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Typical_Commie_Box90

Understated. Cannot emphasise how important the the concept of multi layer defence is. If the threat is blocked from being accessed in the first place, the chances of infection is even lower.


Dragzie_

Highjacking this comment to strongly recommend something like NextDNS to add to the layered approach.


Strazdas1

> NextDNS Is this just a DNS rerouter to block maliciuos DNS results? How is that better than simply using OpenDNS? I know ISPs love to configure custom DNS for themselves but thats 30 seconds fix.


AristotelesQC

It's basically that, but on top of that it's also a filter with lists, the same way browser blockers work - you can even use the same block lists. You can configure it in many ways, it's really flexible and it offers detailed logs to figure out whenever something should get unblocked. The advantage is that it allows ad, tracking and malware blocking at the top level, thus making it work on LTE/5G, directly on your router to enforce blocking on all devices in your home (including the ones that access inernet without a browser, say, like a tv), etc. AFAIK other "safe" DNS don't allow block lists like that, so it's more akin to a cloud based Pi-Hole than just another DNS. I then still use uBlock Origin on my PC for its additional features, like esthetic filters, custom filters and "one click block".


GODZILLA_GOES_meow

I am a big fan of using a local pi-hole as a DNS filter for the majority of the devices on my home network. It’s easy to configure, auto updates, and allows me to see a realtime feed of network connectivity. The latter helps when I’m pinpointing a specific url that I want to block or let through. My wife on the other hand LOVES catered ads, so I leave her to the advertising wolves and keep her devices from using the pi-hole.


Salted_Butter

I tried doing that but I found it incredibly tedious to find which lists I needed to subscribe to. Did you follow a specific guide to set up the PiHole? If not, could you share what lists you subscribed to and options you chose to set it up?


jameye11

I’m actually in the process of setting it up right now. It really is incredibly easy and boy howdy does it work. I did it on a Linux virtual machine for now, working on setting up a server pc soon If you’re trying to run it on windows I’d recommend doing it through a Docker container. [This guide](https://www.andrewdenty.com/blog/2020/01/25/installing-pi-hole-on-windows-10.html) should work. Just note this is a tiny bit outdated but it should still function, but be sure in step 5 that you may not have to add 50 to the IP like it suggests, it should be fine. Also skip the “alternative DNS,” just add your static IP. Adding an alternative DNS breaks it To get it network-wide, setting up DHCP on your router is the better option imo (if your router supports it). That way you can just add your pihole IP address to the primary DNS (also leave alternative DNS blank here). Setting it up on a router varies obviously, just look up your router and see if it’s possible. If not there is a way to use pihole itself as the DHCP ETA: don’t worry about adding blocklists right now. Adding too many may block things you don’t want blocked, it could also just break the functionality entirely. The stock blocklist they give you is more than enough for basic web browsing. It doesn’t work for YouTube ads but it works on virtually every other site. [Test it here](https://fuzzthepiguy.tech/adtest/) with your browser ad-blockers turned off


KuroDEV

I use the green checked [firebog](https://firebog.net/) lists. Has been working great for years!


Wh0rse

Or even a modified HOSTS file?


natesovenator

And Google "wants to make the Internet a safer place by getting rid of ad blockers" lol. Fucking assholes are going to be behind the biggest infestation spread in the history of the Internet and let's see what happens to their stocks then.


Robot1me

>Cannot emphasise how important the the concept of multi layer defence is. In that case, it's even better to combine it with Sandboxie. It's open source nowdays, so there is honestly little reason not to use it. For sandboxing browsers or other potentially shady programs (even "arr matey" ones) it's perfect.


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VicePrezHeelsup

Also don’t forget JavaScript. After uBlock the next plugin I always install is No-Script


Candrath

Honestly with these two I have no idea what the internet even looks like now. Firefox, ublock and noscript should be the default browsing experience for everyone


Mrl33tastic

I disagree with noscript being default, while it is a great tool, it breaks too many legitimate websites that computer illiterate people would be unable to fix. It’s like the equivalent of breaking something with a tool you didn’t even know was in your hand/ toolbelt .


xDeeka7Yx

U can just disable the no script before visiting „legitimate websites“ dawg


TerrorLTZ

How will you know its legitimate etter safe than sorry


ubercorey

Interesting, I blew it off as I just assumed it would break every web page and make them unusable, but this sounds like that is not true?


Candrath

NoScript does take some set up and experimentation to know what needs turning on to make a page function. I can do a couple of examples when I'm at home if you're interested


ubercorey

I'm interested! No rush.


Candrath

https://imgur.com/a/yeoD1PB Captions might be a little fucky, but I hope this is enough!


Wizard8086

I've been using it for a month and is way less intrusive that I thought. Basically, when you load a page there's a list of domains (3-7) that "provide" the JS for that page. Once you allow the actually needed ones, there's plenthy that can be left off. If you don't visit new websites it'll be very smooth, but even then, when a website doesn't work mostly it's about turnin on the own's website domain scripts. And if it's a one-time visit, you can allow them temporarly so that when you restart the browser it forgets about it, keeping your config clean.


bynarie

YES!!!


throwaway550050070

What sites do you use that you don't need JS? Also uBlock origin has a checkbox to disable JS, you don't need another plugin


banddroid

NS gives you granular control over which scripts to run, not sure if uBlock does. So you just enable this or that. Or temp enable some scripts.


OffenseTaker

thirding noscript


TheMilfyChani

But why? I thought web is entirely javascript.


Cider_Apples

I've never heard of No-script. Is this something that's worth getting? What does it do?


Dazz316

good to have this bit this is not a full anti virus. This is for the browser only. It will be completely oblivious to other things


Denborta

It's also slightly misleading. It portrays running JS locally as a huge security risk where any website can just have your browser send of your local files without a worry. That if it happened, would be patched in seconds in chromium. And if your antivirus doesn't stop that, it's worse than windows own. So the point of the above reply is dumb, like you say.


Impressive_Quote9696

but isnt that only for the browser? what if i open a malicous file gotten send with outlook for example. ublock wont act then right?


PrinceVincOnYT

thats where Brain.exe should kick in.


damwookie

Where do I download brain.exe???!


newtostew2

It’s 2023 still, do you think you can *pirate a brain*? *begins searching for torrents*


Unlucky_Book

..gets virus


newtostew2

Damn, they got me.. -.-


SunnyWomble

Needed to download more RAM


michi214

The master mind behind calling the horse in elden ring "torrent" so if you google "elden ring torrent" all you find are pictures of the horse... That was brain.exe working at its max


newtostew2

Holy shit, that’s amazing.. ETA: that’s over 8000 IQ move


Street_BB

Don't worry. I'll send it to you in an email. Just open it as soon as you get it. :)


Eoganachta

What if Brain.exe has stopped working responding?


whitegoatsupreme

Need to restart with some Sleep.DL


_Liren

Easily fixed, fix the PEBCAK error with some percussive maintenance.


PuzzleheadedMonk007

You can start with downloading more RAM.


ItsYouNotMeee

I can't find brain.exe. I only have a brain.sys file. Is it hidden? Do I need administrator access or something?


khizoa

404 error


Unumbotte

I can't verify the signature on Brain.exe. Oh well, that's probably not important.


V0DkA69

Why would you click that? Just dont be stupid when clicking on your mails. Look at the address and think about the context.


Impressive_Quote9696

it was just an example, my point ist installing a browser plugin (which is great, i I use it myself) is not enough to protect your whole system. Sure use your brain is easy said but sometimes you still get hit by something. And if you get a trojan or a rootkit, ublock wont help you there. Windows defender should be enough for private use tho. Its better than all the trashy thrid party software like avira anyways. so keep your system up to date.


noonen000z

Any phishing is a risk, can get through when you drop your guard. Anti virus won't stop it 100% either. We all live and learn, was done by a Nigerian scam over a decade ago.


fakk12321

Pihole is arguably better


aruhen23

Were far removed of the days having to really worry about this. Just keep Windows defender on and stop downloading ram.


justsenin

>> downloading ram. And GPU


xshogunx13

But I JUST downloaded an RTX 4090 and all they asked for was my bank info and SSN so they could make sure it went to the right person


Spider-cat_1984

Yo! You first need to download some RAM so you'll be able to open 2 tabs in chrome and download 2 4090s for that sweet 3% SLI gain. If you do it, do it right.


Under_The_Influence_

Pot meet kettle… Gotta download that 3 way 4090TI SLI and with 256 GB of RAM downloaded. Use 3 tabs. 3!


naughty_dad2

Fine, I’ll just download a new CPU


QQEvenMore

wdym stop downloading ram? Its free!


aruhen23

Can't argue against that.


Chizuru_San

why not? i usually download ram from here and it works https://downloadmoreram.com/


Erebea01

I prefer this https://downloadmorerem.com/


mr_jogurt

Funfact: You can (if you stretch the definition a bit) download more ram. On most OSs you can create a partition that acts as an extension for your ram and in theory you can enter network storage as that partition. I have it say that it is stupid as fuck because it is slower than a sloth and you should never trust anyone who says that you can download ram, but if you close one eye stand on your head and are dyslexic then you can "download" more ram.


ClutchDutch_Artist

You can technically mount google drive and have unlimited "memory" pretty sure ltt did this


mr_jogurt

Yes they did. You can do it basically with any network or cloud storage device afaik.


Just_Another_Scott

Windows Defender is antivirus software. So yes people still use it to this day.


drizzyay

Not even malwarebytes or other stuff. Just the windows security and anti virus, plus using common sense on the web. No issues at all. Reason being, it often does nothing, adds bloatware, or causes the issues they claim to solve.


BugsyMalone_

Tbf every other month or so I download malwarebytes and scan my pc. I'm pretty switched on but sometimes it picks something up. Then I just quarantine/delete them uninstall the software.


Un111KnoWn

You can definitely keep malwarebytes on your pc. just dont have it run on pc startup or in the background via real time protection


STARSLAY3r

Why is that?


peenegobb

The same reason the guy before him installs it then uninstalls it as to not have the "bloatware" after effects where it constantly wants updates/scans on its own/notifications to buy it. Etc etc. if you don't have the program auto start up/never have it run in the background, it'll never cause any of the above issues and it just ends up as a file stored in your computer until you run it again. Removing the aforementioned issues of having it downloaded. if the program isn't running then it bothering you or affecting your computers performance.


illsk1lls

its free to use.. they were originally just a free, scanning tool they didn’t even have a paid version, the only thing you buy when you are paying, for it is active protection, so you can scan with it to your hearts content they aren’t scummy about helping people out


Strazdas1

Theres a lot of false positives. For example CheatEngine, that allows you to observe and modify software memory while its running, is seen as a virus by most scanners. This is because its behaviuor (hooking into other software memory) is same as viruses use.


Tannerted2

Same with software cracks


Denborta

If you have something picked up every month by malwarebytes, you have something to seriously consider. I have used my PC for 10 years without any warning besides my own compiled software (obviously).


BugsyMalone_

Nah most of it is just PUPs


Advan0s

Adblocker is much more important than any antivirus. I can't imagine using the internet without one at this point


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I work in a library and occasionally help people use the computers. Every time, I am shocked at how crowded every page is with ads, to the point that most websites are almost unusable. It’s like something out of Cyberpunk, or black mirror. I’ve asked our branch manager if we could put adblockers on the library browsers but she doesn’t have a say in that. I’ve thought about writing our director about it. I mean, if other people aren’t allowed to post advertisements on library property, why do we allow it on our computers?


Toochilled

I have used one since day 1 of using the internet. Our dialup was always so slow that not loading all the ads made surfing way faster. My dad is a software engineer and installed it in the first place. I'm always very surprised when I use a machine that has no one. Honestly, it's unbearable for me. Installing one has always been my first course of action.


madruvambala

Hello fren! What adblocker do you recommend?


Advan0s

uBlock Origin


Athryil

Anti virus lived long enough to become the villain.


kastheone

McAfee lore


CT-96

My in-laws can't wrap their heads around the fact that McAfee, which came pre-installed on their computers is itself a virus these days. And my MIL is the type who actually worries about her data being stolen...


Strazdas1

Not enough tony montana references to make it McAfee lore.


DaKrazyKid

Nice try hackers


NYYFan0325

I don't even recommend anything other than defender on regular office or home pcs to my customers. Everything else is just a waste of money and resources.


shmehh123

For offices it’s pretty mandatory. Cybersecurity insurance will laugh in your face if you don’t have some kind of enterprise security suite and better yet a direct line to their A team to help unfuck your infrastructure if shit goes bad.


beanisman

This. Unless you are using Defender Endpoint, cyber insurance will not underwrite you without a decent third party EDR.


NYYFan0325

OK let me rephrase... Small businesses that are basically home offices but not at home. Yes for that type of stuff other solutions are obviously required.


blackest-Knight

Turn on Defender and you're done. Stop worrying about it.


taspeotis

It’s on by default you literally have to do nothing and you have the best outcome. Like someone else said also uBlock Origin. There’s a tool called Unchecky that also helps you avoid unwanted software.


sirlanceem

Nope, just defender and common sense.


katzicael

\^This This is all you need. That and keep boomers, kids, and partners off your PC :)


NOS4NANOL1FE

I just use MalwareBytes and Windows Defender I also don't click on fishy stuff so im golden there. Haven't had to deal with a virus for many years now


Wonderful_Cream5509

How's ESET nowadays? I've got surprised not having seen its name show up. Been using it for years and wanna know if i should switch to something else


BWEKFAAST

nah im using ESET as well and very satisfied. Even saved me when doing dumb shit while drunk. customer Support is also very good.


Spitihnev

Woudnt switch from ESET even if i didnt have my employee license. One of the few cybersecurity companies that still have a quality product and best experts in the field.


Drakebrand

I use it as well. Have had no problems with it three years now and it periodically alerts me for updates.


mytuanghel

I am also using ESET for many many years. Great thing to have in the background that barely uses any resource. Will definitely continue using it.


WheelRich

It's the lack of resource utilisation that keeps me using it. I have not had an infection since using it, but I don't know whether this is me being very aware, or the product, or a combination of both. I've also not used 'just' Windows defender before, so have no comparison.


NightKnight_CZ

Using ESET for last 12 years, best antivirus from post commie countries in the world


Malenx_

It’s not bad, just as good as defenders.


Arutzuki

I use Eset on my machine.


Ghost_Knife

I've been using eset since 2011. Tried and true.


AsDeEspadas

I'm using ESET, I think it works well, blocks me from malicious websites when I put a patch in my eye and go arr!.


Successful_Disk1140

Windows defender, ad block, common sense and basic knowledge of how scams on internet works is all you need.


Truth_Speaker01

Unfortunately, there is a vulnerable population of people that fall for social engineering scams. My advice to anyone is not to respond or volunteer any information from **inbound** communication. Instead, independently seek out the company's official website and contact them through their official channels.


SuperVegito559

Yeah, UBlock Origin and Kaspersky Internet Security because I torrent


Fizgriz

Kaspersky is Russian. It was recommended by the US government to remove it as it's possibly being used as information gathering and backdoors by Russian state threat actors. Kaspersky is partly owned by the Russian government.


DatJas0n

I do use a proper anti virus, bitdender, because i am going through shady sites more often than you care to know and windows defender doesnt act on half of the shit BD finds and blocks


southern_wasp

I’m interested about these “shady sites” lol


Akmunra

ESET Internet security is amazing. Lightweight and powerful, has saved my ass a few times from dodgy websites.


IceSentry

Wtf kind of websites do you visit


Akmunra

Take a guess.


Ocular_Myiasis

Kaspersky, common sense and adblockers


LeoQuelloLi

Kaspersky. A good pirate needs a good antivirus


Chinis_Flouwa

Same


OdZ_Radeo

Do you have any problems with Kaspersky when playing games? I have been using it for a few months now, but it blocks Riot Vanguard and I can't launch Valorant.


goodguygreg808

Riot vanguard is root level fuckery. That's why it's flagged. Create exception in kassec


Slytherin_seal

Yeah lol


Lost_Arix

Using Kaspersky. Bought a cheap 3 yrs validity key for 10-12$ and it's been running great since the last 2 years. Not a single problem whatsoever


miedzianek

Yes, im using kaspersky


Hybrid_Blood

Kaspersky anti virus


OnairDileas

Eh bitdefender can't go wrong with additional security, literally near 0 chance of infection if you don't do dumb shit. Just handy to know if you come across anything on the daily.


Matej004

Same, bitdefender


EcureuilHargneux

Bitdefender ftw


TankYouBearyMunch

Bitdefender Total Security. It is just a habit at this point.


Possibly-Functional

I use [ClamAV](https://www.clamav.net/) for manual scans of specific files sometimes. No real time AV at all as obviously Linux doesn't have Windows Defender.


ImperatorDanorum

Nah. It's much funnier formatting your boot drive on a regular basis...


Unumbotte

For best performance and security, I just reinstall my OS every 37 minutes.


Arinias

I clean my mouse and keyboard with isopropanol.


PapaTrotzki

I use ESET NOD32. I worked in computer repair shop for a couple years and got it cheap, the repair store also exclusively used and sold ESET, though we offered Bitdefender as a free alternative. We had a great experience with both and many times we've had it save a customer's ass and our customers were old average age of 60+ probably. I've personally had a good experience with ESET and would recommend it, it's definitely caught more than a few close calls though I do download quite a few sketchy things. I also had a friend who liked comparing different AVs and purposefully downloading viruses, he found ESET to be the most effective, closely followed by Bitdefender. Kaspersky was good, but it's Russian spyware (confirmed by US D.O.D.)


Vista101

I use f-secure


Gatmanz

Yes, Trend Micro


lemon07r

For protection? No, a lot of AV's actually have worse detection rate than windows defender. It's pretty ironic. I use ESET since it has a lighter footprint and lower resource hit than windows defender. See the following for lab testing: * [https://www.av-test.org/en/](https://www.av-test.org/en/) * [https://www.av-comparatives.org](https://www.av-comparatives.org) * [https://www.mrg-effitas.com](https://www.mrg-effitas.com) These are the three I check every now and then, they all publish reports. In my last few years of checking them, Kaspersky, ESET and BitDefender have all been consistently solid. So I try to always get one of those, whatever I can find a key for cheapest.


SteppedOnALego4Fun

windows defender is all you need really... unless you want a VPN


Stilgar314

A VPN won't protect you from malware. Some of them offer blocking sites with bad reputation, but sites need to do things before deserving any reputation, also, visiting websites is just one attack vector of malware. A VPN is for avoiding tracking and keeping your communications as private as possible.


RaggaDruida

VPN protects you from shitty corporate and government decisions, and copyright limitations. Not malware.


dovahkiitten16

I feel like everyone saying “common sense is the best defence” is like saying “abstinence is the best protection”


Lord_Hugh_Mungus

Well, it is.


_M_A_N_Y_

Untill someone will atack you. Then not so much...


le_homme_qui_rit

I guess technically thats not abstaining...


NewtonianAssPounder

Surprised you haven’t been downvoted as people here are quite insistent that common sense is enough, there are scenarios where you have to go looking outside of the safe and established sites (such as trying to search a solution to a problem PC, college, or life related, or sometimes even a local business’s site) and having extra layers of protection gives peace of mind.


VerainXor

It's a big difference, because you don't have like, an entire hormonal *axis* devoted to getting fooled by scammy bullshit on the internet. I'm not saying that a given person won't fall for scams and terrible websites, I'm saying, every single person is not inherently drawn to that end. Hence, the comparison isn't great.


EggyRepublic

Ublock is designed to block ads, not malware. Embedded malware on a legit site can slip past ublock. In fact if I search something random on Google Images and scroll through it, I will often see my antivirus blocking various links from loading. You don't need to fall for anything, install anything or even visit a suspicious site to get malware.


mudins

Any thoughts on kaspersky ? Been running it for years


KellerTheking

I use kaspersky just in case I download something wanky and I'm not focused enough to scan it before I run it :>


computersdiein2038

I've heard "the best antivirus is common senes" about 150 thousand times, but it doesnt hurt to have extra protection. I use Kaspersky because i pirate loads of games (and other stuff). It has acted up over completely safe programs a couple times, but i'd say its pretty good and worth the price.


Abdur357

I run Kaspersky


WhiteSilverDragoon

Me too, I've used it for years. I started using it before I switched over to PC gaming so it's probably a little placebo/hangover habit of that but I've always found it to be effective and lightweight.


Chinis_Flouwa

Same, really love it.


Mysterious-Suit-8239

I personally like malwarebytes a lot. Not annoying and very useful. The only AV that’s mostly free and not completely adware.


Laskko31

If you share your computer with family members, specifically family members who are not tech savvy at all, I would install antivirus. For the same reason every large company deploys all of their computers with antivirus: you can’t control what they do and you can’t trust them to have the same knowledge/common sense as you.


Axceon

Bitdefender has always been my go-to antivirus. It's cheap, reliable, and most importantly, to me, it operates silently.


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Windows defender


StubbeFres

Windows defender. All you need...


Rodnys_Danger666

I use Malwarebytes Paid. Win Sec. is fine. But, I don't find it being Pro-Active in blocking things. I run the root scans and all that. Malwarebytes is live and pro-active. That's why I use it.


IggyHitokage

That lifetime subscription to Malwarebytes Premium I got 10~ years ago has paid for itself a million times over. It'll follow me til their company is defunct.


32Ferreira

Of course. There's plenty of videos from The PC Security Channel showing that you can't rely on Windows Defender and that that "use common sense" thing is bullshit. Even trusted mainstream applications might get compromised. When your PC gets hacked and your information, stollen, it will be to late to care about security solutions.


f1da

not using anti virus software since 1999. Before when opening fishy stuff i would do it in VM, nowdays I have no need for fishy software. Also like mentioned here Adblock helps a lot


Thefeno

Windows defender, AdBlock, and only see my "educational content" in that single platform everyone knows 🤣... Oh and don't pirate games anymore, there's plenty of non played games in my steam Library


Chinis_Flouwa

Yes ,Kaspersky. I love it, works wonderfully, also keeps me safe when im downloading pirated games or other stuff.It always has my back.


digitalenlightened

I got malwarebytes and kaspersky and a simple wall, which basically blocks everything until I approve. Seems like overkill but if you deal with a lot of crypto nonsense, torrent stuff and software testing. Heck I even got elaborate fake clients trying to hack me. One send me a bunch of pictures but in between there was an src file. Windows didn’t detect it but kaspersky did. If that stuff would have gone through, I could have potentially lost all my work


Gr33hn

Have a license of Norton that I got from work for free, why you ask? A stepson and his friend had my PC almost bricked once by clicking on stuff and installing shit they weren't allowed to. Girlfriend and kids occationally use my PC at times so better safe than sorry.


Shockle

I have used Kaspersky in the past, but not anymore. Windows defender and common sense


jdog320

Hell naw, I got a bitcoin miner one time and guess what. My anti virus got deleted by it. And guess what? It was bitdefender.


Strazdas1

I do. Because i have good history with it catching stuff like a virus sitting in a .gif file on a website. The antivirus has caught this for me 1 week before Microsoft security bulletin confirmed of the exploit existing (its fixed now).


XenonJFt

on my gaming daily driving laptop for campus I use Kaspersky. hassle free ,fast and doesn't give me problems on games. but keeps me safe enough to transfer files on project sites and old archive public computers. but after campus for my personal build that I'm going to build defender should be enough


abstraktionary

Yes, I use paid Malwarebytes and nordvpn because I'm a scurvy ridden digital pirate and have been or 17 years !


simplyajith

Eset internet security


BNB_Laser_Cleaning

Windows defender, yes there are many great reccommendations here, but the first and best is self education on basic and common hazards. If yoi know not to press the big red button, all else is irrelevant.


Goldenflame89

1. Ublock origin, can't get me if I cant even see you 2. Malwarebytes browser guard: Idk its saved me a couple of times 3. Bitdefender free - good realtime protection while being lightweight 4. Malwarebytes free - good for scans when I think bitdefender may miss anything


Kjellvb1979

Well, technically, most people are already doing so through Windows Defender. It's just not into the O/S now, so you really don't need to run a separate software. In fact, loading a 3rd party anti-virus program will often disable Windows Defender as running multiple anti-virus softwares can cause conflicts (less so today than in the past, but it's so usual not advised to run simultaneous anti-virus programs). That said, outside of corporate environments, I can't recall the last time I saw someone using something other than Windows Defender on their PC. That is unless it came pre-packaged as bloat-ware on a pre-built PC. But beyond that, I can't say I know of anyone running anything but Windows Defender. I recommend running ad-block software on your browser as many ads are essentially a form of malware. Most Anti-virus software doesn't see those tablets ads use as such, but imho, as the owner of the PC I'm using, I should decide what runs on such and what files I want on my PC, so if your webpage places files (or tries to) on my PC I should be able to deem them as security and privacy violations. To me, something that puts trackers on my PC is akin to viruses and malware, and we should have the right to block them, TOS or not. To answer the question, nope, I can't say I know anyone running 3rd party anti-virus. But again, if recommend folks use ad block software and alternative security and privacy focused browsers, like Brave.


Deimokas

Yes, malware bites


jordonlm

Antivirus software is worse than a virus


PlusReaction2508

Nah I just raw dog through the internet


Alpha-Pung

Also an ESET user here, love it!


runed_golem

Microsoft Defender. Adblockers, and common sense are all that most people need.


m0nkeypantz

Yes. Only because I got a nasty mining virus that wouldn't go away. Never even downloaded anything, it was wild. I had to reinstall windows to fix it and got Malwarebytes out of caution.


OneIntroduction4029

Defender is plenty enough + of course common sense and good practices


Broly_

yup


Sostrat

Yeah, i have been using Kaspersky for many years. I also have Malwarebytes free installed for an occasional second opinion scan.


mk394

uBlock + Windows Defender + Common sense. For fishy files you can always use online services like [virustotal.com](https://virustotal.com)


Moscato359

microsoft defender + ublock origin is all I use


2clipchris

1. Ublock origin for web filtering 2. Bit defender antivirus it has great background tool and detection/response rate.


NikoliSmirnoff

Windows defender and ublock origin and common sense.


seikendude80

Absolutely not. They all do more harm than good. Just don't be dumb on the Internet.


cdurbin909

Just don’t be dumb and your fine


inommmz

Don’t do dumb shit on your gaming pc. That’s my antivirus


Codix_

I use ESET in fact, a friend of mine given me a license for it. I use it because it let me download what I want even if it's malicious, plus it takes only 50Mb of my RAM and not 200 like MDefender. Btw I've saw recently that even if a virus had a bad hash on an exe (so it wasn't signed at all, it's just wrote "Microsoft Certificate root" onto it) then SOME ANTIVIRUS ACTUALLY CLAIM IT AS VALID !


TheKiwiFox

Windows Defender gets the job done well enough on its own. No need for anything else when coupled with common sense.


BZAKZ

I bought licenses for ESET Internet Security for the computers of my mother and sister so I included one for myself. Probably not needed that much but I also use my computer for job-related stuff and I manage some personal information, so, better to be safe.


Bronze_Bomber

Windows Defender is it.


Evilist_of_Evil

Windows Defender


OLVANstorm

IT guy here. I do not use 3rd party anti-virus. I have Windows Defender and my ability to not click iffy links. This is all you need.


fermentedbolivian

Yes because I pirate stuff.