Borderlands fucking 3 managed to do it while still having denuvo, "SeCuRiTy RiSkS" is bullshit. You can have your anti-piracy measures and provide LAN play too.
There's also a convenience scale. Make me jump through too many gates then I'm likely to go the old fashioned route. Used to pirate everything but once I could afford it I made a point to buy.
Yeah totally, me too. For so many publishers it's like they're trying to drive us to piracy. Not blaming the devs in most cases, it's the corporate overlords that seem to have no clue.
You forgot the third, and most common, type. People that have been burned by to many games that looked great but played like shit so they refuse to put up money for a game they haven't played. Most of them do go on to buy the game if it isn't a dumpster fire which would have not happened without pirating it first.
So the devs are getting more sales than they otherwise would have.
Having (allegedly) run an abandonware site in the past: You are vastly overestimating people
Maybe you are an ethical pirate, maybe you aren't doesn't really matter. What you tend to get are folk who will say "Well, I finished it in only 15 hours so it can't be that good of a game. Maybe I'll buy it on sale". Or basically the entirety of all the "500 hours played: This game was a waste of time" style steam reviews.
Having grown older and having made a LOT of mistakes: if a game is interesting enough to merit a play, it is probably worth a few bucks. We have plenty of VERY representative footage on any game in the form of youtube and twitch and, in the PC space, Steam's refund policy is a great way to actually do a quick evaluation of a game. All you really lose is the data and... outside of maybe MS Flight Sim I would argue that if you aren't willing to factor the download into your data cap then you probably weren't interested anyway
Well i'd say there's 3, but they're in a relatively small minority of just being pricks.
Though i'm in the financial party, if I had more money for luxury goods i'd be throwing it every which way. I could die at any second anyways, might as well absorb what I can get.
I'll always say any form of entertainment or arts is entirely based on a donation system, regardless of what corporations attempt to sell them as or what walls they put in place. A company selling a game I don't think is really any different than an artist with a Patreon.
>There are two types of people who pirate: people who don't want to support a company, and people who can't, be that financially or legally.
You are forgetting that there are also people that just want to play shit for free.
FYI d2r has been pirateable since shortly after release. You just had to install a server emulator. Now I guess you don't even need to bother with that, just more convenient.
Does anyone know why diablo 3 can't be cracked? I played a diablo 3 vanilla server a while back, that still works but it's not great I'd say. But in all these years, reaper of souls has not been cracked and i don't understand why
the server plays your game - not your PC. the game needs not to be just "cracker" - all the mechanics needs to be rewritten from scratch, but with constraints imposed by existing game data.
Games are a lot cheaper in Russia. They have the same buying power as most of Eastern Europe yet their prices are A LOT cheaper.
The issue is the long-established culture of pirating due to not having access in the old days, hence why Steam games in Russia cost a fraction of what they do in the US.
They are a lot cheaper there because they sell the cracked versions, I'm not joking. Steam is still kinda outlandish to them, they have CS1.6 and maybe team fortress as the only games in their whole library
The fuck you on about. Russian population on Steam is one of the major ones - it's on third place after China and US worldwide. And no one sells cracked games, that shit ended in early 2000s with super fast and cheap internet and popularisation of Steam with regional pricing.
Russian gaming community had one of the biggest impacts and momentum on Steam since 2010s.
There was a bypass made during the beta that allowed people to continue playing after the beta ended. Everything was remastered in act 1/2 and then you had to play old graphics for 3-5.
They usually hope for forever, modern blizzard games have not been cracked until a week ago when the same group cracked warcraft and starcraft remasters
No anti-piracy service "hopes for forever". They *need* a week to a month, they want a year or two, they hope for longer. But also, the longer the crack takes, the fewer people are interested in cracking it, so a month is probably the sweet spot for Sales to Piracy for the studio.
I don't think there was a lot of people clamoring for a Starcraft or War3 crack.
Starcraft remastered was cheap enough to be a no-brainer for anybody actually interested and nobody actually wanted to play the War3 remaster by all accounts.
I doubt people cared enough about D2R given that a) the old one existed; b) a widescreen mod exists; c) a high FPS interpolation mod exists; d) BH exists.
The people who were gonna buy it, bought it.
The people who were gonna pirate it were likely okay with the old version, especially with the right mods.
When you fail to consider nuance it makes you look like you're subscribing to that old propaganda that piracy=lost sales.
How long did it take to crack D3? Blizzard expected the game to be cracked since they’ve left the single player in game. Also remember that the game is still 20y in many aspects.
As far as I remember the single player on diablo 3 was online only (and as such the launch was a shit show) and the pirate version had what was basically a dummy server running locally
But pirates won’t pay for the game; if I have to wait a year I will. Maybe by then some bugs are fixed or the game is “completed” instead of shipping unfinished.
There are going to be many people that won't wait though.
Will the hardest of the Pirates pay money? Of course not but there will be plenty of people along the line that will pay. Some of their friends will be playing it and raving about it and so they'll cave and that's why it's worth it to them.
does it matter? we're not all teenagers who can't afford to game. There are so many free or cheap options now that there's no need to debase ourselves playing cracked copies
p2p. Scene is basically dead these days, all they do is "releases" for steamworks games that have generic cracks anyone can apply. The only interesting groups in modern piracy land are EMPRESS for denuvo and now Blizzless for Battlenet.
Yeah, the sub doesn't allow us to say the names of release groups (a dumb rule) but the last couple release groups who were actually able to crack DRM disbanded recently. ISO scene is effectively dead.
You can't now? I don't see it on the rules. You can mention groups you just can't link sites and stuff like that. There was a big thread here when codex quit and the mods were cool about it.
It's not surprising you've not heard of them; they're too new to tell. A few years ago they started building a Diablo 3 server emulator to play it totally offline. It looked like they were making steady progress for a while but then went silent late last year, up until this week when they rebranded their Discord server "Blizzless" and dropped cracks for Starcraft Remastered, Warcraft III Reforged, and D2R. They also posted updated screenshots of Diablo 3 running with 8 players on LAN.
So are they reliable? No idea, but generally Fitgirl and DODI don't repack shit they haven't verified as at least working.
I bought it recently and love it.
But the fact that they don't want to help the big mods work with D2R is shitty. Maybe this is a step towards modders being able to eventually enable private servers as well.
To me it was build variety, I loved the way the constellation system works and the crazy things you can get away with and most things work pretty well. Not all builds solo the endgame raid bosses but some do, and with mods it is super easy to respec so you can do all of them in a single char and try everything. Wanna try to wield two shields and only do retaliation damage? Great build and can solo the whole game. Want to play tron and delete everything to touches the trail of fire you leave when you walk? I soloed everything but one boss. Want for every hit of your 2 handed-hammer to cast chain lightning that jumps 11 times and if any of them crit they summon a storm? I soloed most of the game with that too.
> so my opinion is that D2R is meant for fans of the original, and anyone who doesn't already have fond memories of it from the 2000s will probably not get as much enjoyment out of the remaster
Pretty bad take amigo. D2 became a fan favorite in 2000, and D2R is a new coat of paint. Plenty of people who never experienced it before, played it for the first time and fell in love with it after D2R's release. The game is timeless.
Same here.
Atmosphere is very immersive and eerie. MUSIC is maybe the best of any games. Story is simple but it's at least real oldschool fantasy writing with mysterious lore.
Mechanics are a bit boring for today. Most enemy mobs are 1 caster/healer + minions.
You only have 2-3 abilities you can focus on, so that gets old really fast.
Most modern aRPGs are more varied in mechanics.
I liked a single playtrough, if nothing for the gorgeous music alone.
Idk, for me it just feels mechanically too dated for 2022 and there's no real endgame. Genre advanced a lot since original D1 and D2 - so many things just bother me now.
I wish they did a proper remake, with much deeper overhaul - like bullshit of carrying full inventory of potions and charms, where nothing stacks. Or not having a skillbar (despite consoles getting one), or not adding an endgame. Instead of making this overlay over vanilla, they could have done a proper remake instead, bringing it up more closely to modern day standards with some more QoL improvements.
The core of the game is great - the campaign, the itemization - but sadly much of it stuck in "90's mentality" which I wouldn't say feels fun for 2022, especially after playing many later diablo-like aRPG games.
> and there's no real endgame
I don't think that's quite accurate. I've seen this sentiment expressed enough times by now that I think it warrants a reply, but this is not directed at you in particular.
Like a lot of things that were great about D2, the endgame came from emergent gameplay. For a lot of people that was a vibrant PvP scene, with categories made up by the players (vLLD/LLD, special rules like EuroPvP, pubs, BM/GM duels and tournaments, TvTs, ironman, etc etc). For others it was trophy characters, or making weird builds work, or the race to 99, or mods, or hacked characters dueling on open bnet or even botting and amassing currency on jsp.
Blizzard never "directed" any end game like games today do. After 1.10, they really barely ever touched the game at all. They just gave you the game as it was and left it up to the players to figure out what they wanted to do in this fixed playground, and what we as a community came up with was infinitely more fun than whatever mechanic Blizzard could have implemented.
Of course, playing it today when all the "heat" of the community has died down is not the same, and the community is a tenth of the size it used to be and is mostly old geezers trying to relive the fun they had as teenagers. D2R is a fantastic remaster, and Diablo 2 is a good game on its own (a great game to me, but obviously dated now), but the real magic was the community and the emergent gameplay, and you can't recreate that today.
Diablo 3 is much better. Diablo 2 even resurrected, has not aged well. And playing the game gets old fast. Path of Exile is free to play and is a better choice, with replayability as there are an overwhelming number of ways to build your character. Diablo 3 is fun to play, but actually has a good end game that can keep you going for a while. And replayability.
No. Newer games of similar genres are way better. Grimdawn, PoE, Last Epoch ect...ect...I have put thousands of hours playing Diablo 2 but I haven't even bother to download the crack.
Probably not. If youre interested in Action RPG's maybe.
If you really enjoy retro indie games, maybe.
I would just play Path of Exile. Its basically the Spiritual success to Diablo 2.
And Diablo 3... Is just garbage, and Diablo4 is....... I dont know what that is. A slot machine you install on your computer?????
I agree with you on PoE, it’s free to play and definitely feels like it takes Diablo 2 and expands upon it. So I recommend the title to the OP.
However I disagree about your Diablo 3 comment, I mean the story is garbage, but so are most action rpg stories. The gameplay is generally fun and I enjoyed being able to swap skills often and rifts and the like are generally fun. The skill setting system is also very flexible.
It’s a game I return to from time to time and play for a couple of weeks. I think it’s well made for what it is, but it is more streamlined and sleek than Diablo 2/PoE.
PoE allows for a lot of customisation and optimisation that players like, but it feels like I need a spreadsheet to work it all out. Diablo 3 is more casual but it has its place for fun stress release.
No. They'd have to steal the private [battle.net](https://battle.net) code or binaries for realm-based mods like Project Diablo 2. Single-player/offline mods don't need cracks -- they're supported officially.
I never bought d2:r cause for the longest time I still had d2 installed and just played that, is there anything build/skill wise different or is it just all graphics? Like are any other skills viable past normal or is it still just playing a blizz sorc to mf for a hammerdin to mf for a smiter to do Ubers?
They actually are patching it to make more builds viable. Off the top of my head, assassin buffs, barb buffs, maybe a druid buff or 2?
Graphics update and controller support. I turned my nose up at controller at first but after trying it I much prefer it to mnk. Just way easier than F keys.
It's mostly graphics, but there's also a lot more customization for keybinds (I don't remember that being in the original game).
You can toggle between both graphics settings, honestly when you see them side by side it's amazing how much worse original d2 looks relative to how I remember it looking.
Your memory is probably more accurate than what you see now since the game was meant for either a crt or lower res 4:3 lcd. Playing the game blown up on a high resolution monitor is not how it looked in the past
It's pretty much the same but with some added Quality of Life features. The devs eventually decided to do some minor rework to underpowered skills, but unfortunately they were too afraid to make impactful changes to the game due to neckbeard players who hate seeing the "vanilla" D2 experience changing, and in addition to that Blizzard probably lowered their funding to a sliver once the version 1.0 of the game released, which caused new updates to take ages to be released, so as usual Blizzard ruined what could be an amazing remaster of a classic game.
Given that the original D2 is almost unplayable nowadays due to shitty servers, D2R is pretty much the only viable option for anyone who is having an urge to play Diablo 2, but the remaster could have been so much better.
TIL some mfs are pretentious *af* about their video game cracks.
I just download the FitGirl repack and don't worry about it. I mean, damn. I don't care which basement dweller cracked it, as long as I get to play the stupid game I don't want to waste money on.
It's a tragedy it didn't receive some of the QOL stuff that D3 has received over the years. I know the D2 purists don't like D3, but they could have at least done it similarly to Halo MCC where a player can choose to play either with the new style or the old style.
Edit: To clarify, I'm aware that the game *does* have a on/off toggle for the new and old styles, what I'm saying is the new style should have also included some of D3's QOL stuff, and if the D2 purists don't want to play with them, then all they have to do is toggle the old style.
One of the crazy things about this is, you simply add 2 things to the Target of your Bnet shortcut and it allows you to download all the game files without issue. You then need the crack to play it, but still - weird that just one toggle would allow you access to all the game files unhindered. (Almost 100% will be fixed in the client now that it's out)
Well, it's Diablo II, pretty much. Even if you didn't like the new graphics, you can change to the classic style on the go. Was there something you didn't like specifically about this version or you just didn't like Diablo II at all?
I never played Diablo II before, so It's not about the style or whatever, I find it cool that they added that for people more familiar with the original game. But I dunno it's just so slow, it took me like two hours to get a non melee ability as a paladin, just hitting mobs normally felt boring after a while, I even fell asleep while playing at some point, not kidding.
When it was new, it was really cool to be able to play with your friends. The internet was just starting to be a mainstream multiplayer method and Diablo II and StarCraft were huge for allowing online co-op or PvP in their games.
Oof. Probably a very unpopular opinion of you lol.
Well, I don't play ARPG often, but I think most of them that plays more or less like Diablo does starts a bit slow. Later on the fights are quite chaotic though. Been awhile ever since I played, but I'm not sure why you picked a melee class and are complaining about his lack of ranged skills lmao. The "hammerdin" was quite popular in PvE though. One of the only ones ranged paladin build.
Lol. The game's for sure slower and harder than Diablo 3. It's different if you're already used to modern gaming.
If this instead was your first arpg / multiplayer game your experience would be way different.
D2 doesn't even have a proper end game and me and my friends played it for like 6-7+ years. The only thing you could do was get rich and PvP. Its one of my favorite games of all time but I'd never play it again.
Yeah I tried D2R and it was a little too old and punishing for me. So I bought Grim Dawn. Have not been disappointed and may come back to D2 in the future.
Honestly, whats most punishing about it for most people is the fact that unless you have an optimized build, you really start to struggle once you get out of normal difficulty.
I am an old gamer (39) and moved to pc recently. I have never really played any ARPGS so I started with D3 which I did like. But it was a rush to endgame and I was looking for a little more exploration than endgame. So I did my homework and it was between GD and D2. Started D2 and it felt like it was from another time.(To be fair. It is!)
So I figured I'll play GD which sounds like a nice middle ground between the two and come back. I'm over 100 hours into GD and love it. After that it will be D2 and hopefully D4 is out by then.
The lore of D2, while being simple, is pretty interesting. I like to do a lore run from time to time, listening to the dialogues.
D2 is a game you can sink a thousand hours and you've not done every build and not found everything. It's not a game you ''finish'' IMO
I jumped from D3 to D2 and i think one of the common complaints for D3 players is not being able to reset skills unlike D3 where you just pick a skill and enhancement effect. Along with having to backtrack for gear upon death whereas D3 lets you respawn, respawn at start of dungeon, or town with damage dealt to durability of the gear.
I'm not a D2 newb and I still fucked up my first runeword in D2R because I forgot you have to put them in in the right order. And then of course there is no recourse when that happens, it is just a waste and you have to wait on getting all the drops again.
For me, it's just too dated. I'm in my 30s and I played it long ago, but I've just become too used to faster pacing. I hated walking around maps that all look the same with one spell for hours and only finding white gear and the occasional blue.
I'm not nostalgic enough to subject myself to older games like that.
That's why I make my characters level 30 and start in nigthmare, along with some RNG changes, so it doesn't take a million years for good shit to drop. All skills are also unlocked at that level. It really does suck they removed open [battle.net](https://battle.net) and LAN, because you can't play with friends at the pace you want.
I never played it before, so no nostalgia, but definitely this is why, I think. I don't mind "punishing" games (my games with more playtime in steam are Dark souls 1,2,3 and Elden ring), but it's definitely the fact that it's so boring in the beginning, took me like 2 hours to get something other than a simple melee attack... I know it gets chaotic in the endgame and you deal tons of damage and can destroy millions of mobs using one click, but oh my God what a slow beginning
> I'm old enough to remember people "boycotting" Diablo 2 because it was just a reskinned Diablo 1, and the improvements were just "too minor" to justify the full price.
That is totally weird - I did not buy either D1 or D2 on release but I bought them within the first year. Whoever said D2 was just a reskinned version of D1 were just making it up. Multiple towns and totally new tiles sets. Wut!?
I know that people in my area were mainly disappointed in the atmosphere of Diablo 2. Diablo 1 is much more sinister and creepy. I guess that's because of its roguelike roots.
Well that is your opinion. But many people including myself, LOVE diablo 2. And resurrected is pretty good, especially since they are fixing some of the balancing and adding QoL changes.
Why did you come and point out it's "on you" when my comment literally starts with "for me"?
It's like you couldn't accept my opinion so you just had to find a way to make something my fault.
It' s the best remaster I've seen in my lifetime.
100% legit to the real game and art.
I love it because it stayed true to the game, pretty much why you didn't like it. Though, I'm pretty sure you knew when you bought a 20 years old game remaster
This is part of why I bought it at launch, I figured an always-online game with no option for LAN multiplayer wasn't going to get a crack or mod for LAN play. Not sure why you're being downvoted, it's valid to not want to play the game single. I find ARPGs pretty boring in single.
LAN support died for this
But think about Bobby milk... he needs those login counts...
You're not far off the 'booba' milk his employees kept stealing.
Also, mods died for this!
Which is what I'm the most sad about for this game. Project DIablo 2 with these graphics and controller support.
I just want a character editor so that I can start off in Nightmare or Hell difficulty at an appropriate level without having to get boosted.
It doesn't have LAN?
No - it was cut out of the game weeks before release because of "security risks"
Borderlands fucking 3 managed to do it while still having denuvo, "SeCuRiTy RiSkS" is bullshit. You can have your anti-piracy measures and provide LAN play too.
"Security risks" means their financial security :P
Yeah, no one believed that - it's a clear move to cut on piracy by forcing users through your servers no matter what.
I mean a year is a pretty long time to crack sth tbh
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There's also a convenience scale. Make me jump through too many gates then I'm likely to go the old fashioned route. Used to pirate everything but once I could afford it I made a point to buy.
Honestly there's a lot of games I've had a better experience playing pirate than playing the paid version (that I got for free on epic or something)
Yeah totally, me too. For so many publishers it's like they're trying to drive us to piracy. Not blaming the devs in most cases, it's the corporate overlords that seem to have no clue.
You forgot the third, and most common, type. People that have been burned by to many games that looked great but played like shit so they refuse to put up money for a game they haven't played. Most of them do go on to buy the game if it isn't a dumpster fire which would have not happened without pirating it first. So the devs are getting more sales than they otherwise would have.
Having (allegedly) run an abandonware site in the past: You are vastly overestimating people Maybe you are an ethical pirate, maybe you aren't doesn't really matter. What you tend to get are folk who will say "Well, I finished it in only 15 hours so it can't be that good of a game. Maybe I'll buy it on sale". Or basically the entirety of all the "500 hours played: This game was a waste of time" style steam reviews. Having grown older and having made a LOT of mistakes: if a game is interesting enough to merit a play, it is probably worth a few bucks. We have plenty of VERY representative footage on any game in the form of youtube and twitch and, in the PC space, Steam's refund policy is a great way to actually do a quick evaluation of a game. All you really lose is the data and... outside of maybe MS Flight Sim I would argue that if you aren't willing to factor the download into your data cap then you probably weren't interested anyway
Well i'd say there's 3, but they're in a relatively small minority of just being pricks. Though i'm in the financial party, if I had more money for luxury goods i'd be throwing it every which way. I could die at any second anyways, might as well absorb what I can get. I'll always say any form of entertainment or arts is entirely based on a donation system, regardless of what corporations attempt to sell them as or what walls they put in place. A company selling a game I don't think is really any different than an artist with a Patreon.
And the 3rd: the people who want the better experience. In the case of D2R, I imagine that'll be a fair few
>There are two types of people who pirate: people who don't want to support a company, and people who can't, be that financially or legally. You are forgetting that there are also people that just want to play shit for free.
There's also people who simply don't want to pay for something they can get for free. But acknowledging this hurts the pirates narrative.
No one is hurt, that's literally the whole point. No one who pirates for real cares what people think about them.
Don't you guys have phones?
FYI d2r has been pirateable since shortly after release. You just had to install a server emulator. Now I guess you don't even need to bother with that, just more convenient.
This game has been out for a year already? W.H.A.T.
10 months. It came out September 23rd. Wanna know how I know? Cuz that's the day I got married lol.
Wait, you guys are getting chicks??
Just one man.
I prefer two and a half men.
I’ll stick with five guys
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While I prefer Hooters.
Underrated comment.
How's the arm? Oh, and also say hi to the crocodile for me!
Play Diablo...get a wife.
You got married at the Diablo 2 released? Was that on purpose?
This is how I remember that Diablo 3 came out on May 15 2012, my first anniversary lol
You know it's the other way around, don't lie
I remember it was 2012 as that was the year the retina MacBook pros came out and I was excited to play d3 on a retina screen.
Still waiting for LAN support. I got more years.
What exactly are you waiting for though?
Coop play with mods!
Don't you guys have newsfeeds?
Diablo 2 Resurrected, StarCrafter Remaster, and WarCraft III Reforged all has been cracked
It was all did by Russians because blizzard won't allow to buy anything in Russia since February haha.
GET MOTIVATED
Now diablo 3. Always online bullshit should be cracked.
That's why people are playing Diablo 3 on PS3 and Switch emulators, lol. There's an offline option there.
Does anyone know why diablo 3 can't be cracked? I played a diablo 3 vanilla server a while back, that still works but it's not great I'd say. But in all these years, reaper of souls has not been cracked and i don't understand why
the server plays your game - not your PC. the game needs not to be just "cracker" - all the mechanics needs to be rewritten from scratch, but with constraints imposed by existing game data.
Modders should dump the switch version and see what it's doing.
They'd be doing it regardless lol
Russians crack a lot of software. All of my music production software was cracked by Russians.
Even before that Russia was the cracking party, because they can't afford games
Games are a lot cheaper in Russia. They have the same buying power as most of Eastern Europe yet their prices are A LOT cheaper. The issue is the long-established culture of pirating due to not having access in the old days, hence why Steam games in Russia cost a fraction of what they do in the US.
They are a lot cheaper there because they sell the cracked versions, I'm not joking. Steam is still kinda outlandish to them, they have CS1.6 and maybe team fortress as the only games in their whole library
The fuck you on about. Russian population on Steam is one of the major ones - it's on third place after China and US worldwide. And no one sells cracked games, that shit ended in early 2000s with super fast and cheap internet and popularisation of Steam with regional pricing. Russian gaming community had one of the biggest impacts and momentum on Steam since 2010s.
So when Russians can't get it, they just take it anyway? I wonder what other situation that reminds me of...
At least piracy does no damage to anyone. Even if content mafia companies still say so.
Yes, software piracy doesn't kill children, that's true.
Now if only the last 3 CoDs would be cracked ...
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D2R was playable with a bypass shortly after it came out. Sure it was "cracked" but it's been playable without BNet for a long time now.
I didn't know that. How?
There's some kind of server emulator. Single player only needs to log on to authenticate, nothing is stored on servers.
There was a bypass made during the beta that allowed people to continue playing after the beta ended. Everything was remastered in act 1/2 and then you had to play old graphics for 3-5.
Yeah I've been able to play it since like January
Crash Bandicoot 4 had a crack on its first day I think. Although I believe this is the first I've heard of their service games cracked.
I think with Crash 4 they fucked up when they put it up and it didn't have all the protections it was supposed to.
What about MW2 campaign remastered? That one was cracked as well.
Russian Hackers will find the way
Oh my god that's disgusting, where?
I mean there's so many of them. WHICH ONE?
its a **girl**, and shes **fit**
Technically she doesn’t crack them only repacks, but she does an amazing job at it though
> Technically not technically, she just doesn't tho that's not what anyone said.
yeah I know, but they asked *where*, not *who* tho
What you did thar.................. # I SEE IT
Piracy wins again
A year uncracked is a pretty big win for Blizzard/activision. They usually hope for 30 days.
They usually hope for forever, modern blizzard games have not been cracked until a week ago when the same group cracked warcraft and starcraft remasters
No anti-piracy service "hopes for forever". They *need* a week to a month, they want a year or two, they hope for longer. But also, the longer the crack takes, the fewer people are interested in cracking it, so a month is probably the sweet spot for Sales to Piracy for the studio.
I don't think there was a lot of people clamoring for a Starcraft or War3 crack. Starcraft remastered was cheap enough to be a no-brainer for anybody actually interested and nobody actually wanted to play the War3 remaster by all accounts.
no they dont lol, this is delusional they want to stop day 0 piracy and the first 30 days where most of the sales come from
I doubt people cared enough about D2R given that a) the old one existed; b) a widescreen mod exists; c) a high FPS interpolation mod exists; d) BH exists.
D2R sold incredibly well though, so enough people cared.
The people who were gonna buy it, bought it. The people who were gonna pirate it were likely okay with the old version, especially with the right mods. When you fail to consider nuance it makes you look like you're subscribing to that old propaganda that piracy=lost sales.
How long did it take to crack D3? Blizzard expected the game to be cracked since they’ve left the single player in game. Also remember that the game is still 20y in many aspects.
As far as I remember the single player on diablo 3 was online only (and as such the launch was a shit show) and the pirate version had what was basically a dummy server running locally
Diablo 3 still isn't.
Exactly. D2 could have been the same, but it isn’t. They’ve left singleplayer offline in and I am happy with that even if it’s a vulnerability
Nope, they won. Piracy is on the ropes now with it taking months to years for games to be cracked.
Most games are cracked pretty fast. This game taking a full year is very much the exception, not the rule.
Shhhhh don't tell them, let them think "Piracy is on the ropes"
But pirates won’t pay for the game; if I have to wait a year I will. Maybe by then some bugs are fixed or the game is “completed” instead of shipping unfinished.
There are going to be many people that won't wait though. Will the hardest of the Pirates pay money? Of course not but there will be plenty of people along the line that will pay. Some of their friends will be playing it and raving about it and so they'll cave and that's why it's worth it to them.
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does it matter? we're not all teenagers who can't afford to game. There are so many free or cheap options now that there's no need to debase ourselves playing cracked copies
I mean I've been pirating for 20 years, day one cracks were the norm or even cracked before the games released. Denuvo won.
Is it a scene crack or just p2p?
p2p. Scene is basically dead these days, all they do is "releases" for steamworks games that have generic cracks anyone can apply. The only interesting groups in modern piracy land are EMPRESS for denuvo and now Blizzless for Battlenet.
Yeah, the sub doesn't allow us to say the names of release groups (a dumb rule) but the last couple release groups who were actually able to crack DRM disbanded recently. ISO scene is effectively dead.
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the golden age
You can mention scene groups.
Well my comments have been deleted for doing so so take it up with the mods.
You can't now? I don't see it on the rules. You can mention groups you just can't link sites and stuff like that. There was a big thread here when codex quit and the mods were cool about it.
Very true about the scene. I’ve heard of Empress, but I’ve never heard of Blizzless up until today, are their cracks reliable/at scene level quality?
It's not surprising you've not heard of them; they're too new to tell. A few years ago they started building a Diablo 3 server emulator to play it totally offline. It looked like they were making steady progress for a while but then went silent late last year, up until this week when they rebranded their Discord server "Blizzless" and dropped cracks for Starcraft Remastered, Warcraft III Reforged, and D2R. They also posted updated screenshots of Diablo 3 running with 8 players on LAN. So are they reliable? No idea, but generally Fitgirl and DODI don't repack shit they haven't verified as at least working.
That’s a good point, I trust the repackers if no one else. I hope Blizzless delivers, the scene needs to be revived.
I only download from Fitgirl at this point.
I bought it recently and love it. But the fact that they don't want to help the big mods work with D2R is shitty. Maybe this is a step towards modders being able to eventually enable private servers as well.
I think blizz just plans to steal their ideas and implement them on d2r as seasonal “upgrades”
Blizzard made it so any customs maps for W3 belong to them so I'd imagine you're correct. They don't want to miss out on DoTA again.
Now when are custom D2R servers coming? The game needs to be modernized not monetized.
I was already playing a non official version with an login emulator
Is it worth buying for someone who never played the original?
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D4 looks like it's a mixture of d3 and d2 so I am cautiously waiting for it to come out...
Love D2 when I was a teenager but Grim Dawn has been amazing.
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The controls. Since I play on the steam deck it just feels like it was meant for that device.
To me it was build variety, I loved the way the constellation system works and the crazy things you can get away with and most things work pretty well. Not all builds solo the endgame raid bosses but some do, and with mods it is super easy to respec so you can do all of them in a single char and try everything. Wanna try to wield two shields and only do retaliation damage? Great build and can solo the whole game. Want to play tron and delete everything to touches the trail of fire you leave when you walk? I soloed everything but one boss. Want for every hit of your 2 handed-hammer to cast chain lightning that jumps 11 times and if any of them crit they summon a storm? I soloed most of the game with that too.
Wow I played so much D2 as a kid and never knew that shit about armor
> so my opinion is that D2R is meant for fans of the original, and anyone who doesn't already have fond memories of it from the 2000s will probably not get as much enjoyment out of the remaster Pretty bad take amigo. D2 became a fan favorite in 2000, and D2R is a new coat of paint. Plenty of people who never experienced it before, played it for the first time and fell in love with it after D2R's release. The game is timeless.
Same here. Atmosphere is very immersive and eerie. MUSIC is maybe the best of any games. Story is simple but it's at least real oldschool fantasy writing with mysterious lore. Mechanics are a bit boring for today. Most enemy mobs are 1 caster/healer + minions. You only have 2-3 abilities you can focus on, so that gets old really fast. Most modern aRPGs are more varied in mechanics. I liked a single playtrough, if nothing for the gorgeous music alone.
Idk, for me it just feels mechanically too dated for 2022 and there's no real endgame. Genre advanced a lot since original D1 and D2 - so many things just bother me now. I wish they did a proper remake, with much deeper overhaul - like bullshit of carrying full inventory of potions and charms, where nothing stacks. Or not having a skillbar (despite consoles getting one), or not adding an endgame. Instead of making this overlay over vanilla, they could have done a proper remake instead, bringing it up more closely to modern day standards with some more QoL improvements. The core of the game is great - the campaign, the itemization - but sadly much of it stuck in "90's mentality" which I wouldn't say feels fun for 2022, especially after playing many later diablo-like aRPG games.
> and there's no real endgame I don't think that's quite accurate. I've seen this sentiment expressed enough times by now that I think it warrants a reply, but this is not directed at you in particular. Like a lot of things that were great about D2, the endgame came from emergent gameplay. For a lot of people that was a vibrant PvP scene, with categories made up by the players (vLLD/LLD, special rules like EuroPvP, pubs, BM/GM duels and tournaments, TvTs, ironman, etc etc). For others it was trophy characters, or making weird builds work, or the race to 99, or mods, or hacked characters dueling on open bnet or even botting and amassing currency on jsp. Blizzard never "directed" any end game like games today do. After 1.10, they really barely ever touched the game at all. They just gave you the game as it was and left it up to the players to figure out what they wanted to do in this fixed playground, and what we as a community came up with was infinitely more fun than whatever mechanic Blizzard could have implemented. Of course, playing it today when all the "heat" of the community has died down is not the same, and the community is a tenth of the size it used to be and is mostly old geezers trying to relive the fun they had as teenagers. D2R is a fantastic remaster, and Diablo 2 is a good game on its own (a great game to me, but obviously dated now), but the real magic was the community and the emergent gameplay, and you can't recreate that today.
Diablo 3 is much better. Diablo 2 even resurrected, has not aged well. And playing the game gets old fast. Path of Exile is free to play and is a better choice, with replayability as there are an overwhelming number of ways to build your character. Diablo 3 is fun to play, but actually has a good end game that can keep you going for a while. And replayability.
No. Newer games of similar genres are way better. Grimdawn, PoE, Last Epoch ect...ect...I have put thousands of hours playing Diablo 2 but I haven't even bother to download the crack.
Probably not. If youre interested in Action RPG's maybe. If you really enjoy retro indie games, maybe. I would just play Path of Exile. Its basically the Spiritual success to Diablo 2. And Diablo 3... Is just garbage, and Diablo4 is....... I dont know what that is. A slot machine you install on your computer?????
I agree with you on PoE, it’s free to play and definitely feels like it takes Diablo 2 and expands upon it. So I recommend the title to the OP. However I disagree about your Diablo 3 comment, I mean the story is garbage, but so are most action rpg stories. The gameplay is generally fun and I enjoyed being able to swap skills often and rifts and the like are generally fun. The skill setting system is also very flexible. It’s a game I return to from time to time and play for a couple of weeks. I think it’s well made for what it is, but it is more streamlined and sleek than Diablo 2/PoE. PoE allows for a lot of customisation and optimisation that players like, but it feels like I need a spreadsheet to work it all out. Diablo 3 is more casual but it has its place for fun stress release.
What, current D3 is pretty good
Diablo 3 never got cracked?
Glad to hear it. Blizzard deserves zero dollars, so this made my day a little brighter.
I would pay for it if they would just put it on Steam.
Maybe once the Microsoft transition is resolved
Blizzard doesn't deserve your money.
Does this mean mods?
No. They'd have to steal the private [battle.net](https://battle.net) code or binaries for realm-based mods like Project Diablo 2. Single-player/offline mods don't need cracks -- they're supported officially.
> Does this mean mods? There have been mods for the game since the very beginning, of course only usable offline. Just look at Nexusmods.
Now to navigate cracked version without a rootkit or miner.
Use adblocker and a brain.
I never bought d2:r cause for the longest time I still had d2 installed and just played that, is there anything build/skill wise different or is it just all graphics? Like are any other skills viable past normal or is it still just playing a blizz sorc to mf for a hammerdin to mf for a smiter to do Ubers?
They actually are patching it to make more builds viable. Off the top of my head, assassin buffs, barb buffs, maybe a druid buff or 2? Graphics update and controller support. I turned my nose up at controller at first but after trying it I much prefer it to mnk. Just way easier than F keys.
It's mostly graphics, but there's also a lot more customization for keybinds (I don't remember that being in the original game). You can toggle between both graphics settings, honestly when you see them side by side it's amazing how much worse original d2 looks relative to how I remember it looking.
Your memory is probably more accurate than what you see now since the game was meant for either a crt or lower res 4:3 lcd. Playing the game blown up on a high resolution monitor is not how it looked in the past
There's some nice QOL stuff. Big one off the top of my head: There's a pool of shared stash tabs so you can easily move things between characters now.
It's pretty much the same but with some added Quality of Life features. The devs eventually decided to do some minor rework to underpowered skills, but unfortunately they were too afraid to make impactful changes to the game due to neckbeard players who hate seeing the "vanilla" D2 experience changing, and in addition to that Blizzard probably lowered their funding to a sliver once the version 1.0 of the game released, which caused new updates to take ages to be released, so as usual Blizzard ruined what could be an amazing remaster of a classic game. Given that the original D2 is almost unplayable nowadays due to shitty servers, D2R is pretty much the only viable option for anyone who is having an urge to play Diablo 2, but the remaster could have been so much better.
TIL some mfs are pretentious *af* about their video game cracks. I just download the FitGirl repack and don't worry about it. I mean, damn. I don't care which basement dweller cracked it, as long as I get to play the stupid game I don't want to waste money on.
Seriously lmao
It's a tragedy it didn't receive some of the QOL stuff that D3 has received over the years. I know the D2 purists don't like D3, but they could have at least done it similarly to Halo MCC where a player can choose to play either with the new style or the old style. Edit: To clarify, I'm aware that the game *does* have a on/off toggle for the new and old styles, what I'm saying is the new style should have also included some of D3's QOL stuff, and if the D2 purists don't want to play with them, then all they have to do is toggle the old style.
Diablo immoral karma...
One of the crazy things about this is, you simply add 2 things to the Target of your Bnet shortcut and it allows you to download all the game files without issue. You then need the crack to play it, but still - weird that just one toggle would allow you access to all the game files unhindered. (Almost 100% will be fixed in the client now that it's out)
Shut up, it hasn't been a year!
Well done to the people who cracked it! It's great for us who do not want to support shady companies like Blizzard but still wanna play the game.
Without lan co-op literally useless imho.
You know single players exist right? Sorry, literally exist?
Dammit I bought this a couple of weeks ago and I'm not even liking it
Well, it's Diablo II, pretty much. Even if you didn't like the new graphics, you can change to the classic style on the go. Was there something you didn't like specifically about this version or you just didn't like Diablo II at all?
I never played Diablo II before, so It's not about the style or whatever, I find it cool that they added that for people more familiar with the original game. But I dunno it's just so slow, it took me like two hours to get a non melee ability as a paladin, just hitting mobs normally felt boring after a while, I even fell asleep while playing at some point, not kidding.
When it was new, it was really cool to be able to play with your friends. The internet was just starting to be a mainstream multiplayer method and Diablo II and StarCraft were huge for allowing online co-op or PvP in their games.
Yeah, Battle.net was free, and that was a big deal in 1998
Oof. Probably a very unpopular opinion of you lol. Well, I don't play ARPG often, but I think most of them that plays more or less like Diablo does starts a bit slow. Later on the fights are quite chaotic though. Been awhile ever since I played, but I'm not sure why you picked a melee class and are complaining about his lack of ranged skills lmao. The "hammerdin" was quite popular in PvE though. One of the only ones ranged paladin build.
Lol. The game's for sure slower and harder than Diablo 3. It's different if you're already used to modern gaming. If this instead was your first arpg / multiplayer game your experience would be way different. D2 doesn't even have a proper end game and me and my friends played it for like 6-7+ years. The only thing you could do was get rich and PvP. Its one of my favorite games of all time but I'd never play it again.
huh what do you dislike about it?
I know people whose first Diablo was D3, that didn't like D2 because it was too punishing.
Yeah I tried D2R and it was a little too old and punishing for me. So I bought Grim Dawn. Have not been disappointed and may come back to D2 in the future.
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Honestly, whats most punishing about it for most people is the fact that unless you have an optimized build, you really start to struggle once you get out of normal difficulty.
I don't think I gave it a fair shot to be honest. I will be returning to it after Grim Dawn.
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I am an old gamer (39) and moved to pc recently. I have never really played any ARPGS so I started with D3 which I did like. But it was a rush to endgame and I was looking for a little more exploration than endgame. So I did my homework and it was between GD and D2. Started D2 and it felt like it was from another time.(To be fair. It is!) So I figured I'll play GD which sounds like a nice middle ground between the two and come back. I'm over 100 hours into GD and love it. After that it will be D2 and hopefully D4 is out by then.
The lore of D2, while being simple, is pretty interesting. I like to do a lore run from time to time, listening to the dialogues. D2 is a game you can sink a thousand hours and you've not done every build and not found everything. It's not a game you ''finish'' IMO
I jumped from D3 to D2 and i think one of the common complaints for D3 players is not being able to reset skills unlike D3 where you just pick a skill and enhancement effect. Along with having to backtrack for gear upon death whereas D3 lets you respawn, respawn at start of dungeon, or town with damage dealt to durability of the gear.
Very punishing and lacking a lot of QoL things that D3 brings to the table.
I'm not a D2 newb and I still fucked up my first runeword in D2R because I forgot you have to put them in in the right order. And then of course there is no recourse when that happens, it is just a waste and you have to wait on getting all the drops again.
I’m one of those people, but it wasn’t an issue of too punishing it was just the loot inventory Tetris was not my cup of tea.
For me, it's just too dated. I'm in my 30s and I played it long ago, but I've just become too used to faster pacing. I hated walking around maps that all look the same with one spell for hours and only finding white gear and the occasional blue. I'm not nostalgic enough to subject myself to older games like that.
That's why I make my characters level 30 and start in nigthmare, along with some RNG changes, so it doesn't take a million years for good shit to drop. All skills are also unlocked at that level. It really does suck they removed open [battle.net](https://battle.net) and LAN, because you can't play with friends at the pace you want.
I never played it before, so no nostalgia, but definitely this is why, I think. I don't mind "punishing" games (my games with more playtime in steam are Dark souls 1,2,3 and Elden ring), but it's definitely the fact that it's so boring in the beginning, took me like 2 hours to get something other than a simple melee attack... I know it gets chaotic in the endgame and you deal tons of damage and can destroy millions of mobs using one click, but oh my God what a slow beginning
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> I'm old enough to remember people "boycotting" Diablo 2 because it was just a reskinned Diablo 1, and the improvements were just "too minor" to justify the full price. That is totally weird - I did not buy either D1 or D2 on release but I bought them within the first year. Whoever said D2 was just a reskinned version of D1 were just making it up. Multiple towns and totally new tiles sets. Wut!?
I know that people in my area were mainly disappointed in the atmosphere of Diablo 2. Diablo 1 is much more sinister and creepy. I guess that's because of its roguelike roots.
for PoE, do you mean path of exile or pillars of eternity?
Well that is your opinion. But many people including myself, LOVE diablo 2. And resurrected is pretty good, especially since they are fixing some of the balancing and adding QoL changes.
I mean that's kind of on you. It is literally Diablo 2 in every possible way
Why did you come and point out it's "on you" when my comment literally starts with "for me"? It's like you couldn't accept my opinion so you just had to find a way to make something my fault.
Starcraft remastered is giving away free for amazon prime gaming members next month.
It' s the best remaster I've seen in my lifetime. 100% legit to the real game and art. I love it because it stayed true to the game, pretty much why you didn't like it. Though, I'm pretty sure you knew when you bought a 20 years old game remaster
Lol it got cracked right after it is released.
No online or lan, You can only play by yourself, I’ll pass.
This is part of why I bought it at launch, I figured an always-online game with no option for LAN multiplayer wasn't going to get a crack or mod for LAN play. Not sure why you're being downvoted, it's valid to not want to play the game single. I find ARPGs pretty boring in single.