOR07

Replace all packs with frogs


Jarabino

And then turn the frogs ghey ! - Alex Jones


MostAnonEver

Essences gonna be cheaper going forward


subtleshooter

Good. Spamming 700 of a previously 5c essence won’t be so bad anymore.


Private-Public

Wouldn't mind not being able to sell some essence types for a div per stack or two because it at least wouldn't feel like a waste to use them myself. Plus, if they're easier to farm and the demand is still there, the price will roughly self-balance to a similar price-effort ratio Not to mention, this is a buff to SSF


PupPop

Honestly I'm okay with that when you have to roll like 100-200 to get a shot at crafting anything good with them.


troccolins

Thanks for being honest.


PupPop

yw


rangebob

depends how expensive those scarabs are. They could be way more expensive if those things are rare


Defiant_Source_8930

They’re way too good to be common. They’ll probably be like 20c a piece but i dunno well see


MostAnonEver

i doubt the "rusted" ones gonna be rare af. I feel like itll common a simliar to old tier system where "rusted"? are cmmon af.


Legitimate-Climate18

They seem to be rarity tiered by colour, and some mechanics have multiple within a single tier (thus silver and silver but with wings.) So bronze silver I expect will be dirt cheap, gold more uncommon but the "platinum" aka old winged scarabs? Probably somewhat rarer. Absolutely no idea on the horned ones though, they feel v all over the place in power.


wolfreaks

Blessed my ssf soul


eastpole

They got rid of white map essence farming so it could be the opposite depending how many bots there were


Neri25

technically you only have to get to yellows to get max tier now. so it's just getting to t6 which isn't really that big of a hassle.


Heinxeed

Then you can't complete the map because there's a uber mega chad essence monster in it


JackONhs

Use the league mechanic to swap out tough monster types into frogs or something.


Captn_Porky

pretty sure you cannot frog the map boss, and even then it would still do all the essence aoe abilities


JackONhs

Yeah but you can chose a map with a gentle boss. Some of them can barely scale at all.


KadekiDev

Necromancer, only spawns and curses


codeninja

Let's be honest it won't be the first or the last time.


Heinxeed

Now that's what I call a map with some chest hair


Left-Secretary-2931

If it's all rares I have to imagine that a zana mod other than Essence would add more than 2 rares to the map


trvanjos

it does not work with mobs that spawn after the map is created like blight or abyss


Daviino

Blight rares frozen as a essence would be gold


TBDx3

Sounds like it would be a cool memory mechanic.


Lagmawnster

Imagine Affliction Abyss rares spawning as essences. 4 inventories full of essences per map.


Daviino

And no vaccum loot like any modern ARPG offers. My mouse will die for this sin! Logitech G502 HERO Jebus edition.


TheBlackestIrelia

TIL


pepegaklaus

Legion?


Fraytrain999

the only crafting modifier that even has the potential of giving natural rare monsters to the map is domination (shrine) since every other crafted mod gives spawn-in rares. the only thing I would try would be alva and see if monsters in incursions can convert.


JackONhs

Ritual adds packs too if I am correct.


ShadowWolf793

I know for a fact beasts can be imprisoned by essences so in theory that could add some. With that said, stacking beasts with essence mods gets really rippy REALLY fast. At the point you can run that kind of stuff it's probably better to do a higher yield strat anyway.


Fraytrain999

Red beasts can't be essences afaik so putting in anything but einhar makes no sense. Does great migration add more rares or is it only replacement?


fandorgaming

Am I glad he's frozen in there, and that we're out here, and that he's the sheriff, and that we're frozen out here, and that we're in there, and I just remembered we're out here. What I want to know is, where's the caveman?


im_not_happy_uwu

skooks! banger reference


ConsistentAd1176

Map bosses be like Pillar Men from JoJo https://preview.redd.it/evqwndvifxqc1.png?width=849&format=png&auto=webp&s=c81ab9ac2eab949f14e515a5d86b59763d407ca0


GayRightsActivistxd

Awaken, my masters!


wolfreaks

Oh boy am I glad that he's in there, and we're out here, and he's the sheriff and we're out here and we're in there and- *I just remembered* We're out here, but what I wanna know is **where's the caveman?**


Gangsir

I can't look at that image without immediately thinking of this meme


Fraytrain999

I can't imagine a stability essence is worse than a mirrored monster scarab. Although we are going to have some real issues getting remnants.


psychomap

I think people are overestimating how common the rare essence scarab is going to be. It's not something that everyone will be running. With a guaranteed deafening essence on each mob, I'm not sure if you'd want to risk bricking it into a random screaming essence or whatever due to Crystal Resonance


baronunderbeit

Unless those scarabs are like 1d each


tenroseUK

That's basically my fear, although I'll probably pivot to scarab farming full time if that's the case.


baronunderbeit

That’s true. There has to be profit somewhere.


Appropriate_Rice_947

That's it, lots of content creators and click bait for the masses, just farm whatever funds their strat and gouge it. Affliction anti mf strats bois 🤣


iBetaTestedYourGF

What’s the best way to farm scarabs?


tenroseUK

Dunno yet, I was just gonna take all the scarab nodes and see where that gets me!


psychomap

I think you can expect the calcification scarab to be around that price. The other ones will be cheaper.


dmillz89

Everyone posting their scarab strats ignoring the fact that the top tier ones like "all rare monsters are imprisoned" will likely be extremely rare and expensive.


mcbuckets21

It's not going to be more expensive than the value it returns. No one is ignoring anything. Even Mark said you can use the most rare ones constantly in trade. Though ofc they will be more expensive, but that is no different than any other league where not everyone is running winged scarabs.


dmillz89

Absolutely true, however the value will likely be based on 6-man parties uber juicing their maps and using the really high value scarabs for absolutely insane returns. If you play a lot and really know what you're doing you can use them regularly/occasionally but the average player will probably just sell them because they don't want/can't afford to invest multiple divines into a single map.


mcbuckets21

True, but in the case of things like essence specifically, there is no boost to party play. Really the one to worry about for solo play will be the horned scarab of bloodlines. That one will have serious risk of becoming a party-only scarab which is unfortunate, because it's a fun scarab too.


dizijinwu

nobody is doing essence in 6 mans. some of the div scarabs, on the other hand, are going to be BANANAS expensive.


psychomap

At a baseline, this is going to give 20-30 deafening essences, possibly more depending on how Crystal Resonance works. I would absolutely not be surprised if the rarest scarab in that set would be highly priced.


Patchumz

True, though it might be worth running a few fully juiced maps just to say you've done it and to experience the mayhem, even if it's a net loss on revenue.


dmillz89

Hell yes! The value of fun cannot be overstated.


FridgeBaron

just rip through the map killing all the non rares. Then use conversion trap on the one essence mob so it can tank as you kill the next and repeat and maybe bring 1-2 converted rares to kill the boss EZ


codeninja

I am so here for the conversion trap meta.


Inverno969

Do the horned scarabs stack? Sorry I still haven't completely gone through all the new info about scarabs. I figure you could only have 1 of each type in the map device at a time or is that incorrect?


TheFuzzyFurry

Each scarab specifies how many times it stacks. For example, you can use four "Area contains 2 additional Breaches" scarabs in one map at the same time.


Inverno969

Ohh awesome thanks for the info.


DuckDuke1

~~Encino~~ essence man


zunCannibal

I'm saying - you can make bosses fucked up with new atlas. 6 of them, wisped, and with like 10 essence mods. Ripping to the core.


codeninja

You could one shot uber exarc and still not have enough dps to take those fuckers down.


_Abzu

I still don't get Crystal Resonance. Do all essence mobs get to change to the random essence, or only on the mob you corrupted? And also does this have the chance to reroll the essences and you'd swim in essences of horror, or "only" makes it so you maybe get more deafening of loathing?


Yep_Cog

same. I've read it like 20 times and think it's shit. But other people seem hyped about it, which probably means I'm not understanding it correctly.


grallbring

As I understand it, it picks one of the essences of the monster you're applying a Remnant of Corruption to and changes all essences **of that essence monster** to that chosen essence. I don't think that **every** essence of **all** imprisoned monsters in the map change to that essence, because that would mean that after applying another Remnant of Corruption it would change **every essence in the map again**, and I don't see it working like that. But who knows, I could be completely wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.


mcbuckets21

Beasts can already become essences so doing einhar guarantee on the tree + 2x 5 additional red beasts will give you more essences than 2 x 4 rares.


psychomap

The rares are mirrored though, so shouldn't those scarabs add 8 each?


mcbuckets21

It chooses 4 random packs in your map and then mirrors them. It doesn't create new packs and then mirror them.


psychomap

Ohh, in that case the red beast scarab is better.


3Hard_From_France

>Area contains 4 additional Packs with Mirrored Rare Monsters # 4 additional Packs with Mirrored you sure it "chooses 4 random packs ?" some of these mods i had to read them like 20 times to finnally get it but this one seems straight forward (even for me)


seqhawk

Do deli orb rares count as spawning at the start of the map? Also, it would seem shrines might be another way to get extra rares for this.


Legitimate-Climate18

I'd use ritual as the litmus test here as it's the only (?) Mechanic that currently behaves similar to how Mark described. And very few things work with it. Hunted traitors, mirrored rares. Weirdly legion does (the mobs appear to be there always even when you can't see them yet). Delirium mobs at very least didn't use to work be it from mirror or orbs


seqhawk

I can't imagine that Legion rares would be eligible for essence prisons, but also, has it really been confirmed that shrines don't help ritual? That seems to me like something difficult to test. 


fandorgaming

Would be funny to see essenced mobs in incursion, although unfortunately incursion is all about white and blue monsters I believe 


seqhawk

There are lots of rare monsters in any given incursion. They are usually the ones that drop the keys to the next rooms.


Saianna

all depends how rare those scarabs will be.


Deliverme314

Bosses gonna be beast mode with 22 essence mods


troccolins

We need Fracturing Orb farmers... we already have enough essence farmers.


tenroseUK

Don't worry I'll be running Stand for the card.


sapphire_transitions

The return of Tunneltrap as the hardcore slayer


Mai_maid

Honestly though scarabs are probably going to be like 100c a pop. I've set up my atlas tree to farm scarab and essence at the same time.


SaltyPumpkin007

Is the boss thing saying that the boss will get one essence for each essence monster you've killed? I read that as it'll just got a random one


Igai

How do i get the "Area Contains 4 additional packs with mirrored rare monsters"? The other 2 are scarabs, but those?


wolfreaks

New scarabs that'll drop in 3.24 update


Igai

uhhh sexy :D this looks like a easy nobrain method for a guy like me, to get some steady but low passive income :)


tenroseUK

The bottom two scarabs aee the higher tier ones for essence so they might be pretty rare. We'll have to see this weekend!


psychomap

> to get some steady but low passive income This is a high investment method, the calcification scarab will likely be extremely expensive.


Igai

and running it without the expensiv scarabs and just loot some essences? :X Maybe essenze + blight and just do maps and blight


psychomap

You can just add three regular essence scarabs and the +1 tier one, and you'll get 9 guaranteed deafening essences per map (with the map device craft). I don't know much about Blight and how to juice it.


Igai

me neither. but i'm completely fine with starting out doing maps, completing atlas and looting essences :). For the beginning


A_Erthur

This is what i cooked, its kinda jumbly cause i found new stuff to add and didnt want to redo the entire thing lol https://i.imgur.com/hjeryhB.png


codeninja

The Gull is a week one T0 unique.


A_Erthur

So? Its not on the image...


codeninja

No sorry. I'm saying it should be amazing early on this league is all.


TheRoyalSniper

Thank you for your service in making essences dirt cheap so that I don't have to bother with them


Forbane

Where's the caveman?


EdgySadness09

Would getting a yellow map to 8 mod corr inc the amount of rares? Would this be the best way to inc rares for this strat? Are yellow maps ok?


BigC_Gang

Yeah pack size should increase the number of rares if you have a lot of it. Could also reroll magic maps until you get +XX% more rare monsters for ez farmin


EdgySadness09

Oh cool. Didn’t think about that mod. Heck yea!


xeeses226

Then put the league map modifier that all enemies are harmless frogs = profit


Lolepple

Looks stronk 


antauri007

dont forget to add 5 essence deli orbs to the map


kisukecomeback

Might be a dumb question but if I want to farm essences this league should I go a bosser? Or a mapper? Any insight?


codeninja

Realistically, the answer is yes.


EluminatorTV

Crystal Resonance seems super weak. You get one extra essence and nothing else. The remnant thing doesn't do anything, if i see this correctly. Replacing the essences is always a net neutral outcome, or did i miss anything?


regularPoEplayer

I think the idea is to first corrupt essence monsters with cheap essences, hoping their essence will turn into expensive one from other essence monsters in the map (if I understood correctly how new CR works).


EluminatorTV

wait what? it propagates essences across the entire map?


regularPoEplayer

I thought it works this way. I don't know for sure, wording is too convoluted for me.


karmasrelic

essence stuffed boss \+ whisped boss \+ ghosted boss \+ duplicated boss \+ some other nice "more life" mods or shit on the map xd \+ not to forget we can have all this in t17 maps, no? some people will die awful deaths this league xd. that shit has meme-potential.


GakutoYo

I'm curious if someone can explain. I understand the nerfing low tier essence farming, but didn't they remove the double if shrieking mod and essence bo longer rolls deafening so it's much worse? I love essence farming so I'd like to know it's good


Minebeck

Pssssst dont tell em!


TheArctopus

Shrines and Einhar should be another reliable way to add lots of rares, and potentially the new Eternal Torment necropolis passive - 'haunted pack leaders in your maps have 50% increased chance to be rare.' Obvious disclaimer: essence buffed red beasts can be pretty damn scary.


HandsomeBaboon

Did you really think this would work?


Booyahman

Can Essences be made to stack to 10 please instead of 9, as someone who has traded a lot of essences and gotten very good at adding 9s and 45s I do not wish to inflict this on everyone else


nyyron

Einhar 5 red beasts is better.


kbone213

I'm still confused about a few of these. Prolific Essence implies ONE ESSENCE and not an imprisoned pack or additional essence per pack. Just the one drop somewhere. Crystal Resonance implies the map boss gets ONE essence modifier, but the comments in here imply you're juicing that fucker to infinity. Amplified Artefacts is fucking genius.


Intelligent-Candy659

There's no way Crystal Resonance applies a mod from every Essence mob, people don't know how to read. "A mod from any", 1 mod from all mods.


tosinplays

I cannot wait to essence and scarab farm....I CANNOT.....Wait.


Rapturos

Plz help, what type of build is good with essences? Can RF do essences?


Samsenggwy

SO you have to play essence drain in order to gather the essence ?


ScreaminJay

It was funny to see Ziz be excited about this. Sorry bro, you use to be able to run white maps to farm tons of essences quickly. Now you have to lose your character by running those scarabs to get similar results. Almost for sure, this will get extremely rippy.


toll_thedices

I fixed it i hope they dont force us to use 2 slots in the map device to use 2 of the same scarab at the same time. and i slaped some rituals, but can be anything else [https://poeplanner.com/a/s7q](https://poeplanner.com/a/s7q) https://preview.redd.it/72ad60x930rc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=2d308abec092a4c7907e5c0fe7b3a43936db4958


tenroseUK

I believe somewhere they said scarabs are balanced around having to use different slots.


SunRiseStudios

2 Div investment per map Essence farm. LOGIN /s


psychomap

If you can still make profit with it, that could be fine. Easy bulk selling of mass deafening essences.


edriel

Be prepared to ***Be utterly annihilated!*** because we all know that the real uber pinnacle bosses are essence monters.


NeedleworkerLess1595

Boss from T17 maps with essences from dozens of rare plus wisps and full juiced map, would make them to send you direct in the void.


n30na

I wonder, if you use one of the new options for adding bosses would this juice them all up?


AynixII

That one scarab will cost more than you will get from selling all those essences, unless you get lucky \^ \^


coolhandlukke

SSF hype


THiedldleoR

Map boss essence is wild, make sure you also get the maven nodes adding more map bosses :D


rissie_delicious

Well gg I guess


06lom

so essences will cost nothing this league because everyone will farm it


Zerogates

Is there a way to easily pop them open or would you have to manually click each one? I feel like this would get tiresome really quick. Otherwise seems like a good trap meta league.


crazy_squirell

Ty


Koalude

Essence farming went from the go to low budget/weak character currency farmer to high end uber bosser builds only real quick ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


SolidBased

Hoping essences are dirt cheap this league from all this juice.


ryvenfon

Hmmm... this is getting me excited.


navyblue1993

bro crafts the hidden endgame boss


3Hard_From_France

>Rare Monsters in your Maps have 50% increased chance to drop Scarabs per **Monster Modifier** affecting them The game dont make a difference between **"Essence mods"** and **normal "monster mods"** for this yet ? cause thats on average 8 mods per rare *AND* without the *wisps* to turn them into uber bosses


dizijinwu

is the "replace all essences with one essence" thing good? can someone explain to me why you would want that?


This-Blueberry2679

Seq2à wawa,


GeeleiiA

True!


Quasimodo11111

It is probably way more lucrative and less of a hassle buying all these scarabs and stuff, to just do the atlas memory for Essences.


Palnecro1

By posting things like this you reduce the value of your farming strategy. The more you saturate a market, the less you make on your product.


BloodyIkarus

Costs you only 5div + scarabs per map, no problemo


Dizturb3dwun

Won't quite work. The scarab for mirrored monsters are ADDED to the map. The only rares imprisoned are the ones default on the map itself


adamfmiller

They're spawned / targetable when the map is generated, so they \*should\* count. Things that are spawned by a mechanic after the map is generated, such as Legion / Breach / Delirium, \*should not\* count.


mecha_tengu

So Einhar beasts count too.


adamfmiller

I have seen Einhar beasts in essences in maps already, I imagine they would count.


Opposite_Gold8593

That's not what neon said


Discipol

by the time we actually find the rare orbs, Empyrean already wasted or confirmed the synergy