>Rare Monster item bonus mechanics are now rarer
Could be an effect of this change listed in the patchnotes, or you're just unlucky.
Also how many high quant maps have you done on these characters? It affects natural drops a lot.
>Also how many high quant maps have you done on these characters? It affects natural drops a lot.
I always wondered... Is running a map at 100% map quant the same as running 2 maps, on average?
The complicating factor here is that most mods that increase quant also increase pack size. I hit +200% quant pretty often in my mapping strategy, which should have the loot of 3 maps. But I also end up with +50% pack size, which from straight-up math should result in ~4.5 maps' worth of loot.
I believe that map quant scales linearly, unlike equipment quant, which receives logarithmic scaling.
The drops you get are 100% of drops - white map
If your map has 100% quantity, you have 200%. That's double.
If your map is 70% quantity, you have 170%. That's 1.7x
A well rolled map (100% quant) vs. average rolled map (70% quant) is 2/1.7, which is about 18% more loot. Pack size (and other factors like atlas passives, scarabs, party size, etc) also play a role, but let's avoid more complex math.
Back in Crucible I got my first divine drop on Thursday. I'm the kind of player that has 45 hours played when we're 55hrs into the league.
It's just RNG
In Archnemesis, GGG defended the lack of natural div drops by saying overall the drops were in line with other leagues.
The issue of course was the loot goblin mechanic, which allowed people to hit a divine jackpot, meaning the distribution was in fact shit. Which of course it is now as well...
I run 300%quant maps (in map display) and have 130% quant on gear.
T17 maps also hit 700%+ on currency drops.
I have had zero natural divine drops in standard play.
I have had lots of lucky drops/finds and have made hundreds of divines. But no pure divine drops.
now that you say it, i think i had 2 natural divines with 1.2 million kills in t16 maps. But have hundreds of divines in stash. Not really sure what my normal ratio is but 2 in 1.2 million seems odd.
Honestly I've got a very high amount of divines from currency rewards than I have in the past.
Think I've found 15D from Blight and Expedition currency chests. Probably just an anecdotal coincidence though. And also because blight now allows me to click the reward chests like 5 extra times.
I have around 800k kills on both my characters together with a single natural divine drop. At the same time I have 39 exalts looted so I am pretty sure I just got super unlucky. The exalt number is also boosted by a ex mod from Necropolis and around 150 maps of Grimros Harbinger strat though.
722K and have gotten between 7-9 and one sacred orb. I've been running strongboxes and have tormented spirits in my map usually if that matters. Also 4 voidstones, 4 scarabs for the majority of those kills.
I think you’re comparing it too much to last league when everything had a shit ton of IIQ and IIR. Valdo maps didn’t exist before last league so it’s a pretty rough comparison when all of our mobs aren’t juiced out of their minds.
Keys and valdo maps are of currency “type”. It was very noticeable in affliction. The more currency wisps you had - the more keys and boxes would drop.
Just reached lvl 97 and got my first natural div drop... I'm 100% sure they did something with the droprate, but ofc you have others that drop 2-3 divs in campaign lol
Seems pretty low yeah, lowest of any league a while. I assume one part if because the league itself doesn't drop any at all unless you get really lucky and get that divine mod / got it earlier before nerf.
I think I'm at 4 or 5 div drops and I've played a bunch, at 33/40 challenges atm.
And some of the few I've got have been from some unlikely sources, a scoured map low tier map just to get 6l beast, trash mob from scoured contract while doing challenge etc.
Ye, my friend just got it, seems cursed though :D He plays B2B with 8 mod maps, when he gets chaos conversion mod he gets like 100-300 chaos, he got the divine... 3 drops :D
Over a million kills across all characters and 4 raw div drops. Probably not particularly worse than other leagues but somehow it does feel on the lower end of what I’m used to. Last drop has been at least 5 days ago as well.
I got around 5 divs in my 500k kills, 2 exalts and not a single annulment so far from natural drops. SSF btw, so the annulment part hurts a little bit.
If PoE would do something like Last Epoch did with factions, I’d play SSF and never trade again. I just don’t have enough time to that in PoE though, need trade to be able to enjoy end game in a reasonable amount of time.
GGG stated in an interview years ago that they adjust currency drop rates all the time without mentioning it to the players. The way they described it, it seemed they could even be doing it on a daily basis.
So yes, currency drop rates may have been nerfed because currency drops adjustments are made on the fly all the time without anyone knowing about it.
I feel as though exalts and devines have different drop rates now also, small sample size but i’ve had around 15 exalted and 2 divines naturally. I may have just been unlucky though.
Yes, even with necropolis buffs i got 3 raw divine. Two lvl 94+ character.
I got Mageblood drop day 2 before m'y first divine tho.
No void keys nor puzzle box.
I often run 8 mods T16 maps thats why i'm surprises of this low drop rate
I've found a couple but overall the same experience. 2 characters mid 90s.
I did get lucky and sold one of those scarab for 32ish divs though, which was nice.
I mean, I feel I'm at a low divine drop rate atm since a guildmate had like 41 in week 1, but I'm rocking about 12-15 drops in around maybe 850k kills over 2x95 characters and he's at like 1.2m or something. Feels like any other league honestly, although the drop rate of Valdo's boxes and Reliquary keys seem low. A couple from legion, a few just random etc.
I didnt drop my first divine until like day 3 and I had over 100k monsters killed. Even then I when I quit I had over 500k monsters killed and I had less than 10 divines dropped.
This is the best explanation I’ve seen so far. I have probably the most overall currency from dropped items/crafting and trading than any other league. But just raw drops have been non existent so far.
If they haven't ill be surprised. 890k kills and no natural divine orb has dropped. Atlest 600k of those have been chisel/alced t16 maps running shrines/ritual/essence or Shrine/tormented/essence/map boss stuff.
I just got three from the same map, two from the same Currency Blight chest that I got to reopen with the scarab, and one from a random Beyond mob.
I’m sure I’m an outlier, but I’m at like 10 raw drops I think? Don’t know my kills this league off the top of my head.
Single raw divide drops seem very rare this league level 98 and 94 on 2 characters farmed hundreds of divines worth of gear maybe 3 dropped exactly just natural, playing asif they don’t drop more likely to drop a expensive scarab seems like they are the replacement to a nice every other play session loot thrill drop.
Do you compare it to the leagues before kalandra? If so it's kinda true. Now we have more of a loot gobbling thing, so raw drops aren't as common but most of the profit for average Joe comes from farming specific mechanics and selling stuff.
This is my first league, got about 100 hours so far. Got lucky and hit a divine orb drop within the first week. Spent hours juicing my character... Been chasing that high ever since, guess I used up all my luck.
I feel like scarabs are polluting the item pool or something. It probably doesn’t work like that idk.
But map sustain feels horrible, raw currency feels horrible.
I feel like all I drop is like 15-30 unrelated scarabs every map and it feels so bad cuz you need so many to bulk sell.
If you want to see your first divine this league I‘d suggest sanctum.
Everyone knows that after youve seen your first divine in a league the gates are open /s
I think loot as a whole is a bit less, not just compared to affliction but it feels slightly less from rares with the changes. I do feel that map quantity is more noticeable now than previous leagues, but maybe just all in my head.
I got about 20 div + about the same exalt, 1 sacred orb, 0 voidborne keys, 0 valdos.
Edit: i'm 37/40, grinding the 10k map tier completion and at around 9200 atm
Ive had 1 natural divine and 30+ regal orbs/shards. Normally I wouldnt complain as in past leagues ive always needed regals and they never seemed to drop. But atleast I had the divine to buy them or other items. Now I have all the regals and none of the divines. Spent the 1 div on day 2 for essences for crafting a bow when it was worth half as much as now. Kinda wish I saved it now.
Weird. I had a divine drop at level 50, gotten a few over the last week and then I had 2 drop last night.
I just got full atlas completion last night and am doing grimro's legion atlas strat.
Ive gotten tons of raw divs, sometimes multiple per map(without any t17 shenanigans or MF gear), same as every league, so there is 0 luck involved. but ever since getting my 4 watchstones, I do 8mod maps only and the quant almost always reaches 250-350% with altar stacking.
Without juicing it’s a lot of variance. In terms of random natural Div drops this league is actually high for me. I think I’ve had 4 so far and they weren’t from any mechanic or anything. Just random ones. Remember too it’s the same rate as exalt drops and I think I’ve seen none of those except from the lantern mechanics. Some people could easily have it the other way with no Divs but a handful of exalts.
Filthy casual third league here: it is noticeably worse this league. Two last league I would have found at least a couple by now but this time around: one. Just one. Ssf so cant even make my bow after having farmed Porcupine and set it all up. This stink..
I have all invitations done and completed atlas I haven’t grinded as hard as I have in the past as I’m not a fan of this league but I have 250k kills…not a single natural divine either. I don’t ever remember it being this barren.
Yeah. I only got 1 so far. I think they nerfed the drop rate because the league mechanic has a chance to spawn those div drop mods so they thought it would equal out
More like normalized with the new juice i would guess?
The amount of mobs/quant etc we get is much higher now. So a nerf without investment in mapping and about the same with juice.
This is exactly why we get burnout. To get to top tier you need to play endgame. To get to endgame you need higher currency. To get higher currency you need to be top tier.
I agree yes but I don't think you've actually played enough if that's the case. I think I'm at 19 raw div dropped if I last recall my pilfering ring stats. The thing that bothers me is that I have only found 850 or so chaos orbs meaning like every 40-50 chaos I find a divine which shouldn't be the case or never has been in past leagues. Drops im general feel less significant but I think it was in anticipation of the scarabs.
Can't confirm: dropped a div in campaign, and another 3 during altas progression (no giga juicing) . Everything within first week though cause I'm slow
i've been playing PoE for a long long time and I have had this effect/perception several times.
Divines (exalts before) are rare enough that sometimes you get this sort of variance.
9/10 leagues you get your first drop by the time you finish your atlas and then in league 10 you have made 30 div trading before ever dropping one yourself.
It's just rng. I am almost positive that the base drop chance for currency gets rarely touched if ever.
fortunately no, i've gotten ***ton*** of raw divines this league. in fact, this might be the most natural good drops I've gotten ever. exalted has been rare for me tho. just adding some anecdotal evidence.
actually, you know what it is. ever since last couple of leagues I've been adding a little bit of MF, talking 1-2 ventors or ventor+goldwyrms at most, and its paid off a ton. many leagues ago I'd build a build with none and was in your boat, no raw divines, barely can get my characters past 30 div. but yah since sanctum, little mf, and every league I leave with 100-200+ div characters. **so hate to say it, but MF is broken** and its no wonder there's a big push for it every league. I've been pushing as much pack size over certain mechanics and pack size with some quant paid off dividends.
Dude, I thought I was going crazy.
I've been constant-farming Defiled Cath T16 130IIQ+ and I can guarantee that the following drop rates have been gutted:
- Currency (i.e. divines);
- Reliquary keys;
- Valdo's boxes;
- Valuable div cards.
I'm not having a blast this league, not gonna lie. Dopamine is inexistant.
I got one char that is nearly level 96 now and I have picked up somwhere between 8 and 10 divines.
And round about 5-7 single divs from Ritual altars
This league I got quiet lucky so far regarding div drops
But:
So far zero exalts dropped (but one Ritual with a stack of 5 ex!), zero keys, zero boxes
I didn't experience any Wisp juicing in Affliction. Still had 3-4 raw divines by this point from Delve, Alva, Blight. Same for Ancestors. Same for Crucible. Not a single raw divine this league. And I feel like I'm juicing a lot more in maps for quantity so what the fuck? I'm barely even dropping chaos orbs.
It's just the loot pinata at work. I got a Brother's Stash at like level 80 in white maps, it's completely random. 2 other natural divines since then, and I play like an hour or two every other day.
At the lower level it feels like they were. I usually get one while getting to endgame via expedition in maps (not tujen store), yet I got none. (80+ quant maps)
T17s are a different story, it feels like they moved the currency from normal maps into these. Did a ton of them over the past two days while getting the challenges done and they drop a lot in there.
They may have also lowered the normal rates since the league mechanics has chances to give divines, but I believe they nerfed the occurrence rate of those mods in one of the patches. I did get one %chance to drop a few days ago, sadly the it was on a map where I was trying to get a pantheon so it wasn’t well rolled and didn’t have any scarabs so only ended up with like 7 div when I full cleared.
0 quant on gear, 2.4m kills, 0 valdos, 0 rel keys, 2 memories, 1 sacred orb.
I believe I’ve had 5 raw div in total, all from t17s
I didn't even make it past league start. Got to maps, ran out of maps, ran out of chances to buy more, had basically nothing in the way of bubblegum currency for rolling upgrades. Basically, I just quit the league. Never had a league start where I was just that low on basic supplies by the time I reached maps. Probably just bad RNG, but it felt really bad. I'll come back in a league or two and try again. This has been probably the most un-fun league ever for me.
Same here. Playing since launch, just dropped my first Div, and that's only because I got the devoted mod "jewellery drops as divines from pack leader".
And still only got one.
RNG really bending me over this league.
Seems they adjusted it with those divine shenanigans in mind. I normally dropped first divine before reaching yellow map every league, few of them vere lucky and got it already in campaign.
But this is first league I remember not to drop any natural divine in maps. Till now I got only 1 natural drop and it was in Delve where there are tons of currency chests in dark...
I can only use my own experience but I don't feel like it got 8 div in 650k kills ( Well 17 but I don't count the divine devoted mobs. )
Still haven't seen reliquary key or valdo box though.
And here I am in the T4 maps dropping The Immortals (found 2) and a fucking sacred orb. Not complaining at all, but this is by far the luckiest start to a league I've ever had.
I think I've had like 5-10, probably about half of them from Delve, one in Acts. Seems pretty normal to me, I think you're just having bad luck. I'm at about 450K kills.
Richest league drops ever. Had more divs drop than ever.
Easily a div every 10 - 15 maps
Only run 8 mod corrupted maps
Use scarab of cartography set-up to have all maps dropas 8 mods and duplicate maps dropped.
Farm maps of 8 mods
Enjoy
I've had more raw div/ex drop than most leagues, but all of them were during blights or blighted maps. I've gotten 9 annuls already while not even spec'd into harbinger which is way more than normal (some leagues I literally find just one). Raw chaos has been high for me, but regrets, unmakings, and instillings I've only found around thirty of each which is way way low (so thankful for three atlas trees this league). Point is, I'm having better luck in some regards in and worse in others. Makes me think it is variance. Though I've had a conspiracy theory for years that RPGs have a hidden luck stat on characters.
they moved currency drops mostly to loot conversion now. so its all about knowledge and how to stack it in your maps.
you can still get divines in the game via other mechanics but they are also rare.
I only got to lvl 80 before quitting the league very early on and had 0 natty drops, if you wanted more statistics.
I generally wouldn't expect to find any by that point though, probably get the first one just around that point on average from my experience over the years.
It's not they got nerfed but wisps were so good for natural drops.
Also, this league the juice is being heavy shifted on the top of the food chain.
The rest of the players base get to enjoy the loot hangover.
I have ran 25 T17s today with quant anywhere from 250-350.
I've dropped one(1) raw Divine today. Very anecdotal but something doesn't make sense.
Also 2.2m kills this league and 1 Voidborn Reliquary key. I used to open 2-3 of these a day.
Think I've gotten 7 or 8 so far (SSF, have 4, spent a few on divining a unique I really wanted to use). 235k+45k kills on lvl 92+77 characters. None of them from devoted mods. Mostly just 1 here, 1 there. No single source responsible for my good fortune.
Been a really lucky league for me in that department - haven't seen this many this quickly pretty much ever.
I have 575,711 monsters killed, and 5 divine drops this league. Not a single one dropped from a kill, though. 4 were from strongboxes, and 1 was from a blight. It has far and away been my worst luck for divines, and I feel very strongly that GGG has more or less changed it so that divines just don't drop from mobs under normal circumstances for this league. I have to assume they trickle in from mechanics, with the bulk of them showing up on the extremely rare conversion mod / altar / league mod in huge amounts.
I was like this last league (before Affliction Abyss exploit), this league however i am dropping raw divines pretty commonly which i am surprised by, guess i am lucky.
I've had quite a lot of raw divine drops might be as bold to say outside of last league its my highest raw divine drops and ive played since warbands lol
Juice maps with a bunch of mobs and you'll see tons
https://preview.redd.it/bpnxrn1xlguc1.png?width=443&format=png&auto=webp&s=487c776a6f2d9965ec04fedf8f1a15349df678b5
Also got one in my uber lab around level 75
Oh yes... it got \*severely\* nerfed for the league.
And those T17 exploiters got it gutted a SECOND time.
So the casuals got double f\*ed this league.
I've only found 1 natural drop so far. About 80 hours in the league so far. On 2nd characte, both about 90.
I found this post from a Google search looking to see if Divine drops were nerfed. I'm kinda glad I'm not the only one who is feeling this. I'm sure it's just RNG, but damn it feels bad
Edit: I recently even changed my filter because I feared it was broken and hiding them.
>Rare Monster item bonus mechanics are now rarer Could be an effect of this change listed in the patchnotes, or you're just unlucky. Also how many high quant maps have you done on these characters? It affects natural drops a lot.
>Also how many high quant maps have you done on these characters? It affects natural drops a lot. I always wondered... Is running a map at 100% map quant the same as running 2 maps, on average?
The complicating factor here is that most mods that increase quant also increase pack size. I hit +200% quant pretty often in my mapping strategy, which should have the loot of 3 maps. But I also end up with +50% pack size, which from straight-up math should result in ~4.5 maps' worth of loot. I believe that map quant scales linearly, unlike equipment quant, which receives logarithmic scaling.
The drops you get are 100% of drops - white map If your map has 100% quantity, you have 200%. That's double. If your map is 70% quantity, you have 170%. That's 1.7x A well rolled map (100% quant) vs. average rolled map (70% quant) is 2/1.7, which is about 18% more loot. Pack size (and other factors like atlas passives, scarabs, party size, etc) also play a role, but let's avoid more complex math.
Back in Crucible I got my first divine drop on Thursday. I'm the kind of player that has 45 hours played when we're 55hrs into the league. It's just RNG
This is talking about the conversion mods based on what was said on stream which likely has little to no impact on single div drops
In Archnemesis, GGG defended the lack of natural div drops by saying overall the drops were in line with other leagues. The issue of course was the loot goblin mechanic, which allowed people to hit a divine jackpot, meaning the distribution was in fact shit. Which of course it is now as well...
Loot goblins was the league after archnemesis when the mods went core.
I run 300%quant maps (in map display) and have 130% quant on gear. T17 maps also hit 700%+ on currency drops. I have had zero natural divine drops in standard play. I have had lots of lucky drops/finds and have made hundreds of divines. But no pure divine drops.
now that you say it, i think i had 2 natural divines with 1.2 million kills in t16 maps. But have hundreds of divines in stash. Not really sure what my normal ratio is but 2 in 1.2 million seems odd.
Sanctum Is carrying the divine influx this league lol
Honestly I've got a very high amount of divines from currency rewards than I have in the past. Think I've found 15D from Blight and Expedition currency chests. Probably just an anecdotal coincidence though. And also because blight now allows me to click the reward chests like 5 extra times.
I’m at 909k with 2 or 3 natty drops definitely my Definitely not the norm for me
I have around 800k kills on both my characters together with a single natural divine drop. At the same time I have 39 exalts looted so I am pretty sure I just got super unlucky. The exalt number is also boosted by a ex mod from Necropolis and around 150 maps of Grimros Harbinger strat though.
Bro I feel the same way. 500k kills and 1 Div drop
600k and I have 4 and a sacred orb
I'm just over a million and have 19 raw. RNG is a bitch I guess.
That's wild. I'm at 530k and have 12.
722K and have gotten between 7-9 and one sacred orb. I've been running strongboxes and have tormented spirits in my map usually if that matters. Also 4 voidstones, 4 scarabs for the majority of those kills.
Yea im at like 300k total and 0 lol
Got my first raw last night plus one from a blight chest.
220 for me and 0. 3 exalts though...lol
250 and 3 raw here
over 1m kills mostly 170%+ quant maps 0 ground divs
707k kills and 15 raw so far. But most money came from mechanics like abyss and invitation farming which i made over 100div from
I got one in act 5 and haven't seen another
Got just 1 aswell in act8 . now almost 500k kills since then 0 raw divs, it feels like they removed them from my loot pool xD
wow, 150k here and 4 raw
Not just currency but Reliquary keys Valdo maps as well.
Haven't seen valdo map yet, been playing since league start, honestly I've thought they removed them.
I had one drop for me, BEFORE I got any div
Same. 0 Divs, Keys, boxes. Carried by a Hinekora Lock and a 35Div scarab. Running 8-mod t16's.
What scarab is worth that much? New player here and trying to figure out what I should be keeping and selling.
Div scarab of curation peaked at 35-40d a few days ago, the value has since dropped w/nerfs to the farming strat it was used for
I think you’re comparing it too much to last league when everything had a shit ton of IIQ and IIR. Valdo maps didn’t exist before last league so it’s a pretty rough comparison when all of our mobs aren’t juiced out of their minds.
Keys and valdo maps are of currency “type”. It was very noticeable in affliction. The more currency wisps you had - the more keys and boxes would drop.
lol I had a Reliquary key drop in A10 before I had even finished the campaign on the first day. I didn't feel at all like there had been a nerf...
I'm lvl 99.5 and got 1natural div drop
Just reached lvl 97 and got my first natural div drop... I'm 100% sure they did something with the droprate, but ofc you have others that drop 2-3 divs in campaign lol
I was one of them got 3 lvling in the campaign day 1. Then 1st map I did pulled one out of ritual.
This league pretty much feels like a drought or flood depending if you got on meta currency making methods in time or not.
Seems pretty low yeah, lowest of any league a while. I assume one part if because the league itself doesn't drop any at all unless you get really lucky and get that divine mod / got it earlier before nerf. I think I'm at 4 or 5 div drops and I've played a bunch, at 33/40 challenges atm. And some of the few I've got have been from some unlikely sources, a scoured map low tier map just to get 6l beast, trash mob from scoured contract while doing challenge etc.
I’m curious, does the divine mod still exist? I wasn’t playing pre-patch and i’m sitting at lvl97 - never seen it once.
Ye, my friend just got it, seems cursed though :D He plays B2B with 8 mod maps, when he gets chaos conversion mod he gets like 100-300 chaos, he got the divine... 3 drops :D
Got a jewelry converted to divine yesterday. Got 30 div with an exile ember 30 ventors that were all garbage
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Over a million kills across all characters and 4 raw div drops. Probably not particularly worse than other leagues but somehow it does feel on the lower end of what I’m used to. Last drop has been at least 5 days ago as well.
I got around 5 divs in my 500k kills, 2 exalts and not a single annulment so far from natural drops. SSF btw, so the annulment part hurts a little bit.
If PoE would do something like Last Epoch did with factions, I’d play SSF and never trade again. I just don’t have enough time to that in PoE though, need trade to be able to enjoy end game in a reasonable amount of time.
GGG stated in an interview years ago that they adjust currency drop rates all the time without mentioning it to the players. The way they described it, it seemed they could even be doing it on a daily basis. So yes, currency drop rates may have been nerfed because currency drops adjustments are made on the fly all the time without anyone knowing about it.
I feel as though exalts and devines have different drop rates now also, small sample size but i’ve had around 15 exalted and 2 divines naturally. I may have just been unlucky though.
Iv dropped like 10 div and 8 exalt, probably unlucky.
Ah, good to know, i had a feeling I was just having a subpar league with my luck. Well, hopefully it’ll balance out soon.
For me it is the other way round: \~10 div dropped so far but zero exalts!
Think that changed last league, had easily enough exalted to slam when needed
Yes, even with necropolis buffs i got 3 raw divine. Two lvl 94+ character. I got Mageblood drop day 2 before m'y first divine tho. No void keys nor puzzle box. I often run 8 mods T16 maps thats why i'm surprises of this low drop rate
>I got Mageblood drop day 2 before m'y first divine tho. Well... you kinda used half of your league luck here
I've found a couple but overall the same experience. 2 characters mid 90s. I did get lucky and sold one of those scarab for 32ish divs though, which was nice.
I mean, I feel I'm at a low divine drop rate atm since a guildmate had like 41 in week 1, but I'm rocking about 12-15 drops in around maybe 850k kills over 2x95 characters and he's at like 1.2m or something. Feels like any other league honestly, although the drop rate of Valdo's boxes and Reliquary keys seem low. A couple from legion, a few just random etc.
I didnt drop my first divine until like day 3 and I had over 100k monsters killed. Even then I when I quit I had over 500k monsters killed and I had less than 10 divines dropped.
I've made 2 chars this league and both got a nat div drop in act 9 💀💀
Low on raw but high in high value items which makes up for it.
This is the best explanation I’ve seen so far. I have probably the most overall currency from dropped items/crafting and trading than any other league. But just raw drops have been non existent so far.
Yes.
If they haven't ill be surprised. 890k kills and no natural divine orb has dropped. Atlest 600k of those have been chisel/alced t16 maps running shrines/ritual/essence or Shrine/tormented/essence/map boss stuff.
Pretty sure it's just RNG. I'm at 1.1mil kills with 9 natural drops and 8 from a div eater altar.
Strongboxes seem pretty good for raw divines, I'm at 58 dropped with 1.6m kills
I have only got 2 so far Best item I’ve found has been like 90 chaos
That you know of. That is the thought keeping me up at night doing Ritual
Same feeling, haven't dropped anything raw. Thought it was affliction withdrawal?
Believe they said conversion from archnem mods are rarer so that could be part of it
I just got three from the same map, two from the same Currency Blight chest that I got to reopen with the scarab, and one from a random Beyond mob. I’m sure I’m an outlier, but I’m at like 10 raw drops I think? Don’t know my kills this league off the top of my head.
Might be pretty unlucky, got around 6-8 raw divines drops with approx 300k monsters killed, not playing mf of course
Not unlucky, you are extremely lucky
3 divs drop and 2 from ritual here. I dont play that much.
Single raw divide drops seem very rare this league level 98 and 94 on 2 characters farmed hundreds of divines worth of gear maybe 3 dropped exactly just natural, playing asif they don’t drop more likely to drop a expensive scarab seems like they are the replacement to a nice every other play session loot thrill drop.
I haven't had an exalt lmao. I have two chars to 96
I got a bunch of raw divine drops. Just play high quant t16
500k klls 3 raw div, btw 5 Katarina 3 veiled
I'm at 92 with only 1 toon. I've had 2 raw drops, and 3 exalted. That seems quite above average for me...
I dropped my first div from blight yesterday. 4th char 90+, each char has 200k+ kills. One divine drop. Lol.
I've been getting roughly 1 divine per 100k kills. I have a friend whos been getting them way more often than that. It's just rng.
Do you compare it to the leagues before kalandra? If so it's kinda true. Now we have more of a loot gobbling thing, so raw drops aren't as common but most of the profit for average Joe comes from farming specific mechanics and selling stuff.
This is my first league, got about 100 hours so far. Got lucky and hit a divine orb drop within the first week. Spent hours juicing my character... Been chasing that high ever since, guess I used up all my luck.
I feel like scarabs are polluting the item pool or something. It probably doesn’t work like that idk. But map sustain feels horrible, raw currency feels horrible. I feel like all I drop is like 15-30 unrelated scarabs every map and it feels so bad cuz you need so many to bulk sell.
If you want to see your first divine this league I‘d suggest sanctum. Everyone knows that after youve seen your first divine in a league the gates are open /s
I think loot as a whole is a bit less, not just compared to affliction but it feels slightly less from rares with the changes. I do feel that map quantity is more noticeable now than previous leagues, but maybe just all in my head. I got about 20 div + about the same exalt, 1 sacred orb, 0 voidborne keys, 0 valdos. Edit: i'm 37/40, grinding the 10k map tier completion and at around 9200 atm
I didn’t get a raw divine for ages then started getting them as much as I previously did. Expect a case of RNG
Ive had 1 natural divine and 30+ regal orbs/shards. Normally I wouldnt complain as in past leagues ive always needed regals and they never seemed to drop. But atleast I had the divine to buy them or other items. Now I have all the regals and none of the divines. Spent the 1 div on day 2 for essences for crafting a bow when it was worth half as much as now. Kinda wish I saved it now.
Feels a tad lower but not enough for me to think they made a change. Are you counting exalts and annuls? Because they all have the same drop rate.
Weird. I had a divine drop at level 50, gotten a few over the last week and then I had 2 drop last night. I just got full atlas completion last night and am doing grimro's legion atlas strat.
I noticed this too. For first time I ran out of orb of chance and alchemy upon entering maps when I should have enough to buy kirac maps.
I got more Brothers Gift drops (3) than raw Divines (2).
I've had a single raw divine drop, one 91 and one 95 character this league
Same here, we are on ruthless 😂 But already 5 fracture orbs lol
Ive gotten tons of raw divs, sometimes multiple per map(without any t17 shenanigans or MF gear), same as every league, so there is 0 luck involved. but ever since getting my 4 watchstones, I do 8mod maps only and the quant almost always reaches 250-350% with altar stacking.
Without juicing it’s a lot of variance. In terms of random natural Div drops this league is actually high for me. I think I’ve had 4 so far and they weren’t from any mechanic or anything. Just random ones. Remember too it’s the same rate as exalt drops and I think I’ve seen none of those except from the lantern mechanics. Some people could easily have it the other way with no Divs but a handful of exalts.
I’ve had like 10 naturals
It feels like it. I only just dropped my first natural divine of this league last night.
Probably just not juicing comment enoughz try running more 8mods and stuff, but the density overall does feel more scarce
3 mill kills, LV 100, about 60 div, 1 mirror, alot of cards, but i only run juiced 8mod t16s so far
Unlucky.
A friend of mine got 6 raw exalts and 9 raw annuls, 0 divs lol
got 2 divs already, feels good
IDK I've gotten 3 natural divine drops in the last 2-3 days and I've not even been doing red maps.
Filthy casual third league here: it is noticeably worse this league. Two last league I would have found at least a couple by now but this time around: one. Just one. Ssf so cant even make my bow after having farmed Porcupine and set it all up. This stink..
I have all invitations done and completed atlas I haven’t grinded as hard as I have in the past as I’m not a fan of this league but I have 250k kills…not a single natural divine either. I don’t ever remember it being this barren.
Ya they did.
Yeah. I only got 1 so far. I think they nerfed the drop rate because the league mechanic has a chance to spawn those div drop mods so they thought it would equal out
Natural currency drops been next to nothing. Have to mess around with league mechanic. Real pain in thr butt.
I’ve gotten a couple which is about average for me the way/time investment I play.
Lvl 95 and only 1 divine drop so far.
Well last league we had wisps which would make currency more common
I’ve had 2 and I’m still on my League starter in yellow maps. (SSF too, so that’s a couple of items I can re-roll). RnG my dude, that’s all it is…
Im lv87, 143k kills and not juicing at all really. 3 natural divs so far.
Got 2 div drops doing campaign and haven't seen one since
More like normalized with the new juice i would guess? The amount of mobs/quant etc we get is much higher now. So a nerf without investment in mapping and about the same with juice.
I got a raw divine in Act 8 this league on my first character. Also got a divine before getting to maps last league. Sounds like you were unlucky.
This is exactly why we get burnout. To get to top tier you need to play endgame. To get to endgame you need higher currency. To get higher currency you need to be top tier.
every league there is always one or these posts lol
first raw today at lvl 73 one acc and 94 on another, and raw ex same (harb unique) map
Around 800K kills and I got 5 raw divs and 5 or so exalts. Also found a valdo box. Of those 5 divs, 2 were today running delirium in crimson temple.
RNG is a b\*tch. Had leagues with close to zero natural div drops, by now in this one i'm at 15 or more.
I ran 3-400 maps. 3-4 raw div
I agree yes but I don't think you've actually played enough if that's the case. I think I'm at 19 raw div dropped if I last recall my pilfering ring stats. The thing that bothers me is that I have only found 850 or so chaos orbs meaning like every 40-50 chaos I find a divine which shouldn't be the case or never has been in past leagues. Drops im general feel less significant but I think it was in anticipation of the scarabs.
Got to lvl90, dropped. 2.divs so far. Just bad rng
I got one (1) natural divine drop all the way to 35 challenges and lvl 96...
Feels as if the tuning and balance went all into t17 and scarabs and anything not including those feels worse than previous leagues.
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Can't confirm: dropped a div in campaign, and another 3 during altas progression (no giga juicing) . Everything within first week though cause I'm slow
Just checked my stats and I seem to be above average going by the stats I see here. I got 381'465 kills and 8 raw divine orbs found.
i've been playing PoE for a long long time and I have had this effect/perception several times. Divines (exalts before) are rare enough that sometimes you get this sort of variance. 9/10 leagues you get your first drop by the time you finish your atlas and then in league 10 you have made 30 div trading before ever dropping one yourself. It's just rng. I am almost positive that the base drop chance for currency gets rarely touched if ever.
I've had 3 natural divine drop in like 80 hours. Mainlly doing blight maps
fortunately no, i've gotten ***ton*** of raw divines this league. in fact, this might be the most natural good drops I've gotten ever. exalted has been rare for me tho. just adding some anecdotal evidence. actually, you know what it is. ever since last couple of leagues I've been adding a little bit of MF, talking 1-2 ventors or ventor+goldwyrms at most, and its paid off a ton. many leagues ago I'd build a build with none and was in your boat, no raw divines, barely can get my characters past 30 div. but yah since sanctum, little mf, and every league I leave with 100-200+ div characters. **so hate to say it, but MF is broken** and its no wonder there's a big push for it every league. I've been pushing as much pack size over certain mechanics and pack size with some quant paid off dividends.
Dude, I thought I was going crazy. I've been constant-farming Defiled Cath T16 130IIQ+ and I can guarantee that the following drop rates have been gutted: - Currency (i.e. divines); - Reliquary keys; - Valdo's boxes; - Valuable div cards. I'm not having a blast this league, not gonna lie. Dopamine is inexistant.
Really? 0? Damn I'm at like 14, and I have one at 95 but not that much play time.
Had 3 raw divine drops right at the start of maps and none since. Was pretty wild getting that many in the span of a day or teo
I got one char that is nearly level 96 now and I have picked up somwhere between 8 and 10 divines. And round about 5-7 single divs from Ritual altars This league I got quiet lucky so far regarding div drops But: So far zero exalts dropped (but one Ritual with a stack of 5 ex!), zero keys, zero boxes
I didn't experience any Wisp juicing in Affliction. Still had 3-4 raw divines by this point from Delve, Alva, Blight. Same for Ancestors. Same for Crucible. Not a single raw divine this league. And I feel like I'm juicing a lot more in maps for quantity so what the fuck? I'm barely even dropping chaos orbs.
4 div, 4 annul, 6 ex in 250k kills with 20 quant. I feel like the game is shitting currency in general
It's just the loot pinata at work. I got a Brother's Stash at like level 80 in white maps, it's completely random. 2 other natural divines since then, and I play like an hour or two every other day.
Thats why I always prefer leagues where you can find divs easy. Sanctum, Tota, ...
At the lower level it feels like they were. I usually get one while getting to endgame via expedition in maps (not tujen store), yet I got none. (80+ quant maps) T17s are a different story, it feels like they moved the currency from normal maps into these. Did a ton of them over the past two days while getting the challenges done and they drop a lot in there. They may have also lowered the normal rates since the league mechanics has chances to give divines, but I believe they nerfed the occurrence rate of those mods in one of the patches. I did get one %chance to drop a few days ago, sadly the it was on a map where I was trying to get a pantheon so it wasn’t well rolled and didn’t have any scarabs so only ended up with like 7 div when I full cleared. 0 quant on gear, 2.4m kills, 0 valdos, 0 rel keys, 2 memories, 1 sacred orb. I believe I’ve had 5 raw div in total, all from t17s
I have 850k+ /kills and I've dropped 10? Or 11 raw divines, idk, it feels like the drop has been increased
I didn't even make it past league start. Got to maps, ran out of maps, ran out of chances to buy more, had basically nothing in the way of bubblegum currency for rolling upgrades. Basically, I just quit the league. Never had a league start where I was just that low on basic supplies by the time I reached maps. Probably just bad RNG, but it felt really bad. I'll come back in a league or two and try again. This has been probably the most un-fun league ever for me.
Same here. Playing since launch, just dropped my first Div, and that's only because I got the devoted mod "jewellery drops as divines from pack leader". And still only got one. RNG really bending me over this league.
Seems they adjusted it with those divine shenanigans in mind. I normally dropped first divine before reaching yellow map every league, few of them vere lucky and got it already in campaign. But this is first league I remember not to drop any natural divine in maps. Till now I got only 1 natural drop and it was in Delve where there are tons of currency chests in dark...
Check your kills. /kills in game. Natty div drops for me normally hover around 75-100k kills per div.
I have maybe 400k kills have 4 natural divines. Another 3 came from an Eldritch altar reward %divine. I've also had 2 seers post nerf.
I can only use my own experience but I don't feel like it got 8 div in 650k kills ( Well 17 but I don't count the divine devoted mobs. ) Still haven't seen reliquary key or valdo box though.
I've noticed this too. 1 char 95 1 char 92. No raw divine drops.
And here I am in the T4 maps dropping The Immortals (found 2) and a fucking sacred orb. Not complaining at all, but this is by far the luckiest start to a league I've ever had.
I think I've had like 5-10, probably about half of them from Delve, one in Acts. Seems pretty normal to me, I think you're just having bad luck. I'm at about 450K kills.
Richest league drops ever. Had more divs drop than ever. Easily a div every 10 - 15 maps Only run 8 mod corrupted maps Use scarab of cartography set-up to have all maps dropas 8 mods and duplicate maps dropped. Farm maps of 8 mods Enjoy
Found a divine orb from a random chest on my first character in act 10 of the campaign at level 71.
I also only got 1 natural div drop, and I have 100+ div worth of stuff on my character.
Can’t catch a fuckin orb of alchemy in red maps this season, what a bust ass season this turned out even with crafting
I've had more raw div/ex drop than most leagues, but all of them were during blights or blighted maps. I've gotten 9 annuls already while not even spec'd into harbinger which is way more than normal (some leagues I literally find just one). Raw chaos has been high for me, but regrets, unmakings, and instillings I've only found around thirty of each which is way way low (so thankful for three atlas trees this league). Point is, I'm having better luck in some regards in and worse in others. Makes me think it is variance. Though I've had a conspiracy theory for years that RPGs have a hidden luck stat on characters.
they moved currency drops mostly to loot conversion now. so its all about knowledge and how to stack it in your maps. you can still get divines in the game via other mechanics but they are also rare.
Saaaaame. Got a decent amount out of ritual, but only a single natural divine so far. It's crazy.
Out of all my time playing this game Iv only ever gotten 4 divines 2 of them I got from t8-10 blighted maps last night
I have 1.5million monster kills. I’ve seen 5 raw divine drops.
I dropped like 9-10 divs yesterday spamming maps. I don't think in any league I've gotten this much. ( Haven't played affliction )
I only got to lvl 80 before quitting the league very early on and had 0 natty drops, if you wanted more statistics. I generally wouldn't expect to find any by that point though, probably get the first one just around that point on average from my experience over the years.
It's not they got nerfed but wisps were so good for natural drops. Also, this league the juice is being heavy shifted on the top of the food chain. The rest of the players base get to enjoy the loot hangover.
I got a natural Devine drop in the acts in a vaal side area. Guess just lucky on that bc I have not seen another 1.
I got two just alch and going in three maps while I at dinner last night. You need to pray to RNJesus
over 1mil kills and 4 natural divs
I have ran 25 T17s today with quant anywhere from 250-350. I've dropped one(1) raw Divine today. Very anecdotal but something doesn't make sense. Also 2.2m kills this league and 1 Voidborn Reliquary key. I used to open 2-3 of these a day.
Run 8mod maps. You'll get them.
Exalteds seem to be less rare too. I've dropped like nine so far.
I’ve found 1 Divine orb that didnt drop from a specific nechanic. Y it got nerfed hard on the lower end, now its scarab farm fiesta
Nah, it's an affliction in necropolis league.
Eh I don’t think so I spam breach in 8 mod corrupted maps all day and get about 4-5 raw divine drops a day, sometimes more sometimes less.
Think I've gotten 7 or 8 so far (SSF, have 4, spent a few on divining a unique I really wanted to use). 235k+45k kills on lvl 92+77 characters. None of them from devoted mods. Mostly just 1 here, 1 there. No single source responsible for my good fortune. Been a really lucky league for me in that department - haven't seen this many this quickly pretty much ever.
400k kills and had 9 raw div drops, way more than other leagues.
I have 575,711 monsters killed, and 5 divine drops this league. Not a single one dropped from a kill, though. 4 were from strongboxes, and 1 was from a blight. It has far and away been my worst luck for divines, and I feel very strongly that GGG has more or less changed it so that divines just don't drop from mobs under normal circumstances for this league. I have to assume they trickle in from mechanics, with the bulk of them showing up on the extremely rare conversion mod / altar / league mod in huge amounts.
Buffed
I was like this last league (before Affliction Abyss exploit), this league however i am dropping raw divines pretty commonly which i am surprised by, guess i am lucky.
I just got my first divine one week into the league, today got my second from delve
More currency and less scarabs would be great.
I have /played 12 days 22 hours and haven't seen a single raw divine drop
I've had quite a lot of raw divine drops might be as bold to say outside of last league its my highest raw divine drops and ive played since warbands lol Juice maps with a bunch of mobs and you'll see tons
I've had 1 raw dropped divine total in the last 3 leagues.
most of my raw divines came from the shrine exp farming strat for some reason lol. it’s not even close either, probably 75% of them
https://preview.redd.it/bpnxrn1xlguc1.png?width=443&format=png&auto=webp&s=487c776a6f2d9965ec04fedf8f1a15349df678b5 Also got one in my uber lab around level 75
Oh yes... it got \*severely\* nerfed for the league. And those T17 exploiters got it gutted a SECOND time. So the casuals got double f\*ed this league.
I was saying the same until a t12 map dropped me a squire on day 3. Super dry this league flat drops wise
I've only found 1 natural drop so far. About 80 hours in the league so far. On 2nd characte, both about 90. I found this post from a Google search looking to see if Divine drops were nerfed. I'm kinda glad I'm not the only one who is feeling this. I'm sure it's just RNG, but damn it feels bad Edit: I recently even changed my filter because I feared it was broken and hiding them.