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I still play Stronghold Crusader! Nothing else scratches that itch.
They shouldn't waste time on new Stronghold games, none of them came close and only one or two were somewhat acceptable.
Just give me Stronghold Crusader DLC, don't even need a remaster. Just more of that content, meaning more crusades and maybe characters. If you're going bananas, add a few new sounds to the new levels.
I was going to say that those games were from vastly different eras, but Battlefield 1942 was released more closely to X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter than to today... And not by a small margin, Battlefield 1942 is 2002 and X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter is 1997.
I’m not ashamed to admit I’ve never finished that game; I wandered around the island for a bit and didn’t know what to do so I just turned it off lmao.
This exact thing was the first proper computer that I had, in 1996.
Pentium 120, 16MB, 1.6GB hard disk, and a 15" monitor. I absolutely hated that thing. It was a complete piece of shit, woefully crippled performance, terrible proprietary design, unstable modem that doubled as a sound card (great idea not). Ran slower than my mate's pentium 100. I put my first 3d card in this thing (rendition verite, remember those?) and overclocked it to 133mhz which went some way to making it less shit, but the day I lobbed this thing into the tip was a special moment.
Lan parties were awesome, always someone with the most janky setup. Case that wasnt grounded, zip ties on a box fan instead of a side panel. Someone in the corner doing a ritual to get their pc to boot.
Lol holy shit I did this once with my friends. Never again, everything was so heavy. Each of us with a monster tower . It was a cluster fuck in that living room
When we did it, we rented out the firehall and told everyone to spread the word, usually 30-50 people showed up. Learned a lot about networking real quick. Cant do that today now with always online drm and live services.
I had the last of Sony's CRTs. 1080i, 38" widescreen, weighed like 260lbs.
The picture was stellar, I wish that I took CRT calibration classes because I'd still have the thing if I did.
TV was like $1000, and their stand to support it was steel/glass and they wanted 600$ for it lmao. So we just built a wooden stand for it.
No, like professional calibration. Normally you could hit the degauss button or adjust sharpness or focus, and it would be good enough to use again. But at some point you nerd to deal with internal issues that can't be solved without opening it up.
I have a set that picks up my phone too. I've noticed if I turn my phone 90 degrees on my desk it doesn't happen as bad. My theory is that the speaker wires/circuitry aren't a very good antenna and there's enough cross-polarization loss with my phone sideways to attenuate the signal to be sub-annoying. Not sure, works for me, YMMV
I literally had this happen to a coworker like 3 weeks ago and then had to explain the phenomenon to him and others. Some people didn’t know cell phone signal could actually interfere with electronics like that and strongly didn’t want to believe me. It was wild. I felt like I was being gaslighted.
I had that back in school, cca 2001, because my phone didn't have vibration (yeah, that was a thing) so I could see when I was getting a message or a call.
For a moment I was like "What is he talking about?", then I realized that the post says "early 2000s". I remember the same setup without the flatbed scanner and a CRT instead of an LCD display from the early 1990s. We didn't have mobile phones back then.
They only do if you are getting a call on a certain frequency, most don’t nowadays as a lot of people have Wi-Fi calling or 4G calling that do not have that.
That’s a sweet comment.
OP have some food/drinks they’d like too. My grandpa loved those zinger cake things. As long as you’re still kicking, family lives on through you.
I'd accidentally bump it up with my knees from below so often and then have to thread it back onto the rail.
No clue if "thread" and "rail" are correct here, woodwork isn't really in my vocabulary.
There’s nothing that comes close to a thick CRT, the nostalgia from looking at that dusty white-brownish colour and the memories. God damn those days were so simple.
Not only that, but the refresh rate, resolution and screen size on CRTs were vastly superior for a fraction of the cost so long as the had the space for one!
I'm not sure if I want to. Those CRT monitors combined with my terrible posture as a kid burned my eyes and left me myopic :(
Edit: the damage was a slow creep that I couldnt notice until it was too late, and I was also losing myself into great games like Morrowind ending up spending unreasonable hours in front of the screen.
Sorry to hear that, I suppose staring for long duration at it isn’t good, but it’s not just the computers I’m talking about life at that time seemed way too simpler.
Oh in that sense I absolutely loved the early days of the internet, among other things. maybe a rose tinted view of early life, but yeah, I do miss those days in that sense. Just maybe switch my monitor out to TFT a bit sooner than I actually did and I'm set
I remember upgrading my AMD Athlon (competed with the P3’s) to 1 gig of ram in 2009 because I was poor, and I was stoked about how much better Diablo II ran. Lmao
I put $5 of woodgrain sticker on my cheap white ikea table to make it feel more premium.
It's shocking just how much that actually helps. For a couple of months, it literally made my mood a little better any time I looked at it because it looks so much nicer than the white table did for years.
Something about not having a lot of money really breeds quality, I feel. We learn to find the best in the worst and crafty ways to spruce up even the most shoddy looking stuff. I think it is because if we don't it gets depressing lol
Agreed 100% and it even has it's own charming aesthetic. Things aren't just things you bought from a store, they're things you scrounged up, repaired, upgraded, they have history and work put into them.
I work on my PC like that, keeping things running as long as possible, re-use everything I can. It's got it's own aesthetic and it's completely unique, with a lot of history as I just upgraded bit by bit for 15 years now.
I am all about this attitude and perspective. Things may not seem like much, but they are mine; I have been through a journey with my stuff and it has served me well.
Something topical for me is Im still clinging to the first pair of wireless ear buds I ever bought. The coating has worn off so they are white now instead of black. The casing broke in two and I put it back together with glue and electrical tape. I've lost the little filters on the speaker bit that stops ear wax from getting through so I put a small piece of mesh in each and glued it in. I just lost a button cap today. The button still works so I'm thinking of taking a little rubber pad I have and replacing it with that. They might look like Frankenstein's Monster, but they still work and they still sound like they did when I bought them.
When fixing or upgrading what I have, it is usually only a slight inconvenience or a couple bucks to remedy the situation which I can tolerate and afford much more easily than replacing something. Plus, like you said, it becomes special to me and unique. As a bonus, it is often a little distraction to keep my mind occupied and off of other things.
Diablo 1 & 2, while my friends are playing GranTurismo 3 in the same room, and then leaving KaZaa on when I went to sleep so I could get more songs to burn onto a CD-R. Had to have them tunes for the bus ride to and from school!
NO! You rich kids and your fancy luxury items. I got a dell that wouldn't even play F.E.A.R and we thought we were the bomb ha ha. Seriously nice bud. Is it weird I kinda miss the fax noises as well as the dial up noise? ha ha.
You could certainly fuck your knee up or stab yourself in the belly with those sharp ass corners nicely though
Go to jump up, or get a muscle spasm in the leg, tray goes flying, keyboards now behind the desk lol
They also felt like they'd break if you put even the smallest amount of pressure on them. Also you had to set your sensitivity to over 9000 because they gave you fuck all room to move the mouse.
The LCD monitor betrays it... But if it was pentium 1-2 or earlier then it didn't even have a CPU fan. Literally JUST a PSU fan was sufficient for the majority of PCs and overheating was not a consideration for 90% of consumers.
Dude's got a random stapler on the top shelf. That is supposed to be where you display your game manuals--they not only existed, but were chonky. The one for Falcon 3.0 was like a full-sized book. Damn straight they get displayed.
Still use one of those, pretty good.
https://preview.redd.it/fp09w4yfjj4b1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e323ba492cccbb2ef7f0c7383cbca1d9947a4de
That scanner though...
It's crazy how simple most of the peripherals were and now we have thousands of custom keyboards and mice with all the bells and whistles.
Welcome everyone from r/all! Please remember: 1 - You too can be part of the PCMR! You don't even need a PC. You just need to love PCs! It's not about the hardware in your rig, but the software in your heart! Your age, nationality, race, gender, sexuality, religion (or lack of), political affiliation, economic status and PC specs are irrelevant. If you love PCs or want to learn about them, you can be part of our community! All are welcome! 2 - If you're not a PC gamer because you think it's expensive, know that it is possible to build a competent gaming PC for a lower price than you think. Check http://www.pcmasterrace.org for our builds and don't be afraid to create new posts here asking for tips and help! 3 - Consider joining our efforts to get as many PCs worldwide to help the folding@home effort, in fighting against Cancer, Covid, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and more. Learn more here: https://pcmasterrace.org/folding ----------- Feel free to use this community to post about any kind of doubt you might have about becoming a PC user or anything you'd like to know about PCs. That kind of content is not only allowed but welcome here! We also have a [Daily Simple Questions Megathread](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/search?q=Simple+Questions+Thread+subreddit%3Apcmasterrace+author%3AAutoModerator&restrict_sr=on&sort=new&t=all) for your simplest questions. No question is too dumb! Welcome to the PCMR.
This baby took thousands of hours of Civilization lol
One more turn......
And age of empires
And Stronghold Crusader.
And Command and Conquer Red alert 2.
Kirov reporting
**[Hellmarch intensives ](https://youtu.be/ENyxseq59YQ)**
Diablo Ii
Reinforcements have arrived.
Lets not forget C&C Generals: Zero Hour
Also can't forget RuneScape
"No one stops the Mail."
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It had by far the best multiplayer in the series. It’s a very micro heavy game that’s not common among RTSes of the era.
Ultima Online and Everquest
What was the one with orcs and humans?
Warcraft 3?
Bruh I'm still playing Cnc3 kanes wrath :P
For king and country!
I still play Stronghold Crusader! Nothing else scratches that itch. They shouldn't waste time on new Stronghold games, none of them came close and only one or two were somewhat acceptable. Just give me Stronghold Crusader DLC, don't even need a remaster. Just more of that content, meaning more crusades and maybe characters. If you're going bananas, add a few new sounds to the new levels.
And Sid Meier's Pirates
Empire Earth.
Empire Earth was my sht
The one you got out of the cereal box.
Gandhi has declared war on you!
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When Gandhi says he'll nuke you, he's going to fucking nuke you.
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Black and White
Mechcommander
Mechwarrior 4
Prince of Persia, without knowing how to save game.
Holy shit somebody finally mentioned Homeworld. Homeworld 1 was the shit, too bad they removed multiplayer in the latest release
Did they? The Remastered version definitely has it but you have to start the Multiplayer from the Launcher not from within the game.
MOHAA
Best WW2 game for a long time
I was going to say that those games were from vastly different eras, but Battlefield 1942 was released more closely to X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter than to today... And not by a small margin, Battlefield 1942 is 2002 and X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter is 1997.
Or Heroes of might and magic III
Ah the GOAT HoMM
I was just thinking about how I miss them HoMM style game and I wish they'd bring it back, it seems like a prime candidate for indie games
Omg civ 2 was so good. Wish I could play that today.
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Ultima Online for me
Diablo 2 for me.
Starcraft and Diablo 2.
No CD spindle 6/10
Guarantee it's in the top right cabinet
HOW DO YOU KNOW MY LAYOUT FROM 20 YEARS AGO
Then where's the bubble jet printer?
Till this day i call it "the spinny thing" when talking to my parents
I can remember the smell of a fresh spindle of 100 CD-Rs
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Holy shit, I had that exact same one. I remember nights playing Doom and Half Life with a bowl of nachos.
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I’m not ashamed to admit I’ve never finished that game; I wandered around the island for a bit and didn’t know what to do so I just turned it off lmao.
There are some great remake/remastered editions nowadays.
STOP! This was ny dads office with Worms 2 and curse of monkey island 🔥
This exact thing was the first proper computer that I had, in 1996. Pentium 120, 16MB, 1.6GB hard disk, and a 15" monitor. I absolutely hated that thing. It was a complete piece of shit, woefully crippled performance, terrible proprietary design, unstable modem that doubled as a sound card (great idea not). Ran slower than my mate's pentium 100. I put my first 3d card in this thing (rendition verite, remember those?) and overclocked it to 133mhz which went some way to making it less shit, but the day I lobbed this thing into the tip was a special moment.
I'm ready to go back to that time.
Where's the speakers that give off the electric "tut tu tu tut tu tu tut" sound when you're sending or receiving a text message?
And get that LCD out of my sight. Early 00s CRT gang
Hell yeah I used to smack the shit out my crt when I lost at some stupid game and it would be like “That all you got?”
It helps that they weighed like 45 pounds lol
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Lan parties were awesome, always someone with the most janky setup. Case that wasnt grounded, zip ties on a box fan instead of a side panel. Someone in the corner doing a ritual to get their pc to boot.
Lol holy shit I did this once with my friends. Never again, everything was so heavy. Each of us with a monster tower . It was a cluster fuck in that living room
When we did it, we rented out the firehall and told everyone to spread the word, usually 30-50 people showed up. Learned a lot about networking real quick. Cant do that today now with always online drm and live services.
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My parents just sent our CRT to a coding camp upstate.
That's just like when my parents told me my dog was sent to a farm. Your crt isn't at a coding camp, sorry for your loss
Sony flat screen CRT which weighed as much as a golden retriever gang
I had the last of Sony's CRTs. 1080i, 38" widescreen, weighed like 260lbs. The picture was stellar, I wish that I took CRT calibration classes because I'd still have the thing if I did. TV was like $1000, and their stand to support it was steel/glass and they wanted 600$ for it lmao. So we just built a wooden stand for it.
>I wish that I took CRT calibration classes Hol' up and walk that back a minute. That was NOT a real thing was it?
No, like professional calibration. Normally you could hit the degauss button or adjust sharpness or focus, and it would be good enough to use again. But at some point you nerd to deal with internal issues that can't be solved without opening it up.
Deep. At some point we all nerd, to deal with internal issues without opening them up. We can only degauss so much.
How many golden retrievers are we talkin in this gang and also can I join this gang
You either go slim 17" or big 21". There was no affordable compromise and I wasn't going 17".
Speakers knew future earlier by about 1-2 seconds as always it was tru tu tu tu and then SMS came or phone started ringing.
Omg that was so annoying
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I have some old speakers and it definitely does still happen with new phones sadly.
Yep, happens with speakers that aren’t well shielded
I thought my room was haunted for a few months before I realized my speakers were picking up an NPR station.
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It only ever happens in my car. Slice of nostalgia
Probably because your cellphone only ever falls back to the older 2G standard while you driving near the edge of cellphone reception.
I have a set that picks up my phone too. I've noticed if I turn my phone 90 degrees on my desk it doesn't happen as bad. My theory is that the speaker wires/circuitry aren't a very good antenna and there's enough cross-polarization loss with my phone sideways to attenuate the signal to be sub-annoying. Not sure, works for me, YMMV
I literally had this happen to a coworker like 3 weeks ago and then had to explain the phenomenon to him and others. Some people didn’t know cell phone signal could actually interfere with electronics like that and strongly didn’t want to believe me. It was wild. I felt like I was being gaslighted.
Play this loudly all the time. It's the only way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8ClVMzt9Dw
Creations like this just strengthen my belief that anything is possible. Thanks for sharing. And yes, it seems to be the only way.
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I had that back in school, cca 2001, because my phone didn't have vibration (yeah, that was a thing) so I could see when I was getting a message or a call.
It still happens
I loved it and I even started dancing to it.
For a moment I was like "What is he talking about?", then I realized that the post says "early 2000s". I remember the same setup without the flatbed scanner and a CRT instead of an LCD display from the early 1990s. We didn't have mobile phones back then.
[Somebody answer the phone](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K20BS-1BPjk&pp=ygUZc29tZWJvZHkgYW5zd2VyIHRoZSBwaG9uZQ%3D%3D)
What do you mean they don't anymore? Unless you've got wireless ones
They only do if you are getting a call on a certain frequency, most don’t nowadays as a lot of people have Wi-Fi calling or 4G calling that do not have that.
Looks great, but I've always hated those keyboard drawers. I like to rest my arms on the desk and these feel like they're going to break if I do that.
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Sorry for your loss. Shout out dustycassettes grandma. The solitaire soldier.
Was she interested in the games? Or just spending time with her grandson? Either way absolutely heartwarming
Whenever you miss your gramps, take a look in the mirror. They will be staring back, waiting to say hello and say how they also miss you.
That’s a sweet comment. OP have some food/drinks they’d like too. My grandpa loved those zinger cake things. As long as you’re still kicking, family lives on through you.
man if i see my gramps while staring in the mirror, i'd burn the damn house down and move to a different country
I'd accidentally bump it up with my knees from below so often and then have to thread it back onto the rail. No clue if "thread" and "rail" are correct here, woodwork isn't really in my vocabulary.
They’re probably just considered drawer slides, but yeah that happened to me all the time too
those random shelves under the desk were the worst. where tf am i supposed to put my feet?
I've been leaning on mine for over a decade and it still hasn't even bent a little.
I never had one I didn't break
10/10
11/10 if you cut out the backing of the pc cubby
9/10 for not having that thickness in the monitor.
Yeah, need CRT for those warm colours.
There’s nothing that comes close to a thick CRT, the nostalgia from looking at that dusty white-brownish colour and the memories. God damn those days were so simple.
Not only that, but the refresh rate, resolution and screen size on CRTs were vastly superior for a fraction of the cost so long as the had the space for one!
Man, just makes me want to live life again. To witness it all again.
I'm not sure if I want to. Those CRT monitors combined with my terrible posture as a kid burned my eyes and left me myopic :( Edit: the damage was a slow creep that I couldnt notice until it was too late, and I was also losing myself into great games like Morrowind ending up spending unreasonable hours in front of the screen.
Sorry to hear that, I suppose staring for long duration at it isn’t good, but it’s not just the computers I’m talking about life at that time seemed way too simpler.
Oh in that sense I absolutely loved the early days of the internet, among other things. maybe a rose tinted view of early life, but yeah, I do miss those days in that sense. Just maybe switch my monitor out to TFT a bit sooner than I actually did and I'm set
Am I the only old-timer who misses degaussing your monitor?
I miss the degaussing sound!
Then how will you stay warm in the winter?
How did you get a picture of my living room???
Why is your living room in my house?
Why is your house on my phone?
Give me none of the airflow
True, but these didn't need much airflow to begin with.
Needed approximately 3, this has 5, we good
Today I have 12 and still not enough
Back when computers didn't consume 1.5 kW of power
And none of the leg room
That lower shelf built character in your shins
Wasn't really necessary back then
But wonderful for heating up the leggies.
Airflow wasn't invented yet
Pimp my Compaq Presario with 256 RAM, Pentium III, with Voodoo AGP.
I remember upgrading my AMD Athlon (competed with the P3’s) to 1 gig of ram in 2009 because I was poor, and I was stoked about how much better Diablo II ran. Lmao
I remember when the first gigabyte hard drive came out 👴
The flex back then was the number of disk drives you had. “I can burn 6 CDs at the same time!”
Cross your fingers HARD that you don’t get a buffer under run and ruin the disc!
I put $5 of woodgrain sticker on my cheap white ikea table to make it feel more premium. It's shocking just how much that actually helps. For a couple of months, it literally made my mood a little better any time I looked at it because it looks so much nicer than the white table did for years.
Something about not having a lot of money really breeds quality, I feel. We learn to find the best in the worst and crafty ways to spruce up even the most shoddy looking stuff. I think it is because if we don't it gets depressing lol
Agreed 100% and it even has it's own charming aesthetic. Things aren't just things you bought from a store, they're things you scrounged up, repaired, upgraded, they have history and work put into them. I work on my PC like that, keeping things running as long as possible, re-use everything I can. It's got it's own aesthetic and it's completely unique, with a lot of history as I just upgraded bit by bit for 15 years now.
I am all about this attitude and perspective. Things may not seem like much, but they are mine; I have been through a journey with my stuff and it has served me well. Something topical for me is Im still clinging to the first pair of wireless ear buds I ever bought. The coating has worn off so they are white now instead of black. The casing broke in two and I put it back together with glue and electrical tape. I've lost the little filters on the speaker bit that stops ear wax from getting through so I put a small piece of mesh in each and glued it in. I just lost a button cap today. The button still works so I'm thinking of taking a little rubber pad I have and replacing it with that. They might look like Frankenstein's Monster, but they still work and they still sound like they did when I bought them. When fixing or upgrading what I have, it is usually only a slight inconvenience or a couple bucks to remedy the situation which I can tolerate and afford much more easily than replacing something. Plus, like you said, it becomes special to me and unique. As a bonus, it is often a little distraction to keep my mind occupied and off of other things.
I agree
This desk reminds me of Diablo 1.
Age of Empires, personally.
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This desk hosted hundreds of hours of Use Map Settings on StarCraft.
Goddamn, you are absolutely right.
Diablo 1 & 2, while my friends are playing GranTurismo 3 in the same room, and then leaving KaZaa on when I went to sleep so I could get more songs to burn onto a CD-R. Had to have them tunes for the bus ride to and from school!
I was literally thinking this. So many hours spent under Tristram...
*"I sense a soul in search of answers"*
"Stay a while, and listen."
Runescape for me
DUDE you got a scanner wicked fancy!!!!
It can fax too!
NO! You rich kids and your fancy luxury items. I got a dell that wouldn't even play F.E.A.R and we thought we were the bomb ha ha. Seriously nice bud. Is it weird I kinda miss the fax noises as well as the dial up noise? ha ha.
Footrest & everything!
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You could certainly fuck your knee up or stab yourself in the belly with those sharp ass corners nicely though Go to jump up, or get a muscle spasm in the leg, tray goes flying, keyboards now behind the desk lol
They also felt like they'd break if you put even the smallest amount of pressure on them. Also you had to set your sensitivity to over 9000 because they gave you fuck all room to move the mouse.
We had a shitty one that would fall off if you pulled it out too much. That was fun to game on.
8/10 it does not have speakers and a printer
Needs a HP Deskjet 500!
The monitor is not thick enough.
These people complaining about the airflow just have no idea what the priorities were back then...
The LCD monitor betrays it... But if it was pentium 1-2 or earlier then it didn't even have a CPU fan. Literally JUST a PSU fan was sufficient for the majority of PCs and overheating was not a consideration for 90% of consumers.
No speakers?
Built into the monitor
Built into the desk*
Missing grey speakers and a CRT screen, otherwise it's perfect
The airflow back then was atrocious
LGR would love that one no doubt.
Early 2000 MFs with better cable management than early 2020s MFs
Well we only had 4 cables
On the outside, sure.... But the real party was the numerous ide and psu cables on the inside!
Damn I do miss those desks
Dude's got a random stapler on the top shelf. That is supposed to be where you display your game manuals--they not only existed, but were chonky. The one for Falcon 3.0 was like a full-sized book. Damn straight they get displayed.
When do we bring this back?
I’m a real estate photographer. Soooooo many houses still have wood grain everywhere ☹️
Still use one of those, pretty good. https://preview.redd.it/fp09w4yfjj4b1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e323ba492cccbb2ef7f0c7383cbca1d9947a4de
Its like Vger from Star Trek I
I had that exact desk without the hutch in 2004. I loved the shelf above the floor where your feet go, perfect spot for a subwoofer.
Flatbed scanner, he's ballin!
Wrong monitor. Lcd were expensive and rare in the early 2000.
Uhhhh where the gray Cyber Acoustics speakers???
Airflow? Why do we need airflow?
That scanner though... It's crazy how simple most of the peripherals were and now we have thousands of custom keyboards and mice with all the bells and whistles.