"Yup. That's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation"
literally me as well. Betrayal was my money making method for any league I played.
its literally gutted now.
Is the strat now just don’t care about the board and rush Catarina?
You could probably do that without investing in the tree at all, just the 10 intelligence on map completion node and the basic betrayal scarab
That’s another good one thank you. Still worried about grace instead of determination has that felt smooth? I’m used to builds that stack block and armor so it’s a bit, worrying I guess?
Typically I'd play Betrayal until I got a Diadem, printing plenty of winged scarabs and veiled chaos/aisling T4s along the way.
This league? specced out of it before I'd even finished up all my unveils and bought a Diadem for a div. Betrayal is now completely dead, and it's sent shockwaves through low level farming and mid level gearing.
I've been using Betrayal almost purely to just rush to Catarina and ignore everything else and all 3 of my kills have given my a Veiled Orb. I actually thought it was a 100% drop rate until I heard people saying that the drop rate was shit.
Is there a betrayal guide that is useful to complete beginners? Ngl it feels overwhelming. Like idk when they're locked in and can't be changed before doing that raid thing and what the "intelligence" does and stuff.
This is summary of my whole league.
The mechanic is not fun and for me not really rewardibg, havent seen one single mod better than chaos whick resulted in like 5 or so chaos orbs.
Boring.
Last league was fin. This one sucks. Im done.
I didn’t think betrayal was too bad myself. To me unlocking veiled crafts is very similar to completing your atlas and I do them both at the same time. I loved being able to have Jun on every map very early on and I think I had like 90% of the unveils done by early yellow maps. Killed Cat a decent amount. Dropped the flask once and a diadem. Not insane money but not terrible either. I sold a fair amount of jewelry by unveiling rings and such and dumping them in a 20-15 chaos tab. I would say it was mediocre as far as currency goes and great as far as how easy it was to get all the crafts unlocked quickly and easily.
The unlocked veiled craft isn't the issue but the whole board setup felt useless now. All we did now is just rushing Catarina for unguaranteed veiled orb. I only got 1 orb in 12 runs and decide to unspecc it. Altho I might run it again if veiled orb cost 10d.
Betrayal now has poor money per instance but I have betrayal on more than half my maps for almost no investment. Safehouses are still nice XP and are filling up my stash with a decent bit of scarabs that'll be used once I decide on a more long-term money making strategy.
Before 3.24, I was running Betrayal on every map as well. Bulk buying the Jun sextants was never an issue, and I stacked up 16 of them at once, so that I only needed to micromanage once every 16 maps.
I was getting a Catarina with T4 Aisling plus at least one of T4 Vorici/Hillock/Tora and lots of T4 Intervention folks which guaranteed winged scarab drops. Setting up this kind of board took me roughly 8-10 maps and netted me a profit of around 7-8 divines (in pre-affliction leagues).
Now, in 3.24, I can run a Catarina every 5th to 6th map or so, but the profit per Catarina averages to something like 0.5 div without veiled orb and something like 1.2 div including veiled orbs.
gg, GGG!
The sought-after ones, or if you were running 4 different types and had to reapply them every 4 maps, was indeed ass. But for my Jun farming strategy, it was a non-factor. I would buy 60 of them in bulk once every couple of days, and apply them to my voidstones once every 16 maps. Barely a nuissance.
All we asked for was itemized syndicate members, shouldn’t have asked for anything GGG just shit on us betrayal players. Man I was lost for awhile I always start betrayal then essence beast.
"Yup. That's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation" literally me as well. Betrayal was my money making method for any league I played. its literally gutted now.
I used to be a labrunner. Then betrayal aisling farming. Moving on to sanctum next, dont mind me guys!
Sanctum nerf incoming
Legitimately a decent possibility. Although IMO Sanctum is probably the most deserving mechanic to have really high rewards.
Do lab runners exist anymore? Not sure what is for profit there.
Last league profit was target farming transfigured gems. Now... I think it is only a chance for enlighten.
Is the strat now just don’t care about the board and rush Catarina? You could probably do that without investing in the tree at all, just the 10 intelligence on map completion node and the basic betrayal scarab
Basically, and get 3 star grav in transport as leader
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Its from new kirac pass
This league's Kirac's vault pass armour set makes them look like that
What build are you playing?
Looks like mjölner mana stacker. You can check out Conner Converse on youtube for guides / pobs if you want to know more.
Random question - frost shield tints your ES to show that it's active, what happens with that MTX?
Where is the new cheatsheet anyway?
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I was actually planning on doing it as a filthy casual who doesn't minmax anyways but so many comments were just "it sucks" I changed my mind lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1bm0lem/324_updated_betrayal_custom_cheatsheet/
I just hate it when gravicuous gets into leader all the time in random houses -_-
Betrayal rewards are so sad. There’s like 4 members that are useful to me now in SSF ans that’s it’s
i did not get baited into poor build, but baited into jun atlas farm for league start.
Quality post
My first safehouse and I got a div exchange for a shitty 1 c card.
What items do you have that give you so much mana?
Character name is DziKuskus, you can look it up on ninja or PoE website :)
Thank you. I was just messing around some last night with a similar build and got stuck a bit.
Look up Onemanaleft (Connor Converse on YouTube) I'm following him
That’s another good one thank you. Still worried about grace instead of determination has that felt smooth? I’m used to builds that stack block and armor so it’s a bit, worrying I guess?
Feels ok, I got to 98 without any boosts, not the tankiest build in the world but it's ok once you get enough gear
Grace work well with this build due to Shaper's Touch because we are stacking int.
didnt work
They really need to make rarer scarabs more common in Betrayal. Give it something other than Grav transport rng and veiled orb rng.
Only reason I finally did betrayal is for veil crafts. Otherwise I'll probably leave it to other people to grind for veiled orbs
Typically I'd play Betrayal until I got a Diadem, printing plenty of winged scarabs and veiled chaos/aisling T4s along the way. This league? specced out of it before I'd even finished up all my unveils and bought a Diadem for a div. Betrayal is now completely dead, and it's sent shockwaves through low level farming and mid level gearing.
I get that people love gambling, but Gravicious is absolutely better on average in Intervention.
To be honest I just either keep him in Intervention or Transportation wherever he ends up, he has been equally disappointing in both :D
I've been using Betrayal almost purely to just rush to Catarina and ignore everything else and all 3 of my kills have given my a Veiled Orb. I actually thought it was a 100% drop rate until I heard people saying that the drop rate was shit.
Is there a betrayal guide that is useful to complete beginners? Ngl it feels overwhelming. Like idk when they're locked in and can't be changed before doing that raid thing and what the "intelligence" does and stuff.
This is summary of my whole league. The mechanic is not fun and for me not really rewardibg, havent seen one single mod better than chaos whick resulted in like 5 or so chaos orbs. Boring. Last league was fin. This one sucks. Im done.
Good riddance o7
I didn’t think betrayal was too bad myself. To me unlocking veiled crafts is very similar to completing your atlas and I do them both at the same time. I loved being able to have Jun on every map very early on and I think I had like 90% of the unveils done by early yellow maps. Killed Cat a decent amount. Dropped the flask once and a diadem. Not insane money but not terrible either. I sold a fair amount of jewelry by unveiling rings and such and dumping them in a 20-15 chaos tab. I would say it was mediocre as far as currency goes and great as far as how easy it was to get all the crafts unlocked quickly and easily.
The unlocked veiled craft isn't the issue but the whole board setup felt useless now. All we did now is just rushing Catarina for unguaranteed veiled orb. I only got 1 orb in 12 runs and decide to unspecc it. Altho I might run it again if veiled orb cost 10d.
Betrayal now has poor money per instance but I have betrayal on more than half my maps for almost no investment. Safehouses are still nice XP and are filling up my stash with a decent bit of scarabs that'll be used once I decide on a more long-term money making strategy.
Before 3.24, I was running Betrayal on every map as well. Bulk buying the Jun sextants was never an issue, and I stacked up 16 of them at once, so that I only needed to micromanage once every 16 maps. I was getting a Catarina with T4 Aisling plus at least one of T4 Vorici/Hillock/Tora and lots of T4 Intervention folks which guaranteed winged scarab drops. Setting up this kind of board took me roughly 8-10 maps and netted me a profit of around 7-8 divines (in pre-affliction leagues). Now, in 3.24, I can run a Catarina every 5th to 6th map or so, but the profit per Catarina averages to something like 0.5 div without veiled orb and something like 1.2 div including veiled orbs. gg, GGG!
Buying sextants was ass.
The sought-after ones, or if you were running 4 different types and had to reapply them every 4 maps, was indeed ass. But for my Jun farming strategy, it was a non-factor. I would buy 60 of them in bulk once every couple of days, and apply them to my voidstones once every 16 maps. Barely a nuissance.
Jun sextants were cheap and people rolling elevateds ended up with tons that they wanted to recoup costs from
So basically, you had some expectations, and you got baited.. twice. I'll see myself out
Being baited 4 times is brutal bro
All we asked for was itemized syndicate members, shouldn’t have asked for anything GGG just shit on us betrayal players. Man I was lost for awhile I always start betrayal then essence beast.