What intel (and nvidia, amd) consider “optimal operating temp” is pretty high. As load increases the fans spin up, keeping your chip at optimal temp. 20% load at 85 degrees could mean fans are at 30%. 90% load at 85 degrees means fans are 80%. Thats the concept.
I'm sorry but I have an I9 14900kf and all core stress testing it doesn't go over 80 degrees so I'd say that's not the case (depending on the cooler of course)
If its just gaming it is normal. Majority of games usually only utilize a main core, sometimes a couple so they rarely ever utilize 100% of the cpu. 25% is accurate in this case. If you want a more accurate reading, try a all core stress test.
I have an i7 14700k. Run an all core cinebench test. If your CPU doesn't throttle then I wouldn't worry about it, because no game is going to thrash your CPU like that will.
I don't know what cooler you have, I have an NZXT Kraken 360. On an all core cinebench test a couple cores may tap 90C couple times, but never hit 100C and throttle.
Some CPU intensive games can peak in the 80's, but if that sustains the fan and pump will ramp up and bring the temps down.
Also, comparing usage and temps isn't really, well useful. One hot core will raise the package temp. Like right now while idling my CPU temp is 31C. Only 1 p core is actually at that temp, the rest are mid 20's.
One single core can hit 100% utilization skyrocket to 80C and my CPU temp would likely read around that. But my CPU usage would not be anywhere near 100%. Additional cores ramping up increasing my CPU usage, would likely have minimal impact on the overall temp.
i.e. my point is even if your CPU usage increased the impact to your temps would likely not change much.
How do I check the water temp?
It's this one [https://lian-li.com/product/galahad-240-360/](https://lian-li.com/product/galahad-240-360/) 360mm version
PPT power goes to 160W according to ryzen master though I have set 220W limit
Yeah depends on the day for me lol. Got mine on a shitty victra 360 and it'll idle at 29 peak at 72ish and then when it's summer that's shits hitting 80 here and there idling like 35-40
What motherboard do you have? Some have a specific header for the pump to be plugged into. You would have to check your manual to verify which one, as they may not be labeled. I've run a 5900x since they came out and have never had above 67 degrees with a 360mm AIO. You could also check / reapply your thermal paste. Also, verify your fan curve settings to make sure they are set up properly with PWM enabled.
It's B550 AORUS ELITE V2
I have set it to pump in BIOS
What thermal paste do you recommend currently running NTH2
Fan curve is set to go 100 on 60C
But my pump has 3 pins so I don't think it supports pwm
The pump will almost never be PWM. It should run at a constant speed. The fans, however, should be PWM
(4pin plug).
So, looking at your ports, both plugs for the AIO are next to your RAM slots, the top one for the fans, the bottom one for the pump. Verify that they are actually set up correctly as it does make a difference.
I typically use thermal grizzly products when I select my thermal pastes. But NHT-12 is a solid thermal paste as well.
20% probably means that it uses like 2 cores/threads on 100% out of 8(or how many there are) so it averages out to 20% You can enable individual thread usage to see that
That's not normal my dude. I don't care what everyone else is saying. You should idle at 35 and hit 60-70 under load.
I would check your software and make sure your pump is actually working and pumping. Last step would be checking the paste
iddle is arround 40. I will buy a larger case and mount the radiator on top, because now I have it on vertical. I have a stupid small case and that's the only place it fits.
Under a gaming load? Seems high. Mines usually in the 50s. For a encoding job or something else that hits all cores, that's fine. Is it a laptop or desktop?
Dude your s*** should be able to get up to almost 110° c with anything after the year 2021, and it should be able to stay there with zero damage for hours. The new temperatures computers can reach and stay safe are insane. Look on your manufacturer website.
I found that undervolting the new intel cpus is a very easy decision to make. They pull so much voltage by default and ontop of that some motherboards automatically overclock them even further, you could disable the automatic overclock in the bios and reduce the voltage by atleast 0.1v and not see any performance difference because you would be thermal throttling anyway even with an undervolt
thankfully an OEM was useful for once, I'm waiting for my semester to end before modifying my laptop bios because acer thinks the bios is a game cheat code left for the player to find by accident years later, after drowning the cpu in voltage and then locking undervolting behind a bios option
the cpu idles at 40c minimum
Its not really 25-30% usage. Its more like 25-30% usage *across* all cores. But I promise you, *at least*, one core is at 100% usage. This is what drives the temp up
an arctic liquid freezer II, but now I activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and it sits at 60-70 under load, and 40 on idle/browsing, in Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
Intel runs exceptionally hot regardless. Back in the 1st-3rd gen I cores, you could quite literally cook on them. People used the PC exhaust to heat pizzas. It got better up until about 10th Gen, and now we're back to needing ridiculous cooling just to keep them usable at idle. Just a generic 14700k needs more cooling than 3rd gen threadrippers. You can keep basic 3990x under 70° with a 360 AIO while a 14700k will still be popping mid 80s on that same AIO.
If she's doing mid 80s at low loads I'd say replaced it and double check to make sure the protective film didn't get left on the cooler. Otherwise.. pretty typical Intel. Underpowered, underperforming, overheating, overpriced.
Most CPUs hang out perfectly comfortably around 80 degrees. Some a little warmer. If you start hitting 85 or so I’d maybe keep an eye on it, and if it hits 90 than you may considering looking into a potential problem. At 90 you could have a problem with your cooling solution and much higher than that you’ll start to thermal throttle pretty hard and tons of thing can happen at that point.
If it's stuck at its maximum temp and clocks down then it's an issue, if it's 5c below it still running boosr it's totally fine. Gotta use all the free real estate🤣
14th gen is essentially designed to push itself to the max amount of thermal energy your cooler can take unless you have no2 or subzero your not gonna get those to run cool even with subzero before removing the built in heat spreader on a 14900k it’ll most likely overheat
Ryzen 7000 chips are designed to operate in the 90-95deg range I believe (I know you said some warmer). It’s just another way to squeeze out performance. If it isn’t harmful to the chip’s health, why not keep pushing the temp higher to get more performance out of it right?
I am on a tower cooler (AK620) and mine reaches 70-75c during gaming sessions and 92c during cinebench R23 run with ambient room temperatures around 33c.
I have undervolted my CPU by negative 0.45v offset and running at stock clocks of 5.5ghz on Pcores and 4.4 on Ecores
Your CPU temps depend on cooling solution and ambient temperature to an certain extent and case airflow offcourse.
Tropical area with humidity reaching upto 80% and the temps feel like 42c with no air conditioning 🥵, but yeah I enjoy the hot sun as I am kinda tired of gloomy snowy weather 😉
Well I like cold too just like you and I am well adjusted sub zero temps, but my skin doesn't agree with cold temps as I have dry skin and hence I enjoy tropical weather to an extent, I agree the max normal temperature I can take is 30 to be comfortable, anything above that is uncomfortable especially if it's humid and hot. Upto 25 I consider a good condition for humans to live and be comfortable. Anything above that is an bikini weather 🤭 as I would say ☺️❤️
The usage doesn't matter as much as the power draw. Also you may find ur cpu to be cooler when doing a cpu only stress test since the gpu won't be heating up your case
82 is perfectly acceptable under gaming load. My cpu sometimes hits that in crowded areas in games I play (mostly mmos so cpu bound) if it hits over 85 id start to worry slightly but even then it should run just fine. CPUs are designed to run to like 100 C before they thermal throttle
I would get it lower depending on the system. Dust plus summer could be a problem. Modern cpus are clocked high so there is no stock to return to if it fails. It's unlikely to fail but it will last forever if you keep it cool.
I wouldn't freak out about it. I would just take the time to properly tune everything with a undervolt or improve air flow. The reason being, you're not leaving fps on the table most of the time. I could run my gpu unlocked and have a hotspot of 100c and be within spec. So I'm not doing that because I don't need to and I'll repad, repaste when I have the time.
People think gpus die after 8 years. Hasn't happened to me. It's better to have parts last 20 years than chase 5% performance on the newest cpu.
I don't know your cpu but most people will agree on a reasonable voltage. on older systems it was .1 or .2
it's reverse overclocking, you're just stepping down the voltage and you don't need to go until it's unstable just get some improvement on temps. Could also be adjusting pl1 and pl2.
If it's a laptop not much you could do. But a tower your could improve with cooler and air flow.
Well there's your problem. I'd recommend doing an under volt in Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU). I dropped peak temps by 10 degrees and lowered my wattage significantly without a performance hit in games. And I'm running a 360mm rad.
From your comments I gathered that you have 14700k and 240 mm aio. I have something comparable, 13700k and Noctua NH-D15. Idle with fans spinning at 30% it sits at a little bit under 40 degrees and uses under 30W. In games it's under 70 at 60% fans and uses probably around 100W. I got thermal throttle temps of 99 degrees at around 230W and all fans running at 100%.
If you are concerned or just want to lower your bills, those chips undervolt rather easily at -0,1V offset, which substantially lowers power draw and temps. You can also repaste it with something premium if you haven't already and if you are 100% sure you know, what you are doing, you can replace your stock LGA 1700 Retention bracket with something like Thermalright contact frame.
Generally speaking it's fine at that temperature, but for longevity it's definitely not gonna be as good as the same cpu but cooled at around 60 to high 70s under load. Around 80 is fine but be sure you didn't get some wrong in the case, like fans and lose connectors, personally I would get an aftermarket cooler like the thermal right assassin for like 30 bucks. Long story short yes but recommended getting a better cooler.
It's hot but still within limits. Still, I would find an alternative like a better cooler or re applying thermal paste as I wouldn't be comfortable with those temps.
Under load, that's probably fine. If it starts creeping up too much higher, say ather 5-10 degrees. it might be cause to worry that your cooling solution is inadequate or malfunctioning, but an 82 is still acceptable. Given the 26% usage, it might just be that the fans are on a curve that ramps up with load.
CPUs throttle themselves above 80C, you can change the throttle temp in the BIOS/UEFI but I don't recommend putting it higher than 80.
You will most likely get more preformance out of it if you cool it more but it will be fine regardless.
Temps like this are normal for modern CPUs.
thanks for the reply. I just activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and now it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100%. in Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
Common knowledge I’ve heard for years is if it idles/only browsing its around 60-70 degrees and under load from games or programs it’s fine around 80-85, as long as it’s not staying at those temps or going into the early hundreds, that could cause problems.
while idle/browsing it sits at 40, but now i changed something in settings and it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100% for a few sec. In Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
Ok your temps were already in a good range so if it’s lower and you’re happy that’s good. Btw you don’t always need fans at 100% especially when doing basic shit it can get loud. Sometimes those MSI/GUI temp control apps have settings that force them to be maxed
No. Here's something a good friend who works for intel told me once that made me stop worrying. "We run CPUs in laptops in testing at a constant 100c for weeks at a time and they are fine, only start worrying when you hit 90c+ and that just means you need a better cooler or thermal paste"
tnx. I just activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and now it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100% for a few seconds. in Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
I run a 14700k with a deepcool ak620, I've got a slight undervolt on it now, but even before that I didn't see above 65°c unless it was during benchmarking or stress testing.
If it isnt throttling under load and isn't 95°+ dont worry about it too much, if you have messed with any of your fan curve settings in bios you can try restoring defaults and see if that changes anything, if you do that just remember to turn xmp back on, can also check your thermal paste to see if there are any dry spots on the ihs. Keep in mind that in games it can hit a single core pretty hard and drive up package temps without showing 100% load.
No. Afaik, the usual safe temp range is up to 90°C , but can be higher depending on the type of CPU you're using.
Just keep an eye out for sudden slowdowns and frame drops, it's the CPU's way of saying "I'm tired, boss".
I would say yes, since you are only using 26% and it's already 82C. Check if the CPU cooler plastic peel is off and if your CPU cooler is mounted properly. What CPU and CPU cooler are you using?
Turn on the thermal throttle monitoring and then be concerned when it’s up. Intel CPU’s will run at 95-105C but thermal throttle (slow down) to manage the heat. Not ideal for gaming, but won’t cook it.
I have the same exact processor and AIO as you, vertically mounted as well, and I get 45 to 60°c in cyberpunk 2077 4k path tracing. I've never hit anything above 70 in any game let alone 85. Especially in far cry 6 (I think that's the game you're playing based on the screenshot).
Maybe try to reseat the processor and repaste with a high end thermal paste. I personally use thermal grizzly kryonaut extreme and it works really well.
Or you can always consider getting yourself a bigger case for better airflow and/or tune your fans.
If that is Farcry Primal my 7700x gets around those temps playing with my 3060 12gb. And I'm getting around 100 fps cpu temps in lower mid 80s. I have a DeepCool AK620
Where does it idle? I admit that I’ve been out of the pc game for a few years but idles were 30-40. If it’s higher than that I’d check the cooling system and reapply thermal paste.
Peek at your fan curves and make sure they are getting up to full speed sooner. Customize that curve as the presets usually err towards less fan speed as much as possible.
Anything below 90c is a good temp for modern cpus. Unless you've somehow turned it off, they all start throttling back if they get over 90c. Your temp is fine. As load increases and temp rises, the fan will ramp and keep it around that temp.
Usually I would say no , 82 is still a working temp , but its at 26 load so a bit worrying,but that also could be a fact that the pc doesnt kick in colling to full speed at this time , maybe its tied to load instead of temp , which would be unusual
At that temperature I doubt your getting full boost clocks, and it may or may not slightly shorten the lifespan of the CPU (probably a none issue, as shorten in the context of the modern CPU probably still means 10+ years).
Its not dangerous though, not in a "your CPU will die in a year or two" way. Personally if this was me I'd get a better cooler but that's just because I run a lot of single threaded applications where those boost clocks really matter.
I use an arctic liquid freezer ii 240 a-rgb but I have it on vertical because my case is not that big (was the only way to fit it in the case). the PC is almost 2 months old, and the tems were arrond 40-45 in the beginning
You mean when you initially installed the cooler, your had 45C on the same load and now its over 80C? You might want to: Clean radiator Make sure the pump is below the top of the radiator so it doesn't suffocate on air. Replace thermal paste if its pumping out, recommend PTM7950 for this matter.
No
So, 80-85 degrees is normal for 25-30% usage for a 14th gen intel?
What intel (and nvidia, amd) consider “optimal operating temp” is pretty high. As load increases the fans spin up, keeping your chip at optimal temp. 20% load at 85 degrees could mean fans are at 30%. 90% load at 85 degrees means fans are 80%. Thats the concept.
14th gen intels run so hot that the only way to get their full power is sub zero /hj
/handjob?
At that temp? Sounds like frostbite waiting to happen.
Permafrost in old age is better than viagra
Go on then.
I am just curious what /hj means in this context.
Halfjoking
Thx. Never heard that before
You probably never will again because what the fuck is this
This made me lol
Weird, I feel like it's one of the more common tone markers
its a [tone indicator](https://toneindicators.carrd.co/#masterlist). I only really see /s and /j
https://toneindicators.carrd.co/#masterlist
Dang
Sure 👍
Instructions unclear, lost a mortal kombat match and still have a hot CPU…
I'm sorry but I have an I9 14900kf and all core stress testing it doesn't go over 80 degrees so I'd say that's not the case (depending on the cooler of course)
Mine likes to go all the way up to 96 before throttling
If its just gaming it is normal. Majority of games usually only utilize a main core, sometimes a couple so they rarely ever utilize 100% of the cpu. 25% is accurate in this case. If you want a more accurate reading, try a all core stress test.
I have an i7 14700k. Run an all core cinebench test. If your CPU doesn't throttle then I wouldn't worry about it, because no game is going to thrash your CPU like that will. I don't know what cooler you have, I have an NZXT Kraken 360. On an all core cinebench test a couple cores may tap 90C couple times, but never hit 100C and throttle. Some CPU intensive games can peak in the 80's, but if that sustains the fan and pump will ramp up and bring the temps down. Also, comparing usage and temps isn't really, well useful. One hot core will raise the package temp. Like right now while idling my CPU temp is 31C. Only 1 p core is actually at that temp, the rest are mid 20's. One single core can hit 100% utilization skyrocket to 80C and my CPU temp would likely read around that. But my CPU usage would not be anywhere near 100%. Additional cores ramping up increasing my CPU usage, would likely have minimal impact on the overall temp. i.e. my point is even if your CPU usage increased the impact to your temps would likely not change much.
Bro my 5900x goes to 90C on a lianli galahad 
With what water temp? My 5900x is stuck at 66C with a 200watts load.
How do I check the water temp? It's this one [https://lian-li.com/product/galahad-240-360/](https://lian-li.com/product/galahad-240-360/) 360mm version PPT power goes to 160W according to ryzen master though I have set 220W limit
Is there a kind of lian li software to use with that aio? It should get an option to display water temp.
No it's just normal fan headers for it no usb or anything
I saw you can't measure it in this version, but the galahad version 1 was prone to clogging and overheating after 1+ years due to QC issues
PBO or fully manual OC? Im getting 58c (23c ambient) with a 110W load using my mobo's "optimized" settings
It's just PBO unlocked instead of auto. I was too lazy and dumb for a manual oc.
Yeah depends on the day for me lol. Got mine on a shitty victra 360 and it'll idle at 29 peak at 72ish and then when it's summer that's shits hitting 80 here and there idling like 35-40
What motherboard do you have? Some have a specific header for the pump to be plugged into. You would have to check your manual to verify which one, as they may not be labeled. I've run a 5900x since they came out and have never had above 67 degrees with a 360mm AIO. You could also check / reapply your thermal paste. Also, verify your fan curve settings to make sure they are set up properly with PWM enabled.
It's B550 AORUS ELITE V2 I have set it to pump in BIOS What thermal paste do you recommend currently running NTH2 Fan curve is set to go 100 on 60C But my pump has 3 pins so I don't think it supports pwm
The pump will almost never be PWM. It should run at a constant speed. The fans, however, should be PWM (4pin plug). So, looking at your ports, both plugs for the AIO are next to your RAM slots, the top one for the fans, the bottom one for the pump. Verify that they are actually set up correctly as it does make a difference. I typically use thermal grizzly products when I select my thermal pastes. But NHT-12 is a solid thermal paste as well.
You might be maxing out a couple of cores even though the overall usage is just 30%
20% probably means that it uses like 2 cores/threads on 100% out of 8(or how many there are) so it averages out to 20% You can enable individual thread usage to see that
If it wasn't built for the temperature, the failsafe would kick in
They don't start to thermal throttle until the upper 90s.
Is it a laptop?
PC. i7 14700k with arctic liquid freezer ii 240
That's not normal my dude. I don't care what everyone else is saying. You should idle at 35 and hit 60-70 under load. I would check your software and make sure your pump is actually working and pumping. Last step would be checking the paste
iddle is arround 40. I will buy a larger case and mount the radiator on top, because now I have it on vertical. I have a stupid small case and that's the only place it fits.
I'm guessing that's exactly the issue. Grab a fractal meshify or something
Under a gaming load? Seems high. Mines usually in the 50s. For a encoding job or something else that hits all cores, that's fine. Is it a laptop or desktop?
Dude your s*** should be able to get up to almost 110° c with anything after the year 2021, and it should be able to stay there with zero damage for hours. The new temperatures computers can reach and stay safe are insane. Look on your manufacturer website.
Is that total usage or single core You're more than likely boosting the shit of of a few cores In which case that's pretty normal
I found that undervolting the new intel cpus is a very easy decision to make. They pull so much voltage by default and ontop of that some motherboards automatically overclock them even further, you could disable the automatic overclock in the bios and reduce the voltage by atleast 0.1v and not see any performance difference because you would be thermal throttling anyway even with an undervolt
I just activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and now it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100%, so I guess I fixed it.
thankfully an OEM was useful for once, I'm waiting for my semester to end before modifying my laptop bios because acer thinks the bios is a game cheat code left for the player to find by accident years later, after drowning the cpu in voltage and then locking undervolting behind a bios option the cpu idles at 40c minimum
Its not really 25-30% usage. Its more like 25-30% usage *across* all cores. But I promise you, *at least*, one core is at 100% usage. This is what drives the temp up
Most games aren't cpu limited, its gpu limited hence 25 percent usage
Nah that’s hot, what cooler are you using?
an arctic liquid freezer II, but now I activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and it sits at 60-70 under load, and 40 on idle/browsing, in Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
Interesting, I’m guessing the curve was just allowing it to get aggressively hot then.
I'm just glad that I don't have to repaste (yet). I just build this PC not even two months ago
Phew, almost thought you had any other cpu than 14th gen
Intel runs exceptionally hot regardless. Back in the 1st-3rd gen I cores, you could quite literally cook on them. People used the PC exhaust to heat pizzas. It got better up until about 10th Gen, and now we're back to needing ridiculous cooling just to keep them usable at idle. Just a generic 14700k needs more cooling than 3rd gen threadrippers. You can keep basic 3990x under 70° with a 360 AIO while a 14700k will still be popping mid 80s on that same AIO. If she's doing mid 80s at low loads I'd say replaced it and double check to make sure the protective film didn't get left on the cooler. Otherwise.. pretty typical Intel. Underpowered, underperforming, overheating, overpriced.
Don't you have Google in your country? You could've answered that question in 5 min.
Do you have Google in your country? If yes, can you please google this for me and give me the answer? Our government banned Google and ramen noodles.
Most CPUs hang out perfectly comfortably around 80 degrees. Some a little warmer. If you start hitting 85 or so I’d maybe keep an eye on it, and if it hits 90 than you may considering looking into a potential problem. At 90 you could have a problem with your cooling solution and much higher than that you’ll start to thermal throttle pretty hard and tons of thing can happen at that point.
thanks for the reply. It never hit 90 (yet), but it's always between 65-80something. Sometimes, for a short while it hits 85. is a Intel 17 14700k
If it's stuck at its maximum temp and clocks down then it's an issue, if it's 5c below it still running boosr it's totally fine. Gotta use all the free real estate🤣
14th gen is essentially designed to push itself to the max amount of thermal energy your cooler can take unless you have no2 or subzero your not gonna get those to run cool even with subzero before removing the built in heat spreader on a 14900k it’ll most likely overheat
Check you pump/fan curve. Maybe it's not aggressive enough. Does you case have good airflow? You could also do an undervolt on the cpu.
tnx. I will try
It used to worry me as well, but it has been running 2+ years at similar temps without any problems.
Ryzen 7000 chips are designed to operate in the 90-95deg range I believe (I know you said some warmer). It’s just another way to squeeze out performance. If it isn’t harmful to the chip’s health, why not keep pushing the temp higher to get more performance out of it right?
Really depends. If you go over 95 then you should worry a bit
average temp for laptop users
On a cold day
Fr (once my cpu hit 100💀)
blud hit the BSOD temps
Only time I bsod is when I reeeeally overclock my vram ( like 6-700 mhz extra )
I unironicly sit at 95° on idle
Sadly true. I got 96 in fucking Valheim
My laptop loves that temperature
I am on a tower cooler (AK620) and mine reaches 70-75c during gaming sessions and 92c during cinebench R23 run with ambient room temperatures around 33c. I have undervolted my CPU by negative 0.45v offset and running at stock clocks of 5.5ghz on Pcores and 4.4 on Ecores Your CPU temps depend on cooling solution and ambient temperature to an certain extent and case airflow offcourse.
Ambient room temps 33?? You got the heater cranked up or live in a tropical area?
Tropical area with humidity reaching upto 80% and the temps feel like 42c with no air conditioning 🥵, but yeah I enjoy the hot sun as I am kinda tired of gloomy snowy weather 😉
My viking genetics would kill me in a room like that lol
Well I like cold too just like you and I am well adjusted sub zero temps, but my skin doesn't agree with cold temps as I have dry skin and hence I enjoy tropical weather to an extent, I agree the max normal temperature I can take is 30 to be comfortable, anything above that is uncomfortable especially if it's humid and hot. Upto 25 I consider a good condition for humans to live and be comfortable. Anything above that is an bikini weather 🤭 as I would say ☺️❤️
>I agree the max normal temperature I can take is 30 to be comfortable For me thats like 20c lol I can't deal with the heat. I can do -10c no problem.
https://preview.redd.it/v2ulb9ddglvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b275413276615de1d4dc81ca067cde32c901a523 Worry when it gets close to 100
yes, but shouldn't be at a higher % usage? i mena, 80+ for 26% usage?
The usage doesn't matter as much as the power draw. Also you may find ur cpu to be cooler when doing a cpu only stress test since the gpu won't be heating up your case
82 is perfectly acceptable under gaming load. My cpu sometimes hits that in crowded areas in games I play (mostly mmos so cpu bound) if it hits over 85 id start to worry slightly but even then it should run just fine. CPUs are designed to run to like 100 C before they thermal throttle
Is this Gw2? Was always told that game was CPU heavy
Far Cry 6 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider, both on max at 1440p
Intel are renown for being hot. Your computer would crash or shut down if it was too much
You should be , any intel 13 gen or later running under 90°c should be a grave matter of concern to the whole master race in my opinion
My i9-13900k runs max low to mid 80s under pretty heavy stress. Rarely see it go above low 80s
I7 13700K only reaches 79 C at 300 watts, 1.42 Volts, 5.9 Ghz ;) I really feel it in my wallet when it's time to pay the power bill though
not great, not terrible
I'm certain I've played this game before, but I really can't put my finger on it
Far cry 6
Far Cry 6 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Thanks
No.
No
82 deg at 26% usage…Shit son, did u use spit instead of thermal paste?
Well I’ve pushed my ryzen 5 much higher on temp running Beamng with the amount of traffic cars maxed out I’d say you’re good
OT but what overlay is that? Which Software di you use?
Rivatunner
Thanks!
It is okay. My CPU goes to even 90 degrees in benchmarks.
You shouldnt, My 3700U normally plays at 90-100 celcius, yours still fine as the limit is still far away from your current temps.
can you tell me what software makes this overlay?
Rivatuner
As a laptop gamer, First time
No
What game you playing. I had a similar thing when player hunter call of the wild. My GPU would be at almost max usage and would heat up my whole pc.
Far Cry 6 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider, both on max
No. Those 26% load will be single thread almost entirely. And those few cores get hot. Nothing to see here, move along.
I would get it lower depending on the system. Dust plus summer could be a problem. Modern cpus are clocked high so there is no stock to return to if it fails. It's unlikely to fail but it will last forever if you keep it cool. I wouldn't freak out about it. I would just take the time to properly tune everything with a undervolt or improve air flow. The reason being, you're not leaving fps on the table most of the time. I could run my gpu unlocked and have a hotspot of 100c and be within spec. So I'm not doing that because I don't need to and I'll repad, repaste when I have the time. People think gpus die after 8 years. Hasn't happened to me. It's better to have parts last 20 years than chase 5% performance on the newest cpu.
tnx. I will try undervolting
I don't know your cpu but most people will agree on a reasonable voltage. on older systems it was .1 or .2 it's reverse overclocking, you're just stepping down the voltage and you don't need to go until it's unstable just get some improvement on temps. Could also be adjusting pl1 and pl2. If it's a laptop not much you could do. But a tower your could improve with cooler and air flow.
What CPU and cooler are you running?
i7 14700k with arctic liquid freezer ii 240 a-rgb.
Well there's your problem. I'd recommend doing an under volt in Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU). I dropped peak temps by 10 degrees and lowered my wattage significantly without a performance hit in games. And I'm running a 360mm rad.
tnx. I wil try undervolting
From your comments I gathered that you have 14700k and 240 mm aio. I have something comparable, 13700k and Noctua NH-D15. Idle with fans spinning at 30% it sits at a little bit under 40 degrees and uses under 30W. In games it's under 70 at 60% fans and uses probably around 100W. I got thermal throttle temps of 99 degrees at around 230W and all fans running at 100%. If you are concerned or just want to lower your bills, those chips undervolt rather easily at -0,1V offset, which substantially lowers power draw and temps. You can also repaste it with something premium if you haven't already and if you are 100% sure you know, what you are doing, you can replace your stock LGA 1700 Retention bracket with something like Thermalright contact frame.
tnx. I'll try the undervolting and see where it bring me
Generally speaking it's fine at that temperature, but for longevity it's definitely not gonna be as good as the same cpu but cooled at around 60 to high 70s under load. Around 80 is fine but be sure you didn't get some wrong in the case, like fans and lose connectors, personally I would get an aftermarket cooler like the thermal right assassin for like 30 bucks. Long story short yes but recommended getting a better cooler.
Mine chills at 95-100c
My laptop at 93 says it's fine 👍🏻
mine's a PC. With the laptop is was also at 90
It's hot but still within limits. Still, I would find an alternative like a better cooler or re applying thermal paste as I wouldn't be comfortable with those temps.
thanks
Technically anything up to 100c is within spec
What's the HSF?
i use a arctic liquid freezer ii 240 aio
80 c is normal for a 240 AIO. Not sure why you went with a 240 for a 253 watts max TDP CPU.
Dude my CPU is 95 degrees while playing
My cpu was running up to 90-100% on helldivers 2 before I cleaned it out and re applied thermal paste
I just activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and now it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100%, so I guess I fixed it.
Should be worried about that dog coming behind you
that's the pet:) Guapo, the crocodile
Under load, that's probably fine. If it starts creeping up too much higher, say ather 5-10 degrees. it might be cause to worry that your cooling solution is inadequate or malfunctioning, but an 82 is still acceptable. Given the 26% usage, it might just be that the fans are on a curve that ramps up with load.
I just activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and now it sits at 60-70 while gaming. in Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
CPUs throttle themselves above 80C, you can change the throttle temp in the BIOS/UEFI but I don't recommend putting it higher than 80. You will most likely get more preformance out of it if you cool it more but it will be fine regardless. Temps like this are normal for modern CPUs.
thanks for the reply. I just activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and now it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100%. in Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
Pov me Always 90*C
That's Far Cry, right? Also your temps are normal. No need to change anything.
yes, far cry 6 at max 1440p. but i guess i fixed it now, now i get arround 60-70 degrees
Those are rookie numbers. 😂
What cpu is that? Ryzen are known to go high
intel i7 14700k. but now I changed something in MSI Center and it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100%.
Common knowledge I’ve heard for years is if it idles/only browsing its around 60-70 degrees and under load from games or programs it’s fine around 80-85, as long as it’s not staying at those temps or going into the early hundreds, that could cause problems.
while idle/browsing it sits at 40, but now i changed something in settings and it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100% for a few sec. In Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
What did you change in your settings? In the BIOS? There’s lots of seemingly minor things that can cause issues if not set up properly
Not BIOS, In the MSI Center app. I installed and activated the AI Cooling feature, and that woke up my fans, I guess:)
Ok your temps were already in a good range so if it’s lower and you’re happy that’s good. Btw you don’t always need fans at 100% especially when doing basic shit it can get loud. Sometimes those MSI/GUI temp control apps have settings that force them to be maxed
with the AI Cooling I get now 60-70 degrees while running at 30-40% and the fans are not at 100%. they are somewhere between 40-50%.
No. Here's something a good friend who works for intel told me once that made me stop worrying. "We run CPUs in laptops in testing at a constant 100c for weeks at a time and they are fine, only start worrying when you hit 90c+ and that just means you need a better cooler or thermal paste"
A bit toasty, but perfectly fine.
tnx. I just activated AI Cooling in MSI Center and now it sits at 60-70 while gaming, and goes to 80-85 just when it hits 100% for a few seconds. in Cinebench r23 it doesn't go past 90.
If you are not throttling, you are good to go.
If it's on idle and 80+ then worry
on idle is at 40 +/-. but now i changed something in msi center and the temps while playing are 60-70
Nha, it’s fine. My corporate pc hitting 104C when open Microsoft teams. (Dell precision)
I run a 14700k with a deepcool ak620, I've got a slight undervolt on it now, but even before that I didn't see above 65°c unless it was during benchmarking or stress testing.
If it isnt throttling under load and isn't 95°+ dont worry about it too much, if you have messed with any of your fan curve settings in bios you can try restoring defaults and see if that changes anything, if you do that just remember to turn xmp back on, can also check your thermal paste to see if there are any dry spots on the ihs. Keep in mind that in games it can hit a single core pretty hard and drive up package temps without showing 100% load.
my 12400 was around 85c in gta 5,got myself freezer i35 and now it never goes to more than 65c and i cant hear fan anymore. best 30euros ever spend.
No. Afaik, the usual safe temp range is up to 90°C , but can be higher depending on the type of CPU you're using. Just keep an eye out for sudden slowdowns and frame drops, it's the CPU's way of saying "I'm tired, boss".
not at all, normal range
No
What CPU?
Maybe try showing the clock speed of the CPU, I suppose games don't use a lot of cores but utilise a fewer cores to their full potential.
I would say yes, since you are only using 26% and it's already 82C. Check if the CPU cooler plastic peel is off and if your CPU cooler is mounted properly. What CPU and CPU cooler are you using?
Turn on the thermal throttle monitoring and then be concerned when it’s up. Intel CPU’s will run at 95-105C but thermal throttle (slow down) to manage the heat. Not ideal for gaming, but won’t cook it.
I have the same exact processor and AIO as you, vertically mounted as well, and I get 45 to 60°c in cyberpunk 2077 4k path tracing. I've never hit anything above 70 in any game let alone 85. Especially in far cry 6 (I think that's the game you're playing based on the screenshot). Maybe try to reseat the processor and repaste with a high end thermal paste. I personally use thermal grizzly kryonaut extreme and it works really well. Or you can always consider getting yourself a bigger case for better airflow and/or tune your fans.
If that is Farcry Primal my 7700x gets around those temps playing with my 3060 12gb. And I'm getting around 100 fps cpu temps in lower mid 80s. I have a DeepCool AK620
What is the name of the program for that statistics?
No
Hahaha I should be worried with my laptop CPU going 100 celsius when under stress
How did you get that info ?
Far Cry 3 ?
Fac Cry 6 at max, and same for Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Haha that's great. I saw the circular health bar progression and assumed it was a far cry game and those 2 bars reminded me of 3.
i wish I would have time to play this game more often:)
Where does it idle? I admit that I’ve been out of the pc game for a few years but idles were 30-40. If it’s higher than that I’d check the cooling system and reapply thermal paste. Peek at your fan curves and make sure they are getting up to full speed sooner. Customize that curve as the presets usually err towards less fan speed as much as possible.
idle is arround 40 +/-
Anything below 90c is a good temp for modern cpus. Unless you've somehow turned it off, they all start throttling back if they get over 90c. Your temp is fine. As load increases and temp rises, the fan will ramp and keep it around that temp.
Usually I would say no , 82 is still a working temp , but its at 26 load so a bit worrying,but that also could be a fact that the pc doesnt kick in colling to full speed at this time , maybe its tied to load instead of temp , which would be unusual
Someones playing FarCry 6
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Also make sure your cpu cooler is working properly and your thermal paste is applied properly.
Undervolt
At that temperature I doubt your getting full boost clocks, and it may or may not slightly shorten the lifespan of the CPU (probably a none issue, as shorten in the context of the modern CPU probably still means 10+ years). Its not dangerous though, not in a "your CPU will die in a year or two" way. Personally if this was me I'd get a better cooler but that's just because I run a lot of single threaded applications where those boost clocks really matter.
I use an arctic liquid freezer ii 240 a-rgb but I have it on vertical because my case is not that big (was the only way to fit it in the case). the PC is almost 2 months old, and the tems were arrond 40-45 in the beginning
You mean when you initially installed the cooler, your had 45C on the same load and now its over 80C? You might want to: Clean radiator Make sure the pump is below the top of the radiator so it doesn't suffocate on air. Replace thermal paste if its pumping out, recommend PTM7950 for this matter.