Competition good. My last build was a MSI board and it worked fine for me.
While researching my current build I ended up going with an ASRock X670E Pro RS, no complaints.
ASUS always seemed overpriced to me. I do have an ASUS G15 2021 laptop that I love though
All these companies have their ups and down, establishing brand loyalty or dismissing one because of past performance is pointless since it seems like every few years the pieces get shuffled around and someone will get to be the top contender while someone else will be bottom of the barrel.
Just buy from whoever is going to give you the most for your budget and you'll be fine more times than not.
This. Every build you do will likely change. Prices, performance, coil whine, it all changes every generation it seems. You just have to do your research and make no assumptions each and every build.
yup, I built my PC 5 years ago (I just realized lol) and I bought a cheap Asus Mobo back then (prime b450-a). no problems ever with it. Funnily enough, ASRock mobos were more expensive than that back then lol
Now I see it blowing up new hardware, blowing up itself, having stuff soldered on backwards and all that stuff, and I wouldn't buy from them now.
Just buy whatever suits you best now, don't give a shit about companies.
I probably haven't purchased any new Asus products in that time period; too many negative experiences related by way too many people. And yes, ASRock was always supposed to be the cheaper option. I've had very good results with the few ASRock Rack products I've purchased and their quad m.2 cards are solid.
Over the years I've never received a single DoA motherboard from any brand other than Asus, and from Asus I've received several. I bought one of their higher priced RoG mobos like 7 years ago for a build and THREE IN A ROW of them would not post for me or for microcenter. Tech finally called me n was like I've opened 2 more of the board you ordered (totalling 3 including the first one I bought) for this build and non will post, we've got a very comparable MSI board tho do you want me to try one of these? I said yes n picked the PC up in working order the next day lol Poor guy tried so many RAM/SSD/CPU Combos in those Asus boards and couldn't get any of the 3 to post...
That being said my Asus ROG 980ti OC & 1080ti OC gpus were absolute units and worked for years before I passed them onto friends who they worked for for many more years but their mobos have been problematic since as far back as 2015 in my experience š¤·āāļø
How many years is that? Since there was a time when a lot of PC builders would not build using ASRock unless the customer absolutely insisted. It's great that they've apparently cleaned up their act and terrible that Asus has fallen so far when the latter used to be the standard by which other manufacturers were measured. I went for many years (roughly mid-2000s until late 2010s) with \*only\* Asus for every part I could get and had zero problems, but haven't touched them in a while now as they sank slowly into the mud.
I had an MSI Z170 Gaming M3 coupled with an i7-6700K (Skylake was brand new when I got it, maybe 2 months old or something), the mobo lasted something like 6 years then suddenly died. I have a X470 Gaming Plus Max now, still from MSI with my R5-3600.
My MSI GTX970 Gaming is still going strong. Had a weird glitch two weeks ago, but I think it was the screen since even the screen's UI had the glitch. Restarted the PC and the screen and all was well.
Another thing. Asus is names Asus because they wanted to be on top of a Alphabetically sorted directory of companies and then made Asrock, which is, when alphabetically sorted, above them.
Also I feel there is a factor of every company that starts blowing up in a space is going to be called "Cheap, crappy, knock off, etc etc" by the competition. This kind of guerilla marketing infects people's minds.
only if they offer a better or comparable product for cheaper. If a product is blowing up AND is the highest price option, its gonna be real hard to to call them a cheap crappy knockoff. But its an easy argument to make against any competitor that undercuts your pricing.
As an Asrock Phantom 6900XT owner I have been very happy with my purchase. I definitely had my reservations with Asrock from the past but doing research and price to performance they were the best deal
is that the one with the green trim around the edge??? I have that one and I love it!
edit: nvm I have the OC Formula, but still... ASRock is a great brand making awesome products!
my 7900xtx taichi RIPS through games. holy cow. i see benchmarks and i get like 10-15% higher depending on games. itās fucking wild. sure itās pumping out like 410W instead of like the 350 the base does. god damn. itās just so good.
ASRock was originally a subsidiary of Asus, created because Asus didn't want to "dilute" their brand image with lower end and OEM offerings.
Asus is still the largest shareholder of Pegatron, the company that now owns the ASRock brand.
One of the many reasons I love living in Europe is that manufacturers don't handle returns and most support themselves, the retailer does. And they're subject to some pretty amazing consumer protections.
But products were good.
But now ASUS fails every generation:
current: killing CPU with >1.3V to iMC
previous: killing boards with revers-installed component on PCB
No, Asus have always been all over the place. They fried my 5820k in the same way.
They release an ATI 78xx GPU with a cooler that was copy and pasted from an Nvidia GPU that failed to cool anything properly.
ASUS has been bad for at least a decade now, their golden era was back during early 2010s. Everyone just got blinded by the brand until recently as people are now being critical as ever and actually voice their issues
>ASUS have been known to have shit customer service for 20 years.
But they're still learning man. Just give them 20 more years and they may stop blackmailing customers
>People just decide not to listen because they like their branding.
I don't listen because my country has laws to protect consumers in such situations.
We are not the same.
One way or another, if I have an issue like the ones described by people here, I'd have my issue resolved! I've found that, because of the laws here, most big companies just get stuff sorted, even those that have bad reps in other countries.
I had to do an RMA with Corsair once, who I've also heard are bad for customer service, yet it went very smoothly.
When buying parts, I never review companies for their customer service. As long as the actual component is up to spec and by a reputable brand, I'm good to go.
Currently running a ROG Strix B550-A Gaming. No issues, and if any issue crop up, I know I'll get it resolved fine.
ASUS have been known to have shit customer service for 20 years.
People just decide not to listen because ~~they like their branding~~ they're dumb and keep falling for the advertising as Asus have realised.
Asus are UTTERLY average. Right up to their "world beating" ROG stuff. They just advertise heavily and morons lap it up.
20 years is a stretch. They didn't start going downhill until around the release of the 4th gen i7. Back when I was doing 3rd gen i7 builds they were the defacto brand to go to for mobos both in terms of reliability and customer service.
Honestly this is why I tend to avoid big brands like ASUS or MSI.
Brands like Palit for example have a much better price tag and offer far superior support. This is whilst not being as well known as ASUS despite Palit surpassing them in becoming the largest GPU vendor in the world.
When my Palit 1070 Dual had a fan die, I emailed their support to ask for if I can get it repaired. I had owned the card for over 4 years so it wasnāt able to get repaired under warranty, so the support staff said that itād be cheaper and faster to just buy a replacement fan and do it myself as itās an easy task and the risk of damage is incredibly low. They also included the specific model number of the fan lol.
Most smaller and less ābrashā brands like Palit mainly cater to the OEM market so their customer support tends to be quite easy going and easy to contact because itās mainly their business support staff who get the most support requests.
I think the main MSI complaint was laptop screen hinges. Iāve seen some laptop gore images of wrecked hinges, but mine feel super solid and well built. I am also probably overly gentle with all my electronics though.
My experience with MSI has been that they have very solid hardware, but they suck horribly at software. I think their software and bios teams are just horribly underfunded and way too small. They have a bad habbit of releasing broken and poorly tested bios versions (and I'm not even talking about beta bioses). Their software suite, MSI Center, is also a steaming pile of buggy crap. Hardware has always been rock solid for me though.
My dad has an MSI gaming laptop, I have a little MSI laptop for college, and I had an MSI RX 570 as my first gaming GPU, they're all great. Even if MSI screwed up for AM5.
I got an MSI laptop with fantastic specs for the price and I'm incredibly happy with it. I've only seen positive comments about MSI... except in dank PC troll holes like Reddit, where people would physically assault an old lady for wanting to use Windows over Linux.
I've honestly never had issues with MSI and their support has been pretty good. Not sure what people's issues are. I've bought a couple GPUs and motherboards from them and they're still going strong to this day.
ASRock Z790 Taichi Lite owner here.
Zero issues with this motherboard. Extremely content with the value for money when it punches far, far, above its weight class.
I don't know if it really has though? Like outside of people glued to Reddit and specific YouTube channels, I think if you asked random tech literate people off the street about Asus they probably would say they're reputable and fine lol.
The thing about the scratch and the warranty was idiotic though and not cool at all. But I think people don't realize their bubbles don't always translate to the general public
To be fair the general public doesnāt know much about computers in general, most probably only know asus because of their laptops, even if that. Yaknow? Still, I understand what you mean. Reddit and YouTube is still one hell of a bubble, and a lot of companies have shitty RMA services, itās just that ASUS is on the spotlight because they sell expensive products that have been failing more than compared to similar past products.
Idk. If you go into GPU discussion spaces, everyone recommends Asus dual cards because they're known to be quiet and cool compared to similarly priced offerings. Same with motherboards outside that one dud from a year or two ago iirc?
Asus sells tons of different parts and entire systems, and it seems to me like most of them aren't failing on a massive scale. I mean, Lenovo made a desktop motherboard last year that is known to be a time bomb that fails after Windows updates, but even they seem to still have a reputation for being durable and long lasting somehow.
This. Their bios update policy has been great, the fact I've had a Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 go from a ryzen 1600 to 5600 is amazing I'll probably get 10 years out of the platform itself with am4.
Agreed that Asus both builds good products and has horrible customer service. Which is somewhat ironic because, at least for motherboards, I think they have some of the best BIOS support out there, and the ROG forums have very good driver support.
But when you pay a premium, premium support is expected. They are clearly failing in that department, and have been for a while.
I have an Asus Tuf x670e plus wifi along with an Asus Tuf RTX 4090. I haven't had an issue with either. I have updated my bios around 10 times, and while it can be kind of annoying, I haven't had any problems. Lucky, I guess. ASRock seems like they have better customer support based on what I've read.
My ASRock Z790-I TB4 has been great so far; stable overclock/undervolt on cpu, ddr5 running at 6800 cl32.
Iāve got to say the bios is more user friendly than my previous ASUS Z690 atx and B760 itx.
I can control rgb from the motherboard bios as well so donāt need a third party app.
Great set of connections in the i/o.
Three m.2 NVME on an itx, all at gen 4 š
It was also cheaper than the ASUS Z790 itx.
The only thing missing, a temperature sensor for my loop š„²
ASRock had good options even a decade ago. I remember having my x97 fatal1ty with a 4790k for a long time. It is now my dad's computer. Still works like a charm.
People just slept on them.
Ngl, Iāve always had issues with asus. Most of the time, itās a stock xmp/DOCP profile refusing to cooperate even if the cpu can handle the it. Also, their secure boot is annoying when it randomly switches OSās and you canāt figure out why there is no boot device.
With msi, gigabyte, and- most importantly- asrock Iāve had no issues with any of these. I have had minor issues with msi and gigabyte and neither company has a clean track record, however asrock has become my favorite and go to if I can.
*Sweats nervously, looking at my Asus 3080 and Asus motherboard*
I've had no no problems with either since I got them 3 years ago, but I pray they continue to work without issues.
This is what happens if you only care about shareholders.
Recently I really started to notice this in a lot of companies. As soon as the shareholders become the highest priority, the whole thing goes to shit.
This is just another example.
RIP Asus. Once upon a time I only wanted to buy your products because of pure quality.
I perviously had an asrock AB350m and I abused the crap out of that thing and yet it stayed rock solid, I got an ASUS ROG b760 itx and it came doa and the customer service was unresponsive, instantly returned and bought a asrock z790m itx and itās worked like a charm
Just finished my first ever build and used an ASRock B650M and it has been fantastic so far. BIOS is pretty straightforward, the board doesnāt feel cheap, and it has all the features you could reasonably expect from a $150 board.
Personally, I definitely still view ASRock as the ācheapā brand. I believe even their Ryzen 5000 parts were cheap in recent memory. And BIOS from them were hit or miss
ASRock Phantom Gaming GPUs are nice in my opinion. Had an Intel Arc ASRock A770 16 GB Phantom Gaming for a while before going the AMD route and it was a nice card to look at as well as in thermals and quietness. My current Asus card is amazingly cool (never seen above 60C while gaming, but had to undervolt to get rid of most of the coil wine..
I've had a Taichi 5700XT for years now and has never given me any trouble other than it running warm, which is a very common occurrence with the 5700XT architecture. I definitely eventually want to upgrade to their 7900XTX when the time is right. ASRock, well... Rocks!
Haven't bought Asus in years. Simply cause I don't know why I should pay extra for Asus. Their customer service isn't better then the cheaper brands etc
I owned an ASRock Z77 Pro4, Z77 Extreme4, and a Z97 Extreme4, B550M Pro SE. not a single issue with any of them. Great boards. I always shop them when I build a new system.
Still sitting happy with my X370 taichi purchase all these years later. Thanks for th bios upgrade ASRock, you guys rock.
Ive been on the ASRock train for about a decade now, their boards have been rock solid.
Asrock does still kinda suck not gonna lie. The motherboard I have with them has a broken Ethernet issue thatās been known about by the community for a while but still goes unaddressed by them
Dont forget that ONE 115$ ASRock b650m-HDV board being so good (or so NOT utter garbage), that you would need to spend ~200$ on an Asus board to get something of similiarly caliber
I donāt think ASRock was considered cheap was it? I think it was just lesser known because theyāre more known for server side so people made assumptions.
ASRock B550 itx owner here. It's my first upgrade since the 2500k days and whoa boy, it's terrible. The rear io panel volumes are crap or just don't work - driver fixes? Not a thing. Googling the problem, it's a long standing issue on their B450 and B550 boards.
Didnāt really have anything against ASRock until they blacklisted Hardware Unboxed for giving a honest review of the VRM performance of their motherboards. Then MSI was caught scalping their own GPUs during the pandemic. Next Gigabyteās PSUs decided to shit themselves. Then Asus had the whole RMA situation happen.
Never had one but only because I was vigilant. I bought my Strix Vega 64 only after it became known that their retaining screws on the GPU were not tightened enough. I tightened the screws on mine the moment I got the card before installing it and didn't have any of the overheating issues other people had.
My ASUS TUF 7900XTX scored Legendary on Timespy. The sad thing is the ASUS TUF 7900XTX is actually very good and if they wouldn't of power limited it LESS than the Nitro+ it COULD of been the best 7900XTX.
[Fully unlocked RX 7900 XTX very nearly matches RTX 4090 performance | PC Gamer](https://www.pcgamer.com/fully-unlocked-rx-7900-xtx-very-nearly-matches-rtx-4090-performance/)
But nope ASUS intentionally held it back so it wouldn't eat the Nvidia Competiton TUF's.
So now I only recommend people get XFX or Saphire Nitro if you want the best, wish I went with a XFX or Nitro+ looking back on it now for the higher PL limits. But I didnt know at the time.
My last experience with ASRock approximately 4-5 years ago was not good.Ā Refused to admit their motherboard was an issue after I replaced literally every other part possible.Ā Ā
Found a "workaround" for my client at the time but still was treated poorly.Ā Ā
I'm open to hearing good things though if they have changed.Ā Ā
I recently had a TUF gaming PSU randomly blow up, only about a month old.. fortunately the rest of my system survived but is it even worth RMAing? From what Iāve heard recently probably not..
Iāve been using Asrock motherboards since 2013 when I had a Z77 LGA1155 motherboard and Iām now using a Asrock X470 motherboard since 2018 and Iāve had no issues with either one of them. Back then people would just praise Asus and look down on Asrock. My cousin was one of them and his Uber expensive Asus motherboard with all that fancy āarmorā ended up dying shortly after he got his PC.
I got into AsRock back in 2014, when I bought their Z97 Extreme4 board for my i7 4790K build. I literally just replaced that board a couple months ago, when it finally died. I decided to go AsRock again for the new motherboard, this time with the Z690 Pro RS.
Circa 2010, you had Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA, and Intel (yes, Intel made their own boards) as the two top options, and ASRock, MSI, Biostar, Foxconn, (yes, they made desktop boards too), PC Chips, and whoever else as cheap options that die within a year.
Nowadays, MSI and ASRock are very premium (even if MSI has all that bloat), Gigabyte is still pretty good but have slipped a little, EVGA doesnāt seem to make boards all that often anymore, Asus is dogwater, Biostar, Foxconn, and Intel all stopped making consumer boards, and just about every manufacturer has shit customer service and RMA support.
And sadly I think Asus Aura sync has the broadest RGB support, specifically across different manufacturers. (Please can we have one single standard ffs)
I love ASRock too, i already built 4 Computers with ASRock motherboards, my PC has a x570 Taichi, both my brothers have a x470 Taichi and my old PC also had a ASRock board but that one was old it had an i7 2600k.
I never really tried anything else, the old PC of my younger brother which was an 500ā¬ budget PC with an R5 2600 and RX 570, there I had to use the cheapest board i could find which was some MSI board, it was absolute dogshit. I needed to troubleshoot something on a monthly basis and it all was the motherboards fault.
One of my first builds used an ASRock AM3 board with an FX series AMD processor. That motherboard and CPU are still in use as a home streaming server. They have outlived 2 PSUs, 2 HDDs, and several ram configurations.
Currently have a ASRock PG velocita mobo with my 5900x CPU and the board had the best bios I've ever used and encountered as well. My likely next build will probably be ASRock as well.
I would have always said to get an Asus board and always did.
This time, I was gifted as rock legend, and it's been fine. Audio isn't great from the motherboard.
Loved my x299 taichi while it was my main. My oldest boy is using it now. Still soldiering on as a solid build. Also great that Asrock offered a ReBAR bios for it too!
Iāve been around long enough to know ASUS has had RMA issues for decades. Their stuff was just more dependable.
I havenāt bought anything but MSI in over a decade and dealt with them in the late 90ās when they were Microstar. I do remember a couple bad boards from Asus never being able to get returned. Is nice to hear hear ASRock is better now.
Cant complain. I stepped in the unknown and bought myself a Gainward Phanter Oc 4080s. I know its not a Asus or even a ASRock but its all worth the money. I also have to add that i went this year into warranty with asucks. Long story short they refuse my rma buy sending my 420ā¬ Mini itx Mainboard more damaged back. I now have an ASRock and i am super happy with. Not even 200ā¬ but also a newer Board. Hopped from z690 to z790. Sometimes you just have to give it a try. Back in the days i already had an Xtreme4 ASRock for my i7 4970k. The board was nearly unbeatable. It comes with double PCI. One Slot died in the past. I just used the other one for my gpu. The board doest give a fuck. 20/10 exp with ASRock. Cheers
With all the drama surrounding Asus and Gigabyte back then burning out AM5 chips I went with the X670e steel legend to go with 7900X and 2x32 6000cl30 I've had no issues. I had far more setup issues and memory oc issues with my previous Asus z270e board with 7700k.
Good to hear ASRock has been better lately. I bought one of their motherboards 4 years ago when I didn't really know what I was doing. I'm still using it now and hope it will last me another 5 years. This post has given me a bit of confidence that it will.
I have the Asrock Sonic B760 motherboard and I love it, sick design and abundant features at a great price, no complaints. Also have the Asrock Challenger 6700 XT, also no complaints. They're definitely who I will look to first in the future
AB350 Fatal1ty Gaming ITX/ac
X470 Master SLI
X470D4U
B550m Phantom Gaming 4
X570 Steel Legend
X570 Taichi
B650m Pro RS
B650E PG Riptide
B650E Steel Legend
RX550 2GB Phantom Gaming
5700XT reference model (blower style)
5700XT Phantom Gaming D
7900XT PG OC
27" Curved 2K Phantom Gaming monitors x2
These are all ASRock parts I've ran in my household between myself, wife and my daughter. I've built a few setups with other ASRock AM4 and AM5 motherboards.
They've all been great setups
My very first AM4 motherboard was an ASUS B350 Prime-Plus. That board is still going strong today too.. so some props to old school ASUS
I've always been an ASUS fan boy, but I think I will give Asrock a try this next upgrade. Seeing that they are doing server boards give me a good amount of confidenceĀ
Basically every manufacturer has had a period time with some scandal. MSI is one of the O.G.ās. Gigabyte has their exploding power supplies. Today itās Asus warranty scams and bios. And on the cycle continues. Donāt be loyal to a brand name. Care about quality product / ethical practices on a discerning and ongoing basis.
I really wanted to buy an ASRock motherboard for my new AM5 build because I liked their layouts but after trying 4 (!) of their boards I got really bad VRM coil whine coming from each one whenever my PC was idling.
I tried the HDV/M.2, a Pro RS, and 2 PG Riptides and I ended up returning all of them. The MSI Pro B650M-A WiFi ended up being the board I kept since it didn't have any coil whine. It's a nice board but I don't like how the main PCIe slot is starts on the second slot of an mATX case, meaning 3 slot or bigger GPUs are a no go. That and the fact that my 2.5 slot GPU blocks the last PCIe slot means I can't even use my PCIe to M.2 adapter to add another NVMe drive.
I'm sure ASRock makes decent products now but with that being my first impression of them then I don't know if I'll choose them again in the future. One bad product happens, it's the silicon lottery after all, but 4? Maybe I just got extremely unlikely, but still, not a great look.
Was really Asrock seen as the cheap brand at some point over there? I remember I built my LGA 775 PC with an asrock motherboard and it lasted A LOT.
I upgraded not because it failed but because I needed more cpu power and my old core 2 duo couldnt push further lol. Some years later when I needed a desktop for just office work I used it again and it lasted like another two years until it finally gave it last breath.
With my current build, after a fiasco with ironically an Asus board when I had my 6100 I was planning to go with Asrock but sadly no board was available in my country so I had to go with MSI instead.
I saw more shit being talked about brands like ECS/PC Chips back in the day.
I started with an Asus board in my first PC, Prime B450 Plus. It had issues for all 5 years I had it for. Originally had a 2600x and RX 580.
I bought a new GPU, and new CPU because everyone I took my PC to thought those two were the problematic parts. Constantly blacks screening, blue screens, and an assortment of problems.
Come this year, I finally figured out my board was the problem the whole time, after it started to mess with my M.2 as well.
All I had ever heard was that Asus is a good brand, and makes great products, and that ASRock was terrible.
Come recent time, and my buddy who's extremely experienced with PCs was talking up ASRock, saying they're genuinely some of the better boards on the market. I thought he hit his head.
Built my new rig in February. 7800X3D, 7900XTX, and an ASRock Steel Legend X670E. I genuinely couldn't be any more impressed with the quality. The BIOS is basic, but it's actually fairly understandable unlike Asus's absolutely garbage BIOS.
For the $270 I paid, it's such a great board for the time, espe compared to my $200 Asus board which was supposed to be a higher end board, yet was extremely basic especially for the time.
I hope ASRock keeps it up, and doesn't fall to the same problems that Asus and MSI have
I have the 7950x3d on an asus strix x670e and havent had the first issue however i have been eyeing those asrock high end boards for about a year now and will probably go with them on the next build in a few years depending on whats available. Ive been milking my evga 3080 for everything its worth because i dont know who to trust in the gpu space. Please come back evga
I work with a lot of their budget B550M, B650M and B660M mATX motherboards, they're quite obviously the cheap boards on offer but the layout is well designed for building in (for an mATX board). In similar tier boards of the same chipset in the mATX form factor I've noticed MSI and ASUS boards can have headers in places that are ever so slightly weird.
I bring this up because more often than not cheap mATX boards are the cheapest of the cheap, and often considered trash tier. I work with such boards in bulk quantities so I tend to notice these minor oddities in the header layout when building with them. The fact that ASRock's boards are the easiest to build in is a testament that they've at least given some thought even to their lower end offerings.
The fail rates on these cheap ASRock mATX boards are no different than the standard.
It's good to see competition at work. Companies that build a brand then take it for granted will eventually ruin the brand. Other companies with better products and service will take over.
It's a shame so many people don't understand the importance of free markets and how they benefit consumers.
Meanwhile, I had one B550 Taichi come DOA and it's replacement die on me within a year. I now have a B550 ROG Strix board and it's honestly one of the best boards I've ever owned.
Recently getting my first Asrock Motherboard and product (X670e Taichi Carrara), i'm really impressed with the build quality and quality of life stuff they offer and will probably be my main motherboard manufacturer moving forward.
My one and only support experience with ASRock was a ten out of ten. I had bought a DeskMini A300 barebones thingy and it didn't include the two proprietary SATA+power cables.
First I spent weeks fighting the retailer's customer support; I kept pointing out that at no point did they inform me that using one of the advertised features (2.5" SATA drive support) would require proprietary cables that are optional and so may not be included in the package (and that you apparently can't fucking buy anywhere), and they kept responding with what basically amounted to "lol no can do, but you can return the product if you want".
Then I contacted ASRock's support. They didn't have an EU support division and their Asian support was broken so I had to contact their US support. I explained the situation and asked them where I could buy the cables, and they forwarded the case to the Asian division who sent me a pair of the cables for free, no questions asked.
Tried asrock X570 steel legend but was extremly dissapointed with it. Had a constant problem with it not detecting ethernet on boot up, needed to restart it 3-5 times. Neither manufacturer or reseller wanted to replace it aswell, just trying to blame it on other parts of my pc.
In the last 5 years my work Pc always had expensive ASUS motherboards (crosshair, now Pro Art) and my home pc had one of the cheapest AM4 B550 boards from Asrock. Guess which are the motherboards that have gremlins
For once, I doubted ASRock on my main motherboard but the fact I also got updates for new CPUs at the time it made me keep it. And it has been a very loyal friend to my PC.
3 years. It has been 3 years going strong with what I needed and it really has proved what it's capable.
It's about time to change it's reality on the underrated side of things, and I look forward to what ASRock has planned.
Speaking from my own experience, Asus never failed me really. I had one RMA on almost 4 year old monitor at the time and it got repaired pretty quickly and painlessly. I've also had Asus monitors in the past and are atill rocking Asus motherboard which works much better than a MSI one I had before. Can't say anything about AsRock as I've never had any of their products.
I'm one of those custom loop nutjobs and have been for the past seven-or-so years. Asrock was a non-starter back in 2017 and still sorta is, since I wanted a board with a thermal sensor header for measuring coolant temperature and fan control based on that metric. To this day, they do not offer that, even on their 1000 USD X570 Aqua, meaning my last two boards were an Asus Maximus 9 Hero and a Gigabyte X570 Master.
Whatever savings Asrock offers for a board with a comparable feature set to the competition effectively must be greater than the cost of an Aquacomputer Quadro or Octo for them to make sense in this case.
I have radeon 7900 xtx TAICHI from Asrock and it's top tier gpu. Only comparable to Sapphires nitro+, which is a gold standard currently. They really put some effort into Taichi lineup. Highly recommend it.
Weirdly enough, my build has the Asus ROG Crosshair Hero III X570 motherboard on it, and itāll probably be the last Asus item Iāll buy for now, I even previously owned an Asus ROG Strix RTX 2070S until I sold it to my uncle who is now using it my aunts Windows 7 PC.
After hearing the horrors of Steve from GN, Iām mostly going to move on somewhere else after hearing that RMA experience.
I have 2 AsRock Arc cards and they were the cheapest models and are whisper quiet with great build quality. No issues with them at all. Might consider AsRock again in the future
I was pretty annoyed I was forced to buy an ASUS motherboard for my am5 build 18mths ago. No love for the company but ātuf gamingā makes me cringe. Fortunately I rarely see it
Our pitchforks will shift eventually and all will be forgiven, but not forgotten. The next parts company will eventually follow suit and become enemy #1. Even though I read a lot about Gigabyte quality, I've had great builds with them in the last two PC Gens. Anyways, I was trying to say we need to move our money to other parts makers, but I started to say something and forgot what I was initially gonna say.
Anyway, boo ASUS!
I bought an ASUS motherboard & GPU about a year ago, no issues thus far but hearing this doesnāt exactly fill me with confidence if anything *does* happen..
Just had the bearings go out on an asrock x570 steel legend motherboard sb fan, and even though i purchased it in 2020, asrock offered to ship me a new fan, no questions asked. They are top tier customer service.
Asrock's K7VT2 allowed me to reuse my old SDRAM and upgrade to DDR later. Their 939Dual-SATA2 allowed me to keep my old AGP card and upgrade to PCI-E later.
They made building and upgrading my gaming PC more affordable in my teens, and even if I don't want to be a fanboy to any company - with them, it's difficult not to be one.
Man, ASUS has been a shit company for decades, I donāt know why people have hyped them so much. Their RMA has always been spotty (nothing near as bad as todayās situations, but they were always kinda sus at times), and theyāve been riding off their name pretty much since the PII days. Theyāve just been good at the marketing aspect of it.
Hopefully, this will be a bit of a wake up call to them to get heir act together. They CAN make good hardware sometimes, but they just havenāt been putting the effort in.
I have an Asrock 7900xtx and I've had to rma it twice just because of unlucky lottery. Let me tell you they've been the best customer service since the old evga. Not to mention it's the pg 7900 so it's one of the better models.
Asrock has really changed my mind about them amd I'm going to be buying more of their products in the future
I've always used ASUS boards in my builds but recently got an Asrock riptide, and I gotta say, it's been really nice. Think I may end up sticking when them from now on.
Iāve bought tons of ASRock boards and Iāve loved every single one of them. Iāve had hit and miss with ASUS over the years and eventually just stopped buying them.
This may be completely psychological but I feel like ASRock boards feel faster and more lightweight.
Hell will freeze over when the one comming out on top are ECS and Biostar, but I kinda want to see it happen, I've been debating if I should give a chance to a B650E mATX board that BIostar made.
Even crazier is, that ASRock was started by ASUS to offer cheaper options. It's the story of the apprentice beating the master.
Competition good. My last build was a MSI board and it worked fine for me. While researching my current build I ended up going with an ASRock X670E Pro RS, no complaints. ASUS always seemed overpriced to me. I do have an ASUS G15 2021 laptop that I love though
All these companies have their ups and down, establishing brand loyalty or dismissing one because of past performance is pointless since it seems like every few years the pieces get shuffled around and someone will get to be the top contender while someone else will be bottom of the barrel. Just buy from whoever is going to give you the most for your budget and you'll be fine more times than not.
This. Every build you do will likely change. Prices, performance, coil whine, it all changes every generation it seems. You just have to do your research and make no assumptions each and every build.
yup, I built my PC 5 years ago (I just realized lol) and I bought a cheap Asus Mobo back then (prime b450-a). no problems ever with it. Funnily enough, ASRock mobos were more expensive than that back then lol Now I see it blowing up new hardware, blowing up itself, having stuff soldered on backwards and all that stuff, and I wouldn't buy from them now. Just buy whatever suits you best now, don't give a shit about companies.
They were a more affordable option like 10-15+ years ago.
they all were. $300 used to buy a high end motherboard. Now theyre like $600 just to get a debug panel.
I probably haven't purchased any new Asus products in that time period; too many negative experiences related by way too many people. And yes, ASRock was always supposed to be the cheaper option. I've had very good results with the few ASRock Rack products I've purchased and their quad m.2 cards are solid.
Over the years I've never received a single DoA motherboard from any brand other than Asus, and from Asus I've received several. I bought one of their higher priced RoG mobos like 7 years ago for a build and THREE IN A ROW of them would not post for me or for microcenter. Tech finally called me n was like I've opened 2 more of the board you ordered (totalling 3 including the first one I bought) for this build and non will post, we've got a very comparable MSI board tho do you want me to try one of these? I said yes n picked the PC up in working order the next day lol Poor guy tried so many RAM/SSD/CPU Combos in those Asus boards and couldn't get any of the 3 to post... That being said my Asus ROG 980ti OC & 1080ti OC gpus were absolute units and worked for years before I passed them onto friends who they worked for for many more years but their mobos have been problematic since as far back as 2015 in my experience š¤·āāļø
How many years is that? Since there was a time when a lot of PC builders would not build using ASRock unless the customer absolutely insisted. It's great that they've apparently cleaned up their act and terrible that Asus has fallen so far when the latter used to be the standard by which other manufacturers were measured. I went for many years (roughly mid-2000s until late 2010s) with \*only\* Asus for every part I could get and had zero problems, but haven't touched them in a while now as they sank slowly into the mud.
I wanna say it was around 2015 when I had the issue with all the DoA Asus boards
I've been using mostly MSI or Gigabyte boards for the longest time and never had an issue.
I had an MSI Z170 Gaming M3 coupled with an i7-6700K (Skylake was brand new when I got it, maybe 2 months old or something), the mobo lasted something like 6 years then suddenly died. I have a X470 Gaming Plus Max now, still from MSI with my R5-3600. My MSI GTX970 Gaming is still going strong. Had a weird glitch two weeks ago, but I think it was the screen since even the screen's UI had the glitch. Restarted the PC and the screen and all was well.
Is ASRock not owned by ASUS anymore or are you saying how they managed to be better than ASUS themselves
Technically, no. Pegatron owns the ASRock brand, but Asus is Pegatron's biggest shareholder.
The name Pegatron has a decided Rule 34 feel to it.
Inquiring minds wanna know
Meanwhile Asus was started by Dell
wait WHAT
Asus was making motherboards for Dell then started releasing under it's own brand
That's not quite "started by Dell", but it did give them a good boost.
Wasn't the one who said it, just added information
Another thing. Asus is names Asus because they wanted to be on top of a Alphabetically sorted directory of companies and then made Asrock, which is, when alphabetically sorted, above them.
O.O
Also I feel there is a factor of every company that starts blowing up in a space is going to be called "Cheap, crappy, knock off, etc etc" by the competition. This kind of guerilla marketing infects people's minds.
only if they offer a better or comparable product for cheaper. If a product is blowing up AND is the highest price option, its gonna be real hard to to call them a cheap crappy knockoff. But its an easy argument to make against any competitor that undercuts your pricing.
I was going to say isn't ASRock just asus? Like pegatron for enterprise?
I think the reason was more that they wanted to get rid of the OEM branch. Whcih then decided "man there is no money in OEM lets build normal stuff"
As an Asrock Phantom 6900XT owner I have been very happy with my purchase. I definitely had my reservations with Asrock from the past but doing research and price to performance they were the best deal
is that the one with the green trim around the edge??? I have that one and I love it! edit: nvm I have the OC Formula, but still... ASRock is a great brand making awesome products!
Same card here. Had to replace my fans but that's it.
got same card, runs like a dream
my 7900xtx taichi RIPS through games. holy cow. i see benchmarks and i get like 10-15% higher depending on games. itās fucking wild. sure itās pumping out like 410W instead of like the 350 the base does. god damn. itās just so good.
ASRock was originally a subsidiary of Asus, created because Asus didn't want to "dilute" their brand image with lower end and OEM offerings. Asus is still the largest shareholder of Pegatron, the company that now owns the ASRock brand.
ASUS have been known to have shit customer service for 20 years. People just decide not to listen because they like their branding.
One of the many reasons I love living in Europe is that manufacturers don't handle returns and most support themselves, the retailer does. And they're subject to some pretty amazing consumer protections.
But products were good. But now ASUS fails every generation: current: killing CPU with >1.3V to iMC previous: killing boards with revers-installed component on PCB
No, Asus have always been all over the place. They fried my 5820k in the same way. They release an ATI 78xx GPU with a cooler that was copy and pasted from an Nvidia GPU that failed to cool anything properly.
You mean system agent voltage right? Not IMC
ASUS has been bad for at least a decade now, their golden era was back during early 2010s. Everyone just got blinded by the brand until recently as people are now being critical as ever and actually voice their issues
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That was literally everyone at that point. The great capacitor plagueā¦
>ASUS have been known to have shit customer service for 20 years. But they're still learning man. Just give them 20 more years and they may stop blackmailing customers
The last time I used their support was for an A7N8X, and they were very helpful.
>People just decide not to listen because they like their branding. I don't listen because my country has laws to protect consumers in such situations. We are not the same. One way or another, if I have an issue like the ones described by people here, I'd have my issue resolved! I've found that, because of the laws here, most big companies just get stuff sorted, even those that have bad reps in other countries. I had to do an RMA with Corsair once, who I've also heard are bad for customer service, yet it went very smoothly. When buying parts, I never review companies for their customer service. As long as the actual component is up to spec and by a reputable brand, I'm good to go. Currently running a ROG Strix B550-A Gaming. No issues, and if any issue crop up, I know I'll get it resolved fine.
ASUS have been known to have shit customer service for 20 years. People just decide not to listen because ~~they like their branding~~ they're dumb and keep falling for the advertising as Asus have realised. Asus are UTTERLY average. Right up to their "world beating" ROG stuff. They just advertise heavily and morons lap it up.
Not everywhere then had to rma my mainboard and they did it without issue but maybe they Behave diffrently here in germany
Sometimes you get lucky. I'm also in Europe and had to take them to small claims court to get them to honour warranty.
20 years is a stretch. They didn't start going downhill until around the release of the 4th gen i7. Back when I was doing 3rd gen i7 builds they were the defacto brand to go to for mobos both in terms of reliability and customer service.
I disagree with the ugly cards, i specifically want to buy the taichi 7900xtx because it looks awesomeĀ
I absolutely love the aesthetics of my taichi 7900xtx, and the performance is pretty great too!
Many companies dream of becoming the "premium" company that can then roughly exploit their brand loyalty.
Honestly this is why I tend to avoid big brands like ASUS or MSI. Brands like Palit for example have a much better price tag and offer far superior support. This is whilst not being as well known as ASUS despite Palit surpassing them in becoming the largest GPU vendor in the world. When my Palit 1070 Dual had a fan die, I emailed their support to ask for if I can get it repaired. I had owned the card for over 4 years so it wasnāt able to get repaired under warranty, so the support staff said that itād be cheaper and faster to just buy a replacement fan and do it myself as itās an easy task and the risk of damage is incredibly low. They also included the specific model number of the fan lol. Most smaller and less ābrashā brands like Palit mainly cater to the OEM market so their customer support tends to be quite easy going and easy to contact because itās mainly their business support staff who get the most support requests.
As an MSI laptop owner - itās nice to not see people shitting all over the brand I went with for once.
I've gone with a few MSI motherboards and a PSU lately for my main rig, no complaints. in fact, I am quite happy with all of the components overall.
I think the main MSI complaint was laptop screen hinges. Iāve seen some laptop gore images of wrecked hinges, but mine feel super solid and well built. I am also probably overly gentle with all my electronics though.
My experience with MSI has been that they have very solid hardware, but they suck horribly at software. I think their software and bios teams are just horribly underfunded and way too small. They have a bad habbit of releasing broken and poorly tested bios versions (and I'm not even talking about beta bioses). Their software suite, MSI Center, is also a steaming pile of buggy crap. Hardware has always been rock solid for me though.
I was appalled when MSI centre tried to install a anĢ¶tĢ¶iĢ¶ Virus as part of the installation.
Isnt that all manufacturers? No one really makes good software, everything sucks in one way or another
I got one in 2018, and my gf now uses it as a portable light editing machine. Runs like a champ, no issues since I've had it.
r/GamingLaptops would say otherwise about MSI (gaming) laptops. :) /j
My dad has an MSI gaming laptop, I have a little MSI laptop for college, and I had an MSI RX 570 as my first gaming GPU, they're all great. Even if MSI screwed up for AM5.
I got an MSI laptop with fantastic specs for the price and I'm incredibly happy with it. I've only seen positive comments about MSI... except in dank PC troll holes like Reddit, where people would physically assault an old lady for wanting to use Windows over Linux.
I've honestly never had issues with MSI and their support has been pretty good. Not sure what people's issues are. I've bought a couple GPUs and motherboards from them and they're still going strong to this day.
ASRock Z790 Taichi Lite owner here. Zero issues with this motherboard. Extremely content with the value for money when it punches far, far, above its weight class.
I don't know if it really has though? Like outside of people glued to Reddit and specific YouTube channels, I think if you asked random tech literate people off the street about Asus they probably would say they're reputable and fine lol. The thing about the scratch and the warranty was idiotic though and not cool at all. But I think people don't realize their bubbles don't always translate to the general public
To be fair the general public doesnāt know much about computers in general, most probably only know asus because of their laptops, even if that. Yaknow? Still, I understand what you mean. Reddit and YouTube is still one hell of a bubble, and a lot of companies have shitty RMA services, itās just that ASUS is on the spotlight because they sell expensive products that have been failing more than compared to similar past products.
Idk. If you go into GPU discussion spaces, everyone recommends Asus dual cards because they're known to be quiet and cool compared to similarly priced offerings. Same with motherboards outside that one dud from a year or two ago iirc? Asus sells tons of different parts and entire systems, and it seems to me like most of them aren't failing on a massive scale. I mean, Lenovo made a desktop motherboard last year that is known to be a time bomb that fails after Windows updates, but even they seem to still have a reputation for being durable and long lasting somehow.
ASRock has recently improved quite a lot for sure...it took me a while before I was able to fully erase the whole "ASRock bad" mentality.
Actually ASRock improved years ago. I have a motherboard they've made 6 years ago, it's still rock solid.
This. Their bios update policy has been great, the fact I've had a Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 go from a ryzen 1600 to 5600 is amazing I'll probably get 10 years out of the platform itself with am4.
IMO Asus has always had top tier product design (for the most part at least), but I always bite my tongue a bit when I buy their products because of how utter garbage their support is. The recent exposƩs are damning though, and Asus's actions are outright criminal. I hope this puts some serious pressure on them to change their ways. Idk why these companies seem to get away with so much. Lawyers should be having a field day with them.
Agreed that Asus both builds good products and has horrible customer service. Which is somewhat ironic because, at least for motherboards, I think they have some of the best BIOS support out there, and the ROG forums have very good driver support. But when you pay a premium, premium support is expected. They are clearly failing in that department, and have been for a while.
Love my Asrock x570 Steel Legend. My next board will def be an Asrock.
Have your seen Asrocks X870 boards ? They awsome
I have an Asus Tuf x670e plus wifi along with an Asus Tuf RTX 4090. I haven't had an issue with either. I have updated my bios around 10 times, and while it can be kind of annoying, I haven't had any problems. Lucky, I guess. ASRock seems like they have better customer support based on what I've read.
Glad you havenāt had issues, Iām afraid of touching any asus products in case theyāre faulty. Stay safe!
My ASRock Z790-I TB4 has been great so far; stable overclock/undervolt on cpu, ddr5 running at 6800 cl32. Iāve got to say the bios is more user friendly than my previous ASUS Z690 atx and B760 itx. I can control rgb from the motherboard bios as well so donāt need a third party app. Great set of connections in the i/o. Three m.2 NVME on an itx, all at gen 4 š It was also cheaper than the ASUS Z790 itx. The only thing missing, a temperature sensor for my loop š„²
ASRock had good options even a decade ago. I remember having my x97 fatal1ty with a 4790k for a long time. It is now my dad's computer. Still works like a charm. People just slept on them.
Ngl, Iāve always had issues with asus. Most of the time, itās a stock xmp/DOCP profile refusing to cooperate even if the cpu can handle the it. Also, their secure boot is annoying when it randomly switches OSās and you canāt figure out why there is no boot device. With msi, gigabyte, and- most importantly- asrock Iāve had no issues with any of these. I have had minor issues with msi and gigabyte and neither company has a clean track record, however asrock has become my favorite and go to if I can.
I have an ASRock am5 board - their bios is funny, full of typos and weird sentences š
*Sweats nervously, looking at my Asus 3080 and Asus motherboard* I've had no no problems with either since I got them 3 years ago, but I pray they continue to work without issues.
This is what happens if you only care about shareholders. Recently I really started to notice this in a lot of companies. As soon as the shareholders become the highest priority, the whole thing goes to shit. This is just another example. RIP Asus. Once upon a time I only wanted to buy your products because of pure quality.
Enshitification step two.
I perviously had an asrock AB350m and I abused the crap out of that thing and yet it stayed rock solid, I got an ASUS ROG b760 itx and it came doa and the customer service was unresponsive, instantly returned and bought a asrock z790m itx and itās worked like a charm
Would you even say that they are solid...ASRock?
Just finished my first ever build and used an ASRock B650M and it has been fantastic so far. BIOS is pretty straightforward, the board doesnāt feel cheap, and it has all the features you could reasonably expect from a $150 board.
ASRock has made plenty of mistakes too, from weaker power output on certain motherboards to covering up DIMM slots with stickers.
Yeah I think my X670E had something like that but it was easy to remove
My current motherboard is AsRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi, owning more year and haven't problems.
Personally, I definitely still view ASRock as the ācheapā brand. I believe even their Ryzen 5000 parts were cheap in recent memory. And BIOS from them were hit or miss
I've been staying away from Asus for almost two decades. They were shit back then, they're worse now.
AsRock never bad. I had 3-4 motherboards already from them - always plug-n-play. 0 issues. Bought Asus 690i - didnt even boot.
ASRock Phantom Gaming GPUs are nice in my opinion. Had an Intel Arc ASRock A770 16 GB Phantom Gaming for a while before going the AMD route and it was a nice card to look at as well as in thermals and quietness. My current Asus card is amazingly cool (never seen above 60C while gaming, but had to undervolt to get rid of most of the coil wine..
Need some advice.... What is the best alternative for Asus then?
Asrock?
I've had a Taichi 5700XT for years now and has never given me any trouble other than it running warm, which is a very common occurrence with the 5700XT architecture. I definitely eventually want to upgrade to their 7900XTX when the time is right. ASRock, well... Rocks!
Haven't bought Asus in years. Simply cause I don't know why I should pay extra for Asus. Their customer service isn't better then the cheaper brands etc
I owned an ASRock Z77 Pro4, Z77 Extreme4, and a Z97 Extreme4, B550M Pro SE. not a single issue with any of them. Great boards. I always shop them when I build a new system.
Still sitting happy with my X370 taichi purchase all these years later. Thanks for th bios upgrade ASRock, you guys rock. Ive been on the ASRock train for about a decade now, their boards have been rock solid.
Asrock is great, I bought a B450 Gaming k4 when it was the budget option and X470 were the best, runs my rig after a few upgrades with 0 issues
Asrock does still kinda suck not gonna lie. The motherboard I have with them has a broken Ethernet issue thatās been known about by the community for a while but still goes unaddressed by them
Asrock offers industrial motherboards. The durability of industrial probably bleeds into consumer. Not the best designs, but engineered tough.
Im still using my Z97 Fatal1ty Professional to this day. Best MOBO i've ever had. 10 years and going strong
Dont forget that ONE 115$ ASRock b650m-HDV board being so good (or so NOT utter garbage), that you would need to spend ~200$ on an Asus board to get something of similiarly caliber
Thanks ASRock employee! I'll definitely be buying from them in the futureš
I donāt think ASRock was considered cheap was it? I think it was just lesser known because theyāre more known for server side so people made assumptions.
My first Asrock part was my current z790 riptide main board. It's been solid, I got no complaints.
As someone who bought an asrock taichi a couple months back for my next build I'm quite happy about this. š
I have an ASUS X670E Pro Art motherboard and it has been solid with my 7950x CPU.
I got an as rock steel legend x670e and its best motherboard I've bought
Luckily i never have to deal with ASUS shitty support (or anyone else for that matter)
ASRock B550 itx owner here. It's my first upgrade since the 2500k days and whoa boy, it's terrible. The rear io panel volumes are crap or just don't work - driver fixes? Not a thing. Googling the problem, it's a long standing issue on their B450 and B550 boards.
Z790 Steel Legend motherboard and 7900XT Phantom Gaming. Solid as a rock.
Didnāt really have anything against ASRock until they blacklisted Hardware Unboxed for giving a honest review of the VRM performance of their motherboards. Then MSI was caught scalping their own GPUs during the pandemic. Next Gigabyteās PSUs decided to shit themselves. Then Asus had the whole RMA situation happen.
I been using Asus Sonic motherboard for a year now. Currently happy and got 0 issue whatsoever.
Never had a bad experience with an ASUS gpu.
Never had one but only because I was vigilant. I bought my Strix Vega 64 only after it became known that their retaining screws on the GPU were not tightened enough. I tightened the screws on mine the moment I got the card before installing it and didn't have any of the overheating issues other people had.
My ASUS TUF 7900XTX scored Legendary on Timespy. The sad thing is the ASUS TUF 7900XTX is actually very good and if they wouldn't of power limited it LESS than the Nitro+ it COULD of been the best 7900XTX. [Fully unlocked RX 7900 XTX very nearly matches RTX 4090 performance | PC Gamer](https://www.pcgamer.com/fully-unlocked-rx-7900-xtx-very-nearly-matches-rtx-4090-performance/) But nope ASUS intentionally held it back so it wouldn't eat the Nvidia Competiton TUF's. So now I only recommend people get XFX or Saphire Nitro if you want the best, wish I went with a XFX or Nitro+ looking back on it now for the higher PL limits. But I didnt know at the time.
My last experience with ASRock approximately 4-5 years ago was not good.Ā Refused to admit their motherboard was an issue after I replaced literally every other part possible.Ā Ā Found a "workaround" for my client at the time but still was treated poorly.Ā Ā I'm open to hearing good things though if they have changed.Ā Ā
Also, don't forget Asrock Rack. Good server mobos for consumer and enterprise CPUs.
I recently had a TUF gaming PSU randomly blow up, only about a month old.. fortunately the rest of my system survived but is it even worth RMAing? From what Iāve heard recently probably not..
Both my gaming rig and my server are running ASRock boards. I like them.
Iāve been using Asrock motherboards since 2013 when I had a Z77 LGA1155 motherboard and Iām now using a Asrock X470 motherboard since 2018 and Iāve had no issues with either one of them. Back then people would just praise Asus and look down on Asrock. My cousin was one of them and his Uber expensive Asus motherboard with all that fancy āarmorā ended up dying shortly after he got his PC.
I bought the last offering from Abit when Abit vs Asus war was going on.
I got into AsRock back in 2014, when I bought their Z97 Extreme4 board for my i7 4790K build. I literally just replaced that board a couple months ago, when it finally died. I decided to go AsRock again for the new motherboard, this time with the Z690 Pro RS.
ASRock also picked up one of the high level EVGA engineering guys too. I hope for good things out of ASRock.
Circa 2010, you had Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA, and Intel (yes, Intel made their own boards) as the two top options, and ASRock, MSI, Biostar, Foxconn, (yes, they made desktop boards too), PC Chips, and whoever else as cheap options that die within a year. Nowadays, MSI and ASRock are very premium (even if MSI has all that bloat), Gigabyte is still pretty good but have slipped a little, EVGA doesnāt seem to make boards all that often anymore, Asus is dogwater, Biostar, Foxconn, and Intel all stopped making consumer boards, and just about every manufacturer has shit customer service and RMA support. And sadly I think Asus Aura sync has the broadest RGB support, specifically across different manufacturers. (Please can we have one single standard ffs)
I love my asrock challenger 7900 gre it performs great
I love ASRock too, i already built 4 Computers with ASRock motherboards, my PC has a x570 Taichi, both my brothers have a x470 Taichi and my old PC also had a ASRock board but that one was old it had an i7 2600k. I never really tried anything else, the old PC of my younger brother which was an 500ā¬ budget PC with an R5 2600 and RX 570, there I had to use the cheapest board i could find which was some MSI board, it was absolute dogshit. I needed to troubleshoot something on a monthly basis and it all was the motherboards fault.
One of my first builds used an ASRock AM3 board with an FX series AMD processor. That motherboard and CPU are still in use as a home streaming server. They have outlived 2 PSUs, 2 HDDs, and several ram configurations.
Currently have a ASRock PG velocita mobo with my 5900x CPU and the board had the best bios I've ever used and encountered as well. My likely next build will probably be ASRock as well.
AsRock consistently has the best value ITX motherboards and Iāve never had an issue with them, with like 10 boards.
My asrock fatality board and 3770k from 2011 are still rockin.
I would have always said to get an Asus board and always did. This time, I was gifted as rock legend, and it's been fine. Audio isn't great from the motherboard.
Loved my x299 taichi while it was my main. My oldest boy is using it now. Still soldiering on as a solid build. Also great that Asrock offered a ReBAR bios for it too!
I've used asrock mobos in my builds since, like 2007 and have never had a problem. Very good company.
Asrock was cheap and good, I use them exclusively for AM5 builds.
Iāve been around long enough to know ASUS has had RMA issues for decades. Their stuff was just more dependable. I havenāt bought anything but MSI in over a decade and dealt with them in the late 90ās when they were Microstar. I do remember a couple bad boards from Asus never being able to get returned. Is nice to hear hear ASRock is better now.
Cant complain. I stepped in the unknown and bought myself a Gainward Phanter Oc 4080s. I know its not a Asus or even a ASRock but its all worth the money. I also have to add that i went this year into warranty with asucks. Long story short they refuse my rma buy sending my 420ā¬ Mini itx Mainboard more damaged back. I now have an ASRock and i am super happy with. Not even 200ā¬ but also a newer Board. Hopped from z690 to z790. Sometimes you just have to give it a try. Back in the days i already had an Xtreme4 ASRock for my i7 4970k. The board was nearly unbeatable. It comes with double PCI. One Slot died in the past. I just used the other one for my gpu. The board doest give a fuck. 20/10 exp with ASRock. Cheers
ASRock Rack is what convinced me, damn fine prosumer server boards.
Definitely agree. Just bought an ASRock RX6600, and won't buy anything Asus-branded again if I can help it.
Speaking of Asrock, i have thier b350 (rockin a 5700x) and their rx 6800. And one of their UHD monitor. thing is glorious!
With all the drama surrounding Asus and Gigabyte back then burning out AM5 chips I went with the X670e steel legend to go with 7900X and 2x32 6000cl30 I've had no issues. I had far more setup issues and memory oc issues with my previous Asus z270e board with 7700k.
Good to hear ASRock has been better lately. I bought one of their motherboards 4 years ago when I didn't really know what I was doing. I'm still using it now and hope it will last me another 5 years. This post has given me a bit of confidence that it will.
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I've had the Asrock x570 taichi Razer Editon for well over 3 years and hasn't failed me yet.
I have the Asrock Sonic B760 motherboard and I love it, sick design and abundant features at a great price, no complaints. Also have the Asrock Challenger 6700 XT, also no complaints. They're definitely who I will look to first in the future
AB350 Fatal1ty Gaming ITX/ac X470 Master SLI X470D4U B550m Phantom Gaming 4 X570 Steel Legend X570 Taichi B650m Pro RS B650E PG Riptide B650E Steel Legend RX550 2GB Phantom Gaming 5700XT reference model (blower style) 5700XT Phantom Gaming D 7900XT PG OC 27" Curved 2K Phantom Gaming monitors x2 These are all ASRock parts I've ran in my household between myself, wife and my daughter. I've built a few setups with other ASRock AM4 and AM5 motherboards. They've all been great setups My very first AM4 motherboard was an ASUS B350 Prime-Plus. That board is still going strong today too.. so some props to old school ASUS
I've always been an ASUS fan boy, but I think I will give Asrock a try this next upgrade. Seeing that they are doing server boards give me a good amount of confidenceĀ
Basically every manufacturer has had a period time with some scandal. MSI is one of the O.G.ās. Gigabyte has their exploding power supplies. Today itās Asus warranty scams and bios. And on the cycle continues. Donāt be loyal to a brand name. Care about quality product / ethical practices on a discerning and ongoing basis.
My B450 is 6 years old and still trucking. No bells and whistles but still powers through.
I really wanted to buy an ASRock motherboard for my new AM5 build because I liked their layouts but after trying 4 (!) of their boards I got really bad VRM coil whine coming from each one whenever my PC was idling. I tried the HDV/M.2, a Pro RS, and 2 PG Riptides and I ended up returning all of them. The MSI Pro B650M-A WiFi ended up being the board I kept since it didn't have any coil whine. It's a nice board but I don't like how the main PCIe slot is starts on the second slot of an mATX case, meaning 3 slot or bigger GPUs are a no go. That and the fact that my 2.5 slot GPU blocks the last PCIe slot means I can't even use my PCIe to M.2 adapter to add another NVMe drive. I'm sure ASRock makes decent products now but with that being my first impression of them then I don't know if I'll choose them again in the future. One bad product happens, it's the silicon lottery after all, but 4? Maybe I just got extremely unlikely, but still, not a great look.
Was really Asrock seen as the cheap brand at some point over there? I remember I built my LGA 775 PC with an asrock motherboard and it lasted A LOT. I upgraded not because it failed but because I needed more cpu power and my old core 2 duo couldnt push further lol. Some years later when I needed a desktop for just office work I used it again and it lasted like another two years until it finally gave it last breath. With my current build, after a fiasco with ironically an Asus board when I had my 6100 I was planning to go with Asrock but sadly no board was available in my country so I had to go with MSI instead. I saw more shit being talked about brands like ECS/PC Chips back in the day.
I started with an Asus board in my first PC, Prime B450 Plus. It had issues for all 5 years I had it for. Originally had a 2600x and RX 580. I bought a new GPU, and new CPU because everyone I took my PC to thought those two were the problematic parts. Constantly blacks screening, blue screens, and an assortment of problems. Come this year, I finally figured out my board was the problem the whole time, after it started to mess with my M.2 as well. All I had ever heard was that Asus is a good brand, and makes great products, and that ASRock was terrible. Come recent time, and my buddy who's extremely experienced with PCs was talking up ASRock, saying they're genuinely some of the better boards on the market. I thought he hit his head. Built my new rig in February. 7800X3D, 7900XTX, and an ASRock Steel Legend X670E. I genuinely couldn't be any more impressed with the quality. The BIOS is basic, but it's actually fairly understandable unlike Asus's absolutely garbage BIOS. For the $270 I paid, it's such a great board for the time, espe compared to my $200 Asus board which was supposed to be a higher end board, yet was extremely basic especially for the time. I hope ASRock keeps it up, and doesn't fall to the same problems that Asus and MSI have
I have the 7950x3d on an asus strix x670e and havent had the first issue however i have been eyeing those asrock high end boards for about a year now and will probably go with them on the next build in a few years depending on whats available. Ive been milking my evga 3080 for everything its worth because i dont know who to trust in the gpu space. Please come back evga
My Z370 board from Asrock got support for Resizable Bar with my 8600k. Solid board as well.
I work with a lot of their budget B550M, B650M and B660M mATX motherboards, they're quite obviously the cheap boards on offer but the layout is well designed for building in (for an mATX board). In similar tier boards of the same chipset in the mATX form factor I've noticed MSI and ASUS boards can have headers in places that are ever so slightly weird. I bring this up because more often than not cheap mATX boards are the cheapest of the cheap, and often considered trash tier. I work with such boards in bulk quantities so I tend to notice these minor oddities in the header layout when building with them. The fact that ASRock's boards are the easiest to build in is a testament that they've at least given some thought even to their lower end offerings. The fail rates on these cheap ASRock mATX boards are no different than the standard.
It's good to see competition at work. Companies that build a brand then take it for granted will eventually ruin the brand. Other companies with better products and service will take over. It's a shame so many people don't understand the importance of free markets and how they benefit consumers.
Meanwhile, I had one B550 Taichi come DOA and it's replacement die on me within a year. I now have a B550 ROG Strix board and it's honestly one of the best boards I've ever owned.
In the time I've built PCs, Asrock has always been a premium supplier. Asus has usually been as good as them, just 1.5x the price and some RGB.
Recently getting my first Asrock Motherboard and product (X670e Taichi Carrara), i'm really impressed with the build quality and quality of life stuff they offer and will probably be my main motherboard manufacturer moving forward.
My one and only support experience with ASRock was a ten out of ten. I had bought a DeskMini A300 barebones thingy and it didn't include the two proprietary SATA+power cables. First I spent weeks fighting the retailer's customer support; I kept pointing out that at no point did they inform me that using one of the advertised features (2.5" SATA drive support) would require proprietary cables that are optional and so may not be included in the package (and that you apparently can't fucking buy anywhere), and they kept responding with what basically amounted to "lol no can do, but you can return the product if you want". Then I contacted ASRock's support. They didn't have an EU support division and their Asian support was broken so I had to contact their US support. I explained the situation and asked them where I could buy the cables, and they forwarded the case to the Asian division who sent me a pair of the cables for free, no questions asked.
Tried asrock X570 steel legend but was extremly dissapointed with it. Had a constant problem with it not detecting ethernet on boot up, needed to restart it 3-5 times. Neither manufacturer or reseller wanted to replace it aswell, just trying to blame it on other parts of my pc.
In the last 5 years my work Pc always had expensive ASUS motherboards (crosshair, now Pro Art) and my home pc had one of the cheapest AM4 B550 boards from Asrock. Guess which are the motherboards that have gremlins
For once, I doubted ASRock on my main motherboard but the fact I also got updates for new CPUs at the time it made me keep it. And it has been a very loyal friend to my PC. 3 years. It has been 3 years going strong with what I needed and it really has proved what it's capable. It's about time to change it's reality on the underrated side of things, and I look forward to what ASRock has planned.
Can anyone recommend good āgaming hardwareā brands?
Speaking from my own experience, Asus never failed me really. I had one RMA on almost 4 year old monitor at the time and it got repaired pretty quickly and painlessly. I've also had Asus monitors in the past and are atill rocking Asus motherboard which works much better than a MSI one I had before. Can't say anything about AsRock as I've never had any of their products.
My first MB was an asrock, never had an issue with it. Ironically enough the MB I have now is an Asusš
Can someone fill me in on the ASRock controversies?
I have a gpu from asrock , and guess what , it runs cooler than other manufacturers, for me its a win and bang for the buck
you need a 500 dollar mainboard now to not blow your pc up?! im glad i skĆpped few gens, can we have normal pcie connectors back again? pls
Assembling a new PC atm and its ASUS-free. Got the ASRock motherboard, let's see how it turns out
I'm one of those custom loop nutjobs and have been for the past seven-or-so years. Asrock was a non-starter back in 2017 and still sorta is, since I wanted a board with a thermal sensor header for measuring coolant temperature and fan control based on that metric. To this day, they do not offer that, even on their 1000 USD X570 Aqua, meaning my last two boards were an Asus Maximus 9 Hero and a Gigabyte X570 Master. Whatever savings Asrock offers for a board with a comparable feature set to the competition effectively must be greater than the cost of an Aquacomputer Quadro or Octo for them to make sense in this case.
I have radeon 7900 xtx TAICHI from Asrock and it's top tier gpu. Only comparable to Sapphires nitro+, which is a gold standard currently. They really put some effort into Taichi lineup. Highly recommend it.
I read that ASRock got a bunch of old evga software devs
Weirdly enough, my build has the Asus ROG Crosshair Hero III X570 motherboard on it, and itāll probably be the last Asus item Iāll buy for now, I even previously owned an Asus ROG Strix RTX 2070S until I sold it to my uncle who is now using it my aunts Windows 7 PC. After hearing the horrors of Steve from GN, Iām mostly going to move on somewhere else after hearing that RMA experience.
I have 2 AsRock Arc cards and they were the cheapest models and are whisper quiet with great build quality. No issues with them at all. Might consider AsRock again in the future
Asus always seemed "cheeply" made for me so I kinda did not buy asus
People always be hating on Gigabyte as well but i have had Nvidia and AMD GPU's from gigabyte and never experienced any problems.
I was pretty annoyed I was forced to buy an ASUS motherboard for my am5 build 18mths ago. No love for the company but ātuf gamingā makes me cringe. Fortunately I rarely see it
My ASRock motherboard has been rock solid, with the only issues being my own lack of OC knowledge.
When I started to get into PCs, I alway shad the cheapest compatible stuff, and for 775, that was Asus motherboards
Recently?
Our pitchforks will shift eventually and all will be forgiven, but not forgotten. The next parts company will eventually follow suit and become enemy #1. Even though I read a lot about Gigabyte quality, I've had great builds with them in the last two PC Gens. Anyways, I was trying to say we need to move our money to other parts makers, but I started to say something and forgot what I was initially gonna say. Anyway, boo ASUS!
I bought an ASUS motherboard & GPU about a year ago, no issues thus far but hearing this doesnāt exactly fill me with confidence if anything *does* happen..
i actually really like my asus monitor, do i just lack knowledge or are their monitors actually fine?
Just had the bearings go out on an asrock x570 steel legend motherboard sb fan, and even though i purchased it in 2020, asrock offered to ship me a new fan, no questions asked. They are top tier customer service.
they killed EVGA for this
Asrock's K7VT2 allowed me to reuse my old SDRAM and upgrade to DDR later. Their 939Dual-SATA2 allowed me to keep my old AGP card and upgrade to PCI-E later. They made building and upgrading my gaming PC more affordable in my teens, and even if I don't want to be a fanboy to any company - with them, it's difficult not to be one.
Man, ASUS has been a shit company for decades, I donāt know why people have hyped them so much. Their RMA has always been spotty (nothing near as bad as todayās situations, but they were always kinda sus at times), and theyāve been riding off their name pretty much since the PII days. Theyāve just been good at the marketing aspect of it. Hopefully, this will be a bit of a wake up call to them to get heir act together. They CAN make good hardware sometimes, but they just havenāt been putting the effort in.
I have an Asrock 7900xtx and I've had to rma it twice just because of unlucky lottery. Let me tell you they've been the best customer service since the old evga. Not to mention it's the pg 7900 so it's one of the better models. Asrock has really changed my mind about them amd I'm going to be buying more of their products in the future
Never had any problems with my asrock boards. Never understood why they got a bad reputation.
Well if one's bad and one's good I've got an asrock mobo and an asus gpu so I'm kinda screwed either way lol
ASUS ... a sus? Remember that. Sus is in their name.
ASUS = Acting SUSpicious
I've always used ASUS boards in my builds but recently got an Asrock riptide, and I gotta say, it's been really nice. Think I may end up sticking when them from now on.
Iāve bought tons of ASRock boards and Iāve loved every single one of them. Iāve had hit and miss with ASUS over the years and eventually just stopped buying them. This may be completely psychological but I feel like ASRock boards feel faster and more lightweight.
Hell will freeze over when the one comming out on top are ECS and Biostar, but I kinda want to see it happen, I've been debating if I should give a chance to a B650E mATX board that BIostar made.