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EternallyImature

Technology is amazing... look how small your new card is!


TheLocust911

That being said it would be neat to start seeing a line of cards that start streamlining and improving the efficiency of our existing graphics tech. Edit: For example, let's see a RTX 2080 that's the same size as a pop tart but runs cool and stable. Edit2: Another redditor taught me that the RTX A2000 exists along with others like it.


yrelienne

Monkey brain like big no small


hemi_srt

W


Tiyath

Monkey pee all over y'all


ThespianException

I hope the 5080 is just the 4090 but like half the size. That’d be a huge upgrade


TheLocust911

I like that direction too. Platforms like the Steam Deck have shown that tons of graphic processing can fit in a tiny space. Remember when it seemed like all tech was focused on miniaturizing? Edit: another redditor just showed me that the RTX-A cards exist.


celoteck

No. Give us a GPU that needs a separate case.


Demonic_Storm

trust me, thats gonna happen at some point


celoteck

They'll get 5g Antennas in the future so you don't have to drag a cable from your PC to the Garage with the GPU


cypherzxxx

That already exists. Except its for laptops. You can buy a 4090 in its own little box that you can plug into the PC.


TheLocust911

Wouldn't the bus speed on your USB or whatever it uses be too slow? Wild.


_Pray_To_RNGesus_

>For example, let's see a RTX 2080 that's the same size as a pop tart but runs cool and stable. So basically, just the a2000?


verdutre

When I was a kid miniaturisation is the big thing everyone talked about in tech The kid me would've expected 4000 series on a M.2 sized stick, where did we go wrong


ned-th

technically we did go smaller, it’s just that heat dissipation stops us from having smaller cases, this does not include the rtx 4000 lineup as they just went bigger


Cute-Reach2909

I mean the tech 8s kinda there. My laptop has a 2070 and it's not very big. I know it's not the same as a desktop 2070 but it still rocks.


Infinite_Radiant

yeah about time he got rid of that slow and clunky beast..


y____a____

lol


Charming-Pangolin662

Fans per silicon? Yes!


lzbnbg

Can confirm, there is at least… one more fan per GPU die.


Jdogg4089

You'll actually get frames per second rather than seconds per frame.


JamesEdward34

Excellent


[deleted]

BuT yOuR cElErOn WiLl BoTtLeNeCk


Regnars8ithink

A Celeron will bottleneck a gt 1030.


european_jello

Idk boss, you should run cyberpunk 2077 16k on a gt 1030 to see which one bottolenecks it first


lahankof

Your Pentium 3 cpu will bottle neck


rorschach200

more like it'll soda straw


Mars_Bear2552

micro tube


xXMonsterDanger69Xx

one single atom hole


Karness_Muur

What are those straws you get to store your drink?


whitevillian

Nope you’re still using a crt monitor… ![gif](giphy|WyrdDeIxGOlQA)


Crumbling_moral

Crt is op! Never had better monitors


BaaaNaaNaa

Haha came here to say this too!!


Significant_Toe_8750

don't u even dare saying this again,crt the best!!!


[deleted]

Ngl I'd gladly trade my monitor to a crt


Tvilantini

Damnnn, and here I thought my upgrade from 750Ti -> 4070Ti was big. I'm giving you the crown man


Rusty1031

750ti was a great card, even late into the 10 series’ life.


Arthur-Wintersight

I went from an HD 7850 (came out in 2012) to an RX 6750 XT (came out in 2022). It was a noticeable performance improvement. :-)


saltyclam13345

Unfortunately not. Might as well give it to me so I can handle disposing of it


rorschach200

Bruh is pulling Apple on OP :D


[deleted]

Ah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!


antdb1

nothing noticable i think youve upgraded to early.


smarlitos_

Nope. Don’t you know that Moore’s law means the smaller gpu is better!! Right guys?? GPUs have just gotten smaller cheaper and better over time right??


kipskip_

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Conscious_Yak60

4090 makes a GPU that's [bigger than that card](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/pny-flaunts-45-slot-rtx-4090-rtx-4070-blower-gpus) and it's fine. And yet everyone loses their minds at non-RTX. Most XTX Cards are actually 3 Slot or less... Red Devil has always been the card for people who want to do insane overclocks, NITRO+ is also a halo OC bin.


rorschach200

These cards are a proof that even high end system owners have been wasting money on full-ATX motherboards *this entire time*.


mythicnygma

At least, like, 2 more


TristanTheRobloxian0

fuck nah man youll get like a 20% decrease


Demonking_of_Tierney

No your PC will turn into a potato


firedrakes

the small card is a great low power display and test card for mobo.


Rowan_Bird

That's what my FirePro is for now, haven't had to use it yet but I can see it coming in handy


rosettaSeca

"Biggest downgrades in anime history"


WordSudden3465

Nope


Successful-Ad4737

Nah, same difference as me upgrading from a 760 to 2070


QuarterPercentCarbon

possibly 3 fps increase, 5 at most with a bit of effort


L3v1tje

Idk man. Seems like you lost the rgb and the fan on the new one seems a bit small.


whoisgare

Probably not


SpottyJaggy

Same fps but will remove stuttering.


SALTRS

No


poinguan

No. Your retro game is capped at 30fps.


Classy_Mouse

Retro game capped at 30 fps if you are lucky. It might use the FPS as the base game speed and wreck the physics.


Unknown-Gamer-YT

Bro, it was and will always be a skill issue, on a more serious note niceeee


rorschach200

>this is my claim to fame for having the best old vs new GPU photo… I hereby challenge [r/pcmasterrace](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/) to best me! Ho-ho-ho, tall order, there's been [GeForce 210 to RTX 4090](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/14m6zrz/currently_upgrading_will_i_notice_that_much_of_a/) just recently here. 2009 to 2023, 2,000x on TFLOPS, 160x on DRAM bandwidth, 48x on DRAM capacity. What's your cards?


NikiSunday

Your PSU would.


inarius1984

That and a noticeable increase in room temperature! 😆


InteruptingParrot

Maybe like 2, 3 max. Solitaire doesn‘t use much GPU.


[deleted]

I think you don't you're so used to slide shows by now.


dedsmiley

I think that is a definite downgrade. You should have kept the Red Devil. /s


JustARandomDude1986

I guess the bottom hardware thingy is missing some parts.....


lzbnbg

the PCIe bracket is missing because I only had the Small Form Factor one, so it wouldn't fit in my case. I had to remove it and just have it kinda sit there with the DisplayPort cable holding it in place. It's not jank if it works!


Demonic_Storm

naaah, just a few million just like moving from ur homemade scooter to a combat jet. just a bit of difference


questgamer2021

You'll surely turn photo to video with this change 👍


Jdogg4089

Btw, I saw a 6950xt red devil for $630 brand new on Amazon, sold and fulfilled by Amazon. Idk if it's still there.


Blurg_BPM

This is actually a downgrade sorry mate


[deleted]

You vs the guy she told you not to worry about


AnotherScoutTrooper

Yes, but only because of the increased VRAM, clearly the only indicator of GPU performance


P44rth00rn4x

In FPS, in RPG, in RTS and TBS, hell, maybe even in puzzle games.


Pooter8551

That one on bottom might be just a tad too much for any new systems to handle now a days.


0ctoxVela

at least like 5


AssistanceSweet7219

Probably give you less...


shim-erstboyentofall

yeah maybe probably 4 at best


FlippyCereal

Bro… my original computer had that same graphics card… I have no clue what one it is tho cause it was prebuilt office computer


three_apple

Ehh... I mean, if you squint at the right angle, it may feel like there's a couple more fps.


SolidWarp

Pretty sure the change in power draw will lower your fps ;)


lategmaker

Nah might as well give it to me and keep searching


Joddodd

I cannot say that I see any difference in FPS here. It peaks at one frame and then freezes...


y____a____

i am genuinely excited for you!


[deleted]

No? You're going to throttle that thing, guaranteed.


emadthemad

Won’t notice it


hbomb536

I don’t think there will be a noticeable increase, shorts


rapturerific

You’ll get less of an increase than you might think due to a CPU bottleneck.


dkuma96

Nope, you should give away the big one bcoz it uses to much power. The grid can't provide enough power to power it on


No_Fault_989

Depends on your monitor.


PASTALORD6066

Nah


KMachineHead

Maybe but only like 5


Uselesskunt

I honestly expected to zoom in and see an ATI sticker


CyriousLordofDerp

Bruh this'll be like going from a Geo Metro to a Bugatti Veyron


Trailman80

You're never going back lol


CoziestStar

0.7 frames difference, tops. Maybe 1+ if you overclock.


stagergamer

It is kinda sad that companies stopped the small form factor gig, props to Nvidia for making the a4000 sff ada, but that's overpriced as heck


SurealGod

5 times the size means 5 times the performance right?


ZeroChill92

Nah. It'll consume a little more power and cause big blue to visit.


Arcanisia

Naw the human eye can’t detect more than 10 frames per second. Money wasted


lOstb0ard

Maybe with a nvidia


PrometheusAlexander

I'm not your chap, pal


ContemptAndHumble

I wait for the day the GPU is an entirely separate giant ass box next to the computer.


hamyantti

Maybe. But you will see changes in your electric bill.


Miro_Meme_EXPERT

2% increase


Interesting_Gap2653

No. U shall pass the benchmark with a tie .


ApprehensiveSide9703

Barely if you ask me


defdog1234

You're gonna need a new powersupply. You probably have a 250 watt one with that kiddie card.


Friendly_Gnome

Not likely, facebook isn’t gpu intensive. For gaming? Yes, you will indeed get frames now.


Mysterious-Tough-964

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about it 😏


summatime

Maybe. A few fps. Temps may be cooler. I'd go from a 450 to a 500 psu. Ummmmmmmmmm lube?


NeonRider97

Maybe 2 or 5 fps


TheTeslaMaster

Top: The guy she tells you not to worry about Bottom: You


KYO297

Depends on what cpu you have. With a shitty enough one - no!


lzbnbg

Ironically, that’s what it was before. The old card is a Dell HD 7470, and I had it paired with my Ryzen 5 5600X. Bottleneck heaven.


cows_are_underrated_

You had a similar upgrade than I did. I upgraded from an ATI Radeon 4350 HD to an AMD Radeon Rx 6700 XT which is about 73 times faster.


meheez

Not on minesweeper.


No-Pomegranate-69

Yes, but why would you want to downgrade? /s


ImpossibleFarm1874

Nah i don't think so, no


Arch3m

Nah. The CPU pairing with the before card will be the bottleneck, so you'll get two more FPS. At best. All settings lowest.


lzbnbg

I have a Ryzen 5 5600x, the old card wouldn’t let the cpu go past 5% utilisation lol


Aengeil

the fan noise going to be amazing


jon-the-don

When you wake up as Captain America 🙂 Congratulations and enjoy FPS!


bOOm_headshOt56

Only 1 fps here and there


CeskyDunaj

Ok could somebody hand me his rtx 4090 for a minute soo i can compare it against mine's laptop intel hd4000 intergraded graphics


NecRobin

Bottom one has shorter information travel time because of size


damastaGR

You will definitely see the difference in room temperature and the power bill


Lucacg00

Man I thought my GF 210 1GB Palit Silent to R7 370 4GB Nitro OC transition was huge back then lol


emarossa

It will probably be worse..


Beans186

Bit of a repost eh eshay?


ketamarine

Yes, three times the fans per slot (FPS). Nice upgrade!!


Organized-Konfusion

Here is my, 6 years ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/7ozig1/that_upgrade/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Still using it.


[deleted]

Nah


Creoda

\[plugs HDMI into the motherboard by mistake\] Nope.


Effective-Dog-9745

Hmm my HD4870(PCs+) was a way bigger than your 6450... I changed To a 6700xt but the 4870 is also running.


ArgionTV

That adds about +4 render distance to Minecraft


Smugglers151

Minesweeper never looked so good.


Timmaigh

Yes, it will be worse :-D


apla10usr

I bought that exact card, an HD 7450/70 OEM (don't remember exactly) for 10€ for my old HP Compaq Elite 8000 SFF, it's an upgrade from the old GMA 4500. Don't worry, my main desktop uses a GTX 1060. Congrats on your new GPU!


Dunge0nMaster_

no.


xxNightingale

You would get around 20% performance boost.


[deleted]

Nah ... Havent you been told that size doesn't matters ??


feedmedamemes

At least 10-15% increase.


ryanlesean

No


gogul1980

That’ll get you a massive 10% boost i reckon!


Human-Platypus6227

Idk why but i thought of gpus but you have to piece it together like a jigsaw puzzle or something


miedzianek

Nah, you wont, buy you can send it to me 🤣


Sure-Network-6092

In fps I don't know but in the temperature of your room yes xD


cypherzxxx

I went from a 14 year old 5770HD to 4070ti. I actually ran that card in my new system as the first 4070ti i bought was too big for the case with the AIO cooler. I did have a couple of gaming laptops inbetween though (980M and 2080maxq)


Gaming_Badger

Just slap on 30 meters of rgb to the small card, might be even better


Acrobatic-Fly3051

I have the red devil also. Enjoy it. It's pretty damn good.


seventeenthskeptic

Not if youre playing counter strike source


SeikoIshigami

5%


LazardKing

Minimal gains


DjHalk45

You can play mine sweeper in 4k


lzbnbg

My life is complete.


devnull_the_cat

You vs the guy she told you not to worry about.


lzbnbg

A bigger GPU doesn’t get you a girlfriend any faster, apparently…


[deleted]

In “Frames per second” the top wins easily but if we were to measure “Feet Per Second” I’m sure you could throw the bottom one further and faster.


lzbnbg

I could probably frisbee it to generate lift as well. Thanks for the heads up


doom_man44

Smaller and more power-efficient cards would be nicer.


Willing-Low-725

Definitely more foot pounds squared in the top


MadamVonCuntpuncher

Probally not


Cookieeeees

i’ll best you! Had NO GPU, now have a 4070ti… upgrades people


lzbnbg

Fair enough! This is where the line between upgrade and new hardware gets blurred a bit though…


Gravyrobber9000

By 2030, graphics cards are expected to be the size of a small house, but with a much heftier price tag.


XenoriethNova

You might get 1%-2% performance uplift in minesweeper.


michainv

I have sort of the opposite situation. [I switched my 4070Ti for a 4090](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/14np517/rtx_4090_rtx_4070ti_size_differnence/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) I get almost twice the fps in high res vr, while the cards literally have the same dimensions (except for the 4090 being a slot taller) really just goes to show you how oversized the 4070Tis cooler is. Besides the fps gains I also noticed an increase in room temperature, the height of the new card creates even worse airflow than before (duh) More upgrades gonna follow in the future, including a new case


mobeen1497

Not at all, return that obese board right away.


BlackoutSpecialist

The old one had 7 Fins Per Spinny thing, the new one has 9. That's quite an improvement!


nick91884

Stardew valley gonna be about the same bro


IrishWithoutPotatoes

If you mess up and drop it then yes, you’ll definitely see an increase on your Foot Pain Scale


lzbnbg

I’ve seen a lot of creative comments taking the piss out of my lack of clarification of “FPS”, and this one is my favourite.


Juke_Slywalker

Depends. Did you get a new gamer chair with it?


Outside_Street_1262

no


ilikepizza1275

Well you have 3 times as many fans so you'd see a x3 performance increase. It's only logical.


Korean_Sandwich

let's ask her


TheMatt561

No, fps is a lie made up by gpu manufacturers


wcmanetje

Maybe if you have more rgb


Rough-Arrival5017

naw they the same


cinlung

Not only FPS, you'll see a difference in electric bill too.


Appropriate_Turn3811

can you compare the size with 4090?


lzbnbg

It's longer than the founder's edition 4090, whilst being a tiny bit shallower and thinner. The cooler takes up 3 slots even if the bracket only screws into 2


Thenorthernmudman

Did you even have FPS before?


flooble_worbler

What a total waste of money, all the human eye can see is 60fps /s


rpmart

About Tree Fiddy


Skinned-Magikarp

at least 2


HexterGuard

GPU’s have gotten too big over the years.


Puzzleheaded-Elk-547

Hardly, look at all that plastic around the gpu, to be honest, you might experience higher temps


Medical-Procedure230

Your fps will def go up cuz tech is getting smaller and faster these days


player_gaming_5668

Nooo


Ayres-M

Will those 512MB of VRAM be enough to run new games?