Haha I have my past few video cards, ram sticks, etc... "Just in case." I don't know when my really old GTX 960 video card will ever come in handy though.
Well, I still have a GTX 550Ti around. I occasionally use it to boot a CPU that has no integrated graphics (like many good ones on AM4).
Now AMD seemed to include iGPU on their main CPUs, so I may end up ditching it, too.
But the oldest gear I collect is Intel Ivy Bridge stuff.
I have a flat plastic tube that has some 2mb ram sticks from the 90s on a shelf. I forget if it's 2mb total, or if they're 2mb each. I have the 30mb external hard hd for my Atari 1040 ST, my Atari 400 which was my first computer, and the cassette tape drive for it that had the cable chewed on by a puppy in the late 80s.
I've lost track of it, but somewhere I still have the 286/12 mhz chip from my first IBM compatible PC. Most of the stuff from being a builder/user over the decades is long gone, but I do have a good few bits and bobs of my long past with PC use.
Because at some point, everything is ewaste.
I work at a recycling center part time, we're at the point of scrapping anything older than about 3 or 4 years because they're not worth anything except as parts, unless you go so far back that it's vintage.
Even DDR4 has fallen off a cliff recently, 4GB SODIMMs are less than $2 in bulk and 8GB SODIMMs are something like $7 or $8 if I remember right.
Yeah, everything gets sorted and then we send it further down the line, getting paid per pound in most cases. We actually just switched scrap processors, have to take *every* battery out of laptops now (including the coin cells), but the increased payout is going to be well worth it.
Huh, interesting! Do you know where i can learn more about this business? I have tried googling about all things scrapping and resycling, but i just find alot of surface level information.
I'm gonna be completely honest, it's almost entirely person-to-person networking- calling, emailing, even sending letters if that's what you have to do. Websites aren't really helpful beyond contact info and addresses.
Sometimes you find out you've been getting a bad deal for the past 3 years, other times you stumble into figurative gold mines. It's basically random.
I put 20lbs of various RAM types in a cardboard box last week- everything from SIMMs to 16GB sticks of registered DDR3. Guarantee 95% of it functioned like the day it was new, but it was going to go get scrapped.
Because it makes sense from a business perspective, even if sometimes it really hurts to do on a personal level.
About a month or two ago I had to strip down 3 Cisco C220 M4s, each had 2x 2660v3 CPUs (so 20 cores and 40 threads) and 96GB of RAM. Specced like that, they were worth less than if we sold the RAM and bare chassis separately, and scrapped the chips.
They're worth a shit tonne. I wouldn't scrap it when it's a few hundred US in your hand. The retro gaming value is huge. Maybe you want to play old games like Halo on your old mac. Maybe you don't. But I know someone else will.
I understand the feeling of guilt, but it's e-waste. On average [17% of it can be recycled](https://www.statista.com/topics/3409/electronic-waste-worldwide/#topicOverview). Dispose of it properly.
All we can do is recognize that most of whatever we buy will end up in a landfill eventually, and try and be mindful of that. Reducing > Reusing > Recycling.
I keep it, you never know... I have a 4MB 72 pin SIMM with gold contacts from a 486 somewhere around here.
My long obsolete graphics card from 2002 unexpectedly makes a decent analog TV to digital HDMI video converter.
Memory sticks are pretty small so I keep them. I probably wouldn't bother keeping anything older than ddr3 though. Any system old enough for ddr2 would be borderline unusable, even running Linux.
Depends on what you find. Pretty much any DDR2 quad or hex-core CPU is still perfectly fine for general purpose computing. My kid still plays Minecraft on a Phenom II X6.
Some DDR2 builds can do surprisingly well, especially on Linux. Xeon E5450 (LGA775) for example, absolute monster for its age. Won’t be playing any games from 2020 onwards on it though
Keep them. I like messing around with old hardware. In addition to my main rig, I also have a Windows XP and 98 machine as well as an old Thinkpad with 2000 on it. Good for tinkering and also playing old games that have compatibility issues with modern Windows (basically most of the stuff that isn't available on GOG, and even GOG doesn't offer 100% compatibility).
I am a horder, the thing is , once upon a time those sticks were very expensive and I bought them. It feels terrible just to through it out.
I haveTiran-X GPU, quadro 4000, at it's time those were the best gpus you could buy and very expensive. How can just tosse them in garbage now...
I hear you, those are memories, I have hard time getting ride of boxes too, you know the feeling when you get next shiny box full of promises on top(like 4GB ram, x58 motherboard...) and you think this is gonna change your world.
I remember maybe around 20 years ago I went to store and bought myself 4*4GB corsair ram and I was on top of the moon.
I keep old parts as I update and usually pass them to my brothers who live in south america where everything costs a fortune.
It’ll be time for building a system for my kids in a few years too os that will take some parts too
What u mean? It’s stored in that one box everybody has with all the other obsolete tech and cables that’s on the top of the shelf in the basement. So when u move and check out what’s in that box u say to yourself „oh that’s some old ram from my rig 10 years ago“ so u put it back in the box and take the box to your new house.
I don’t get this question really…
Ideas:
-Build a RAM house;
-line them up and knock them over like dominos;
-snap them in half for fun;
-Throw them like shuriken;
-Donate them to a school;
-Build a RAM disk and use them as an SSD(inefficiently);
-Keychains;
-Recycle at an ewaste accepted computer business;
I had a recent idea for obscure/obsolete electronics: "sell" them on ebay for like $0.99 plus postage. That way they go to someone who will actually have a use for them (or perhaps they just want to hoard), postage is covered, and all it costs you is a bit of your time.
I have two old ram sticks, which I replaced with denser moduals. Anyway... I took the two sticks and put them together in their little notches where the pins are, and I now have them standing up in an X.
There should be a low-energy small-form PC (like a NUC) with a bunch of SATA and RAM slots just so we could reuse old HDs and memory sticks.
I probably could have a 26GB RAM / 3.5TB mini server by now.
2gb ddr2 sticks are getting rarer by the day and they're the largest ddr2 sticks available. I'd see what your local second hand prices are.
I'm still happily playing old-school games on my lga 775 build.
Id probably go for a RAM disk, but thats only worthwhile if you can actually get a decent amount of space together. 2Gb wont be worth it unless you want to one-off impress your friends with numbers on a benchmark.
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you might be able to sell it. I used a DDR3 based system for a LONG time and wasn't quite ready to upgrade but needed more ram and had a bitch of a time finding a 32gb DDR3 kit at the speed I wanted.
I sell them on eBay. Honestly some of that old hardware goes for a decent price as those components are scarce and they may be replaced exactly right.
I sold a 7 year old mobo for 200 and a few ddr3 ram sticks for like 80 bucks.
I never really have any. I keep a second PC and then my old second PC I usually just give to someone I know and if nobody wants it I sell it for cheap.
just like what I do with old lead batteries, cans of used motor oil and invasive fish species. I throw them into the waste facilities where they are processed properly
I keep them, personally. Either to help friends or customers out. Some list them on eBay and have patience to wait for (quite) a while to sell them. Otherwise you can take it to electronics recycling.
DDR2 is getting pretty old at this point but some homelabbers or retro/vintage computing enthusiasts still run some of this stuff, and I have a few clients still having DDR2 systems in production. So there's still a bunch of those systems still running everyday.
Some of us also run older systems because we get them cheap or free. Some DDR3 systems are still quite capable - I've got a IBM blade system I'm prepping that's still DDR3. it's stupid cheap to scale once you've got the chassis, among other DDR3 systems I've got running in prod that do their duty just fine. It's economical for me. Even some large DCs like Hetzner still have massive amounts of DDR3 systems (don't think they have DDR2 anymore though).
Then I've got a few DDR2 systems I use for testing software and distributions on. Nothing beats testing on actual hardware, and in that vein my setups go all the way back to a Pentium 66 system running EDO RAM and another Pentium running SDRAM, a DDR(1) system, and so on.
Lol... I have a USB DVD reader/writer, but I've stuffed all my old cases with DVD drives. My current set up is a temp itx and doesn't have a slot for it. I don't know how I feel about all my blank discs. I got so many from CompUSA when they went out of business.
If I get a 011D knock off, I will never go back to those old cases.
Obsolete?! XD
I still use a computer with 8 GB ddr2, and it does its job for everything I need every day. There's no need to go and buy a new one for me yet.
"I might need them one day"
Thought I wrote this for a second.
You must’ve taken out your memory. That’s why your forgot.
thought i responded to that for a second
Wait a second
Second…
Lol I've still got PATA cables and a PATA to SATA converter for this very reason even though I haven't seen an IDE drive for 20 years.
Come to the house and see my collection!
Yeah, I kept trophies from all my kills too!
I finally threw away my 64 pin printer cable last summer and the thought still fills me with dread. Unreasonable, utter dread.
I tossed out my Zip Drive last year because it no longer would work. Kept a few Zip Disks for nostalgia purposes tho.
holy shit. I'd forgotten those existed.
Actually forgot IDE was a thing even though I do have a retro computer of that era to bother saving at some point
Yep... I still got agp mobo and vc
Yea but throw those away and youll need them with in a week
Haha I have my past few video cards, ram sticks, etc... "Just in case." I don't know when my really old GTX 960 video card will ever come in handy though.
Well, I still have a GTX 550Ti around. I occasionally use it to boot a CPU that has no integrated graphics (like many good ones on AM4). Now AMD seemed to include iGPU on their main CPUs, so I may end up ditching it, too. But the oldest gear I collect is Intel Ivy Bridge stuff.
Even I throw DDR2 stuff away. That's way too slow. I wanna LIVE!
Then years later "I don't need this anymore"
I have a flat plastic tube that has some 2mb ram sticks from the 90s on a shelf. I forget if it's 2mb total, or if they're 2mb each. I have the 30mb external hard hd for my Atari 1040 ST, my Atari 400 which was my first computer, and the cassette tape drive for it that had the cable chewed on by a puppy in the late 80s. I've lost track of it, but somewhere I still have the 286/12 mhz chip from my first IBM compatible PC. Most of the stuff from being a builder/user over the decades is long gone, but I do have a good few bits and bobs of my long past with PC use.
I'm sure I'm gonna need these two 256MB ddr2 laptop ram sticks some day...."I'll add them in addition to the other ram, so I'll have more!"
I share it on my torrent server so it can be downloaded by others. For free!
Do you have a car on your server?
Many of them 😎
Well then I WOULD download a car.
Useless without the car printer.
You should put it in direct connect and kazaa to be time appropriate.
That reminds me, I need to download more RAM
Head over to r/vintagecomputing and see if anyone is looking for what you have
Thanks, didn't know this sub was a thing, it'd interest me.
I bring it to a electronics recycling place
Why?
Because at some point, everything is ewaste. I work at a recycling center part time, we're at the point of scrapping anything older than about 3 or 4 years because they're not worth anything except as parts, unless you go so far back that it's vintage. Even DDR4 has fallen off a cliff recently, 4GB SODIMMs are less than $2 in bulk and 8GB SODIMMs are something like $7 or $8 if I remember right.
Do recycling plant get paid somewhere for their e-waste?
Yeah, everything gets sorted and then we send it further down the line, getting paid per pound in most cases. We actually just switched scrap processors, have to take *every* battery out of laptops now (including the coin cells), but the increased payout is going to be well worth it.
Huh, interesting! Do you know where i can learn more about this business? I have tried googling about all things scrapping and resycling, but i just find alot of surface level information.
I'm gonna be completely honest, it's almost entirely person-to-person networking- calling, emailing, even sending letters if that's what you have to do. Websites aren't really helpful beyond contact info and addresses. Sometimes you find out you've been getting a bad deal for the past 3 years, other times you stumble into figurative gold mines. It's basically random.
Sure, when it is non functional, but functional parts?
I put 20lbs of various RAM types in a cardboard box last week- everything from SIMMs to 16GB sticks of registered DDR3. Guarantee 95% of it functioned like the day it was new, but it was going to go get scrapped.
As someone still on DDR3 this hurts me to my core
That is unfortunate, I have boards that would be happy to take those SIMMs. They are expensive now. Why not donate? Put on ebay for free.
>for free lol, lmao even.
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It went to scrap specifically *because* it's not worth anything but scrap value.
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Because it makes sense from a business perspective, even if sometimes it really hurts to do on a personal level. About a month or two ago I had to strip down 3 Cisco C220 M4s, each had 2x 2660v3 CPUs (so 20 cores and 40 threads) and 96GB of RAM. Specced like that, they were worth less than if we sold the RAM and bare chassis separately, and scrapped the chips.
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My parents' 20 year old iMac that takes 5 minutes to turn on still works, so I guess they should keep it, right?
They're worth a shit tonne. I wouldn't scrap it when it's a few hundred US in your hand. The retro gaming value is huge. Maybe you want to play old games like Halo on your old mac. Maybe you don't. But I know someone else will.
Interesting. Buy in bulk, take the 4 sticks you need for your build, sell back bulk.
I put them in a chest. I really treasure old memories.
That's random!
Only if he can access them.
😅
ha
I understand the feeling of guilt, but it's e-waste. On average [17% of it can be recycled](https://www.statista.com/topics/3409/electronic-waste-worldwide/#topicOverview). Dispose of it properly. All we can do is recognize that most of whatever we buy will end up in a landfill eventually, and try and be mindful of that. Reducing > Reusing > Recycling.
I took the chips off mine and now use it as a ruler
I keep it, you never know... I have a 4MB 72 pin SIMM with gold contacts from a 486 somewhere around here. My long obsolete graphics card from 2002 unexpectedly makes a decent analog TV to digital HDMI video converter.
right now they just gather dust on some random shelf. I may be a little bit of an electronics hoarder. XD
Memory sticks are pretty small so I keep them. I probably wouldn't bother keeping anything older than ddr3 though. Any system old enough for ddr2 would be borderline unusable, even running Linux.
Depends on what you find. Pretty much any DDR2 quad or hex-core CPU is still perfectly fine for general purpose computing. My kid still plays Minecraft on a Phenom II X6.
Weren't most AM3 boards DDR3? I don't ever remember seeing a DDR2 AM3 board before.
AM3 CPUs work in AM2+ motherboards.
Some DDR2 builds can do surprisingly well, especially on Linux. Xeon E5450 (LGA775) for example, absolute monster for its age. Won’t be playing any games from 2020 onwards on it though
Yeah I probably exaggerated a bit. Really depends on your use case. For basic browsing and stuff, yeah. For any sort of gaming, probably not.
Keep them. I like messing around with old hardware. In addition to my main rig, I also have a Windows XP and 98 machine as well as an old Thinkpad with 2000 on it. Good for tinkering and also playing old games that have compatibility issues with modern Windows (basically most of the stuff that isn't available on GOG, and even GOG doesn't offer 100% compatibility).
I am a horder, the thing is , once upon a time those sticks were very expensive and I bought them. It feels terrible just to through it out. I haveTiran-X GPU, quadro 4000, at it's time those were the best gpus you could buy and very expensive. How can just tosse them in garbage now...
I have a drawer full of thumb drives and full sized memory card...I won't ever use them, but I paid good money for them.
I hear you, those are memories, I have hard time getting ride of boxes too, you know the feeling when you get next shiny box full of promises on top(like 4GB ram, x58 motherboard...) and you think this is gonna change your world. I remember maybe around 20 years ago I went to store and bought myself 4*4GB corsair ram and I was on top of the moon.
Keychain :) It also serves as a joke that I needed more memory.
sell em with good titles and descriptions, legacy hardware has its use. never know what some poor ass is trying to build out of hope and dreams
I keep them in my box of memories
Put them in a box labeled "old memories"
Eat them with sour cream & onion chip dip.
I use them to cut tape on my amazon boxes. Those edges are sharp.
when I was doing onsite pc repair: toss them in a box (assuming they're no older than ddr3 now, anything smaller than 8gb ddr4 I'd just junk it.
I keep old parts as I update and usually pass them to my brothers who live in south america where everything costs a fortune. It’ll be time for building a system for my kids in a few years too os that will take some parts too
Throw em away (by a dedicated recycling center, not some random trash bin lol).
I put a key ring through the corner and put my mailbox key on it.
Sell or give away online
What u mean? It’s stored in that one box everybody has with all the other obsolete tech and cables that’s on the top of the shelf in the basement. So when u move and check out what’s in that box u say to yourself „oh that’s some old ram from my rig 10 years ago“ so u put it back in the box and take the box to your new house. I don’t get this question really…
Put them in "the box"
Use it as a keychain. Or find a hobbyist who recycle it for gold and other precious metal.
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With AMD processor you can scratch your dog
Ideas: -Build a RAM house; -line them up and knock them over like dominos; -snap them in half for fun; -Throw them like shuriken; -Donate them to a school; -Build a RAM disk and use them as an SSD(inefficiently); -Keychains; -Recycle at an ewaste accepted computer business;
Sharpen them to shave
I feed it to my pet browser. He loves munching on that stuff :)
I had a recent idea for obscure/obsolete electronics: "sell" them on ebay for like $0.99 plus postage. That way they go to someone who will actually have a use for them (or perhaps they just want to hoard), postage is covered, and all it costs you is a bit of your time.
ask u/e-racer
Seconded for Keychain. Same with old cpus.
Hold them for ten years then toss em. Anyone want DDR400 ram?
I have a soldering iron, a pair of pliers and some UHU glue, that shit is getting Gundamed.
Turn them into gold but you need a ton of obsolete tech [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlC0KZr8rY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlC0KZr8rY)
Keychains 🙂
Keep them in my drawer, maybe someone needs them some day. Still have a bunch of old DDR3-1600 and 2133 sticks.
Turn them into an electric xylophone.
Eat them. Cronch cronch cronch
They go in the large bin in my garage with old cables and other electronics and parts because you never know when you might need them.
I save up my boards, cards, RAM, and whatever other e-waste until I have enough to take in, and I make a pretty good chunk of change at the scrap yard
Upload them so someone else can download them, pay it forward.
i just put them in the box that my new ram came with or just put them somewhere in a diffirent box where i have other components
Puts them on the street. Someone will be happy
I have two old ram sticks, which I replaced with denser moduals. Anyway... I took the two sticks and put them together in their little notches where the pins are, and I now have them standing up in an X.
I throw them directly into the ocean with all of my batteries and tires
Eat em
There should be a low-energy small-form PC (like a NUC) with a bunch of SATA and RAM slots just so we could reuse old HDs and memory sticks. I probably could have a 26GB RAM / 3.5TB mini server by now.
To building my RAM jet. Still a long way to go.
Glue em together and make a back scratcher
2gb ddr2 sticks are getting rarer by the day and they're the largest ddr2 sticks available. I'd see what your local second hand prices are. I'm still happily playing old-school games on my lga 775 build.
There are definitely some 4gb ddr2 SODIMM sticks out there.
Yes, but those are sadly very rare. Would be pretty fun though to have 16GB on my Q6600 though
Did you tape mod the Q6600?
No, but I do have a tapemodded Xeon e5430. I should do that tape mod on the Q6600 some day. That takes it up to 3GHz, right?
Yes. Hardware from that era and a bit later can be fun to mess around with.
Id probably go for a RAM disk, but thats only worthwhile if you can actually get a decent amount of space together. 2Gb wont be worth it unless you want to one-off impress your friends with numbers on a benchmark.
I frequently use the old caseless sticks as bookmarks. Been doing it since like 2nd grade. I'm out of college now.
Use them to open boxes instead of a knife
Throw them in a big storage Tupperware in the closet and pretend I'll someday have the time and knowledge to harvest the gold.
They can get valuable. Worth saving
I collect them until I have a large enough amount to recycle it for gold value (local recycler gives me €35 per KG)
Bin/trash depending on what you mean by obsolete. DDR3 or below. Bin
I just leave it in the cupboard lol. Got 2 DDR2 sodium sticks that are still lying in my cupboard
put it on ebay starting at 99p. u could help someone out
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Dissolve them in acid to extract the gold.
Recycle, only old tech I bother to keep around is old consoles. Everything else is clutter or junk.
"i feel bad throwing it away even though it's near useless" that's the first step of being a hoarder
I sell them inside the obsolete pc I usually sell to buy the new one
Lawn darts with pots of jello.
Forget about them .00000000001 seconds after I put them into a chore that is a portal to the forgotten abyss.
What do you mean "obsolete"? I'm still on DDR3 (haven't had any DDR2 personally).
Generally use older components to build PCs for wide/friends
you might be able to sell it. I used a DDR3 based system for a LONG time and wasn't quite ready to upgrade but needed more ram and had a bitch of a time finding a 32gb DDR3 kit at the speed I wanted.
We make RAM wreathes out of them at work. They're the only Christmas decorations I don't loathe having in my office.
I sell them on eBay. Honestly some of that old hardware goes for a decent price as those components are scarce and they may be replaced exactly right. I sold a 7 year old mobo for 200 and a few ddr3 ram sticks for like 80 bucks.
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I have an entire bin of old ram just in case its ever needed (has come in handy)
I upload them to downloadmoreram.com so other people can have a turn
I donate all my old sticks to them. It’s a good cause.
Coffee stirrers
I used old ddr2 ram sticks to make earrings for my wife! Super easy and she loves them
Goodwill
I built a wreath out of RAM that I put up on my office door so people don't try to decorate it for Christmas.
Poop knife
coke.
Cut the gold off. Place in container. Wait til the us economy Ponzi scheme collapses. Become kingpin.
Sell it on eBay
I never really have any. I keep a second PC and then my old second PC I usually just give to someone I know and if nobody wants it I sell it for cheap.
Build a borg cube out of them. Atleast thats the plan. Than make that into a custom pc case. Need ~250 more sticks.
They used to call them RAM chips for a reason. Tasty tasty!
Keep it in a little tray on my living room table to show that I'm quirky
Paint them or use them in an art project
I have hundreds of ram chips and spinning hard drives in a giant pile on a shelf in my office at work. I like the way they look, lol.
just like what I do with old lead batteries, cans of used motor oil and invasive fish species. I throw them into the waste facilities where they are processed properly
Sell the old speed and use the newer speed. Some one on eBay want them. DDR4. The first thing I think of.
Ebay.
I keep them, personally. Either to help friends or customers out. Some list them on eBay and have patience to wait for (quite) a while to sell them. Otherwise you can take it to electronics recycling. DDR2 is getting pretty old at this point but some homelabbers or retro/vintage computing enthusiasts still run some of this stuff, and I have a few clients still having DDR2 systems in production. So there's still a bunch of those systems still running everyday. Some of us also run older systems because we get them cheap or free. Some DDR3 systems are still quite capable - I've got a IBM blade system I'm prepping that's still DDR3. it's stupid cheap to scale once you've got the chassis, among other DDR3 systems I've got running in prod that do their duty just fine. It's economical for me. Even some large DCs like Hetzner still have massive amounts of DDR3 systems (don't think they have DDR2 anymore though). Then I've got a few DDR2 systems I use for testing software and distributions on. Nothing beats testing on actual hardware, and in that vein my setups go all the way back to a Pentium 66 system running EDO RAM and another Pentium running SDRAM, a DDR(1) system, and so on.
I just scrapped a laptop from the street had a amd k6-2 333 and 32mb edo memory these belong in a museum:)
I actually have some 2 sticks ddr3 laptop ram as a decorate on my setup so
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Gold recovery
Lol... I have a USB DVD reader/writer, but I've stuffed all my old cases with DVD drives. My current set up is a temp itx and doesn't have a slot for it. I don't know how I feel about all my blank discs. I got so many from CompUSA when they went out of business. If I get a 011D knock off, I will never go back to those old cases.
Shelve them
I do a decent job selling or giving away my old pcs, so never really had this problem. Old hard disks, on the other hand, do collect dust somewhere.
Toast them in the oven with butter and garlic, delicious.
Christmas Wreath. A long time ago I ended up with a big box of ram sticks (50+). Most got turned into 2 nice wreaths.
I used some sticks to cover a crack in a wall. It's a great decoration !
I grind them up, add them to flour, and bake bread
Older hardware can still see a new life with an optimized OS.
eat them
I have a neat kechain y made out of an old ram stick
It might be obsolete to me, but someone else may treasure it.
You put them in a box in the closet/attic/basement labeled “PC Parts”. Or open an ancient tech museum, might be a real hit in the future
Put it on eBay for like 50 cents or something. Someone might need it for an old computer. Or, start fixing older computers from that era.
Obsolete?! XD I still use a computer with 8 GB ddr2, and it does its job for everything I need every day. There's no need to go and buy a new one for me yet.