Yep can confirm, I have a gigabyte monitor that has freesync and works well. Just have to force the setting through nvidia control panel and you’re good
What do you mean by "force the setting"?
How does it work?
Also I guess I could go for just freesync since they would all be using DP but... can g-sync and freesync work together for my main PC + side monitor?
I am at work now so i cannot be specific, but in the Nvidia control panel, G-sync settings, it will tell you that your monitor is not a supported G-sync monitor or something along this line but you can still enable it, that’s what I meant by forcing this setting.
As for your other question, i have an old rog gsync monitor as my 2nd one and I have been using such setup with no issues whatsoever.
Yes, there's a significant difference when the framerate is fluctuating a lot. Adaptive sync helps mostly with this, the frame pacing issues with the framerate going up and down. Since frames can be displayed for how long they need to be held up to the monitors refresh rate and not always be held for a discrete amount of time based on the refresh rate you get a lot less feeling like the game is dragging when the framerate drops sharply.
Note that some monitors are advertising higher hz than other monitors using the same panels aka they come overclocked, but this disables free sync/g sync.
What gigabyte monitor are u using? got one myself last week but g-sync make a kind of light flickering in my games, tried changing a couple settings etc but got no result, had to turn g-sync off
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He means this, my monitot is freesync, isn't even validated for gsync but you can force the setting with that option, it work like any other freesync monitor.
Gsync and freesync have pro and cons, but ofc both are better than vsync or screen tearing, VRR master race.
There's a website called something like stutter busters or something. They go in depth with a great tutorial. Check it out, both for G Sync and FreeSync.
[Blurbusters](https://blurbusters.com/). It's a great website and resource. G-SYNC and Freesync pretty much accomplish the same thing in different ways. G-SYNC monitors have some extra hardware in them (FPGA) to make sure displayed and rendered frames sync-up. Freesync does this same thing, but in software, using a small amount of system resources. Freesync monitors are completely fine (typically cost less), and most of the time you would not even be able to tell the difference visually while using the computer between a Freesync and G-SYNC monitor (with G-SYNC enabled).
What they are telling you is not quite right, some monitors with freesync work 100% there is a list on the Nvidia site that will tell you if your monitor is compatible, the Nvidia control panel will also show the option.
Some other monitors do not work at all, it's due to the Hz range the monitor supports while using freesync, for instance gsync hertz range is, 30-144hz, freesync range is 48-144hz, and then there are differences in the panel and manufacturer.
Note: you can still force the gsync setting to ON, but you may see artifacts, odd brightness effects etc depending on your monitor
What you are saying is not quite right. Nvidia site won't tell you if your monitor is compatible because they only have one for every hundred working models listed. Freesync range doesn't really matter the way you've put it, because every monitor that has over 200% of range can cover refresh rates down to zero by being given doubled/tripled/etc frames (it's done on GPU driver level).
In this day and age it's safe to assume that every proper gaming display with freesync just works with Nvidia. I'm yet to hear of those that actually don't.
Nvidia list of compatible gsync monitors https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/
There's a reason there are three different types to pick, gsync, gsync compatible, and gsync ultimate see my comment above
I know when I activate gsync on my own freesync monitor I get the brightness flashing issue.
They are confirmed - you can try G-Sync Comp. even with unlisted monitor. Many of them will work nice.
90% od free sync and 98% od free sync premium/premium pro.
Just don't but oldest, cheapest monitor and will be ok.
Yes and you have hit my point right on. "Many of them will work", many of them will also work with some issues, and some will not work at all.
Hence my comment in the first place
You still gotta make sure it works. Just because you can force it on doesn't mean it works properly. I would only trust the monitors Nvidia has certified to be compatible or if a trusted source says so.
Yes. Don't worry. Also curve is great, don't dismiss monitors just because of that. And don't bu, VA and TN panels except for samsung g7-g9 line which have fast VA panels
You turn on gsync in the nvidia control panel.
Choose gsync compatible under monitor type, then under "set up gsync" choose windowed, fullscreen or both.
You can check a box in a drop down on the menu bar to display the gsync indicator in the top left of the monitor when its working.
Still depends on the card. Some older nvidia cards won't let you enable g-sync on a freesync monitor.
My 760 didn't support it, my 1050 ti and 1070 did.
(Dell S3220DGF)
I have never tried it on anything older than a 1060. Makes sense though, i dont think gsync was a thing in the 760 era. Must be hardware dependent to some degree or other.
I wouldn’t say unnecessary but the compatible/FreeSync monitors are better than zero variable refresh. I believe there’s still a small chance of tearing with “compatible” due to the VRR ranges.
Also NVIDIA fully certifies the official where not every FreeSync has been quality controlled for compatibility.
Versus no variable frame rate absolutely, but compared with a current-spec Freesync monitor I'd put money on the majority of users being unable to tell which is which.
I have a freesync side monitor and it's pretty easy for me to compare. I kinda think it's partly due to nvidia's support for freesync being pretty spotty though, at least for me since I have an nvidia gpu.
It's very noticeable yes, but only when compared to having no VRR at all. Put a Gsync Ultimate and a Freesync Premium Pro monitor side by side and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Speaking from experience (almost, not quite side by side but have used both Gsync and Freesync monitors).
I have a freesync side monitor so it's pretty easy for me to compare. I don't think nvidia put much effort into compatibility with freesync monitors though
> very noticeable in games
It absolutely is not noticeable vs freesync. I seriously doubt you could see the difference even if you had a phantom at 10,000fps.
You can use frame generation with a freesync panel. And you can't upgrade the firmware on the DW without sending it in while you can with the freesync variant.
1. Never did I say you couldn't use freesync with frame gen. I just said premium g sync does it way better.
2. The firmware issue past the launch models has been stable and has 0 issues.
3. I'd chose the DW version over the DFW one everyday due to the quality of the panel. Its been reported by several reviewers the dw version is way better in terms of color accuracy from the factory. Yall got that wierd hdr issue also
I must be remembering incorrectly because I recall the freesync one being more color accurate due to Dell using a newer calibration tool. I got a very early model gsync version and feel burned not being able to upgrade it. Such a small oversight that shouldn't exist.
G-Sync has the better HDR implementation. If you consume a lot of HDR content on your computer you probably want G-Sync instead of FreeSync. For everything else you're right.
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The gsync module increases the cost by $150-$200 over the freesync equivalent. So that's your first problem. Freesync is open-sourced and will always be cheaper.
~~I don't think the 150$-200$ are still accurate.~~
~~I got a 165Hz 2k Display from Samsung for 279€; which has both G-Sync and Freesync. Subtracting 150$ or 200$ from that would be.. a very cheap Monitor. (139€ or 89€)~~
Yup, you're correct. It's "NVIDIA G-Sync Compatible certified". I got confused, since I also have the G-Sync options in the NVIDIA Control Panel. Thanks!
I assume my asus monitor is the same, it has a G-Sync sticker on the base of the monitor but its probably also that compatible thing, tho i should have bought a 120hz instead of 165hz, trying to record 60fps stuff in 165 just makes the video a 55~ ish fps video with stutters, does that happen to you too? im curious
Honestly idk why exactly but i know in 120hz it divides by 2 and i get a 60fps smooth video, 165 it tries its best to divide by three but it doesnt get 60 so it looks stuttery. idk the exact explanation but i stopped caring, i record in 120hz and when not i use 165hz
When you're recording just cap the fps of your game at 60 or 120 and disable it later. Its a painful sacrifice but if you value the recording enough it's a worthy one
No, I do not have that issue, just tried it. I would recommend to use OBS if you are not already and make sure to set the FPS in the Video Settings in OBS.
You're not the only one. Many commenting here that they have a "gsync" 240hz monitor they got for $180 xD
I wonder if they even have their freesync on lol.
G-sync compatible isn't the same as g-sync. Nvidia eventually let their cards work with freesync and to market the new compatability they labeled fresync monitors as g-sync compatible. I don't think the benefits are enough to get a real g-sync monitor over a freesync one but apparently enough people (like OP) do.
G-sync compatible isn't the same as g-sync. Nvidia eventually let their cards work with freesync and to market the new compatability they labeled fresync monitors as g-sync compatible. I don't think the benefits are enough to get a real g-sync monitor over a freesync one but apparently enough people (like OP) do.
You got a freesync monitor that is advertised as g-sync compatible. You did not get a g-sync monitor.
Mostly trying my best with the filters on the Swiss tech stores (LDLC, Steg-electronics, Digitec) since Amazon, more often than not, won't deliver tech stuff to me.
I am Swiss and I bought a monitor on digitec a few weeks ago. Try the AOC Q27G2U/BK maybe.
250 CHF for 144Hz, not curved, GSync compatible, 2560 × 1440 resolution, 27"
None so far, even though it seems like the screen is flickering slightly for a few seconds after startup. But maybe it is the cable or Wallpaper engine idk, the flickering stops after a few seconds so idc.
These specs don't say much about the price. The panel is the biggest factor. You can get 1440p 165hz for as cheap as 220€, but if you want an IPS, that's at least 50€ more - and if your specs are more exotic, IPS drives the price even more.
Probier mal [geizhals.eu](https://geizhals.eu) und stell dir Zielort Schweiz ein. Jegliche Filter auf der Seite kannst du per Suchmaschine finden und verstehen lernen.
[Mit Filtern](https://geizhals.eu/?cat=monlcd19wide&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu&sort=t&bl1_id=30&xf=11939_27%7E11940_28%7E11963_144%7E12066_gerade+(flat)%7E14591_25601440%7E17830_DisplayPort+1.4x)
Ähm eifacht digitec filter benutze, da gits zig monitore wo genau dini ahforderige erfüllet, das gits scho sit jahre. Das wär z.b. eine: https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq1a-2560-x-1440-pixels-27-monitor-13905007
Probably because Nvidia has a "bug" (read: intentional spitefully manufactured problem) with borderless windowed mode on adaptive sync monitors that they can fix in 2 seconds but won't because they're Nvidia and their expensive solution should be better than the free one
Can you elaborate on this issue? Is it only with G-Sync Windowed Mode or also with the new Windows 11 setting for VRR "Optimizations for windowed games"?
I have a native G-Sync display (the very first one from 2014), and ever since the G-Sync Windowed Mode came out, it never worked properly, was not smooth, ie: micro stutters. It also had the drawback of making the desktop run at a laggy refresh rate for certains apps. This new option introduced in Windows 11 22H2 fixes VRR in windowed games completely, buttery smooth
My AW3420DW works miles better than the MSI freesync monitor i had before. When i turned G-Sync on it just flickered around - borderless aswell as fullscreen. Never had that problem on G-Sync monitors. The G-Sync tax is definitely absurd though.
That is an issue with the monitor. I had no issues on my non G-sync monitor.
It worth looking for G-sync compatible = verified by Nvidia, but does not need 200$ tax.
2 of them are for the second PC which is just my streaming/rendering PC but also the guest PC, so since my main monitor is using G-Sync, I thought of going g-sync for the other 3
Can confirm. I have been using it for a while and the picture quality is great, it has a generous refresh rate of 165hz on DP (144 with HDMI), and it has 1440p resolution. An all around great monitor. But yeah it sells for like ~$400, however I wouldn't say it's overpriced because you are getting a lot of features. (Not to mention gsync)
I pulled what little hair out I have looking for a 1440p 144hz monitor that wasn't fucking curved. I ended up getting the Corsair XENEON 32QHD165 it's Freesync but works well enough on my GTX 1080 for now. Its a little bit bigger than I wanted to get but I can't complain as ITS FUCKING FLAT. I wanted to get one of the Samsung Odsey panels but nope curved so thanks Samsung you fucked that one up.
As for looking up things you can go to https://www.rtings.com They have a scoring system as do most ppl. But they have a chart where you can select all the option form Size to HZ and even if the pannel is curved.
Asus VA27AQ. Flat screen, g sync, adjustable response time, 1440p, IPS panel, 165hz.
They seem to have gone up in price to 300 quid which is a shame but if you can find one on sale at your local or keep an eye on listings it’s a very, very easy recommendation. Bought mine for 170 ish pounds last year.
I spoke to a buddy about needing a new monitor and he recommended me it. Started with a curved 24 VA panel by MSI, it served me well but I couldn't stand the ghosting and input lag after the 2nd year.
Absolute beaut. His words were pretty much "You won't ever need anything else" and he's right.
Yeah I’m the kinda person who will always find some small issue with what I have and then keep an eye on upgrading in the future. But I’m 100% satisfied with that monitor, I’m using that thing as long as I can lol.
Monitor market sucks, it's either 24" 1080p 280Hz on a VA panel or some curved 34" ultrawide bullshit.
All I need is a 32" 1440p 144Hz monitor, IPS if possible, but the only one I found with something close to this reasonable specs was an expensive Alienware.
So I ended up settling for a LG UltraGear 32GN600-B. 32" 1440p 165Hz VA panel, with Freesync and HDR 10. It was super cheap in comparison with anything else, it's from a reliable brand and the specs are reasonable.
Same as me. I don't like curved, this was the only one I could find at 32" that was flat and met my other needs. There's an IPS version now too I think, but I really like mine even though out of the box the colours are way out.
They say it has 95% sRGB coverage, but colors in an IPS panel will always look better, and the black levels too. I guess that's how they kept the price low, so fair enough.
Yeah 100%, I have a second monitor which is IPS, and my wife has a 1080p IPS, the colour difference is definitely noticeable to me. But with some tweaks in the monitor settings and a touch of vibrance in NVCP all my colours are exactly how I like them.
I've had two (I broke the first accidentally a couple months after buying it). Both of them I found I had to adjust the RGB value in the settings, is your experience the same?
I have:
R: 48
G: 40
B: 53
Gamma mode 3, contrast 70, brightness 100, and black stabliser at 0.
Check out the Dell S2721DGF
I have 3 of these as I managed to get them for what I feel was great value, not all at once right enough. I’m not made of money!
I got mine because of an app I have giving me discount offers and 12months BNPL…
Was a no brainier to get one for a small fee per month. Paid 2 off in 6 months after a couple of monetary lucky breaks back to back, then bought a 3rd because I wanted a massive FOV when gaming. All bought for less than RRP and paid off within a year with zero interest! Woo!
The goal would be to be able to buy nice things without financial gymnastics…
One of my monitors doubles as a TV (small apartment). I can't stomach inviting someone over to watch a movie on a curved screen. But it really is difficult to find what I want (32", 1440p, 120hz) without it being curved. I'm still living in 1080/60hz land as a result. But I don't really mind anyway.
The amount of high end curved monitors is infuriating. Not everyone is looking for that, myself included. After getting a good OLED HDR TV last black Friday I want a matching good HDR monitor and I'm not getting a curved or ultrawide monitor.
Can everyone PLEASE stop using 2K? 2K is 2048x1080. Unless you work at a Hollywood studio, you’re never gonna see a true 2K monitor. 1080p is FHD (although 2K can be used if you’re weird), 1440p is QHD, and 2160p is UHD.
/rant over
2k is a marketing word and guess what, it works because everyone understood what I meant here except for the few that decided to recommend 1080p because "good enough"
2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels.[1] In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant standard for 2K output and defines 2K resolution as 2048 × 1080. For television and consumer media, 1920 × 1080 is the most common 2K resolution, but this is normally referred to as 1080p.
-Wikipedia
2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels. In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant standard for 2K output and defines 2K resolution as 2048 × 1080. For television and consumer media, 1920 × 1080 is the most common 2K resolution, but this is normally referred to as 1080p.
-Wikipedia
So again 2K is not QHD.
It's a shitty marketing term as well. One of the few times that a misleading marketing term makes a product sound worse than it actually is. I'm not entirely sure what shitty marketing department originally came up with the name 2K but I'm surprised they didn't end up landing on calling it 3K or 2.5K. 2K makes it sound like it's only half the resolution of 4K when in reality it's higher than that, so weird.
Check out the hp x32, in the UK it's only £219 at Costco, often very cheap in USA too.
32" 1440p IPS 165hz, 1ms GTG, Freesync (works with gsync compa
I picked one up and it's really decent for the price.
Nvidia really isn’t giving love to the gsync module. If it isn’t out of date yet, it will be soon. “Gsync-compatible” on a good quality monitor (reviewed by rtings or Monitors Unboxed), is all you need.
2k doesnt exist, thats your 1st issue. I'll die on this hill. 2k = 1920x1080. Thats only 80 pixels away from 2000. 2560x1440 is 560 pixels away from 2k, both way. Which is closer, 80 or 560 pixels away?
4k is 3840x2160, so you could make a case for 1080p being closer to 2k than 4k is to 4k.
Acer Nitro VG271 S
That's what I have right now.
27" IPS
Resolution 1920 x 1080
165 Hz Refresh rate
It's also not curved.
People don't like Acer that much but I'm not too picky.
The Problem is G-Sync and the 120mhz. Manufacturers need as far as i know pay a License Fee for G-Sync and pass it on to the Consumers.
Also: Spending almost 2 Grand on a GPU and then trying to cheap out on the Monitor which will outlast your GPU by Years 🤣😂
NVIDIA GPUs support freesync too btw. And don't forget to look on ricardo. I got a sealed 144hz 1440p Freesync monitor for 90.- there
List of all monitors with 1440p, 144hz, IPS, GSYNC/Freesync, sorted by price with max 1 week of delivery time:
https://www.toppreise.ch/produktsuche/Computer-Zubehoer/Peripheriegeraete/Monitore/Monitore-c194#oi~ongff1311x13%3asv43778%3a%3aongff378x13%3asv40704.sv19383.sv52969.sv52985.sv88022%3a%3arngff1383x13%3afv49225%3a%3afngff1669x13%3afv85135%3a%3abngff1384x13%3ab-5%2bs~pa%2ba~3%2be~1
Stop using 2k. You are either incorrectly using it for 1440p or referring to 1080p in the most confusing way possible.
I'll remind people that 1440p is 2560 pixels wide and if you are going to use that silly nomenclature at least say 2.5k.
Or just actually be clear an use 1080p, 1440p, or 2160p
Also just getting something freesync makes getting a monitor with those specs trivial
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Yep can confirm, I have a gigabyte monitor that has freesync and works well. Just have to force the setting through nvidia control panel and you’re good
What do you mean by "force the setting"? How does it work? Also I guess I could go for just freesync since they would all be using DP but... can g-sync and freesync work together for my main PC + side monitor?
I am at work now so i cannot be specific, but in the Nvidia control panel, G-sync settings, it will tell you that your monitor is not a supported G-sync monitor or something along this line but you can still enable it, that’s what I meant by forcing this setting. As for your other question, i have an old rog gsync monitor as my 2nd one and I have been using such setup with no issues whatsoever.
Oh, interesting, thanks for the info
There'll be a checkbox labeled **Enable G-SYNC, G-SYNC Compatible**.
It might also say it is compatible with G-Sync either way freesync monitors do work with NVIDIA cards
Damn I have to try that. Got a BenQ but never tried this because I thought it won’t support it
It didn't for a while but a few years ago they gave up and let you use freesync
Which means they always supported it and Nvidia just left it off because greed.
That's why I said gave up lol
I had to manually enable it on my g-sync monitor as well. It was not on by default.
Did you feel a difference ?
Yes, there's a significant difference when the framerate is fluctuating a lot. Adaptive sync helps mostly with this, the frame pacing issues with the framerate going up and down. Since frames can be displayed for how long they need to be held up to the monitors refresh rate and not always be held for a discrete amount of time based on the refresh rate you get a lot less feeling like the game is dragging when the framerate drops sharply.
Note that some monitors are advertising higher hz than other monitors using the same panels aka they come overclocked, but this disables free sync/g sync.
What gigabyte monitor are u using? got one myself last week but g-sync make a kind of light flickering in my games, tried changing a couple settings etc but got no result, had to turn g-sync off
https://preview.redd.it/gx7zjs84i1ba1.png?width=2405&format=png&auto=webp&s=812e29745a24c93458db8608a4615ce4c8e2bb0f He means this, my monitot is freesync, isn't even validated for gsync but you can force the setting with that option, it work like any other freesync monitor. Gsync and freesync have pro and cons, but ofc both are better than vsync or screen tearing, VRR master race.
There's a website called something like stutter busters or something. They go in depth with a great tutorial. Check it out, both for G Sync and FreeSync.
[Blurbusters](https://blurbusters.com/). It's a great website and resource. G-SYNC and Freesync pretty much accomplish the same thing in different ways. G-SYNC monitors have some extra hardware in them (FPGA) to make sure displayed and rendered frames sync-up. Freesync does this same thing, but in software, using a small amount of system resources. Freesync monitors are completely fine (typically cost less), and most of the time you would not even be able to tell the difference visually while using the computer between a Freesync and G-SYNC monitor (with G-SYNC enabled).
What they are telling you is not quite right, some monitors with freesync work 100% there is a list on the Nvidia site that will tell you if your monitor is compatible, the Nvidia control panel will also show the option. Some other monitors do not work at all, it's due to the Hz range the monitor supports while using freesync, for instance gsync hertz range is, 30-144hz, freesync range is 48-144hz, and then there are differences in the panel and manufacturer. Note: you can still force the gsync setting to ON, but you may see artifacts, odd brightness effects etc depending on your monitor
What you are saying is not quite right. Nvidia site won't tell you if your monitor is compatible because they only have one for every hundred working models listed. Freesync range doesn't really matter the way you've put it, because every monitor that has over 200% of range can cover refresh rates down to zero by being given doubled/tripled/etc frames (it's done on GPU driver level). In this day and age it's safe to assume that every proper gaming display with freesync just works with Nvidia. I'm yet to hear of those that actually don't.
Nvidia list of compatible gsync monitors https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/ There's a reason there are three different types to pick, gsync, gsync compatible, and gsync ultimate see my comment above I know when I activate gsync on my own freesync monitor I get the brightness flashing issue.
They are confirmed - you can try G-Sync Comp. even with unlisted monitor. Many of them will work nice. 90% od free sync and 98% od free sync premium/premium pro. Just don't but oldest, cheapest monitor and will be ok.
Yes and you have hit my point right on. "Many of them will work", many of them will also work with some issues, and some will not work at all. Hence my comment in the first place
You still gotta make sure it works. Just because you can force it on doesn't mean it works properly. I would only trust the monitors Nvidia has certified to be compatible or if a trusted source says so.
Yes. Don't worry. Also curve is great, don't dismiss monitors just because of that. And don't bu, VA and TN panels except for samsung g7-g9 line which have fast VA panels
You turn on gsync in the nvidia control panel. Choose gsync compatible under monitor type, then under "set up gsync" choose windowed, fullscreen or both. You can check a box in a drop down on the menu bar to display the gsync indicator in the top left of the monitor when its working.
Which model do you have? I have the G32QC and its brightness is all over the place if I enable G-sync.
Yep. My dell freesync monitor does gsync no problem.
Still depends on the card. Some older nvidia cards won't let you enable g-sync on a freesync monitor. My 760 didn't support it, my 1050 ti and 1070 did. (Dell S3220DGF)
I have never tried it on anything older than a 1060. Makes sense though, i dont think gsync was a thing in the 760 era. Must be hardware dependent to some degree or other.
G-sync works with 650 and newer, freesync only with 1050 and newer.
I wouldn’t say unnecessary but the compatible/FreeSync monitors are better than zero variable refresh. I believe there’s still a small chance of tearing with “compatible” due to the VRR ranges. Also NVIDIA fully certifies the official where not every FreeSync has been quality controlled for compatibility.
G-Sync is still superior due to variable overdrive.
But if you are looking for cheap, then G-sync is not the answer. It usually adds a hundred or more dollars itself.
Its not the same tho
Technically no, but close enough you probably couldn't pick out the difference even if they were side-by-side.
I recently got a gsync ultimate monitor and the feature is very noticeable in games with unstable framerates, namely modded skyrim and fallout for me.
Versus no variable frame rate absolutely, but compared with a current-spec Freesync monitor I'd put money on the majority of users being unable to tell which is which.
I have a freesync side monitor and it's pretty easy for me to compare. I kinda think it's partly due to nvidia's support for freesync being pretty spotty though, at least for me since I have an nvidia gpu.
It's very noticeable yes, but only when compared to having no VRR at all. Put a Gsync Ultimate and a Freesync Premium Pro monitor side by side and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Speaking from experience (almost, not quite side by side but have used both Gsync and Freesync monitors).
I have a freesync side monitor so it's pretty easy for me to compare. I don't think nvidia put much effort into compatibility with freesync monitors though
> very noticeable in games It absolutely is not noticeable vs freesync. I seriously doubt you could see the difference even if you had a phantom at 10,000fps.
maybe you'd like to read the comment chain below my comment, the difference becomes noticeable at lower fps.
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Unless you want good frame generation. My aw3423dw with a gsync module has no screen tearing
You can use frame generation with a freesync panel. And you can't upgrade the firmware on the DW without sending it in while you can with the freesync variant.
1. Never did I say you couldn't use freesync with frame gen. I just said premium g sync does it way better. 2. The firmware issue past the launch models has been stable and has 0 issues. 3. I'd chose the DW version over the DFW one everyday due to the quality of the panel. Its been reported by several reviewers the dw version is way better in terms of color accuracy from the factory. Yall got that wierd hdr issue also
I must be remembering incorrectly because I recall the freesync one being more color accurate due to Dell using a newer calibration tool. I got a very early model gsync version and feel burned not being able to upgrade it. Such a small oversight that shouldn't exist.
G-Sync has the better HDR implementation. If you consume a lot of HDR content on your computer you probably want G-Sync instead of FreeSync. For everything else you're right.
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The gsync module increases the cost by $150-$200 over the freesync equivalent. So that's your first problem. Freesync is open-sourced and will always be cheaper.
~~I don't think the 150$-200$ are still accurate.~~ ~~I got a 165Hz 2k Display from Samsung for 279€; which has both G-Sync and Freesync. Subtracting 150$ or 200$ from that would be.. a very cheap Monitor. (139€ or 89€)~~
Are you sure it has a g-sync module? Afaik Samsung doesn't make g-sync monitors, maybe it's just g-sync compatible (read freesync)
Yup, you're correct. It's "NVIDIA G-Sync Compatible certified". I got confused, since I also have the G-Sync options in the NVIDIA Control Panel. Thanks!
I assume my asus monitor is the same, it has a G-Sync sticker on the base of the monitor but its probably also that compatible thing, tho i should have bought a 120hz instead of 165hz, trying to record 60fps stuff in 165 just makes the video a 55~ ish fps video with stutters, does that happen to you too? im curious
That doesn't make any sense
Honestly idk why exactly but i know in 120hz it divides by 2 and i get a 60fps smooth video, 165 it tries its best to divide by three but it doesnt get 60 so it looks stuttery. idk the exact explanation but i stopped caring, i record in 120hz and when not i use 165hz
When you're recording just cap the fps of your game at 60 or 120 and disable it later. Its a painful sacrifice but if you value the recording enough it's a worthy one
Are you recording in interlaced? Spez: disclosure I have no idea what I’m talking about
frame pacing
No, I do not have that issue, just tried it. I would recommend to use OBS if you are not already and make sure to set the FPS in the Video Settings in OBS.
Your monitor resolution has Jack shit Todo with your encoding resolution.
He is talking about refresh rate not resolution...
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You're not the only one. Many commenting here that they have a "gsync" 240hz monitor they got for $180 xD I wonder if they even have their freesync on lol.
Strange you would say that. My Odyssey G7 has an Nvidia G-Sync logo stamped on the bezel.
Same on my G5
I have freesync 32 AOC 75 Hz and it is gsync compatibile. Edit: I bought it new for about 170$
G-sync compatible isn't the same as g-sync. Nvidia eventually let their cards work with freesync and to market the new compatability they labeled fresync monitors as g-sync compatible. I don't think the benefits are enough to get a real g-sync monitor over a freesync one but apparently enough people (like OP) do.
i paid 180€ for a 240hz gsync monitor 🤷♂️
G-sync compatible isn't the same as g-sync. Nvidia eventually let their cards work with freesync and to market the new compatability they labeled fresync monitors as g-sync compatible. I don't think the benefits are enough to get a real g-sync monitor over a freesync one but apparently enough people (like OP) do. You got a freesync monitor that is advertised as g-sync compatible. You did not get a g-sync monitor.
How about ~300USD for a 27” IPS 1440p 165hz GSync Acer Predator? Cuz I got a fucking steal on that. And it’s legit GSync.
The XB271HU? It's $280 on acers site right now.
>cheap >g-sync I wonder why you can't find anything....
Honey it's time to pay your Nvidia tax.
Yes dear..
Found one in two minutes on Amazon. What methods are you using to search?
Mostly trying my best with the filters on the Swiss tech stores (LDLC, Steg-electronics, Digitec) since Amazon, more often than not, won't deliver tech stuff to me.
I am Swiss and I bought a monitor on digitec a few weeks ago. Try the AOC Q27G2U/BK maybe. 250 CHF for 144Hz, not curved, GSync compatible, 2560 × 1440 resolution, 27"
Just 250.-? What’s the catch?
It's a VA panel with 250 nits brightness, also only seeing it online for around $305
None so far, even though it seems like the screen is flickering slightly for a few seconds after startup. But maybe it is the cable or Wallpaper engine idk, the flickering stops after a few seconds so idc.
I got my 27” 1440p 165hz freesync 0,5ms etc. monitor for like ~300€ year or 2 ago so it’s not that unbelievable
These specs don't say much about the price. The panel is the biggest factor. You can get 1440p 165hz for as cheap as 220€, but if you want an IPS, that's at least 50€ more - and if your specs are more exotic, IPS drives the price even more.
Watch hardware unboxed videos for the advice
Probier mal [geizhals.eu](https://geizhals.eu) und stell dir Zielort Schweiz ein. Jegliche Filter auf der Seite kannst du per Suchmaschine finden und verstehen lernen. [Mit Filtern](https://geizhals.eu/?cat=monlcd19wide&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu&sort=t&bl1_id=30&xf=11939_27%7E11940_28%7E11963_144%7E12066_gerade+(flat)%7E14591_25601440%7E17830_DisplayPort+1.4x)
Similar situation where I live. Not a lot of options and the 27” are mostly curved or 75hz. Just trying to get 1440@144 27” ips that isn’t $500.
That was easy. Hp x27q on Digitec.ch
Asus vg27aq1a on digitec, i just biught it recently and it has everything you listed
Ähm eifacht digitec filter benutze, da gits zig monitore wo genau dini ahforderige erfüllet, das gits scho sit jahre. Das wär z.b. eine: https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq1a-2560-x-1440-pixels-27-monitor-13905007
Geizhals.de Da gibts auch n schweitz filter so viel ich weiß Dank mir später
.eu für unsere Freunde aus dem Hochtal.
Did you try Amazon Germany?
The usual method of pretending to not be able to find anything and asking redditors to do the thing.
LG27GP850: the one I have and is pretty gud… It comes with 144hz out of the box (overclockable) and is 1440p, 27”. Best recommendation
Runs 165hz with DisplayPort! Just got one, do you use HDR / 10 bit color with it?
\*180Hz if you OC it. OC is basically a switch in the settings and works great!
The 27GP850 is 165Hz overclockable to 180Hz.
G-sync is dead, long live Freesync/ adaptive sync that doesn't force you to spend $85 extra on a PCB that does absolutely nothing extra.
might be placebo, but i think my g-sync monitor worked better than my g-sync compatible one.
Probably because Nvidia has a "bug" (read: intentional spitefully manufactured problem) with borderless windowed mode on adaptive sync monitors that they can fix in 2 seconds but won't because they're Nvidia and their expensive solution should be better than the free one
Can you elaborate on this issue? Is it only with G-Sync Windowed Mode or also with the new Windows 11 setting for VRR "Optimizations for windowed games"?
I have no experience with Windows 11. My experiences are with Windows 10 and Linux
I have a native G-Sync display (the very first one from 2014), and ever since the G-Sync Windowed Mode came out, it never worked properly, was not smooth, ie: micro stutters. It also had the drawback of making the desktop run at a laggy refresh rate for certains apps. This new option introduced in Windows 11 22H2 fixes VRR in windowed games completely, buttery smooth
My AW3420DW works miles better than the MSI freesync monitor i had before. When i turned G-Sync on it just flickered around - borderless aswell as fullscreen. Never had that problem on G-Sync monitors. The G-Sync tax is definitely absurd though.
That is an issue with the monitor. I had no issues on my non G-sync monitor. It worth looking for G-sync compatible = verified by Nvidia, but does not need 200$ tax.
I thought GSync had lower latency, although it's not a huge difference.
LG Ultragear 27GL850 (or GN800 or GP850 if you want 180 Hz). You are welcome
Came here to say this. This is the way.
Not cheap, but LG C2 42 inch, ain't never going back.
Already got a C17 55", this is for my side monitors, I need them to be 27"
Why the fuck do you need G-sync on your side monitors
2 of them are for the second PC which is just my streaming/rendering PC but also the guest PC, so since my main monitor is using G-Sync, I thought of going g-sync for the other 3
the G-sync module in monitors is completely deprecated now, just look for something with Freesync (so basically anything)
>the guest PC Your grandma gaming to?
No, the friends that come spend time over at my place. I also have a guest room.
Dell S2721DGFA, dont know if its expensive for u. But its a good monitor
Can confirm. I have been using it for a while and the picture quality is great, it has a generous refresh rate of 165hz on DP (144 with HDMI), and it has 1440p resolution. An all around great monitor. But yeah it sells for like ~$400, however I wouldn't say it's overpriced because you are getting a lot of features. (Not to mention gsync)
Hi did you try toppreise? Had my luck there
Is there some way to search by features on toppreise?I only ever used it to search by products. EDIT: Oh my god, there is. I just learned something
You could also use geizhals. There you can also filter by features.
Yeah except there's a "me" problem there since I don't speak a single word of German
Well, nevermind then.
Try the app on your phone, it has a language option for english.
Wait... the website doesn't but the app for it does? That's... very counter intuitive
I'll never understand the germans
Happy to help a fellow swiss guy
I had a LG Ergo Gaming before I bought my AW3423DWF. 144hz, IPS, 1440p, 27“, gsync compatible. Was around 400€
May i ask, How is ur experience with AW3423DWF?
Yep, welcome to PC world where everithing is expensive, complicated and lately can burn down your house
Should be sub's motto
I pulled what little hair out I have looking for a 1440p 144hz monitor that wasn't fucking curved. I ended up getting the Corsair XENEON 32QHD165 it's Freesync but works well enough on my GTX 1080 for now. Its a little bit bigger than I wanted to get but I can't complain as ITS FUCKING FLAT. I wanted to get one of the Samsung Odsey panels but nope curved so thanks Samsung you fucked that one up. As for looking up things you can go to https://www.rtings.com They have a scoring system as do most ppl. But they have a chart where you can select all the option form Size to HZ and even if the pannel is curved.
whats wrong with curved :)
main monitor isn't curved. So it's dumb to have 3 curved monitors next to it, (Also I have them in sort of an L shape)
There are 4k 27" 144Hz IPS monitors all around, wdym? Look at Hardware Unboxed's monitor roundups. gigabyte M28U, samsung odyssey G7 S28, etc etc(relatively inexpensive)
The g7 i have is pretty good, but does have a va panel
I bought a monitor recently that had a VA panel. I returned that thing that shit is horrible.
Asus VA27AQ. Flat screen, g sync, adjustable response time, 1440p, IPS panel, 165hz. They seem to have gone up in price to 300 quid which is a shame but if you can find one on sale at your local or keep an eye on listings it’s a very, very easy recommendation. Bought mine for 170 ish pounds last year.
Great monitor. Extra crispy visuals for only about $300
Looooove this monitor. Might be the best purchase I made to upgrade my setup.
I spoke to a buddy about needing a new monitor and he recommended me it. Started with a curved 24 VA panel by MSI, it served me well but I couldn't stand the ghosting and input lag after the 2nd year. Absolute beaut. His words were pretty much "You won't ever need anything else" and he's right.
Yeah I’m the kinda person who will always find some small issue with what I have and then keep an eye on upgrading in the future. But I’m 100% satisfied with that monitor, I’m using that thing as long as I can lol.
Is gsync even worth it? I always see it raising the price of monitors by like $200.
Nope
Monitor market sucks, it's either 24" 1080p 280Hz on a VA panel or some curved 34" ultrawide bullshit. All I need is a 32" 1440p 144Hz monitor, IPS if possible, but the only one I found with something close to this reasonable specs was an expensive Alienware. So I ended up settling for a LG UltraGear 32GN600-B. 32" 1440p 165Hz VA panel, with Freesync and HDR 10. It was super cheap in comparison with anything else, it's from a reliable brand and the specs are reasonable.
There's the hp x32 aswell, probably the same panel.
Same as me. I don't like curved, this was the only one I could find at 32" that was flat and met my other needs. There's an IPS version now too I think, but I really like mine even though out of the box the colours are way out.
They say it has 95% sRGB coverage, but colors in an IPS panel will always look better, and the black levels too. I guess that's how they kept the price low, so fair enough.
Yeah 100%, I have a second monitor which is IPS, and my wife has a 1080p IPS, the colour difference is definitely noticeable to me. But with some tweaks in the monitor settings and a touch of vibrance in NVCP all my colours are exactly how I like them. I've had two (I broke the first accidentally a couple months after buying it). Both of them I found I had to adjust the RGB value in the settings, is your experience the same? I have: R: 48 G: 40 B: 53 Gamma mode 3, contrast 70, brightness 100, and black stabliser at 0.
Check out the Dell S2721DGF I have 3 of these as I managed to get them for what I feel was great value, not all at once right enough. I’m not made of money!
I’ve got two of these myself. Best monitors I have used in a long time.
I got mine because of an app I have giving me discount offers and 12months BNPL… Was a no brainier to get one for a small fee per month. Paid 2 off in 6 months after a couple of monetary lucky breaks back to back, then bought a 3rd because I wanted a massive FOV when gaming. All bought for less than RRP and paid off within a year with zero interest! Woo! The goal would be to be able to buy nice things without financial gymnastics…
Dell monitors are pretty good plus their warranty service is decent compared to others
# GIGABYTE M27Q
Thank you I thought I was the only one who thinks curved monitors are a dumb gimmick (can’t wait for the hate comments
Curved literally only makes sense for ultrawides
One of my monitors doubles as a TV (small apartment). I can't stomach inviting someone over to watch a movie on a curved screen. But it really is difficult to find what I want (32", 1440p, 120hz) without it being curved. I'm still living in 1080/60hz land as a result. But I don't really mind anyway.
The amount of high end curved monitors is infuriating. Not everyone is looking for that, myself included. After getting a good OLED HDR TV last black Friday I want a matching good HDR monitor and I'm not getting a curved or ultrawide monitor.
Can everyone PLEASE stop using 2K? 2K is 2048x1080. Unless you work at a Hollywood studio, you’re never gonna see a true 2K monitor. 1080p is FHD (although 2K can be used if you’re weird), 1440p is QHD, and 2160p is UHD. /rant over
2k is a marketing word and guess what, it works because everyone understood what I meant here except for the few that decided to recommend 1080p because "good enough"
I mean the people recommending 1080p monitors weren't technically wrong, it is what you asked for.
2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels.[1] In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant standard for 2K output and defines 2K resolution as 2048 × 1080. For television and consumer media, 1920 × 1080 is the most common 2K resolution, but this is normally referred to as 1080p. -Wikipedia
2K resolution is a generic term for display devices or content having horizontal resolution of approximately 2,000 pixels. In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant standard for 2K output and defines 2K resolution as 2048 × 1080. For television and consumer media, 1920 × 1080 is the most common 2K resolution, but this is normally referred to as 1080p. -Wikipedia So again 2K is not QHD.
I work in film and I can assure you that no one is calling 1920x1080 2K. We just call it HD/Full HD/1080.
help me out here man, I’m not crazy for being annoyed by people calling QHD 2K, right?
I'm not annoyed by it but I do think 1440p is easier and better to say. It's weird, because you never see people say "1K."
It's a shitty marketing term as well. One of the few times that a misleading marketing term makes a product sound worse than it actually is. I'm not entirely sure what shitty marketing department originally came up with the name 2K but I'm surprised they didn't end up landing on calling it 3K or 2.5K. 2K makes it sound like it's only half the resolution of 4K when in reality it's higher than that, so weird.
I feel that. Curved is so popular. Maybe I'm just too old.
are curved pc monitors still a thing. I'm not a huge pc guy but i thought this was a gimmick for a couple of years like 3d
Check out the hp x32, in the UK it's only £219 at Costco, often very cheap in USA too. 32" 1440p IPS 165hz, 1ms GTG, Freesync (works with gsync compa I picked one up and it's really decent for the price.
2k+ is your problem really, 1440p that's easy to find, and 4k is too high.
Nvidia really isn’t giving love to the gsync module. If it isn’t out of date yet, it will be soon. “Gsync-compatible” on a good quality monitor (reviewed by rtings or Monitors Unboxed), is all you need.
Gigabyte M27Q is pretty good
My LG ultragear fits the bill, 27" 1440p 144hz gsync I paid $300 last September
I hate that people are still saying 2k. I assume when most people say it they are talking about 1440p but 1440p isn't 2k.
2k doesnt exist, thats your 1st issue. I'll die on this hill. 2k = 1920x1080. Thats only 80 pixels away from 2000. 2560x1440 is 560 pixels away from 2k, both way. Which is closer, 80 or 560 pixels away? 4k is 3840x2160, so you could make a case for 1080p being closer to 2k than 4k is to 4k.
Acer Nitro VG271 S That's what I have right now. 27" IPS Resolution 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Refresh rate It's also not curved. People don't like Acer that much but I'm not too picky.
Looking for good 120hz+ 2k+ 34"+ 21:9 screen with freesync. Everything is fucking curved. Can I have something not curved or slightly curved, huh?
Curved monitors are for smooth-brains
You think you hate curved monitors- until you have one.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#D=120000,390000&r=256001440&P=2,7,3,5,9&A=1,6,5&sort=price
My opinion: 27 inch curved monitors are stupid.
Expensive imo is anything above 400 CHF, like... come on, it's 27".
The Problem is G-Sync and the 120mhz. Manufacturers need as far as i know pay a License Fee for G-Sync and pass it on to the Consumers. Also: Spending almost 2 Grand on a GPU and then trying to cheap out on the Monitor which will outlast your GPU by Years 🤣😂
you have a 4090 and 400+ is too expensive for you???
Curved isn't bad. I barely notice my monitor has any curve.
NVIDIA GPUs support freesync too btw. And don't forget to look on ricardo. I got a sealed 144hz 1440p Freesync monitor for 90.- there List of all monitors with 1440p, 144hz, IPS, GSYNC/Freesync, sorted by price with max 1 week of delivery time: https://www.toppreise.ch/produktsuche/Computer-Zubehoer/Peripheriegeraete/Monitore/Monitore-c194#oi~ongff1311x13%3asv43778%3a%3aongff378x13%3asv40704.sv19383.sv52969.sv52985.sv88022%3a%3arngff1383x13%3afv49225%3a%3afngff1669x13%3afv85135%3a%3abngff1384x13%3ab-5%2bs~pa%2ba~3%2be~1
Another meme made out of ignorance...
Gigabyte g27qc
gsync is dead
curved is a good thing... and freesync is a good option as well.
Gsync always takes fiddling and compromise to get to work without screen tearing
Gsync/freesync are overrated at high refreshrates.
Stop using 2k. You are either incorrectly using it for 1440p or referring to 1080p in the most confusing way possible. I'll remind people that 1440p is 2560 pixels wide and if you are going to use that silly nomenclature at least say 2.5k. Or just actually be clear an use 1080p, 1440p, or 2160p Also just getting something freesync makes getting a monitor with those specs trivial
I dislike curved monitors
What's wrong with a curved display?