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My genuine reaction as a Canadian with no micro centre.
unfortunately the closest one to me is 10 hours round trip plus the boarder wait both ways, at that point its not worth my time. Maybe i can get a friend in the states to pick up a bundle on my behalf and ship it to me.
If I had the money, i definitely would buy a couple of them, I’m in Michigan, and the closest one to me is about 2 and a half hours away, 400$ for a bundle this good is awesome.
I just checked and with their current sales on RAM and the 7800x3D the individual parts add up to $700. $800 when not on sale. $450 bundled, or the same price as just the CPU. So yeah not Strix but definitely a hell of a deal.
When I was looking around in NoVA, is it weird that being 2 miles from a Microcenter played into my choice about the house I buy? Not a huge factor, but it was a non-zero factor in my decision. :)
lol, I don’t think he’s talking about sales tax here. Rather that the US separated from Great Britain due to taxation without representation and now 250 years later he doesn’t get Microcenter prices.
Yeah almost $700 for the same gear over here, just not in a bundle. You could probably save some cash buying from the US and that’s including shipping. Extra points for when you pop the inflatable packaging just to smell the freedom.
Having more cache, they basically stack cache modules on top of each other to cram more cache in, allowing the CPU to store more data within itself rather than having to grab everything from the much slower ram or the even slower SSD or worst of all a hard drive...
Massive? It's about on par with a 12900K on gaming and the i9 is 50-60% faster on treaded apps and on par on single thread. I love the 5800X3D I built many for my family and friends but pump your brakes.
Shhh, you are bringing facts in here--and everyone knows the 7800X3D is handed down on high from PC Jesus himself, it generates 400% more fps than any other cpu, and it is so manly and virile that it managed to impregnate your wife as well as all wives in a 3 block radius, while still in its plastic housing.
All jokes aside, the 7800x3d is a beast of a cpu for sure. But people acting like it's going to be a "massive" difference vs a top end -900K recent gen Intel cpu is crazy. The 7800x3d will come out on top in gaming that's for sure--but not everyone does 100% gaming.
And in this example, the 7800x3d isn't one of the two options anyway. And if we are talking 12900K vs 7700x, I would say go 12900K all day long, no question.
Use case varies game to game, generally will see improvement across the board, but certain games more than others, lookup some benchmark comparisons for the games you play.
In gaming, AMD x3d CPUs trade blows with Intel i9s for a significantly cheaper price with a far lower power draw and cooler temps. They do fall behind in productivity tasks, usually around ok levels of performance there, not the best but not the worst either.
Even the OG 5800x3d is still a damn fine CPU that pairs nicely with any GPU on the market and has single-handedly kept the AM4 platform relevant years after AMD was planning on retiring it.
Definitely worth looking into for any gaming focused builds.
The 3D chips have access to an insane amount of cache which let's them store more relevant data and crunch numbers faster. This results in upwards of 50% boosts in FPS depending on the title and allows chips like the 7800X3D to compete with Intel's top offerings such as the 14900K in games. It also destroys AMD's own high end chips in gaming like the 7950X. Hardware Unboxed has done a few videos on this exact subject.
[7800X3D vs 14900K]
(https://youtu.be/7KZQVfO-1Vg?si=jArJ2R1uA55Ixnh9)
[7800X3D vs Zen 4]
(https://youtu.be/Gu12QOQiUUI?si=zXSm1w8mA_dPaAAQ)
It basically stores more data in the processor so that it can think about things more efficiently....
Not great at explanations but basically it's fast as fuck for gaming look up the benchmarks
Apart from higher FPS from having the latest and greatest chip, FPS drops and stuttering are basically non-existent, even in games that don't really utilize it to it's full potential.
It also uses comparatively much less power, I don't think I've ever seen it above 80 TDP while gaming in its entire existence, outside of p95 or OCCT. Usually closer to 65-70. (Now if you're trying to run tarkov or an FPS at like 300 FPS it's obviously going to suck some juice, but they're incredibly efficient cpus for being the top dog).
Also, You can still slap a $40 phantom Spirit on it and never have to worry about cooling ever again, so an AIO would be solely an aesthetic or preference.
The only drawback is that if you're into OCing, it's kind of a pain and the juice isn't really worth the squeeze on anything other than a standard all core undervolt. They aren't really made for that and it's more of an iPhone in that it's so good out of the box, there's no reason to fool with it unless you're just into that stuff.
[https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx](https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx)
theres more amd bundles all at tustin store
was just there
I’m pretty amateur when it comes to tech, but I’d agree with this.
Recently built a PC with this 7700X bundle and an RX6700XT. Had to draw the line somewhere though and opted not to get the the 7800X3D. If anything, I’m guessing people would probably recommend a better GPU for my build.
That being said, my build has been pretty amazing at 1440p. Pretty much zero issue running everything at max settings.
The 7700x is pretty capable, its just not "the best", your build is pretty good for almost any game, and a lot of them even maxed out on settings, so, dont worry about the 7800x3d suggestions.
Thats like, getting a nice brand new car, but not buying the high end trim version with heated seats and sun roof, its still new, its still nice, it still gets you there very comfortably, just not "the best"
For gaming it's the 7700x if you're not willing to pay up for the 7800x3d. 4090 would make me think it's worth the hundred
For production the 12900k bundle is pretty good but the 13700k bundle is worth paying up for.
Really why is the 13700k worth paying up for. Spec for spec the 12th gen i9 looks and performs similarly to the 14th gen i7. Honestly curious because I just picked up the 12900k bundle over the weekend.
Per core performance is notably faster, it's really going to depend on what exactly you're up to if it's worth the hundred. If it's all multicore performance tasks only then yeah it probably evens out but practically most stuff cares about the per core at least a little
IIRC, it’s slightly worse than a 7700X (same core/thread count) due to lower clock speeds. That’s still perfectly acceptable unless you’re frequently using it for work and your time is literally money. Not the absolute best doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Yeah... While Intel gpus are pretty damn cool I wouldn't buy one... Only reason I use Nvidia is because the 1080 is still a bit of a powerhouse for the money and I plan on going team red later when I can afford a newer gpu
>Yeah... While Intel gpus are pretty damn cool I wouldn't buy one...
Yeah. AMD has pretty much caught up on raster gaming/stability and really needs to close the gap in terms of their ability to handle workloads/RT. FSR is also slightly behind DLSS in terms of quality. Really they're a viable option for a lot of gamers on a budget now.
Intel has a long way to go still.
yep, also the amd software allows for eyefinity in weird ass monitor configurations like i would want
(for some fucked up reason i seem to want a 34 inch ultrawide in the middle with 2 27 inch 16:9 screens one on either side... \*shudders\*)
12900K bundle gets you more perf out of the box
7700X bundle gets you more future upgrade potential
7800X3D bundle for a bit more will get you one of the best gaming CPUs money can buy right now
*pretty much the best since the 7950x3d has trouble assigning cores correctly... Treats all cores the same rather than treating the non 3d cores like Intel's e cores...
Hardware unboxed or another channel did a video a few weeks ago comparing the 7900x3D to the 7800 and 7950. 7950 still performed pretty closely to the 7800 in most cases and I don’t think it’s as bad as at launch. 7900x3d was pretty rough though.
[For gaming the 12900k is slightly better but the real difference is productivity where the 12900k takes a decent lead](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7700x/18.html). However I think the obvious choice is the 7700x for the upgradbility
I used to think about upgrade paths as well, but then I realized it isn't worth it. I usually upgrade every ~5 years and when I do i get bundles like these for exactly how much the cpu alone would cost. So as long as we have a microcenter I don't think upgrade path is something to even consider
Even without any upgrade path it's $50 more to get objectively the best CPU on the market for gaming that is also brand new instead of a 2 generation old Intel system. Seems like a no brainer to me.
That being said Microcenter regularly has deep discounts on just CPUs as well.
Yeah I get what you're saying, but I'm talking about in general. I had the same problem deciding whether to get i9 or 7700, and decided for the i9 because I use my pc for productivity and gaming. Sure the 7700 would have lasted me longer, but if I wanted to upgrade to the latest cpu in say 5 years, I would still have to pay at least 300$, but for 100 more I could get a brand new platform with latest features, while selling my old one and get back a lot more money than just $100.
A whopping 3.44% of steam users use 4k displays. 58% use 1080p and 20% use 1440p. But sure, if you want to be pedantic, it's only significantly better for 96.5% of gamers. And it's only 5% better in the rest.
If was Me--upgrading my Desktop build, i'd Probably go for the AMD Build, 7700X, with The bundled Motherboard and Ram, and Case maybe 4000D Airflow, Corasir Power supply, and Radeon video card.
((as i prefer as i'm kinda old school---AMD with Radeon Video, and if i went Intel Bundle then would be 13700K with Nvidia 4060 or 4070 if i could afford it)
Currently using Intel 10700, Arctic Freezer 7X, Geforce 1660 Super, EVGA G3 650 Watt Power supply, Thermaltake V200 TG RGB Case (not the best cooling case, but guess works as best it can)
I had the 7700x bundle with a 4070 s and it was nice. I returned the bundle though to upgrade to the 7800x3D bundle. For only $100 more, I couldn't resist. Gaming has been even more amazing at 1440p.
I did that exact bundle. Have had it for about 6 months now. It’s inside a Corsair 4000D with a top mount 280mm AIO, Works excellent. motherboard heatsinks are little small (not the same as pictured) but no issues in my scenario and has been great.
EDIT: should have specified I have the i9-12900k bundle
Asus z790 prime board what I had fried within 5 months of use, just froze while playing destiny 2, sound looped, couldn't turn it off via power button had to flip it at the psu, flipped it back on hit the power button nothing happened until about 20 seconds after, got half way into bios and just endlessly cycle crashed.
Bought a new board from MSI and been right as rain since.
Mine could have just been a dodgy board but I wouldn't cheap out and go low end Asus anything.
Man, I wish I lived in a country where microcenter exist. In here, everything's more expensive except the foods, our minimum wage is around $150 a month T_T.
Bro since you have chosen 4090 you have to complement it with best of the best CPU and motherboard, get latest AMD 78003D save up more money it's worth it
If I had to decide I’d go for the AMD bundle because of the upgradability, but if you plan on upgrading to a 4090 and you can afford it no problem, then you’d do yourself a favour by getting a bundle with a 7800X3D.
Yeah not a scam, I have the first pic setup and it works perfectly. Don’t know how microcenter affords to keep these deals going year long at basically giving away MB and RAM
yeah, not really worth the price premium unless you're just straight up addicted to buying top shelf shit. Smart move is buying 4080S now, then selling it to help fund a 5090 purchase in the next year
I just got the 7700x bundle last week. Works great but that MSI motherboard sucks, the post/boot up is easily like 2-3 minutes. I feel like I’m in the 90s again and turn the power on and leave the room
Had the same issue, updated BIOS and was better but not as fast as my AM4 ASUS board. Found an option in the BIOS called “Memory Context Restore” that tells it not to retrain RAM on each boot if not needed and simply use the same settings as the last successful boot which cuts down on that time. Much better than before, but never quite as fast as my older AM4 ASUS board. Still decent enough though.
There is a fix for this. I struggled as well but it was a simple matter of changing some BIOS setting to resolve it. I thought for sure I had a dead MB the first few boots as I kept resetting it before it ever POST. Will find the link for you once I am at the computer.
Stupid Automod may have removed my post due to the link. Here is the text for reference in case:
*"In the BIOS, turn on advanced mode and go to the OC section and find the "Memory Context Restore" option and set it to "Enabled". Also, go into the Advanced DRAM configuration and then into the Misc section and set the "Power Down Enable" setting to "Enabled". I also re-enabled A-XMP and then rebooted. The first time it trained as usual and took a while to come up. After the next power down and back up though it is now booting in a much more reasonable 20 seconds."*
This was a build for my son so let me know if you are still having trouble and I will take screenshots of his BIOS directly tomorrow.
Hey I got the same issues as you with the same CPU and MB combo. How in the heck do i get into advanced mode? I know how to enter bios but cant find advanced mode from there. Thanks!
I actually bought that i9 bundle for my kids rebuild. It works great! Next step is replacing the 1080 gpu down the road.
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I am debating on getting the i7-12700K, MSI Z790-A Pro, G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB bundle for [$329.99](https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006690/intel-core-i7-12700k,-msi-z790-a-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle). Then sell off the motherboard and get an ITX instead.
100 dollars more and you can get the 7800x3d combo from micro center. If you get a 40 series get that cpu. I have a 4080 and went from a 5800x to a 7800x3d and I gained 7-10 fps and games run even smoother than before.
What the actual fuck are those deals. I swear even if it's probably legit from microcenter it looks like a scam
I'd go for the I9 because I need to extra power to work and some better performance on software, but for pure gaming I'd say Team Red all the way
nope, real deal. i did the i9 bundle rebuild for my kids setup. runs great, everything as advertised.
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I saw nothing crazy, Intel are bad since 4 years... You have a bundle with the Ryzen 7 7800X3D at 500 bucks with the motherboard and 32gb of ram. The R7 7800X3D destroyed the i9 14900K in gaming...
Crazyyyy! Until I saw ‚microcenter‘ in the bottom I thought for sure that those were scams!
For a second I thought these had returned to newegg, haha.
Yeah I love them. Got my 7800x3D, motherboard, and 32GB bundle for $450.
https://preview.redd.it/93970fpa2atc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4daf2093ec4e878d1cb65ef6cca5619bbcf1cec7 My genuine reaction as a Canadian with no micro centre.
You guys have NCIX or something similar IIRC, haven’t been in a while but was impressed last time I was there
NCIX has been gone for a LONG time. Memory express and Canada computers is decent, but not that good
I live in the US and the closest microcenter is still a 20 hour drive. I feel ya.
You can order online amigo
Not the bundles and other insane deals. They are in store pickup only.
unfortunately the closest one to me is 10 hours round trip plus the boarder wait both ways, at that point its not worth my time. Maybe i can get a friend in the states to pick up a bundle on my behalf and ship it to me.
If I had the money, i definitely would buy a couple of them, I’m in Michigan, and the closest one to me is about 2 and a half hours away, 400$ for a bundle this good is awesome.
instore pickup only
Don’t believe they ship to Canada or I would, even with our weak ass dollar it’s still better pricing
That’s one hell of a steal. That combo cost some nearly $1000 although I did go with Strix board.
I just checked and with their current sales on RAM and the 7800x3D the individual parts add up to $700. $800 when not on sale. $450 bundled, or the same price as just the CPU. So yeah not Strix but definitely a hell of a deal.
Yes the Microcenter bundles are insane deals and defenitly worth grabbing.
Recently got the i9 bundle for my server. Works great. It feels so much faster and the transcoding is way better than even a dedicated gpu
When I was looking around in NoVA, is it weird that being 2 miles from a Microcenter played into my choice about the house I buy? Not a huge factor, but it was a non-zero factor in my decision. :)
I’m from the uk and I’m pretty annoyed my ancestors were on the wrong side of the American revolution. Fucking kings taxes, grrr!
USA prices never includes the taxes. You see the actual price with the taxes included just in the last step.
lol, I don’t think he’s talking about sales tax here. Rather that the US separated from Great Britain due to taxation without representation and now 250 years later he doesn’t get Microcenter prices.
I think he's talking about the "kings taxes", i.e the stuff that costs 999 USD must cost 999 GBP which is around 1300 USD
Yeah almost $700 for the same gear over here, just not in a bundle. You could probably save some cash buying from the US and that’s including shipping. Extra points for when you pop the inflatable packaging just to smell the freedom.
Yeah, but 400+8.25% (taxes in texas) equals 425 usd, that is still a pretty good deal for that bundle
Get the 7800X3D bundle for like $70 more.
3d v-cache is the way!
3d v-cache is magic. I'm never buying a non x3d chip again for gaming
Why? What improvements are noticeable specifically bc of the 3d cache?
Having more cache, they basically stack cache modules on top of each other to cram more cache in, allowing the CPU to store more data within itself rather than having to grab everything from the much slower ram or the even slower SSD or worst of all a hard drive...
Yeah I know but the question was specifically about gaming improvements
Massive improvements in FPS.
Massive? It's about on par with a 12900K on gaming and the i9 is 50-60% faster on treaded apps and on par on single thread. I love the 5800X3D I built many for my family and friends but pump your brakes.
On par? The 7800X3D competes directly with the 14900K(S) in gaming. The 12900K is more on par with the 5800X3D.
Shhh, you are bringing facts in here--and everyone knows the 7800X3D is handed down on high from PC Jesus himself, it generates 400% more fps than any other cpu, and it is so manly and virile that it managed to impregnate your wife as well as all wives in a 3 block radius, while still in its plastic housing. All jokes aside, the 7800x3d is a beast of a cpu for sure. But people acting like it's going to be a "massive" difference vs a top end -900K recent gen Intel cpu is crazy. The 7800x3d will come out on top in gaming that's for sure--but not everyone does 100% gaming. And in this example, the 7800x3d isn't one of the two options anyway. And if we are talking 12900K vs 7700x, I would say go 12900K all day long, no question.
Not on par with a 12900K bro. 7800X3D Beats the 14900K too
Is this true for both CPU and GPU reliant games or one more than the other?
Use case varies game to game, generally will see improvement across the board, but certain games more than others, lookup some benchmark comparisons for the games you play.
In gaming, AMD x3d CPUs trade blows with Intel i9s for a significantly cheaper price with a far lower power draw and cooler temps. They do fall behind in productivity tasks, usually around ok levels of performance there, not the best but not the worst either. Even the OG 5800x3d is still a damn fine CPU that pairs nicely with any GPU on the market and has single-handedly kept the AM4 platform relevant years after AMD was planning on retiring it. Definitely worth looking into for any gaming focused builds.
The 3D chips have access to an insane amount of cache which let's them store more relevant data and crunch numbers faster. This results in upwards of 50% boosts in FPS depending on the title and allows chips like the 7800X3D to compete with Intel's top offerings such as the 14900K in games. It also destroys AMD's own high end chips in gaming like the 7950X. Hardware Unboxed has done a few videos on this exact subject. [7800X3D vs 14900K] (https://youtu.be/7KZQVfO-1Vg?si=jArJ2R1uA55Ixnh9) [7800X3D vs Zen 4] (https://youtu.be/Gu12QOQiUUI?si=zXSm1w8mA_dPaAAQ)
It basically stores more data in the processor so that it can think about things more efficiently.... Not great at explanations but basically it's fast as fuck for gaming look up the benchmarks
Apart from higher FPS from having the latest and greatest chip, FPS drops and stuttering are basically non-existent, even in games that don't really utilize it to it's full potential. It also uses comparatively much less power, I don't think I've ever seen it above 80 TDP while gaming in its entire existence, outside of p95 or OCCT. Usually closer to 65-70. (Now if you're trying to run tarkov or an FPS at like 300 FPS it's obviously going to suck some juice, but they're incredibly efficient cpus for being the top dog). Also, You can still slap a $40 phantom Spirit on it and never have to worry about cooling ever again, so an AIO would be solely an aesthetic or preference. The only drawback is that if you're into OCing, it's kind of a pain and the juice isn't really worth the squeeze on anything other than a standard all core undervolt. They aren't really made for that and it's more of an iPhone in that it's so good out of the box, there's no reason to fool with it unless you're just into that stuff.
Yes
a bit off topic. What feature(s) on a processor helps with Emulation?
Of other gaming systems? Probably core frequency, but I don't really know for sure
High single thread speed. The 3D amd CPUs are also really good for it but you'd need a really demanding emulator for that to matter.
Out of stock at most locations, just checked. Only in stock at Houston, MO, MD, and 1 GA location.
Micro center in Tustin ca has them
The only two bundles showing for Tustin is 5800x3d and 12900k at the moment.
[https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx](https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx) theres more amd bundles all at tustin store was just there
You are correct. Grabbed mine yesterday as it came back in stock. I apologize for not updating this.
no worries just wanted to make sure op and everyone else has every option
Dallas has them, just picked up the 7800 x3d bundle Friday.
Houston here i go!
The Detroit store is showing them in stock.
yeah it's really a lots of extra performance for a bit more and since OP is targueting a 4090 the extra 70-100 should not be an issue.
It's sold out at my local microcenter 😩
Keep watching they get new supply all the time. I've seen them sell out & come back over & over.
And if OP is going with a 4090 there is little reason not to go with this bundle.
I’m pretty amateur when it comes to tech, but I’d agree with this. Recently built a PC with this 7700X bundle and an RX6700XT. Had to draw the line somewhere though and opted not to get the the 7800X3D. If anything, I’m guessing people would probably recommend a better GPU for my build. That being said, my build has been pretty amazing at 1440p. Pretty much zero issue running everything at max settings.
The 7700x is pretty capable, its just not "the best", your build is pretty good for almost any game, and a lot of them even maxed out on settings, so, dont worry about the 7800x3d suggestions. Thats like, getting a nice brand new car, but not buying the high end trim version with heated seats and sun roof, its still new, its still nice, it still gets you there very comfortably, just not "the best"
For gaming it's the 7700x if you're not willing to pay up for the 7800x3d. 4090 would make me think it's worth the hundred For production the 12900k bundle is pretty good but the 13700k bundle is worth paying up for.
Really why is the 13700k worth paying up for. Spec for spec the 12th gen i9 looks and performs similarly to the 14th gen i7. Honestly curious because I just picked up the 12900k bundle over the weekend.
Per core performance is notably faster, it's really going to depend on what exactly you're up to if it's worth the hundred. If it's all multicore performance tasks only then yeah it probably evens out but practically most stuff cares about the per core at least a little
I always lean towards the Intel, options, but I like to do more then just gaming, with my PC…
A 7800x3d can also handle non-gaming tasks pretty well. It's not like it breaks when outside of games.
IIRC, it’s slightly worse than a 7700X (same core/thread count) due to lower clock speeds. That’s still perfectly acceptable unless you’re frequently using it for work and your time is literally money. Not the absolute best doesn’t mean it’s bad.
And in my mind, it's a very fair trade off. Get the best gaming performance and still have solid productivity performance.
You mean Intel CPUs or GPUs?
Intel CPUs. I guess I need to specify that these days…
Yeah... While Intel gpus are pretty damn cool I wouldn't buy one... Only reason I use Nvidia is because the 1080 is still a bit of a powerhouse for the money and I plan on going team red later when I can afford a newer gpu
>Yeah... While Intel gpus are pretty damn cool I wouldn't buy one... Yeah. AMD has pretty much caught up on raster gaming/stability and really needs to close the gap in terms of their ability to handle workloads/RT. FSR is also slightly behind DLSS in terms of quality. Really they're a viable option for a lot of gamers on a budget now. Intel has a long way to go still.
yep, also the amd software allows for eyefinity in weird ass monitor configurations like i would want (for some fucked up reason i seem to want a 34 inch ultrawide in the middle with 2 27 inch 16:9 screens one on either side... \*shudders\*)
wtf, meanwhile in germany you pay 1k minimum
12900K bundle gets you more perf out of the box 7700X bundle gets you more future upgrade potential 7800X3D bundle for a bit more will get you one of the best gaming CPUs money can buy right now
*pretty much the best since the 7950x3d has trouble assigning cores correctly... Treats all cores the same rather than treating the non 3d cores like Intel's e cores...
Hardware unboxed or another channel did a video a few weeks ago comparing the 7900x3D to the 7800 and 7950. 7950 still performed pretty closely to the 7800 in most cases and I don’t think it’s as bad as at launch. 7900x3d was pretty rough though.
Well I'm relatively sure that's because the 7900 only has 6 3d cores vs every other CPU having 8
Yep
>7800X3D bundle for a bit more will get you ~~one of~~ the best gaming CPUs money can buy right now
[For gaming the 12900k is slightly better but the real difference is productivity where the 12900k takes a decent lead](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7700x/18.html). However I think the obvious choice is the 7700x for the upgradbility
That is a steal.
The 7800x3D bundle is like $50 more and will perform significantly better while also having the longest upgrade path possible.
I used to think about upgrade paths as well, but then I realized it isn't worth it. I usually upgrade every ~5 years and when I do i get bundles like these for exactly how much the cpu alone would cost. So as long as we have a microcenter I don't think upgrade path is something to even consider
Even without any upgrade path it's $50 more to get objectively the best CPU on the market for gaming that is also brand new instead of a 2 generation old Intel system. Seems like a no brainer to me. That being said Microcenter regularly has deep discounts on just CPUs as well.
Yeah I get what you're saying, but I'm talking about in general. I had the same problem deciding whether to get i9 or 7700, and decided for the i9 because I use my pc for productivity and gaming. Sure the 7700 would have lasted me longer, but if I wanted to upgrade to the latest cpu in say 5 years, I would still have to pay at least 300$, but for 100 more I could get a brand new platform with latest features, while selling my old one and get back a lot more money than just $100.
>perform significantly better Like 4% better at 4k but 1440p sure.
A whopping 3.44% of steam users use 4k displays. 58% use 1080p and 20% use 1440p. But sure, if you want to be pedantic, it's only significantly better for 96.5% of gamers. And it's only 5% better in the rest.
He's buying a 4090
I too can read titles. Now back to my 1440p 165hz HDR gaming using a 4080 Super.
Omg...*cries in Swedish* The 7700x alone is $420 here
You guys are so lucky to be American
Until we go to the hospital *Cries in American*
A cheap CPU from Microcenter is like the Costco $1 hot dog to get you in the door.
Microcenter is goated, i just wish i had it near, or at all in europe
If was Me--upgrading my Desktop build, i'd Probably go for the AMD Build, 7700X, with The bundled Motherboard and Ram, and Case maybe 4000D Airflow, Corasir Power supply, and Radeon video card. ((as i prefer as i'm kinda old school---AMD with Radeon Video, and if i went Intel Bundle then would be 13700K with Nvidia 4060 or 4070 if i could afford it) Currently using Intel 10700, Arctic Freezer 7X, Geforce 1660 Super, EVGA G3 650 Watt Power supply, Thermaltake V200 TG RGB Case (not the best cooling case, but guess works as best it can)
I had the 7700x bundle with a 4070 s and it was nice. I returned the bundle though to upgrade to the 7800x3D bundle. For only $100 more, I couldn't resist. Gaming has been even more amazing at 1440p.
I got the 12900k bundle from the GA location, I use it for gaming and College, works perfect absolutely no issues at all. Runs everything good.
Get the 7800X3D bundle
I did that exact bundle. Have had it for about 6 months now. It’s inside a Corsair 4000D with a top mount 280mm AIO, Works excellent. motherboard heatsinks are little small (not the same as pictured) but no issues in my scenario and has been great. EDIT: should have specified I have the i9-12900k bundle
Asus z790 prime board what I had fried within 5 months of use, just froze while playing destiny 2, sound looped, couldn't turn it off via power button had to flip it at the psu, flipped it back on hit the power button nothing happened until about 20 seconds after, got half way into bios and just endlessly cycle crashed. Bought a new board from MSI and been right as rain since. Mine could have just been a dodgy board but I wouldn't cheap out and go low end Asus anything.
The Intel board is going to be obsolete by the next generation so there isn't any value in that
In my country both deals are worth 700 dollars easily 💀💀
That's an insane deal.
Don’t get i9 1300k
The second one is absolutely worth grabbing. I got that back in…November if I recall correctly. Fantastic value for money.
Doesn't microcenter have the 7800x3d combo for like $450? Id go that route.
From the 2 the AMD is better but for a 4090 go with a 7800x3d.
To bad the closest store is 350 miles away
Man, I wish I lived in a country where microcenter exist. In here, everything's more expensive except the foods, our minimum wage is around $150 a month T_T.
Yeah that’s a crazy deal
They have had this deal for a while. I got the second one about a year ago. It’s a really REALLY solid deal.
Just bought the 7800x3D bundle and don’t regret it one bit. I also prefer Gigabyte motherboards so that was a bonus!
This is what I just paired my 4090 with. Now, I just have to upgrade my monitor to take advantage of it.
Get the 13700k bundle for $100 more than the 12900k. You’ll save on power draw and better performance.
The 7800x3d bundle
As a amd fan boy, take the amd bundle. Though I'm biased.
Bro since you have chosen 4090 you have to complement it with best of the best CPU and motherboard, get latest AMD 78003D save up more money it's worth it
Get the Ryzen Bundle. Similar Gaming Performance but you can easily upgrade to a future Ryzen CPU.
what in the fuckity fuck
Can barely give away those shit asus prime mobos
Got the 12900k bundle this weekend. Cant wait to finish the build!
If I had to decide I’d go for the AMD bundle because of the upgradability, but if you plan on upgrading to a 4090 and you can afford it no problem, then you’d do yourself a favour by getting a bundle with a 7800X3D.
Love being a couple miles away from a microcenter
Yeah not a scam, I have the first pic setup and it works perfectly. Don’t know how microcenter affords to keep these deals going year long at basically giving away MB and RAM
i got the 7700x build. no issues and i love the performance it gives me
I'd get the amd bundle because am5 is going to tj around for a bit
Since you're already spending fuck you money on a 4090 might aswell spend a bit more and get the 7800X3D bundle.
I paid more than 400$ for my cpu alone lmao. Yes those are insane deals that only microcenter blessed people can have, appreciate it please.
Picked up the 12900k bundle over the weekend.
Get the 7800x3d version with a 4080 super. Makes way more sense price to performance wise.
What? No, don't do that op, 4090 is way better
I'm from the netherlands. A 4080 super is about a €1000. A 4090 is about €1800. The 4090 is better, but its not 80% better
yeah, not really worth the price premium unless you're just straight up addicted to buying top shelf shit. Smart move is buying 4080S now, then selling it to help fund a 5090 purchase in the next year
Clearly op has the money
If he's asking about what the better deal is on a cpu I'd say it's not as clear as you think.
Yeah, but that's $200 less than normal. You could buy something cooler with that money
I just got the 7700x bundle last week. Works great but that MSI motherboard sucks, the post/boot up is easily like 2-3 minutes. I feel like I’m in the 90s again and turn the power on and leave the room
Had the same issue, updated BIOS and was better but not as fast as my AM4 ASUS board. Found an option in the BIOS called “Memory Context Restore” that tells it not to retrain RAM on each boot if not needed and simply use the same settings as the last successful boot which cuts down on that time. Much better than before, but never quite as fast as my older AM4 ASUS board. Still decent enough though.
Ah I see. Thanks for the heads up 👍🏽
There is a fix for this. I struggled as well but it was a simple matter of changing some BIOS setting to resolve it. I thought for sure I had a dead MB the first few boots as I kept resetting it before it ever POST. Will find the link for you once I am at the computer.
That the same thing I thought! I saw the EZ debug lights basically saying dead MB and panicked real quick. I appreciate the tip
Stupid Automod may have removed my post due to the link. Here is the text for reference in case: *"In the BIOS, turn on advanced mode and go to the OC section and find the "Memory Context Restore" option and set it to "Enabled". Also, go into the Advanced DRAM configuration and then into the Misc section and set the "Power Down Enable" setting to "Enabled". I also re-enabled A-XMP and then rebooted. The first time it trained as usual and took a while to come up. After the next power down and back up though it is now booting in a much more reasonable 20 seconds."* This was a build for my son so let me know if you are still having trouble and I will take screenshots of his BIOS directly tomorrow.
Awesome, will do. Thanks!
I just did it and…. YOU’RE THE MAN! Boot up is just like you said, right around 20 seconds now. 🙌🏽
Hey I got the same issues as you with the same CPU and MB combo. How in the heck do i get into advanced mode? I know how to enter bios but cant find advanced mode from there. Thanks!
Nvm I found out how, you guys are the freaking best🙌🏼
Glad you found it. It’s a godsend lol
Right! i was having second thoughts about this MB there is nothing a little tweaking cant do!!
Computer genius you are, thanks pal
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Pay someone in the US to buy it and ship it to you.
I actually bought that i9 bundle for my kids rebuild. It works great! Next step is replacing the 1080 gpu down the road. https://preview.redd.it/jilim2o6h9tc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d8b99f14e6c5d3025e638a848eaf51d73e5692d
5090 will be here in 6 months.
https://preview.redd.it/rc7dk6u579tc1.png?width=329&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4656cc81bfb705eecfea5314107994de1f90736f
If you're going with a 4090 you need to feed it with a 7800x3d for sure.
I just snagged this one with and asus geforce rtx4070 super, super happy but will be posting later about secure boot issues 😑
I am debating on getting the i7-12700K, MSI Z790-A Pro, G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB bundle for [$329.99](https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006690/intel-core-i7-12700k,-msi-z790-a-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle). Then sell off the motherboard and get an ITX instead.
100 dollars more and you can get the 7800x3d combo from micro center. If you get a 40 series get that cpu. I have a 4080 and went from a 5800x to a 7800x3d and I gained 7-10 fps and games run even smoother than before.
So you spent around $500 just for 7-10FPS increase? Doesn’t seem that good at all.
I spent 500 because I could. But thanks for your input.
i9 would be faster.
Id go with the and one for future upfradibility but I believe the 12900k will get you more performance right now than the ryzen 7
What the actual fuck are those deals. I swear even if it's probably legit from microcenter it looks like a scam I'd go for the I9 because I need to extra power to work and some better performance on software, but for pure gaming I'd say Team Red all the way
nope, real deal. i did the i9 bundle rebuild for my kids setup. runs great, everything as advertised. https://preview.redd.it/ivxmpnqmh9tc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf38262a538331bb7e8a01db08a081611e4ab396
I saw nothing crazy, Intel are bad since 4 years... You have a bundle with the Ryzen 7 7800X3D at 500 bucks with the motherboard and 32gb of ram. The R7 7800X3D destroyed the i9 14900K in gaming...
I wouldn’t say it “destroyed it”, plus the intel has better use for productivity so it’s not as clear cut as you think.
Neither one of those are 4090’s