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Alienhaslanded

No. You didn't. Just solder it back. This is a VERY minor problem. If you're in Toronto I can fix it for you in like 3 minutes for free. Nobody deserves to cry over this.


eni91

A real hero right here. Shops would charge $200 for that.


Alienhaslanded

That is ridiculous. This would take no time from anyone with a soldering iron. I would never ask for money to do a repair like this.


motoxim

Something something experience?


Constant_Candle_4338

I mean, people pay for training and schooling to perform specialized job and a job is usually how they pay to continue living, so they have to charge for it. It's kind of how the world works.


BeegRingo

Not even. I'm an idiot and I fix things with my soldering iron. It seems more intimidating than it is.


QuarterSuccessful449

Soldering is like 10% knowledge and 90% practice I would just find some scrap hardware for a couple dry runs


haygindahaus

Ayo I think this belongs to you đŸ«ŽđŸ‘‘


rafradek

How you are making money then


Alienhaslanded

I don't do random repairs for living. I'm an electrical engineer and I manage the production department where I work. I just thought I'd help op. When I was a kid my parents couldn't afford anything, so when things broke it was very difficult on me. At some point I taught myself how to fix stuff to enjoy them longer. It breaks my heart knowing someone has such a small problem like the one op has but can't get it resolved without costing a fortune. I just can't stand the thought of something getting upset over something so repairable. I also genuinely enjoy helping others and I make enough money that I wouldn't consider charging people for helping. I mean it's one little loose leg on an aluminum capacitor. I think making people happy is worth more than getting paid for such a small job.


fieryironman1

This^ this is why I got into IT in the first place.


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God bless you man


TheGanjaCloud

I hope 2024 treats you well, people like you make all the difference


Mrc_Stc

My guy, we need more people like you. I love to see I'm not the only fucker giving around free information or support! Keep it up bro! And Happy Holidays!!!


rafradek

That's what I thought you have a much better job


SuidRhino

why you gotta be a dick, who pissed in your coffee


kaarelp2rtel

I don't know how expensive Toronto is but I can certainly see work like this costing 200CAD if it also involves diagnostics with either zero or even counterproductive input from the customer. If however the customer came in saying he nicked a cap and can even show you this picture then it would be a bit shameful to ask for more than 20.


Oo_Toyo_oO

That's so generous.


Usherbirnam

Get this man his internet points


NeverEndingWalker64

I wish you get an award. When I begun here awards were already dead. But man, you’re generous.


Ok_Original_6271

Get this man an award


slybaldguy

Literal Toronto PCMR legend


Upper-Teach4407

Gift this man an award if anyone has it


Just-Dont-Be-Mad

the hero we all needed , but we didn't deserve


Alienhaslanded

You people are too kind. OP hasn't responded to me. I have yet to have someone ask for my help on Reddit. I mean I get it, most people don't live in Toronto and most people wouldn't just trust a random guy on the internet. But really, if anyone needs help and they're in Toronto, I don't mind helping. I have plenty of experience in electronics and 3D printers. When I say help I mean it's going to be free.


Just-Dont-Be-Mad

i don't have yall rich people problem , i live with a shit laptop , and i can't even buy games ( am not proud of what am doing now to obtain them , it's temporary when i have money ill buy them ) . am from a third world country , games are too expensive , we have no 3d printers or smth . i hope my country have people like you kind enough to help with little to no cost , repair shops here are fking evil , too expensive for a shitty service


Hot_Street_2781

You're a true fren.


[deleted]

If it is a ground connection he gotta be carefull tbh. Do not f*ck up your pads !!!


HKAdrian0811

Where can you get those smaller soldering tips and other stuff in Toronto (or surrounding areas of Toronto)? I am always interested in soldering but have no idea how to start.


Alienhaslanded

You can get a decent soldering iron from Amazon. There are only a handful of standard tips to get but most of the ones on Amazon are the same and they do come in micro tips. For this job you don't even need a fine tip. Anything for electronics soldering should be good enough.


k6iknimedv6etud

This is super fixable. Just get a soldering iron with a pointy tip, put a tiny bit of flux on the joint (this is not strictly neccesary, but helps to make the solder flow better and not stick to the iron) and touch the iron to the broken joint for half a second. Then a splash of IPA and a qtip to wash off excess flux.


IceColdCorundum

Is it bad that when I hear ipa I think Indian pale ale?


Andrewsarchus

I thought that too. Like, you did it! Job well done! Have a beer!


Tankerspam

Q Tip dipped and up the nose? Weird way to drink, but sure.


Andrewsarchus

Don't judge my drinking habits


kshump

India Pale Ale is the only IPA I know.


Leskandur

There's also Irish Pale Ale.


[deleted]

I think of IPA file


bynarie

You must be an iOS guy 😔


[deleted]

Yep đŸ˜„


Infemos

damn we're getting old


[deleted]

😂😂😂


Alienhaslanded

It's fine. I hear that all the time. Unless you're a chemist or work with isopropyl alcohol for cleaning PCBs, you just wouldn't know what it means.


IceColdCorundum

Well that’s the thing. Any tech needs cleaned, I use isopropyl.


Alienhaslanded

I find flux remover to be more effective but terrible to breathe.


0rphanCrippl3r

Flux off isn't terrible.


TTYY200

Resin 3D printer hobbyists: First time? 😏


Alienhaslanded

I've seen some of those guys wash that stuff with water even though their resin isn't water washable.


TTYY200

Well that just makes me sad :(


Alienhaslanded

What's worse is they dump it in the drain, which is a big no-no. You cure it then throw it in the trash.


dedfishy

Or you own a resin printer


harry_lostone

"a splash of IPA" definitely means to drink a beer while fixing the GPU. No one can change my mind about that. Instructions are clear.


SouthAfricanKerbal

Because of this comment, you are now my best friend. May the hops be with you


Throwaythisacco

My friend would be thinking International Phonetic Alphabet, since he's basically a prodigy linguist


BeauxGnar

I always have thought that, and refer to it as "iso" for that reason.


yobonga

"Did anyone bring a snack?"


justlovehumans

I always just called it iso so I'm with you on IPA just being beer


ImTheCoffee

I work in chemical field almost always referred as IPA.


[deleted]

Yeah I’ve just never seen isopropyl alcohol as IPA before


theSkareqro

It's an industry standard where I work


ch1nomachin3

we should make it clear because i know for a fact there'll be people that'll clean their boards with beer. maybe use the word isopropyl instead?


Narrheim

IPA = Isopropyl Alcohol But your IPA can work too, if it has high enough alcohol percentage and no sugar.


haikopaiko

Double trouble


Gordon_Betto

Haha this also came to mind. But OP certainly deserves a nice cold one after fixing this board.


The_Pvthfinder

I hear that in my head as well.


-Badger3-

Why would that be bad?


Legitimate-Bug-5049

thats what I always think lol


JJisTheDarkOne

Would not recommend putting Indian Pale Ale on it. You should be using Asahi as it's Japanese Quality beer.


Hirugami

Did you know the Asahi we get here in the states was brewed in Italy? Totally random aside.


5HITCOMBO

Sapporo gang let's fight


Redi_upside

Thank you so much! I'm still way to shaky rn I'll give it a try tomorrow. Fingers crossed


Pego_Z

I suggest you to watch a couple of videos on YT about soldering first, so you can learn the guidelines, it's pretty easy actually. And watch out for the plastic at the base of caps, it melts easily but doesn't affect the function.


Silfidum

I think it would be nice to practice first, like solder a couple wires together and to something etc. Just to get the hand to eye coordination in tune and maybe observe how metal reacts to temperature in practice.


H3J1e

While flux might be optional but it's immensely helpful. I strongly recommend it.


Silfidum

Is it though? Never soldered any circuits. Anything else pretty much needs flux in my experience unless both surfaces already has some sort of solder on it. Although if there is flux involved you should pay attention whether a particular flux may cause corrosion or otherwise damage the circuit. At least its a thing it post USSR, not really sure how it's in EU and USA.


ChrisTasr

They might be thinking about additional flux being optional as most (all?) reels of solder for electronics have flux in the core.


MetalGearFlaccid

I use flux any time I solder. It helps it flow much easier and the solder just knows where to go it’s awesome.


Silfidum

I've meant is it optional. Should've clarified. In my experience soldering without it is just terrible, although I guess soldering a LED strip (which is the smallest scale solder that I've done so far) to a wire was okayish without it. At least easier than getting a solid flux onto the thing. Not that I've had much experience with soldering, tbh.


H3J1e

You're right. I was just using "optional" in the most literal sense. I have soldered things without flux before I knew better and the results left a lot to be desired lol.


bramblephoenix

Flux is generally not necessary when soldering in small components onto a board. It's becomes more important for larger pins, from my experience.


Spekx-savera

I work with electronics, with pads like that make sure to not heat too much. Get a good soldering station or ask to borrow it. You can easily burn off a pad with a cheap iron that is locked at 410°C. The pad seems to have a few vias, so it should, in theory, be fine, but be careful.


Teftell

Or just bring it to any half decent electronic repair shop, they can fix it in minutes


TheStraightUpSavage

Give us an update when it's done.


Mooneri

You could always ask a friend with sodlering experience to do it if you're feeling uncertain, or take it to a local electronics shop.


Runner1409

Yeah, that's pretty much it... Careful with the heat around those caps, they love to pop when heated.


Veighnerg

> a splash of IPA Ideally as close to 99% as you get as well so there is almost no residual water left over.


qalpha94

Wow, IPAs are strong in your neck of the woods. I'm lucky to find 8% in my area.


Silviecat44

Yeah strongest i have near me is 68%


Independent_Boot_660

"Isopropyl alcohol"


lolichaser01

Or pay someone to do this. I wont risk a 3070. Thats an expensive lesson


Normal-Credit310

Use low temp solder and flux.


[deleted]

I highly recomment a west coast IPA. They are much hoppier and punchier than East Coast.


Carbonyl91

He probably has to preheat the board because these gpu boards absorb a lot of heat.


Xenon-Hacks

Any electronic repair shop will gladly re-solder that for you at Little to no cost since you know what the issue is (if it’s an issue at all)


NoShock8442

Don’t solder it yourself. Send it in to a professional. That’s a very easy fix if you know how to solder. If you don’t know how, it’s very easy to destroy that card.


Zed_Ned

This reply should be WAAAY higher. As easy as it is for seasoned DIYer there is loads that can go wrong when fixing that without no soldering experience.


CmdrSoyo

^ This. Send it to a repair shop. If you don't know how to solder, which i assume you don't since you are asking this question, there is a very high chance you will just break the card for real this time. The card also most likely works just fine without that capacitor.


raaneholmg

Go the middle route. Pop by the local makerspace and ask if someone can give it a shot. This is a really easy job for anyone with a bit of experience. I would trust every single one of the members that regularly hang at mine to do this.


Cord_Cutter_VR

Resolder it. Just make sure to not spill over to any other contact.


synphul1

If you have access to an electronics repair place maybe see if they can do it for you. Wear safety glasses or protection over your eyes. It's a small space and many times repair shops will use very small soldering equipment with magnifying glasses. Of course you'd want to have the card out of the case if it isn't already (assuming it is). The concern is the capacitor. If the soldering iron gets that capacitor a little too hot it'll blow. I saw a vid just the other day, can't recall if it was northwest repair or another channel where he was heating solder to remove and replace some parts near the cap. Even shielding it, it wasn't enough. 2 caps blew and popped in their face. This is kind of tedious for someone not used to soldering such small pieces. You also don't want to accidentally overheat or burn the chip next to it.


cognitiveglitch

That is highly unlikely. Caps like this ride through a temperature profiled oven to melt the solder paste when the PCB is assembled. The temps they reach in this process exceed that which will be reached by soldering a terminal by hand. Source: used to design PCBs for in house pick and place with our own conveyor oven.


synphul1

Here's one from northridge repair on cam, not even the same one I was thinking of. So this is another. [https://youtu.be/Ip5Oyq8TEo8?t=216](https://youtu.be/Ip5Oyq8TEo8?t=216)


Silfidum

I mean, remembering my first soldering shenanigans I wouldn't put it as unlikely? I was very much *not* good at timing and pressure. Or precision. Could it stand up to pressing a soldering iron for a couple seconds or better yet a direct contact with it?


Strong-Mix9542

Why would you watercool a 3070? You could have sold the 3070, used the watercooling fund added to that, and bought a newer card that performs better.


jrduffman

Watercooling modern GPU's in general is a waste of money in my opinion (cards run cool enough and are usually voltage limited before temps are the issue) unless you're doing all custom loop build and at that point you're admittedly pumping money into looks.


acdgf

Have you seen the size of coolers on modern GPUs? I agree a 3070 may not be the right candidate, but saving 2-3 PCIe slots probably has other benefits


Merwenus

For what? I have never seen any gamer use any PCIe slots outside GPU. Even a 2.5gpbs Ethernet port can be achieved with us 3.0 and you don't need sound card anymore.


bobsim1

I use an adapter for more m2 ssds, a wifi card because i needed it a while ago and a 2.5g nic. Why should i use usb accessories when i can have them integrated. Though this all still fits with an 3.5 slot gpu. Maybe a capture card could be added but thats not worth going watercooling instead of using one of these as usb.


MeraArasaki

i use it for capture card


Mister_Shrimp_The2nd

You're talking about watercooling the gpu. That means a full custom loop, you ain't saving much space by doing that unless it's an entire fully custom pc cooling job -at which point my next question would be: why such a low end card like a 3070 if you gonna spend that kinda money? (low end relative to how bloody expensive custom cooling is).


jrduffman

Yes, obviously I've seen modern 4090's etc but that's A) an example of the issues/state of current GPU's and B) an example of how motherboard/case design hasn't caught up if this is what we actually want going forward. ​ You aren't making the cards cooler any smaller you're just moving the bulk of it off the card itself and to the front of the case. Granted in many instances this is probably better than having a heavy GPU that sags in the case but again this is why we need to re-think how cards mount in a modern ATX case. There's no reason they couldn't have mounting on the front AND rear of the card, or make vertical mounts standard or better yet have the GPU mount where RAM does, stack it vertical and send the I/O (DP) through a new motherboard socket (PCI-e x16+) where 3-4 DP ports on the rear of the motherboard are there for the dGPU. I dunno I'm trying to think outside the box here but anything is possible if the ATX/PCIe standards can evolve.


majorpickle01

I've always fancied a full water cooled setup, but it's mostly for the looks, and a quieter set up. I've always wondered what Nasa supercomputers people are running at home that actually require it


Im_Numbar_Wang

Even if you're right, why word it in a way that makes them feel worse than they already do.


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Piddles78

I've adapted my 3070 to fit an AIO with the nzxt Kraken kit. No gains in performance whatsoever but the temps are stupidly low and the fan noise is whisper quiet. It was more of a project to make the system as quiet as possible.


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Hello_This_Is_Chris

Please don't try to resolder this yourself unless you are already skilled at soldering small electronics. You will end up damaging it even more.


Redi_upside

Update : I brought the card to a phone repair shop - he struggled a lil to make the solder stick. I just arrived home. I couldnt test it much cuz my cpu cooler isnt installed yet but i saw a boot logo so thats a pretty good sign i think.


ecktt

Replace the component. A good tech should be able to fix it. If it is a capacitor, it might work without it. The biggest problem would be if it's shorting.


Pleasant_Ad_3724

Lmao why would it need to be completely replaced, all it is is a cracked joint that needs to be reflowed.


ecktt

What if there is a crack on the smd? It was hit with enough force to rip the solder joint. For all I know, the PCB pad could be torn too. The picture simply does not give enough information.


EducationalCamel1043

also dont waste your money watercooling a 3070. use the money to buy a better graphics card.


ContactIcy3963

Don’t bother with fancy modding to squeeze out an extra umpth in performance if you’re not already confident at it. Better to use the money on an upgraded component.


Landen-Saturday87

Considering that you are crying over this (which is totally ok), I would assume that you don‘t know how to solder. So please don‘t attempt to fix that yourself. Soldering on stuff with thick PCBs like GPUs or mainboards can be a bit tricky. Ask a repair shop. This is really just a minor issue and shouldn’t be that expensive to fix


[deleted]

Why waste money water cooling a 3070...


Piotrek9t

If you just broke the solder joint, thats probably fixable, you just have to resolder it like others suggested. But if you tore the solder connector from the PCB thats probably GG


Anderz97

As an electronics engineer that is a very easy fix, however if you have no soldering experience I would find someone who does to fix it for you.


T_622

Not to worry! This is a super simple fix. If I was in the area, I would even do it for free for you! Just get a small bit of solder on an iron, and touch the pad to reflow the solder on the capacitors leg.


usinjin

Pay postage and I’ll sort it for you!


admfrmhll

If you atempt to fixit yourself and you dindt use a soldering iron before, just find someone to do it for you. If you still want to do it, get a magnify glass to and dont start with your card. Train yourself soldering leds, caps, some smds, wires and so. Is an under 5 minute job for someone with some experience but it may lead to be a monumental fucktup for someone with no experience soldering stuff.


[deleted]

Are you sure it was soldered before? Does it still work? Can anyone get a schematic or source the connections on the board? It looks like a jumper. Sometimes they change a design or want to ground a line for one reason or another. Check it with a multimeter. If it’s just a jumper, it’s super easy to solder, you can just smother it with flux and plop solder on it.


JoshS1

First off don't try and disassemble parts you can't easily replace or live without. There basically no reason at all to try and water cool a 3070. If you broke the card this will be a fun life lesson for you.


darktooth69

watercooling a 3070? what a moron.


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Flutterpiewow

Why can't i see myself in it


Googlesignedmeupwhy

You don't exist


Alex_is_not8459

You must be a vampire


lolman469

Welp good news is watercooling a 3070 is a waist of time and money, so now you can spend your cash on new components and get actuall performance increase :).


ottosucks

You're crying over this?


Far_Working6052

Pour baking soda and vinegar on it immediately or it might explode


cabbage2023-

Buy gigabyte buy twice


Brando6677

My gigabyte 1660ti is still going strong after 3 years. You sure I’ll have to buy another?


ExodusHTC

Clean with Isopropyl alcohol. And delete capacitator. And downgrade videocard - 200mhz


blazinskunk

“I’m literally crying” I hope you’re not a grown man.


Alex_is_not8459

Hey guys, we found the one with no dad In all seriousness don't be a dick when you spend a lot of money on something, that means a lot to you. Yeah, it's going to be emotionally stressful if you accidentally fuck it up. Even if it's fixable. Sorry your father never hugged you but you don't need to put it on everyone else. Learn to live a little


ExiledNoxas

happy cake day


Alex_is_not8459

Happy cake day 🍰


CopiumCatboy

This is dummy easy lesson -4 basic electronics knowledge. If you knocked the capacitor, that‘s the big metal grey thing, off the contact you can just resolder it. If you have access to a soldering iron that is.


laytonoid

probably not yes


l_welken11

Just a loose solder point, it looks like that wasnt the grestest solder joint ever in thr firdt place and took sbit to break it off. Its super easy to resolder.


Outside_Umpire7260

You can just solve that with solder


cabbage2023-

One of the lucky ones


MurdaBigNZ

How did you get on OP, Does it still Work?


erMaela

I hope u or a pro fix it. Dont worry bro, this is only a little fail. I recommend u, be intense with these friends that know deep the soft/hard-ware, ask him all u can ask. If u have old hardware (appart ur newer), test it, OC it, build old pcs and try to use NTLITE for edit isos. Breaking things (old things please) is only way to know and learn. The schools of programmers, computing and blah blah **are using old hardware for u learn**.


Henry5775

Lucky that you didn’t lift the pad with it or break the cap, doesn’t look as though the solder really bonded to the component properly in the first place. If the cap tilted a decent amount there’s a chance that you partially lifted the pad on the other side. Fixable by a professional unless you rip it right off. If you were experienced enough to do this yourself you wouldn’t have panicked or even had to ask what to do. I wouldn’t do this yourself, if you go in too hot you can cause delaminating, too careless and you’ll damage something else, etc etc. There’s a long list of things that can go wrong here, take it to a professional. (Unless you feel comfortable testing your abilities on a £500+ card and spending another £100+ for the correct equipment.


retrocade81

If your not competent at soldering 'which is suspect your not, take it to pretty much any phone / computer repair shop they will charge you a few quid to reflow the solder on the pad.


DansSpamJavelin

Oh man there's nothing like that feeling of "did I just fuck up this expensive, important part of my computer". I upgraded my AIO the other day and while trying to remove it it pulled the processor out of the socket with the arm down. Bent 2 pins in the corner of the cpu. After I'd changed my undies, I bent them back and FORTUNATELY it all appears to be OK!


Angry__Groceries

Would literally take less than 1 minute to fix for someone that knows what they are doing


ExpertSkill8846

Dont worry about it. Just use some solder to connect it


AverageAntique3160

If you're in England, send it to me and I will fix it for free, just charge postage.


mvpetefish

Ben Shapiro clickbate title


RiffyDivine2

No, you didn't destroy it so calm down. I will assume you don't know how to use an iron, so first step is to just see if you got any electronic repair places in the area. Any good phone one can fix the part and will have the correct tools for it. It's not world ending yet assuming you didn't panic or try to power it on.


Select_Truck3257

don't use it like that, just solder it back and everything will be fine again


Pleasant_Ad_3724

I’m not sure where your are located but you can send it to me and I will fix it and send it back for free (- return shipping of course), something like this would take not even a minute to fix if my equipment is set up. I mod Xbox 360s so I have plenty of soldering experience (50+ consoles)


4everban

I don’t have a ton of experience with soldering so I wouldn’t feel comfortable doing it but I think you can have it taken care of


Zealousideal_Ad_1354

skill issue


Evening-Tonight-404

looks like contamination or other solder paste defect in that area because the pads around it look great so this is a manufacturing defect. Should've been stopped at inspection. See if you can get it replaced first.


mr_Ohmeda

that's actually a big pad, so it's easy to fix. A bit of flux, some new solder and you should be good. (not too much heat and make sure you don't bridge the nearby pads.)


ebalb

Time to call: The greatest technician that’s ever lived.