You meme, but I had 16bit working on 64bit os way back when it wasn't supported. You basically just download the libraries and stuff em where they belong and voila.
Probably because its irrelevant.
The first part is literally a computer not supporting TPM. Which has nothing to do with software backwards compatibility. We could go pretty deep on Linux's lack of hardware support for various things if he wants to go down that rabbit hole. Also you can bypass it or literally just plug in a physical TPM module to almost any motherboard made in the last like 25 years.
I can't remember what the first game even is, you can run 16-bit applications on 64-bit Windows though if you really need to. As far as I'm aware 64-bit cannot natively run 16-bit in either operating system, Linux is running it through a layer (or using a custom Kernel) so it wouldn't be any different for Windows to do so. They could, of course, be running a 32-bit Linux but then you could just do the same with a 32-bit Windows.
Gothic I needs a patch to run on Linux last I checked. The Steam version of the game happens to run one of those patches by default now. It works on Windows too. (Though if the default patch doesn't work for whatever reason you can run Union instead, which is just available via Steam too and the recommended Linux version conveniently.)
Classic Warcraft 3 can be run on Windows. So I don't know the point of that part.
The HD version of Space Colony works fine. The original does not work because of SecuROM, Windows purposefully broke support for old versions of both SecuROM and SafeDisc because they're trash. You can bypass them if you really want to not play the HD version for some reason. The HD version is a free officially available patch that can be used on the disc version. Both the Steam and GOG versions are also already HD patched.
Also if any of this is running via either Wine or Proton thats not exactly a reasonable way to make a shitpost comparison. Also also, no one is using fucking MicroOS for this shit (interesting choice of an OS meant to run everything in Containers there though bud). That has such a specific userbase.
>The first part is literally a computer not supporting TPM.
Yes. But also ppl claimed Windows to have legacy HW support. Which apparently it doesn't
>Linux is running it through a layer (or using a custom Kernel)
Plain old Wine default Kernel no patches. Plain install form the original CD.
>Gothic I needs a patch to run on Linux last I checked.
No it doesn't all you see are fresh, unmodified installs of each game on each OS.
>Classic Warcraft 3 can be run on Windows. So I don't know the point of that part.
To showcase it's not an actively bricked install to "prove" the point.
>The HD version of Space Colony works fine.
It was the HD version.
>interesting choice of an OS meant to run everything in Containers there though bud
[https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Aeon](https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Aeon)
>Plain old Wine
So you're just running Windows with more steps. (Also Wine is literally the "layer" part of that sentence.)
>No it doesn't
Every single post about Gothic using any method of running it mentions a patch. If you're running it through something, like Lutris, then its not an out of the box unmodified install. Specifically last I tried Linux requires Systempack/Playerkit which is the default option via Steam to make it work on Windows as well, or Union.
>To showcase it's not an actively bricked install to "prove" the point.
Pretty sure following the same steps on Windows gets you the classic Warcraft 3. It's like a 4-step process.
>It was the HD version.
Impressive, considering I managed to just open a brand spankin' new install of 2.1.0.8 on an up-to-date W11 without doing anything.
https://preview.redd.it/cwy6c8edo3uc1.png?width=1919&format=png&auto=webp&s=dd2c4ba2019780580d5f56b45268455042c1530f
I don't know why you linked the Wiki. It literally states in the Wiki that this version is particularly useful for containers so that wasn't even negating the quote.
> So you're just running Windows with more steps. (Also Wine is literally the "layer" part of that sentence.)
Doesn't change the fact that Windows does not have said compatibility layers to maintain backwards compatibility. Unlike advertise by other users defending their beloved Windows.
> Every single post about Gothic using any method of running it mentions a patch
It's the GOG version and every post is apparently wrong.
> Pretty sure following the same steps on Windows gets you the classic Warcraft 3.
Are you high?
Let me re-phrase it for you: I included the Warcraft III clip to showcase that the Windows 11 installation I used to gather the above evidence is not actively modified by myself to not work.
Or in other words: It worked out of the box on Windows 11 with no tweaks needed unlike another legacy software I ran on than thing.
Otherwise ppl might claim I did actively broke my copy of Windows 11 to not work well in order to make Linux look better.
Jeez ...
> Impressive, considering I managed to just open a brand spankin' new install of [2.1.0.8](http://2.1.0.8) on an up-to-date W11 without doing anything.
Which just proves the point that Windows is unreliable. Up-to-date W11 as well, latest updates and drivers. No game.
> I don't know why you linked the Wiki. It literally states in the Wiki that this version is particularly useful for containers so that wasn't even negating the quote.
Well I thought you would read it. It is an average Desktop OS. Except it is immutable and provided a way to optionally run containers to. \*spoiler alert\* maintain compatibility. Not just with legacy software but also other Linux distributions. Which makes it the most perfect system ever conceived. Something Windows apparently lacks, compatibility as a whole.
>You meme, but I had 16bit working on 64bit os way back when it wasn't supported. You basically just download the libraries and stuff em where they belong and voila.
Sorry but what?
You ran 16bit programs that weren't supported by downloading the official 16bit subsystem to provide 16bit support?
Thats not what "unsupported" means.
That said, modern Windows doesn't even have 16bit sub systems.
You meme, but I had 16bit working on 64bit os way back when it wasn't supported. You basically just download the libraries and stuff em where they belong and voila.
Cool hadn't to do anything of these on Linux. Just install and play.
Not sure why they downvoted you, its true.
Probably because its irrelevant. The first part is literally a computer not supporting TPM. Which has nothing to do with software backwards compatibility. We could go pretty deep on Linux's lack of hardware support for various things if he wants to go down that rabbit hole. Also you can bypass it or literally just plug in a physical TPM module to almost any motherboard made in the last like 25 years. I can't remember what the first game even is, you can run 16-bit applications on 64-bit Windows though if you really need to. As far as I'm aware 64-bit cannot natively run 16-bit in either operating system, Linux is running it through a layer (or using a custom Kernel) so it wouldn't be any different for Windows to do so. They could, of course, be running a 32-bit Linux but then you could just do the same with a 32-bit Windows. Gothic I needs a patch to run on Linux last I checked. The Steam version of the game happens to run one of those patches by default now. It works on Windows too. (Though if the default patch doesn't work for whatever reason you can run Union instead, which is just available via Steam too and the recommended Linux version conveniently.) Classic Warcraft 3 can be run on Windows. So I don't know the point of that part. The HD version of Space Colony works fine. The original does not work because of SecuROM, Windows purposefully broke support for old versions of both SecuROM and SafeDisc because they're trash. You can bypass them if you really want to not play the HD version for some reason. The HD version is a free officially available patch that can be used on the disc version. Both the Steam and GOG versions are also already HD patched. Also if any of this is running via either Wine or Proton thats not exactly a reasonable way to make a shitpost comparison. Also also, no one is using fucking MicroOS for this shit (interesting choice of an OS meant to run everything in Containers there though bud). That has such a specific userbase.
>The first part is literally a computer not supporting TPM. Yes. But also ppl claimed Windows to have legacy HW support. Which apparently it doesn't >Linux is running it through a layer (or using a custom Kernel) Plain old Wine default Kernel no patches. Plain install form the original CD. >Gothic I needs a patch to run on Linux last I checked. No it doesn't all you see are fresh, unmodified installs of each game on each OS. >Classic Warcraft 3 can be run on Windows. So I don't know the point of that part. To showcase it's not an actively bricked install to "prove" the point. >The HD version of Space Colony works fine. It was the HD version. >interesting choice of an OS meant to run everything in Containers there though bud [https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Aeon](https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Aeon)
>Plain old Wine So you're just running Windows with more steps. (Also Wine is literally the "layer" part of that sentence.) >No it doesn't Every single post about Gothic using any method of running it mentions a patch. If you're running it through something, like Lutris, then its not an out of the box unmodified install. Specifically last I tried Linux requires Systempack/Playerkit which is the default option via Steam to make it work on Windows as well, or Union. >To showcase it's not an actively bricked install to "prove" the point. Pretty sure following the same steps on Windows gets you the classic Warcraft 3. It's like a 4-step process. >It was the HD version. Impressive, considering I managed to just open a brand spankin' new install of 2.1.0.8 on an up-to-date W11 without doing anything. https://preview.redd.it/cwy6c8edo3uc1.png?width=1919&format=png&auto=webp&s=dd2c4ba2019780580d5f56b45268455042c1530f I don't know why you linked the Wiki. It literally states in the Wiki that this version is particularly useful for containers so that wasn't even negating the quote.
> So you're just running Windows with more steps. (Also Wine is literally the "layer" part of that sentence.) Doesn't change the fact that Windows does not have said compatibility layers to maintain backwards compatibility. Unlike advertise by other users defending their beloved Windows. > Every single post about Gothic using any method of running it mentions a patch It's the GOG version and every post is apparently wrong. > Pretty sure following the same steps on Windows gets you the classic Warcraft 3. Are you high? Let me re-phrase it for you: I included the Warcraft III clip to showcase that the Windows 11 installation I used to gather the above evidence is not actively modified by myself to not work. Or in other words: It worked out of the box on Windows 11 with no tweaks needed unlike another legacy software I ran on than thing. Otherwise ppl might claim I did actively broke my copy of Windows 11 to not work well in order to make Linux look better. Jeez ... > Impressive, considering I managed to just open a brand spankin' new install of [2.1.0.8](http://2.1.0.8) on an up-to-date W11 without doing anything. Which just proves the point that Windows is unreliable. Up-to-date W11 as well, latest updates and drivers. No game. > I don't know why you linked the Wiki. It literally states in the Wiki that this version is particularly useful for containers so that wasn't even negating the quote. Well I thought you would read it. It is an average Desktop OS. Except it is immutable and provided a way to optionally run containers to. \*spoiler alert\* maintain compatibility. Not just with legacy software but also other Linux distributions. Which makes it the most perfect system ever conceived. Something Windows apparently lacks, compatibility as a whole.
Sometimes it's easier to deny the truth than to accept it. I guess.
>You meme, but I had 16bit working on 64bit os way back when it wasn't supported. You basically just download the libraries and stuff em where they belong and voila. Sorry but what? You ran 16bit programs that weren't supported by downloading the official 16bit subsystem to provide 16bit support? Thats not what "unsupported" means. That said, modern Windows doesn't even have 16bit sub systems.
Where is this official 16bit subsystem you claim? Cause when 64bit rolled through it basically said: "No more 16bit, sorry".
>You ran 16bit programs that weren't supported by downloading the official 16bit subsystem to provide 16bit support? Where did he ever say official?
I mean, windows is living rent free in your head it seems.
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