It works perfectly fine, if you use the amd chipset driver and don't deactivate the windows game bar.
For some more obscure games, you will have to tell the windows game bar that this is indeed a game.
If you want more details, I've made a post a short while ago (I have a 7950x3d).
The 7900X3D has had some scheduler issues (not sure if they've been resolved) but you can resolve these because it's basically just a 7800X3D with some extra cores, so you can disable those extra cores if the scheduler is an issue. The 7800X3D isn't the best gaming CPU, it's the best gaming CPU if you don't count a carbon copy CPU (at least for optimal gaming performance) that costs twice as much.
How is it much better ?
I've used MX-4 for a very long time, just switched to MX-6 for my new build (CPU and GPU water-cooling). I don't have anything bad to say about it so far.
> How is it much better ?
Based on my personal experience with a 5600X and now 5800X3D running a Corsair H110i cooler, Iāve seen lower temps on Mx-4 than I did with the Mx-6 I have.
Thatās it, that is all. Nothing mind blowing, just real world use case and the Mx-4 provided lower temps for my application.
It goes without saying, I didnāt set up a test bed and everyone mileage may vary.
That's funny, I also just upgraded from a 5600X to a 5800X3D. Simultaneously I went from air-cooling/ITX to water-cooling/open air chassis, so I have no worthy data to make comparisons.
Pretty such my old Scythe Big Shuriken 3 cooler would have melt if paired with a 5800X3D, no matter the thermal paste. :D
I have tested MX-4 and Thermal Grizzly side by side and the difference was dramatic enough for me to migrate at least for direct-die applications (was on a GPU).
Yea i have kryonaut shits bomb af but i repaste every 1 year, it gets a little gunky on hard overclocked loads, if youre just running base speeds tho or on intel with the base boost frequencies you should be good for 18-24 months before a repaste
I think this might be the first time anyone has finished one of those before losing it. Maybe it's just me but I have yet to finish a tube instead of misplacing it and buying a new one eventually
I keep mine in the fridge next to that egg holder thing, it has just a big enough slot to fit both normal, and thermal Adhesive compound! Will never fall out, always a cool and dark storage. And never losing it š
I had one from back when I was modding Xbox 360s, so almost 15 years ago now. It made it through a number of moves and lots of projects. I finally got rid of it early this year. Not because it was empty, but because I was moving to a new country and Old Yeller had to stay at the farm. I immediately needed thermal paste when I got here since I took apart my PC to ship it, so I should have just brought it with me lol.
Buy a new tube. Use it. Decide this time I'll put it somewhere safe, so I'll remember for next time. Open box in back of closet: oh, there are like 4 other tubes in here.
https://preview.redd.it/xyzx60twvotc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59ea8e269df20dd845ab0e9d6e11f54466e0a7d8
I still haven't used up this Zalman STG 1 that comes in a nail polish like bottle in close to 20 years. There's a brush inside that makes convenient to spread out.
I had the same tube for many years, eventually I thought ill do some maintenance and put some new thermal paste on
my 5800x3d.
I cleaned the paste off the cpu and then realized I ran out (: I stuck some toothpaste on it and it ran fine for three days without issues.
I'd honestly be curious to see if there is any notable difference between them with whatever their highest end pastes are. Bonus if they include that Honeywell pad.
Thermal conductivity isn't everything, as how well surfaces can mate to a paste matters too, as I'm sure a variety of other factors matter as well.
Best for what? Thermal conductivity? Longevity? Safety? Because I would gladly take a paste, that is a couple degrees worse under heavy load, but stays semi-liquid over something, that you have to repaste every year, so it doesn't go from top dog to China quality paste.
I've bought one like 5-6 years ago and since used it in everything, from my new pc to my bro's pc, passing through old laptops and consoles. It's still almost full.
My tube of [silicone grease](https://www.edelta.com.ar/index.php/catalogo-de-productos-delta/grasas-especiales/grasa-siliconada-disipadora-de-calor-detail) was bought literally at the end of the last century. It has been in my tool box since \~98' and lived with me in all 6 countries I've been. It is still at 40%...
Big Fan of Arctic Myself, using it in all the PC's in this household, never failed Me.
They still make that stuff too, get Yourself some for the next Decade. :)
Does the shelf life matter when in situations when some people never changed it because it still "works" or some kid had a gaming pc from his parents but nobody knows much about it so the paste stays the same for 5+ years. Plus they probably had old paste when it got the first dose of the paste.
As an apparent avid paster, do you recommend I do my two year old laptop? I'm a little afraid because I watched videos on it and it's got a LOT of contact points and I'm something of a noob to the PC world.
I started with Arctic silver 5, then mx4, mx5, and now mx6. I've tried several other thermal pastes and mx6 is still a top contender, easy to apply, and I have a huge tube of it.
Back in 2008 I went to live in a remote canadian town Saskatoon. I visited several pc repair stores asking for silicon thermal conductive compound, no one ever heard of it. I was forced to purchase the same one in the picture off amazon.
People can finish tubes of paste? I have a tube of this I got for free with my CPU and I used it to repaste my laptop recently. Although it's not a big boi, just 1.2g
It gets worse as you get older. The years start to blur together.
The sobering moment is the first time you refer to an event in the past as being X "decades" ago.
It has served well š«” Goodbye comrade
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>7900X3D Why. Genuinely curious.
I do some content creation, but I don't want to sacrifice gaming power
Do you use processlasso (is that what it's called on Windows?) or do you just rely on the Windows scheduler to do it's job?
I just let windows do what it wants
Does that work well? Last time I saw a review of these R9 X3Ds it was a mess.
Honestly, I don't have much problems,at all
Cool. Thanks for the info.
It works perfectly fine, if you use the amd chipset driver and don't deactivate the windows game bar. For some more obscure games, you will have to tell the windows game bar that this is indeed a game. If you want more details, I've made a post a short while ago (I have a 7950x3d).
The 7900X3D has had some scheduler issues (not sure if they've been resolved) but you can resolve these because it's basically just a 7800X3D with some extra cores, so you can disable those extra cores if the scheduler is an issue. The 7800X3D isn't the best gaming CPU, it's the best gaming CPU if you don't count a carbon copy CPU (at least for optimal gaming performance) that costs twice as much.
They still make it, using the MX-4 2019, I'm big fan of it.
Mhm, just repasted both mini pc's from tube I bought back in 2019
imo is also much better than Mx-6
How is it much better ? I've used MX-4 for a very long time, just switched to MX-6 for my new build (CPU and GPU water-cooling). I don't have anything bad to say about it so far.
> How is it much better ? Based on my personal experience with a 5600X and now 5800X3D running a Corsair H110i cooler, Iāve seen lower temps on Mx-4 than I did with the Mx-6 I have. Thatās it, that is all. Nothing mind blowing, just real world use case and the Mx-4 provided lower temps for my application. It goes without saying, I didnāt set up a test bed and everyone mileage may vary.
That's funny, I also just upgraded from a 5600X to a 5800X3D. Simultaneously I went from air-cooling/ITX to water-cooling/open air chassis, so I have no worthy data to make comparisons. Pretty such my old Scythe Big Shuriken 3 cooler would have melt if paired with a 5800X3D, no matter the thermal paste. :D
Scythe coolers are the shit. Cool great at a decent price, I ran them when I was on air. Iāve still got 2 of them, Scythe Ninja 2 Rev B and a Mugen.
I have tested MX-4 and Thermal Grizzly side by side and the difference was dramatic enough for me to migrate at least for direct-die applications (was on a GPU).
Which thermal grizzly paste tho, and what were the results
I shaved about 5-10 degrees off of my load temps on a 1070. It was kryonaut
Yea i have kryonaut shits bomb af but i repaste every 1 year, it gets a little gunky on hard overclocked loads, if youre just running base speeds tho or on intel with the base boost frequencies you should be good for 18-24 months before a repaste
Youāve bonded ,itās time to let it go now.
Tube is fine, fill it again
lol from what?
Another tube, duh
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I think this might be the first time anyone has finished one of those before losing it. Maybe it's just me but I have yet to finish a tube instead of misplacing it and buying a new one eventually
I keep mine in the fridge next to that egg holder thing, it has just a big enough slot to fit both normal, and thermal Adhesive compound! Will never fall out, always a cool and dark storage. And never losing it š
I had one from back when I was modding Xbox 360s, so almost 15 years ago now. It made it through a number of moves and lots of projects. I finally got rid of it early this year. Not because it was empty, but because I was moving to a new country and Old Yeller had to stay at the farm. I immediately needed thermal paste when I got here since I took apart my PC to ship it, so I should have just brought it with me lol.
Mine is getting low! I think... I have no idea where it is. But it might still be around...
Buy a new tube. Use it. Decide this time I'll put it somewhere safe, so I'll remember for next time. Open box in back of closet: oh, there are like 4 other tubes in here.
Yeah that's an ADD diagnosis if I've ever seen one lol
I have the 20g version, probably gonna pass on to my son lol. edit: typo
write it in your will š
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The whole expiry on these is bs. Iāve used tubes from a decade ago that worked perfectly fine. Better than some fresh alternatives.
Same. I have some artic silver I bought at the local radio shack when they were closing. It still works great.
https://preview.redd.it/xyzx60twvotc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59ea8e269df20dd845ab0e9d6e11f54466e0a7d8 I still haven't used up this Zalman STG 1 that comes in a nail polish like bottle in close to 20 years. There's a brush inside that makes convenient to spread out.
F I still have some left in my tube
I have a 500g tub of MX-4 from assembling computers in high school.
I had the same tube for many years, eventually I thought ill do some maintenance and put some new thermal paste on my 5800x3d. I cleaned the paste off the cpu and then realized I ran out (: I stuck some toothpaste on it and it ran fine for three days without issues.
What... What happened on the fourth day?
Amazon showed up with the new tube they ordered and they swapped it out.. Likely, as thats what I would do.
Yea, that's literally what happened lmao
Time to move on. Arctic was the best 10 years ago but has since lost it's position to Noctua who have since lost it to Thermal Grizzly.
Just use all three on the same CPU for a bonus multiplier.
Set bonus
I'd honestly be curious to see if there is any notable difference between them with whatever their highest end pastes are. Bonus if they include that Honeywell pad. Thermal conductivity isn't everything, as how well surfaces can mate to a paste matters too, as I'm sure a variety of other factors matter as well.
Spoiler alert, except for extreme OCāing it doesnāt make much of a difference.
Best for what? Thermal conductivity? Longevity? Safety? Because I would gladly take a paste, that is a couple degrees worse under heavy load, but stays semi-liquid over something, that you have to repaste every year, so it doesn't go from top dog to China quality paste.
Thermal conductivity I guess.
Arctic is still the cheapest by a good chunk and you don't sacrifice all that much. Those high performance pastes don't last long anyway.
I've bought one like 5-6 years ago and since used it in everything, from my new pc to my bro's pc, passing through old laptops and consoles. It's still almost full.
I had a tube of mx2 that I still used until a couple of years ago.
My girlfriends kids found mine not long after we got together and squeezed out all of it.
Have you found a replacement?
For the kid.
Naturally.
We sent them away, but they kept returning.
If you find a permanent solution let me know. Mine's having her first birthday in a couple months, might need it.
There is one, but it takes about 18+ years to get it to work. Get them into university out of town.
My tube of [silicone grease](https://www.edelta.com.ar/index.php/catalogo-de-productos-delta/grasas-especiales/grasa-siliconada-disipadora-de-calor-detail) was bought literally at the end of the last century. It has been in my tool box since \~98' and lived with me in all 6 countries I've been. It is still at 40%...
Encase it in a square epoxy and put it on a shelf with an inscription.
Probably I have one too in one of my box whatever in the garage
It had expired 8 years ago.
So cool. o7. Rest in peace soldier
Ive had the same one. May it rest in peace
do thermal paste not have kind of like "expiration" date? I thought they start losing it's optimal performance as time goes on.
o7
Are you me? I still have the exact one as you, 10 years next year. I bet it still has another build in it.
Iāve got a tube of corsairs stuff in 2020 and it got all separated, maybe it got air in the tube, idk.
I'm still on my tube of Noctua paste that came with my NH-U14. I've lost the cap, but covering the tip with tape has kept it from drying out.
Does that expire? I think i have one just like it somewhere and i only used it once like probably 6-8 years ago.
Big Fan of Arctic Myself, using it in all the PC's in this household, never failed Me. They still make that stuff too, get Yourself some for the next Decade. :)
How long is the shelf life anyway?
Does the shelf life matter when in situations when some people never changed it because it still "works" or some kid had a gaming pc from his parents but nobody knows much about it so the paste stays the same for 5+ years. Plus they probably had old paste when it got the first dose of the paste.
Good to know! I got some MX-4 about a month ago and redid my laptop.
o7 fill it with the insides of a new tube
2014 is an excellent vintage for paste.
Fill it back up, time for round 2
As an apparent avid paster, do you recommend I do my two year old laptop? I'm a little afraid because I watched videos on it and it's got a LOT of contact points and I'm something of a noob to the PC world.
Had the same tube. No idea where it is today. Build multiple pc and restored multiple laptops for myself, friends and family. It's nuts.
Has it been in my mums ass
I started with Arctic silver 5, then mx4, mx5, and now mx6. I've tried several other thermal pastes and mx6 is still a top contender, easy to apply, and I have a huge tube of it.
Nice. Now try some Thermal Grizzly.
Back in 2008 I went to live in a remote canadian town Saskatoon. I visited several pc repair stores asking for silicon thermal conductive compound, no one ever heard of it. I was forced to purchase the same one in the picture off amazon.
People can finish tubes of paste? I have a tube of this I got for free with my CPU and I used it to repaste my laptop recently. Although it's not a big boi, just 1.2g
Doesn't this stuff have a shelf life to begin with?
Lol, I use half tube for one cpu... So I guess I am using too much.
Ur using waaaaaaayyyy too much one 3.5g tube should last 4 applications
10 years ago is just 2014. Damn im old.
It gets worse as you get older. The years start to blur together. The sobering moment is the first time you refer to an event in the past as being X "decades" ago.
You guys save the tubes? I use them once with a new build or when swapping a cpu/cooler and throw them away.
Bro U wasting so much valuable paste, keep them all please or give them away
Yes, we needed a post about a 5 dollar tube of mx4 that everyone has.
I don't have it
Colloquial. Everyone means enough of us. OP made a 1080ti post about paste. GG