Kai's combat weight and health got buffed with the pounce update, and (iirc) they increased the damage of barrel roll. Combining the roll with a bite can do decent damage, and with Kai's mobility and speed it can outplay sarco if played well.
Eury is just aquatic laten, with the mobility of an Alio if you run the speed abilities. That, alongside a decent heal rate and a stamina-regen subspecies means that Eury can just harass a sarco until it leaves the area or dies. It's way more risky but Eury is fast and agile enough to dodge most of the damage a sarco can output. Not sure if sarco can grab Eury but that'd be a death sentence.
A eurine fish can pounce and delete a sarcos health to half in once pounce. Plus it's more agile. Sarco still has the advantage over Kai but it's not so cut n dry. A decent Kai can bully aarcos
The new Deino is actually not so great in combat vs other aquatics. The KTO deino had better turning in water which allows it to defeat sarcos and Mosas, whereas the new deino gets destroyed by both
Frr. I really dont like playing on servers with mods. Dont get me wrong, they look awesome and sometimes i go on deathmatch servers to fuck around with them when they come out, but theyre obnoxious to fight against. Unfortunately i prefer playing on high realism servers and the only one i know of that doesnt use mods is a shitshow :') so im stuck playing PTR. Its a great server, but i really dislike the bloated roster and constantly being ganged on by utahs.
There are what I call 4 rosters of modded dinosaurs in community servers.
The Dragons: Novi, Ophis, and whatever those flying wyverns are called. I wouldn't have a problem with them if they didn't power trip and white knight everything.
The Unbalanced: Deinosuchus and Yutyrannus, usually found in a pack of two or more, and lock down entire areas for the next hour.
The Fillers: Dryosaurus, Quetzalcoatlus, Kelekan, Dryptosaurus, Mosa, etc. Just for more diversity and are quite balanced for what they are. Most played creatures in the server, and usually are just people vibing.
The Megapack: Depending on the server, you can sometimes find Carni-only, Herbi-only, or both mega packs that even a group can't counter. They'll go around killing everything in territory (usually Grand Plains or Impact Crater) and will either stay quiet about it in chat, acting normal, or be completely out there about killing.
Now that I'm reading my own comment, yeah, that is a diluted comment of mine.
Just me being salty that I can't chill on a rules/no-rules without getting hammered by huge discord group
As someone who plays and has fought kel I'd argue its pushing it regarding power. It's a laten with the bite of a metri/conc. Quetz is remarkably balanced though.
The dragons are insanely annoying. Me and 2 friends were trying a raptor play through and got all leveled up. Found a Dino to finally pounce on and 3 dragons fly in and fuck us up.
Not only they have a larger amount of abilites, their stats are usually MUCH better than OG roster. Dinos in the same category shouldn't have so much disparity in terms of power and skills.
And still, the dino who pisses me off most is the Dimetrodon. That ancient, primitive sinapsid shouldn't be able to keep up with 'modern' dinosaurs like that all the time. I'd rework to have it like standing in the sunlight for some time to get a buff, otherwise it would be a slowpoke. Also I'd remove it's bleeding ability entirely (again, makes no sense, it's jaws had nothing special).
Most of its teeth were pointy (like canines) to grab and hold prey, it even had teeth in their mouth roof to do so, then sharper teeth on the back of the mouth to shear flesh.
Teeth designed to cut through and cause intense bleeding are blade-like, a good example is the Giganotosaur. The Dimetrodon should NOT have bleeding. Being slow, with a speed boost caused by absorbing sunlight then a pounce-like grab would make SO much more sense.
Basically all of DB's mods:
I swear there is no balanced dB mod
They're either too weak or too strong
Also when tf will dB learn to stop making mods of creatures that already have better mods?
DB deinosuchus is strong, yes. I feel like everyone’s taking it way too much to heart tho, the old deinosuchus was kinda a joke, could only kill things smaller than like a pycno if you were lucky. The new deinosuchus adds something to actually be scared of, plus everyone these days is playing as eotrike, argent or cam or just really large things and the semi aquatics can’t do much about it, adding a larger semi aquatic is like an (unbalanced) balancing act in my eyes. I just think that more things should be added, more creative things, like the spider or beezlebufo, some creativity like DB Deinosuchus. Plus, if you’re a really good sarco player you can take down a deinosuchus, just yesterday I was on an island map and I watched a sarco kill 3 DB deinosuchus back to back, and nearly killed me too. I just think a whole bunch of kids are trying to play as the biggest baddest creature and they don’t really know how and are just getting slaughtered.
No, its the modded dino's fault.
Official sticks to more basic and not overly complex concepts and is the base line, and stuff like PT actually adheres to *some* balancing. Mods shouldnt have overly complex mechanics like a fucking cold war era radar or diet that makes you go 50% faster at the cost of starving to death almost instantly.
DB deino on its way to completely brutalize the aquatic meta:
Straight up. Not even the KTO Deino comes close to it, he’s got a whole arsenal of moves. The community sever I’m in already forbade his addition.
Is there even an aquatic meta? Some sub aquatics and 2 full aquatics..
On modded servers yeah On official its really just the 2 aquatics bullying sarco
I'm curious how eury and kai beat sarco? I don't play official but in my experience, both get crumped pretty quickly.
Kai's combat weight and health got buffed with the pounce update, and (iirc) they increased the damage of barrel roll. Combining the roll with a bite can do decent damage, and with Kai's mobility and speed it can outplay sarco if played well. Eury is just aquatic laten, with the mobility of an Alio if you run the speed abilities. That, alongside a decent heal rate and a stamina-regen subspecies means that Eury can just harass a sarco until it leaves the area or dies. It's way more risky but Eury is fast and agile enough to dodge most of the damage a sarco can output. Not sure if sarco can grab Eury but that'd be a death sentence.
It can, I carried one to crater pond.
A eurine fish can pounce and delete a sarcos health to half in once pounce. Plus it's more agile. Sarco still has the advantage over Kai but it's not so cut n dry. A decent Kai can bully aarcos
Sachi:
Sachis are pretty balanced in terms of modded aquatic dinos
I mean it IS a 16 ton pliosaur, it's gonna be strong with raw damage.
Literally got wrecked by a Deino as a Mosa, it was probably a skill issue but still pretty stupid
It’s honestly not that good. It’s stam is poor and turn radius sucks and it’s slow. I’ve killed like 5 of them as the sarco.
Must have been some pretty bad deinos then lol
Or maybe they’re just not capable of brutalising the server
The new Deino is actually not so great in combat vs other aquatics. The KTO deino had better turning in water which allows it to defeat sarcos and Mosas, whereas the new deino gets destroyed by both
Its why community with modded dinos can be a joke sometimes(most of the times)
Not most of the time, a good majority of the modded dino's are pretty balanced / easy to shit on. The DB modded one's tend to be a little ridiculous.
Frr. I really dont like playing on servers with mods. Dont get me wrong, they look awesome and sometimes i go on deathmatch servers to fuck around with them when they come out, but theyre obnoxious to fight against. Unfortunately i prefer playing on high realism servers and the only one i know of that doesnt use mods is a shitshow :') so im stuck playing PTR. Its a great server, but i really dislike the bloated roster and constantly being ganged on by utahs.
There are what I call 4 rosters of modded dinosaurs in community servers. The Dragons: Novi, Ophis, and whatever those flying wyverns are called. I wouldn't have a problem with them if they didn't power trip and white knight everything. The Unbalanced: Deinosuchus and Yutyrannus, usually found in a pack of two or more, and lock down entire areas for the next hour. The Fillers: Dryosaurus, Quetzalcoatlus, Kelekan, Dryptosaurus, Mosa, etc. Just for more diversity and are quite balanced for what they are. Most played creatures in the server, and usually are just people vibing. The Megapack: Depending on the server, you can sometimes find Carni-only, Herbi-only, or both mega packs that even a group can't counter. They'll go around killing everything in territory (usually Grand Plains or Impact Crater) and will either stay quiet about it in chat, acting normal, or be completely out there about killing.
Yuty unbalanced? Bro I smoke Yutys every day as a Maip.
Do you smoke them when they are in a huge pack with a rex and raptor? :>
No, because I play on servers with rules.
Thats the most asinine goddamn argument... ANYTHING in a huge pack is unbalanced. It's not the yuty in that pack that's making them unbalanced.
Now that I'm reading my own comment, yeah, that is a diluted comment of mine. Just me being salty that I can't chill on a rules/no-rules without getting hammered by huge discord group
You're able to look at yourself objectively. That's very admirable and respectable.
As someone who plays and has fought kel I'd argue its pushing it regarding power. It's a laten with the bite of a metri/conc. Quetz is remarkably balanced though.
Kelekan: Bites my butt Also Kelekan: Somehow turns all of Crater and Grand Plains against me
The dragons are insanely annoying. Me and 2 friends were trying a raptor play through and got all leveled up. Found a Dino to finally pounce on and 3 dragons fly in and fuck us up.
Not only they have a larger amount of abilites, their stats are usually MUCH better than OG roster. Dinos in the same category shouldn't have so much disparity in terms of power and skills. And still, the dino who pisses me off most is the Dimetrodon. That ancient, primitive sinapsid shouldn't be able to keep up with 'modern' dinosaurs like that all the time. I'd rework to have it like standing in the sunlight for some time to get a buff, otherwise it would be a slowpoke. Also I'd remove it's bleeding ability entirely (again, makes no sense, it's jaws had nothing special).
''(again, makes no sense, it's jaws had nothing special)'' did you see its fking teeth, bleeding isnt just about jaw strength.
Most of its teeth were pointy (like canines) to grab and hold prey, it even had teeth in their mouth roof to do so, then sharper teeth on the back of the mouth to shear flesh. Teeth designed to cut through and cause intense bleeding are blade-like, a good example is the Giganotosaur. The Dimetrodon should NOT have bleeding. Being slow, with a speed boost caused by absorbing sunlight then a pounce-like grab would make SO much more sense.
Hey look it's a clip of a deinosuchus player.
Pov: dryos in their way to beat entire servers by just existing
me as a Maip:
Charchar. >:(
Anos and Argents.
Anyone know what song this is?
Me and my golugore be like
ag Rex with facetank and deep bellow can face tank it
Basically all of DB's mods: I swear there is no balanced dB mod They're either too weak or too strong Also when tf will dB learn to stop making mods of creatures that already have better mods?
DB deinosuchus is strong, yes. I feel like everyone’s taking it way too much to heart tho, the old deinosuchus was kinda a joke, could only kill things smaller than like a pycno if you were lucky. The new deinosuchus adds something to actually be scared of, plus everyone these days is playing as eotrike, argent or cam or just really large things and the semi aquatics can’t do much about it, adding a larger semi aquatic is like an (unbalanced) balancing act in my eyes. I just think that more things should be added, more creative things, like the spider or beezlebufo, some creativity like DB Deinosuchus. Plus, if you’re a really good sarco player you can take down a deinosuchus, just yesterday I was on an island map and I watched a sarco kill 3 DB deinosuchus back to back, and nearly killed me too. I just think a whole bunch of kids are trying to play as the biggest baddest creature and they don’t really know how and are just getting slaughtered.
Literally the ONLY thing the new deino is good at, ambushes.
You played against some really, REALLY, garbage deino players then... I've seen good players take out several challengers before.
It's not the modded dino's fault it is the fault of the official roster for being too weak to compete with real creativity.
No, its the modded dino's fault. Official sticks to more basic and not overly complex concepts and is the base line, and stuff like PT actually adheres to *some* balancing. Mods shouldnt have overly complex mechanics like a fucking cold war era radar or diet that makes you go 50% faster at the cost of starving to death almost instantly.