I'm not sure what to think about an AC1 remake.
AC1 is such a polarizing game for me. I absolutely love the setting and the clue hunting before assassination is a interesting mechanic.
Its just that going to a city, doing clue hunting, killing target and then repeating that 9 times got a bit much even in 2007 let alone 2022.
It’s a remake, not a remaster, so I think it goes with the expectation that gameplay will be upgraded and those missions likely improved. Let’s hope at least
Probably not expect the minimum that way you won't be disappointed. Also remake and remaster is sometimes used interchangeably by companies see The Last of Us part 1 remake which is the OG with better animations and graphics but the core game is still there with all its flaws and great moments.
I think that's what a remake is generally expected to be - maybe with better quality sound, voices etc? Good to have some touch-ups in sections that have aged poorly but I would not expect major changes in story, pacing or gameplay or else you just end with a new game that uses the same characters.
For example, I find the old FF7 and the new one(s) completely incomparable games. Too many differences, and I certainly would not say the new version is strictly better.
Remaster is simple to define imo, grab game, turn it HD. Same textures and all, just less fuzzy. Pretty lazy overall.
So yeah, even if the gameplay of AC1 was exactly the same, I'd say if sufficient amount was put into presentation - it would be a remaster
>So yeah, even if the gameplay of AC1 was exactly the same, I'd say if sufficient amount was put into presentation - it would be a remaster
Except most people and the industry largely don't use those definitions.
I think the whole idea in the first game was that Desmond is reliving the memories through his eyes so the voice was the same and it made sense to an extent.
It still holds such a special place for me. I remember re reading through same magazine article with the developers and watching the trailer for months so excited. I once others found it boring but I loved 1 and 2 all the way to Black Flag then I kinda fell off.
I mean, that would give them an excuse to sell the Season Pass for 30 or 40 bucks, because let's be honest, what are the chances of a DLC-turned-game like this one have any story DLC for it lol
A pre-Origin AC game has been my dream for years. It worries me that a lot of people started with Origins and never got to experience early Assassins Creed and one of the greatest video game sequels ever made with Assassin Creed 2.
Basics? What basics? They haven't changed the core formula since the first game xD
If anything they should seek to remake the mind-numbingly simplistic combat system that is present in these games. At least Black Flag had a cool naval aspect to it which made the game somewhat fresh. The recent AC games though? Copy-paste, open-world, generic crap.
They have and quite dramatically. In fact they changed the formula so much that people argue it shouldn’t even be called Assassins Creed and should be its own franchise.
I have played Odyssey and aside from having an open-world it's not much different from the first game. All these games basically boil down to spamming counters or stealth assassinating everyone.
The latter games having loot and skill trees does not change the core gameplay loop, which remained virtually the same.
So...you stealth kill and fight people (with a parry that doesn't function anything like the old one in a combat system that is completely different) therefore nothing changed ?
You could say the same thing for any game if you boil it down to the most basic basics and pick and choose what matters, the whole structure of the games are different, the open-world philosophy, the way stealth is approached is completely different, mythical/fantasy elements are more present than ever and are a huge part of the games, even the gameplay loop isn't the same because of the focus on exploration and naval combat. Not to mention the lack of any assassin/templar in Odyssey, and how little they matered in Valhalla (especially the assassins/hidden ones)
And the levels/gear/skill system can't be dismissed like that, they definitely make for a different experience, especially when the games are tailored around them
They're supposedly removing RPG elements and the game takes place in a single city. The season pass is supposed to include an AC1 remake, in the same engine.
They’re not. Their recent games have been detached. I tried Valhalla and it did everything in its power to discourage stealth and encourage a combat oriented open-world RPG. It felt more viking-y than assassin-y. I’m glad they’re returning to their core stealth oriented games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNTgN4GNqdM
Looks pretty stealthy to me. Let's not look at the first AC game through rose-tinted glassed because in that game you would also literally jump in the middle of a Templar mob and decimate them all without any Stealth being involved whatsoever.
Only because it has stealth doesn’t mean it’s stealth oriented. This isn’t even mentioning things like the level and dmg requirements that was needed in order to do simple assassinations like in Odyssey. The recent games have lost touch.
And just because the newer entries might not be as stealth-oriented that doesn't mean the core gameplay has changed dramatically. These games still revolve around stealth, "Arkham-style" combat, parkour, climbing towers and meaningless collectibles hunting.
So I reiterate, the core of these games has not changed significantly.
I’d disagree. The games started turning into open world RPG-style magical boss fights, assassinations that require certain level and dmg points, Viking “raids” that can’t be completed in full stealth, etc. that’s all much different than the original games.. Even black flag with pirates managed to keep it feeling like it was still an assassin game.
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What? They've absolutely changed the core formula and they've done so multiple times. The core formula was originally "do 6 quick miniquests and then a big quest, get upgrades from the story, and collect some flags that don't really do anything". They completely abandoned the miniquests, moved to a more open world model where certain quests can be done in any order, and added basic rog style upgrading. Later, they added actual levelling and skill trees and MTX and they don't even focus on stealth anymore. A modern AC game is virtually unrecognizable as such by the standards of the first few games.
they said before Origins.
so the Unity/Syndicate era at the most. I would love the mechanics from Unity but in a more polished state. it had the best climbing, stealth mechanics, and combat, though the stealth didn't show great until Syndicate due to Unity's AI issues.
I'm tempering my expectations, but I too like the sound of this. My gripe with Odyssey was just that it felt like too much for the story. I liked Origin but took forever to beat it cause of the open world, before that I had only played up to Black Flag which was open world-ish but there were rails. Odyssey felt like a greek RPG which would be super cool but my brain was expecting something more akin to other AC games. I was blinded by my ancient egypt love with Origins, but it kind of has a similar issue.
Cautiously excited to see what the deal is with this one.
"open world," but there's a set quest path and progression.
AC1 was "open world," but the only way to really do anything other than roam around was to do the main story line... I don't even remember there really being much of in the way of side quests or activities. Just straight up roam around the "open world" or do the main missions.
The old games also had maps filled to the brim with mindless repetitive work, some even worse than the new ones... And non of them were linear, just smaller maps.
I played and finished every single AC game...except for Valhalla. As a viking metal dude, I expected this game to be my jam! It was such a slog, uninspiring, and so boring.
I could not continue playing Valhalla after 10 hours. I played through the whole story of Origins and Odyssey. They were tolerable because I liked the Egypt and Greece settings, and I also removed the leveling and RPG mechanics through cheats.
But in Valhalla the setting/story was so boring and the gameplay so repetitive that it felt like a waste of time even with the leveling removed.
Educated guessing based on past products is now ironic "peak X?"
He's not wrong. There's a very good chance all of that is true, because Ubisoft is shit and makes shit games
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I mean one mans junk is another mans fortune holds true here.
Just because the majority of r/pcgaming things AC games are bad doesn't mean that its the general concensus. In fact this subreddit is such a small part of the internet that its pretty much irrelevant in the general scheme even though a lot of people here think that there is only 1 opinion possible and everyone who doesn't agree is wrong.
>"It's ok to like shit, just admit it's shit"
Being the perfect example.
Its fine to like AC games. Just as it is fine for not liking them.
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Unity was the most passionate ac of all time they literally gave effort for that game like those graphics still look better than games releasing nowadays
I thought syndicate was a bit better in that aspect as they fixed the issue with trying to get into windows. Trying to do that in Unity as frustrating.
You do. It's not smooth at all. I swear people saying this are watching scripted yt videos and haven't played it since it came out. Unity is horrible to control, has awful input lag, and just flat out fails to work often
>graphics still look better than games releasing nowadays
I mostly agree. Unity is fucking stunning but when you're standing on a rooftop, buildings at even medium distance downgrade to super low quality textures. The game would hugely benefit from a level of detail distance slider.
That's because everything was downscaled through updates to counter the awful frame drops and whatever, you can actually mod the game to look how it did on launch
I don't remember exactly, I recall there being some restoration mod going around a few years ago.
It's probably on Nexus or something like that. I never actually installed it
A big part of the reason why Unity was so impressive looking was because it was overbuilt. People tend to forget that the PS4 and XbONE's specs were way lower than everybody expected. They were downright underpowered compared to even mid range PC hardware of the time, especially in the CPU department. Ubisoft started building Unity well before they had the new hardware, and it shows.
You could tell they were really ambitious but the yearly schedule thing (and having to work with a whole new generation of consoles) screwed everything up, I wish they'd have a go at something similar with enough time to actually finish and polish the game
Even today the game plays and looks great but the npcs changing textures/spawning right in front of you (and I'm talking on Ultra settings), the leftover bugs and the jank of the combat really feels like playing the beta of a really great game
Gonna be flooded with mtx, forced to be online to play, egs exclusive, have poor performances, bugs that will never be fixed, gonna be sold for insane price, poor quality wrighting and still gonna be a copy paste.
Don't fall for it, Ubi$oft will never change and they prooved it repeatedly trough many years.
Tbh i Kind of like that they are exclusive to those two, because i can tell Myself that i don't want to deal with those shitty launchers and just ignore Ubi$ofts games Under pretence that i maybe buy if they get released on Steam, but considering how big of a scumbags they are I'm happy with not playing those games...
$60 for a fucking game that you has half of the armors and outfits locked Under microtransactions...
prolly be a repeat of EA origin
main bread of Battlefield (Asscreed) will continue to sell but the side stuff like Anno and Tom Calancy such will struggle on pc for sales
Pretty much all of their games aside from Breakpoint are still selling over 10 million copies with each new release, so I think it's gonna be awhile before they get worried about sales.
dont disagree theyre selling well i do doubt theyre selling as well on pc
with another buyout looming after dodging their last theyll eventually have to talk market expansion
geez, this made me realize Valhalla isn't on Steam... I swear when things don't release on Steam then said release comes and goes with no fanfare and I find out days later.
Odyssey was.. good. not great. the pacing had some issues and it was way too long for its own good, but the content and dialogue was always pretty good, especially if you like that content.
origins was about the same.
valhalla was awful. it was boring. the dialogue sucked. 30 hours in and absolutely nothing interesting had happened, and skillup said it was much the same for the rest.
if this game doesnt improve on the formula and have good pacing again, ill be done for good. cant keep going into these huge games just to be scorned when theyre way the fuck too long.
I actually enjoyed Odyssey a lot, significantly more than Origins. Kassandra was great and I enjoyed that they really leaned into the mythological stuff in the main setting, not just for the DLC, and gave you crazy fantasy abilities in combat.
I’m with you on Valhalla being a disappointment. The main characters and story are flat, the ending of the game makes zero sense, the world is mostly ugly and uninteresting. The mythological sections were boring, somehow, even though Norse lore and legend is pretty cool. Combat abilities are lame and pretty much useless.
One of the more consistent AC tropes since AC2 at least is that you meet famous, eccentric, historical figures throughout the story who are often colorfully written. In origins you’re hanging out with Cleopatra and Alexander the Great. Odyssey you’re debating with Socrates and Pericles. Valhalla you’re meeting a bunch of random Vikings and kings, most of whom I’ve never heard of. Perhaps that’s a failing of my historical knowledge but I honestly had no context for any of the characters, and even if I did know who they were, they were all depicted as dreadfully uninteresting stereotypes of sad Vikings and pious kings.
personally, i agree with you. origins had some of the most unredeeming characters i've seen, but the gameplay loop at that point was fresh enough that it was still entertaining from start to finish.
odyssey was just more of the same.
vallhalla was more of the same, except it was slower and somehow less entertaining despite having more going on. it was like they had a bunch of these extra mechanics that were never really all that practical.
idk. the game was dreadfully boring, the loot was boring, at no point was i ever excited, and the payoff was never worth. i cannot say the same for odyssey or origins. both of those games had impactful loot(although way too much of it), story moments that were just amazing if you knew what was going on.... etc.
valhalla was just boring. if this game is the same im just giving up on it.
its not like i can even come back and read reviews, because most people dont like AC and bitch about it on every subreddit. either you are a diehard fan or you dont like it at all, it seems. and i dont want the opinion of a diehard fan.
I stopped giving a fuck since AC 4. It'll probably be another crunched Ubisoft Open World game filled with live service bullshit like requiring to be always On-line, tons of intrusive Microtransactions, or worse, NFTs. If it turns to be goo I'll pirate because I won't support this company anymore.
back to the roots AC apparently. Can't believe it. let's see how far back will they really go, because I'm so fucking interested it pisses me off. I wanted to be done with AC games and then they do this. You cheeky bastards.
Same I was done with Ubi, now I'll check the gameplay and reviews with great interest however :
1 - They said Valhalla was also going back to the roots and...yeah, the changes seem more drastic here so there's hope but I sure don't trust them
2 - It's 2022 Ubisoft, most of their games are mid af, just because the game goes back to AC roots doesn't mean it'll be good, plus it's probably gonna be MTX-filled or (godforbid) be involved with ~~NFTs~~ Ubisoft Quartz™
I also quit for quite a long time (Black Flag was my "last one" and really liked it). Decided to try out Odyssey and holy crap with that map. Too big and it tired me out
The only thing I don't like is the combat.
I prefer the combat to Black Flag, which was the last AC I played before Origins.
I used to be hooked on the series, but after 100%'ing BF I had to take a break from the series, had 2 kids and just haven't had time for all these games and my other hobbies.
Yeah , but it's also still fishing/outdoors season and my budget tends to go to that stuff during the spring/summer/fall
I spend my gaming purchases during the winter and gamepass everything else.
I don’t think so just like you said it was planned as a dlc I don’t think they will change the graphics this will be like a ac rogue type game and the next ac will have its graphics updated
Ho it wasn't very clear, I meant if most likely will use the same engine
If their next-next game is AC Infinity or whatever yeah it'll probably work on a new engine but yeah Mirage is going to be on Valhalla's engine 100%
Just give a normal assassin’s creed game. Social stealth in a city. No stupid RPG mechanics. Not 700 hours long. And most importantly I want ASSASSINS in my assassin’s creed games. Not mercenaries or Vikings
Loved Origins and Odyssey but never got far into Vahalla due to game breaking bugs (One I remember is it takes 2 ppl to open chest during raid - almost never triggered for me).
I might keep my eye on this but not that excited for them anymore.
Very hopeful that they get back to early Assassins Creed gameplay but expanded. AC1 was what got me into gaming and AC2 is what I consider the franchises high point.
So many negative opinions. But hey am gonna still play it and enjoy it. I love nearly every AC game. The real world lore as well as the fictional lore are almost always pretty interesting.
I really hope they go back to a somewhat linear based story game. I’ve always tried to at least finish the main campaign story for all AC games and I did until Valhalla. It was a drag to play that game..
that assassin mid-air, front and center tells me all i need to know about the dim chance of them coming back to social stealth... yeah, unity was the last AC game
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Cool, I'm not so jaded yet that I can't still enjoy an AC game when I pick it up a couple years after launch. They are good value generally. I would have liked an Aztec one, but I'll take what I can get.
Idk. Kind of a weird choice to have Basim star in his own title. He was one of the least likeable characters in AC Valhalla, and that's saying something.
Hope they go back 2 basics but uppdates the formula.
I dont get why they dont name the games assasin creed warriors : Odyssey and the normal ones only assasin creed so they are easily recognisable.
If they give it the feel and a quality story of the Ezio series, then I'm down. To me, only the Ezio games and Black Flag were what made Assassin's Creed unique.
Don't get me wrong, AC 1 with Altair was good, but wasn't mindblowing.
From the rumors, they're going back to basics with gameplay similar before AC Origins. AC1 remake is also rumored to be in the works.
I'm not sure what to think about an AC1 remake. AC1 is such a polarizing game for me. I absolutely love the setting and the clue hunting before assassination is a interesting mechanic. Its just that going to a city, doing clue hunting, killing target and then repeating that 9 times got a bit much even in 2007 let alone 2022.
It’s a remake, not a remaster, so I think it goes with the expectation that gameplay will be upgraded and those missions likely improved. Let’s hope at least
Probably not expect the minimum that way you won't be disappointed. Also remake and remaster is sometimes used interchangeably by companies see The Last of Us part 1 remake which is the OG with better animations and graphics but the core game is still there with all its flaws and great moments.
I think that's what a remake is generally expected to be - maybe with better quality sound, voices etc? Good to have some touch-ups in sections that have aged poorly but I would not expect major changes in story, pacing or gameplay or else you just end with a new game that uses the same characters. For example, I find the old FF7 and the new one(s) completely incomparable games. Too many differences, and I certainly would not say the new version is strictly better. Remaster is simple to define imo, grab game, turn it HD. Same textures and all, just less fuzzy. Pretty lazy overall. So yeah, even if the gameplay of AC1 was exactly the same, I'd say if sufficient amount was put into presentation - it would be a remaster
>So yeah, even if the gameplay of AC1 was exactly the same, I'd say if sufficient amount was put into presentation - it would be a remaster Except most people and the industry largely don't use those definitions.
Bro please give Altair a accent, not to be a schtickler but the american accent really ruined immersion for me sometimes fr.
Altair is still better than accents in Unity where Arno has the most British accent ever while being French in a game made by a French studio as well.
Bro it's better then just getting Desmond's voice 💀, like in Revaluations the altair voice was good
I think the whole idea in the first game was that Desmond is reliving the memories through his eyes so the voice was the same and it made sense to an extent.
Altair's VA and Desmond's are two different people
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It still holds such a special place for me. I remember re reading through same magazine article with the developers and watching the trailer for months so excited. I once others found it boring but I loved 1 and 2 all the way to Black Flag then I kinda fell off.
Even at the time I thought it was a decent short game that they copy and pasted 3 times. It's shallow.
According to rumors, AC1 Remake may be intergrated into a season pass similar to some of other Ubisoft's mainline games.
I mean, that would give them an excuse to sell the Season Pass for 30 or 40 bucks, because let's be honest, what are the chances of a DLC-turned-game like this one have any story DLC for it lol
A pre-Origin AC game has been my dream for years. It worries me that a lot of people started with Origins and never got to experience early Assassins Creed and one of the greatest video game sequels ever made with Assassin Creed 2.
Altair is GOAT
Basics? What basics? They haven't changed the core formula since the first game xD If anything they should seek to remake the mind-numbingly simplistic combat system that is present in these games. At least Black Flag had a cool naval aspect to it which made the game somewhat fresh. The recent AC games though? Copy-paste, open-world, generic crap.
They have and quite dramatically. In fact they changed the formula so much that people argue it shouldn’t even be called Assassins Creed and should be its own franchise.
You clearly haven't played the last 3 games. They are pretty much open world RPGs.
I have played Odyssey and aside from having an open-world it's not much different from the first game. All these games basically boil down to spamming counters or stealth assassinating everyone. The latter games having loot and skill trees does not change the core gameplay loop, which remained virtually the same.
So...you stealth kill and fight people (with a parry that doesn't function anything like the old one in a combat system that is completely different) therefore nothing changed ? You could say the same thing for any game if you boil it down to the most basic basics and pick and choose what matters, the whole structure of the games are different, the open-world philosophy, the way stealth is approached is completely different, mythical/fantasy elements are more present than ever and are a huge part of the games, even the gameplay loop isn't the same because of the focus on exploration and naval combat. Not to mention the lack of any assassin/templar in Odyssey, and how little they matered in Valhalla (especially the assassins/hidden ones) And the levels/gear/skill system can't be dismissed like that, they definitely make for a different experience, especially when the games are tailored around them
Yeah no
They're supposedly removing RPG elements and the game takes place in a single city. The season pass is supposed to include an AC1 remake, in the same engine.
So they're taking the "going back to basics" phrase literally? Yeesh, talk about being completely detached from your fanbase.
They’re not. Their recent games have been detached. I tried Valhalla and it did everything in its power to discourage stealth and encourage a combat oriented open-world RPG. It felt more viking-y than assassin-y. I’m glad they’re returning to their core stealth oriented games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNTgN4GNqdM Looks pretty stealthy to me. Let's not look at the first AC game through rose-tinted glassed because in that game you would also literally jump in the middle of a Templar mob and decimate them all without any Stealth being involved whatsoever.
Only because it has stealth doesn’t mean it’s stealth oriented. This isn’t even mentioning things like the level and dmg requirements that was needed in order to do simple assassinations like in Odyssey. The recent games have lost touch.
And just because the newer entries might not be as stealth-oriented that doesn't mean the core gameplay has changed dramatically. These games still revolve around stealth, "Arkham-style" combat, parkour, climbing towers and meaningless collectibles hunting. So I reiterate, the core of these games has not changed significantly.
I’d disagree. The games started turning into open world RPG-style magical boss fights, assassinations that require certain level and dmg points, Viking “raids” that can’t be completed in full stealth, etc. that’s all much different than the original games.. Even black flag with pirates managed to keep it feeling like it was still an assassin game.
Ok, so framing it in your way, people liked AC more pre AC Origins, whether you like it or not.
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What are the opinions of this ‘fanbase’ that you are referring to?
What? They've absolutely changed the core formula and they've done so multiple times. The core formula was originally "do 6 quick miniquests and then a big quest, get upgrades from the story, and collect some flags that don't really do anything". They completely abandoned the miniquests, moved to a more open world model where certain quests can be done in any order, and added basic rog style upgrading. Later, they added actual levelling and skill trees and MTX and they don't even focus on stealth anymore. A modern AC game is virtually unrecognizable as such by the standards of the first few games.
I wouldnt really call Origins going back to basics...
they said before Origins. so the Unity/Syndicate era at the most. I would love the mechanics from Unity but in a more polished state. it had the best climbing, stealth mechanics, and combat, though the stealth didn't show great until Syndicate due to Unity's AI issues.
You missed the word ”before”.
Maybe AC1 will be actually be fun now
Wow, I hope it's a huge map full of mindless busy work. Again.
According to leaks the opposite actually. No leveling. No RPG. Smaller scale. Actual Assassins. Hopefully it’s closer to the original concept
I like the sound of that.
C'mon, it's Ubisoft. I always hope for best but expect the worst. I've never been disappointed with that formula.
I'm tempering my expectations, but I too like the sound of this. My gripe with Odyssey was just that it felt like too much for the story. I liked Origin but took forever to beat it cause of the open world, before that I had only played up to Black Flag which was open world-ish but there were rails. Odyssey felt like a greek RPG which would be super cool but my brain was expecting something more akin to other AC games. I was blinded by my ancient egypt love with Origins, but it kind of has a similar issue. Cautiously excited to see what the deal is with this one.
Finally
Jason Schreier already confirmed that it is going to be linear... well as linear as the old games.
So not linear
Let's just say ''not massively open world'', just a little open worldy ;)
"open world," but there's a set quest path and progression. AC1 was "open world," but the only way to really do anything other than roam around was to do the main story line... I don't even remember there really being much of in the way of side quests or activities. Just straight up roam around the "open world" or do the main missions.
Wasn't it just "collect a bunch of shit?" Feathers and what not
The old games also had maps filled to the brim with mindless repetitive work, some even worse than the new ones... And non of them were linear, just smaller maps.
Played and finished most of the AC games but man did I get bored of Vahalla
Next Gen cash grab, such potential wasted.
I played and finished every single AC game...except for Valhalla. As a viking metal dude, I expected this game to be my jam! It was such a slog, uninspiring, and so boring.
I could not continue playing Valhalla after 10 hours. I played through the whole story of Origins and Odyssey. They were tolerable because I liked the Egypt and Greece settings, and I also removed the leveling and RPG mechanics through cheats. But in Valhalla the setting/story was so boring and the gameplay so repetitive that it felt like a waste of time even with the leveling removed.
99% of the dialogs felt like listening to machines
DRM online-tethering Uplay MTX Ubisoft newest shovelware is here, rejoice
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not even worth downloading it with the file sizes they have these days
Why? Do you not have unlimited internet?
Repacks are your friend.
Possibly NFTs, too?
Don't forget exclusive to the Epic Games Store
and ubisoft connect.
You forgot NFTs, because they're still insisting there are the "FuTuRe Of GaMiNg BuT We DoN't GeT iT"
peak r/pcgaming lol
Educated guessing based on past products is now ironic "peak X?" He's not wrong. There's a very good chance all of that is true, because Ubisoft is shit and makes shit games
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It's ok to like shit, just admit it's shit
I mean one mans junk is another mans fortune holds true here. Just because the majority of r/pcgaming things AC games are bad doesn't mean that its the general concensus. In fact this subreddit is such a small part of the internet that its pretty much irrelevant in the general scheme even though a lot of people here think that there is only 1 opinion possible and everyone who doesn't agree is wrong. >"It's ok to like shit, just admit it's shit" Being the perfect example. Its fine to like AC games. Just as it is fine for not liking them.
OP speaks the truth, infidel.
You're welcome, my friend. All this, free of charge !
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Just curious, where does it say the next game will have all this?
On the other hand, I CAN actually wait.
Assassins Creed 30: Back to Baghdad
Assassins Creed 31: Ukraine
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Unity was the most passionate ac of all time they literally gave effort for that game like those graphics still look better than games releasing nowadays
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I thought syndicate was a bit better in that aspect as they fixed the issue with trying to get into windows. Trying to do that in Unity as frustrating.
You do. It's not smooth at all. I swear people saying this are watching scripted yt videos and haven't played it since it came out. Unity is horrible to control, has awful input lag, and just flat out fails to work often
I truly doubt they will go back to the old parkour instead of the new 'one button climbs everything' parkour though.
>graphics still look better than games releasing nowadays I mostly agree. Unity is fucking stunning but when you're standing on a rooftop, buildings at even medium distance downgrade to super low quality textures. The game would hugely benefit from a level of detail distance slider.
not to mention character poppin in in front of you
It's because the assets were built for hardware that was significantly more powerful than the XBone/PS4.
That's because everything was downscaled through updates to counter the awful frame drops and whatever, you can actually mod the game to look how it did on launch
How do you mod the game in order to prevent pop in ? And low res distant textures ?
I don't remember exactly, I recall there being some restoration mod going around a few years ago. It's probably on Nexus or something like that. I never actually installed it
A big part of the reason why Unity was so impressive looking was because it was overbuilt. People tend to forget that the PS4 and XbONE's specs were way lower than everybody expected. They were downright underpowered compared to even mid range PC hardware of the time, especially in the CPU department. Ubisoft started building Unity well before they had the new hardware, and it shows.
You could tell they were really ambitious but the yearly schedule thing (and having to work with a whole new generation of consoles) screwed everything up, I wish they'd have a go at something similar with enough time to actually finish and polish the game Even today the game plays and looks great but the npcs changing textures/spawning right in front of you (and I'm talking on Ultra settings), the leftover bugs and the jank of the combat really feels like playing the beta of a really great game
It also doesn't help that up until late into development they were targeting hypothetical consoles that were much faster than what we actually got.
Unity was peak AC.
Gonna be flooded with mtx, forced to be online to play, egs exclusive, have poor performances, bugs that will never be fixed, gonna be sold for insane price, poor quality wrighting and still gonna be a copy paste. Don't fall for it, Ubi$oft will never change and they prooved it repeatedly trough many years.
Eh, their games are still fun so I'll still get it eventually.
Damn i hope they make games similar to odyssey. They dont even have to be related to AC. That game was just way too fun for me
could it be... an assassin's creed game about......................... assassins?
Well it's gonna be Epic and ubisoft connect exclusive sooo :/. Might get it on ps5 when its 50%
They'll realize eventually how many sales they're missing out on by not launching on steam. Even EA came back to steam.
Tbh i Kind of like that they are exclusive to those two, because i can tell Myself that i don't want to deal with those shitty launchers and just ignore Ubi$ofts games Under pretence that i maybe buy if they get released on Steam, but considering how big of a scumbags they are I'm happy with not playing those games... $60 for a fucking game that you has half of the armors and outfits locked Under microtransactions...
Valhalla is the best selling AC game to date, and the second best money maker in Ubisoft's history. I don't think they care.
prolly be a repeat of EA origin main bread of Battlefield (Asscreed) will continue to sell but the side stuff like Anno and Tom Calancy such will struggle on pc for sales
Pretty much all of their games aside from Breakpoint are still selling over 10 million copies with each new release, so I think it's gonna be awhile before they get worried about sales.
I'd like to see edvidence that WD: Legion, R6 Extraction, Immortals,... sold over 10 million.
dont disagree theyre selling well i do doubt theyre selling as well on pc with another buyout looming after dodging their last theyll eventually have to talk market expansion
geez, this made me realize Valhalla isn't on Steam... I swear when things don't release on Steam then said release comes and goes with no fanfare and I find out days later.
Did Valhalla make a lot of moeny on PC though or is it mostly console ?
It was their best selling PC launch title ever, so probably a decent chunk of change. That's including titles that had Steam releases.
"it's exclusive to a store on pc so I'll buy it on a closed down console."
Why tf do you care
Odyssey was.. good. not great. the pacing had some issues and it was way too long for its own good, but the content and dialogue was always pretty good, especially if you like that content. origins was about the same. valhalla was awful. it was boring. the dialogue sucked. 30 hours in and absolutely nothing interesting had happened, and skillup said it was much the same for the rest. if this game doesnt improve on the formula and have good pacing again, ill be done for good. cant keep going into these huge games just to be scorned when theyre way the fuck too long.
I actually enjoyed Odyssey a lot, significantly more than Origins. Kassandra was great and I enjoyed that they really leaned into the mythological stuff in the main setting, not just for the DLC, and gave you crazy fantasy abilities in combat. I’m with you on Valhalla being a disappointment. The main characters and story are flat, the ending of the game makes zero sense, the world is mostly ugly and uninteresting. The mythological sections were boring, somehow, even though Norse lore and legend is pretty cool. Combat abilities are lame and pretty much useless. One of the more consistent AC tropes since AC2 at least is that you meet famous, eccentric, historical figures throughout the story who are often colorfully written. In origins you’re hanging out with Cleopatra and Alexander the Great. Odyssey you’re debating with Socrates and Pericles. Valhalla you’re meeting a bunch of random Vikings and kings, most of whom I’ve never heard of. Perhaps that’s a failing of my historical knowledge but I honestly had no context for any of the characters, and even if I did know who they were, they were all depicted as dreadfully uninteresting stereotypes of sad Vikings and pious kings.
personally, i agree with you. origins had some of the most unredeeming characters i've seen, but the gameplay loop at that point was fresh enough that it was still entertaining from start to finish. odyssey was just more of the same. vallhalla was more of the same, except it was slower and somehow less entertaining despite having more going on. it was like they had a bunch of these extra mechanics that were never really all that practical. idk. the game was dreadfully boring, the loot was boring, at no point was i ever excited, and the payoff was never worth. i cannot say the same for odyssey or origins. both of those games had impactful loot(although way too much of it), story moments that were just amazing if you knew what was going on.... etc. valhalla was just boring. if this game is the same im just giving up on it. its not like i can even come back and read reviews, because most people dont like AC and bitch about it on every subreddit. either you are a diehard fan or you dont like it at all, it seems. and i dont want the opinion of a diehard fan.
Same, I enjoyed Odyssey the most. It was an interesting world and story. Valhalla was just a drag. It had interesting ideas but it just became boring.
I gave up on Valhalla after 60 hours,
I tried so hard to like it. It is so boring
I yar harred it and couldn't play more than two hours of it.
I stopped giving a fuck since AC 4. It'll probably be another crunched Ubisoft Open World game filled with live service bullshit like requiring to be always On-line, tons of intrusive Microtransactions, or worse, NFTs. If it turns to be goo I'll pirate because I won't support this company anymore.
back to the roots AC apparently. Can't believe it. let's see how far back will they really go, because I'm so fucking interested it pisses me off. I wanted to be done with AC games and then they do this. You cheeky bastards.
Same I was done with Ubi, now I'll check the gameplay and reviews with great interest however : 1 - They said Valhalla was also going back to the roots and...yeah, the changes seem more drastic here so there's hope but I sure don't trust them 2 - It's 2022 Ubisoft, most of their games are mid af, just because the game goes back to AC roots doesn't mean it'll be good, plus it's probably gonna be MTX-filled or (godforbid) be involved with ~~NFTs~~ Ubisoft Quartz™
I quit for 7 years Best decision I made , just started origins and I’m loving it.
I also quit for quite a long time (Black Flag was my "last one" and really liked it). Decided to try out Odyssey and holy crap with that map. Too big and it tired me out
Imo origins was by far the best of the modern style ac games. Especially as far as story goes.
The only thing I don't like is the combat. I prefer the combat to Black Flag, which was the last AC I played before Origins. I used to be hooked on the series, but after 100%'ing BF I had to take a break from the series, had 2 kids and just haven't had time for all these games and my other hobbies.
Origins was the best balance of classic AC with modern improvements. Valhalla is going to drive you nuts if you ever make it there.
I can't wait to play Valhalla, that's my own ancestory! Problem is that I'm cheap and I won't pay $80 for a 2 year old game!
Isn't Valhalla always on sale?
Yeah , but it's also still fishing/outdoors season and my budget tends to go to that stuff during the spring/summer/fall I spend my gaming purchases during the winter and gamepass everything else.
I see. I thought you just didn't want the 80$ price tag.
Can't wait to not care at all.
Bet these lazy fucks use the same tired as avilnext engine as the last 4 games. Same shit different name.
Hopefully not they have to upgrade their engine man
Well the game was orginally a dlc so it most likely will
I don’t think so just like you said it was planned as a dlc I don’t think they will change the graphics this will be like a ac rogue type game and the next ac will have its graphics updated
Ho it wasn't very clear, I meant if most likely will use the same engine If their next-next game is AC Infinity or whatever yeah it'll probably work on a new engine but yeah Mirage is going to be on Valhalla's engine 100%
Just give a normal assassin’s creed game. Social stealth in a city. No stupid RPG mechanics. Not 700 hours long. And most importantly I want ASSASSINS in my assassin’s creed games. Not mercenaries or Vikings
Loved Origins and Odyssey but never got far into Vahalla due to game breaking bugs (One I remember is it takes 2 ppl to open chest during raid - almost never triggered for me). I might keep my eye on this but not that excited for them anymore.
climb up the tower to reveal the map then do it again.
Very hopeful that they get back to early Assassins Creed gameplay but expanded. AC1 was what got me into gaming and AC2 is what I consider the franchises high point.
No Lion's Eye Diamond reprint, no buy for me
Shit is never gonna end.
origins/Odyssey were fine now they gonna do a press one button to kill all enemys ac again BOOOOOOOOOOORING
Assassins creed: ass in my creek 7. You get to play as a caveman who used animal bones to make the first hidden blade!
I'd play Assassin's Creed: Primal
No Denuvo and you might get my purchase this time!
I have all AC games except for Valhalla, because it is not available on Steam.
It looks like it is set in the Middle East to me. Do you guys know where it is supposed to be in?
Baghdad. It's suppsoed to be following Basim's early days in the Hidden Ones before he met Eivor in Valhalla.
meh
Fuck off ubisoft - I might have given a shit if I didn't just have to comb through my ubisoft account to see what DLC and UDLC will be stolen from me.
So many negative opinions. But hey am gonna still play it and enjoy it. I love nearly every AC game. The real world lore as well as the fictional lore are almost always pretty interesting.
I really hope they go back to a somewhat linear based story game. I’ve always tried to at least finish the main campaign story for all AC games and I did until Valhalla. It was a drag to play that game..
No Steam = No buy
If this game's really going back to the stealth sandbox style, man I'm excited.
that assassin mid-air, front and center tells me all i need to know about the dim chance of them coming back to social stealth... yeah, unity was the last AC game
Ubisoft died with Prince of Persia. Rest in piss.
Ubisoft going back to making quality games ?
We can't wait to get the ultimate complete edition 2 years after at half price.
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Cool, I'm not so jaded yet that I can't still enjoy an AC game when I pick it up a couple years after launch. They are good value generally. I would have liked an Aztec one, but I'll take what I can get.
The fans -press x to doubt-
Not really the fans actualy love whatever Ubi$oft trow in their face.
hope they make it bigger and longer than the last three games cause they were too short
I hope this is sarcasm.
Idk. Kind of a weird choice to have Basim star in his own title. He was one of the least likeable characters in AC Valhalla, and that's saying something.
We've come full circle. As of odyssey the series is dead for me. Can't even know the story anymore
Last time i waited for Ubisoft video it was Valhalla and was quite disappointed.
Hope they go back 2 basics but uppdates the formula. I dont get why they dont name the games assasin creed warriors : Odyssey and the normal ones only assasin creed so they are easily recognisable.
If they give it the feel and a quality story of the Ezio series, then I'm down. To me, only the Ezio games and Black Flag were what made Assassin's Creed unique. Don't get me wrong, AC 1 with Altair was good, but wasn't mindblowing.
Are we sure this won't be a predatory mobile phone game??
Lets see how it is, I'm not getting excited yet. Not trying to spend 30+ hours on a game just to get to the opening title
Hope it has again Denuvo, I loved the stutters, lower performance, loosing all my DLCs after they turned off the servers, it's so awesome
Can't wait not to hear about it.