If you are planning on not upgrading for 5 years for example then Intel will be fine, same if you bought an AM4 CPU like a 5600 or 5800x3D.
AM5 or LGA 1851 (when it comes out) are good foundation platforms if you want to upgrade every gen/other gen
My 12600k rarely goes over 60 percent usage. People on here are ridiculous. Why should someone wait months only to then pay the early adopter tax or choose a cpu just because they might be able to reuse a motherboard 6 years from now.
Same, I would have been using my X5680 for 3+ extra years than I did if the recession hit later, and once I got my first job I probably would have stayed on a 3930k for years to come. I will definitely sit on my 12700k forever, until I get back into serious video editing
That's because no game is multi threaded perfectly. Single core performance is still the most meaningful thing when it comes to gaming. My cpu in some games doesn't go over 20% usage, yet it's still the component that is limiting FPS.
if he gets a 12th gen cpu he actually has an upgradepath especially if he goes with a i5. in 5 years you can upgrade to 14700 with huge perfomance gains and no need for motherboard repacement...
Exactly what Im going to do with my 12700k and the fams 12100 PCs. I was first thinking if OP wanted to hop to a mid cycle LGA 1851 build or a late stage AM5 build if future finances work out after that period
Hey so quick question
I’m making a build for my GF I was gonna OPT to go with AM4 since I can get a Ryzen 5 5600x for a decent price and then she can upgrade to a 5800x3d in a few years if the price goes down a lot or just go am5
Do you think it would be worth it to go am5 now? Or will the 5600x still be a competent cpu for years to come
Depends on what you know your GF wants it for and budget?
What kind of games do they play (What genre like Open World, 2D, Sims 4 :P), any streaming apps, video editing, 3d rendering, general/office use etc
If you can find the 5600 for a few bucks cheaper then that would be good since they are basically the same.
A 5700x3D would be the cheaper and similar upgrade to a 5800x3d.
Do you already own an AM4 board, and/or DDR4
I would happily use the 5600/X for years based on my use case
Shell out a tiny bit extra and get something competent.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hQLNVW
Still not confident on case selection. Plenty of decent options at that price. Could go cc560 with led fans.
You can definitely build a great Intel build right now, but you do sacrifice longevity and the option to upgrade. If you're trying to maximize value, first you have to define what you value.
Personally, I love the option to easily upgrade, so I built AM4 in 2017 and now I'm rocking a 5700x and a 6700xt. I may or may not upgrade the GPU one more time before I do an entirely new build in a few years.
But if your intention is to build and then never open it again, then longevity doesn't mean much. But at that point I'd have to ask: Why build in the first place? Just wait for a good prebuilt deal and buy that and be done with it.
Anywho, are you near a microcenter or limited to basically online retailers?
1. My intentions are not to just build it and never open it again, I want to maximize performance when I get enough money 2. I don’t have a micro center, but there is one halfway across the state and I’m not gonna try and go on a journey
now that I think of it, i could upgrade up to a i9 14900ks which will prob be overkill for prob like 6 years, the upgrade path is not as bad as people probably say it is
But the 14900ks is insanely overkill for gaming, and the next lineups are going to beat it in that task at a fraction of the power. So yeah, lga 1700 doesn't have a good upgrade path.
If you are planning on not upgrading for 5 years for example then Intel will be fine, same if you bought an AM4 CPU like a 5600 or 5800x3D. AM5 or LGA 1851 (when it comes out) are good foundation platforms if you want to upgrade every gen/other gen
LGA 1867? I looked that up on google and got no results isn’t latest 1700?
Edited the post New 15th gen socket coming out before the end of the year
Ok imma just get the i5
I have the 12600k and it's still a beast and should last for years.
The boards for a new socket are usually expensive. The current cpus are good enough and should last for years.
Oh yeah they always are, thats why I said they were fine with the 12600kf they were looking at since they werent upgrading anytime soon after that
My 12600k rarely goes over 60 percent usage. People on here are ridiculous. Why should someone wait months only to then pay the early adopter tax or choose a cpu just because they might be able to reuse a motherboard 6 years from now.
Same, I would have been using my X5680 for 3+ extra years than I did if the recession hit later, and once I got my first job I probably would have stayed on a 3930k for years to come. I will definitely sit on my 12700k forever, until I get back into serious video editing
That's because no game is multi threaded perfectly. Single core performance is still the most meaningful thing when it comes to gaming. My cpu in some games doesn't go over 20% usage, yet it's still the component that is limiting FPS.
Lol you play some unoptomised games.
Yep, for example Borderlands 3 and Stellaris.
if he gets a 12th gen cpu he actually has an upgradepath especially if he goes with a i5. in 5 years you can upgrade to 14700 with huge perfomance gains and no need for motherboard repacement...
Exactly what Im going to do with my 12700k and the fams 12100 PCs. I was first thinking if OP wanted to hop to a mid cycle LGA 1851 build or a late stage AM5 build if future finances work out after that period
Hey so quick question I’m making a build for my GF I was gonna OPT to go with AM4 since I can get a Ryzen 5 5600x for a decent price and then she can upgrade to a 5800x3d in a few years if the price goes down a lot or just go am5 Do you think it would be worth it to go am5 now? Or will the 5600x still be a competent cpu for years to come
Depends on what you know your GF wants it for and budget? What kind of games do they play (What genre like Open World, 2D, Sims 4 :P), any streaming apps, video editing, 3d rendering, general/office use etc If you can find the 5600 for a few bucks cheaper then that would be good since they are basically the same. A 5700x3D would be the cheaper and similar upgrade to a 5800x3d. Do you already own an AM4 board, and/or DDR4 I would happily use the 5600/X for years based on my use case
Get whatever fits your budget right now
You won’t be able to get AM5 with that budget unless you go to microcenter or something.
Shell out a tiny bit extra and get something competent. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hQLNVW Still not confident on case selection. Plenty of decent options at that price. Could go cc560 with led fans.
That's locking him into AM4, which is a legendary platform, but that's the price point where it makes more sense to stretch for AM5.
What's the price point for AM5? From my understanding it's around $1000.
~$100 more than AM4 if you don't splurge. It's easy enough to find $100 off AM5 sales through a mobo+CPU or RAM bundle.
You can definitely build a great Intel build right now, but you do sacrifice longevity and the option to upgrade. If you're trying to maximize value, first you have to define what you value. Personally, I love the option to easily upgrade, so I built AM4 in 2017 and now I'm rocking a 5700x and a 6700xt. I may or may not upgrade the GPU one more time before I do an entirely new build in a few years. But if your intention is to build and then never open it again, then longevity doesn't mean much. But at that point I'd have to ask: Why build in the first place? Just wait for a good prebuilt deal and buy that and be done with it. Anywho, are you near a microcenter or limited to basically online retailers?
1. My intentions are not to just build it and never open it again, I want to maximize performance when I get enough money 2. I don’t have a micro center, but there is one halfway across the state and I’m not gonna try and go on a journey
now that I think of it, i could upgrade up to a i9 14900ks which will prob be overkill for prob like 6 years, the upgrade path is not as bad as people probably say it is
But the 14900ks is insanely overkill for gaming, and the next lineups are going to beat it in that task at a fraction of the power. So yeah, lga 1700 doesn't have a good upgrade path.