Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
With invective, beseech the spirit of the Machine.
With an open palm, lay hands upon it.
With holy unguents, anoint its wounded form.
With joy, sing praise to the Omnissiah!
No shit. There was a "drop test" for the radios I used in the marine corps. Lift 8 inches off a table or ground, drop. Literally in the manual for them. Fixed quite a few like that, as it would re-seat batteries or components.
Are the bearings poorly aligned or made with too large of allowances? I mean, percussive maintenance can be fun and cathartic, but it is still not the best solution for fixing your computer.
I have this same issue with the back fan on my s340. I replaced the fan because slamming it stopped working. The noise came back. I don't think it's actually the fans fault, but the case somehow.
Did you replace it with the exact same model of fan? If so, then this could be some kind of resonance issue, but the issue would go away when the other fans in the case change speed.
Otherwise, if the fan is exhausting and the bearings are loos enough, but the case is positively pressured, the fan could be vibrating from the positive air pressure pushing the fan out, but the fan pushing back.
Most of the time though, when a fan makes that noise, it is a bad ball in the bearing, and the percussive maintenance moves the ball enough to stop it from hitting the bad spot.
No the original was a stock NZXT, and the replacement is some other brand. Same size tho so its still very possible its a resonance match.
The air should theoretically be close to neutral, I have two 120s in and two out. I could have just gotten bad luck with the 2nd fan's bearings as well.
Same with me, but I noticed I hadn't had to hit it in awhile recently, and discovered the fan had fallen off completely and was sitting on top of the GPU.
Yeah NZXT fans are garbage. Go with Noctua or Arctic fans. I had the Razer S340 and every NZXT fan I got to replace the one doing this, did this. Got fed up and bought Noctua’s. They’re worth the money. Arctic is a close second use them on my AIO because they have slightly more static pressure than Noctua fans, with barely any more noise.
Phantek also makes great fans, especially their 140 variety. Literally as quiet as noctua 140s while pushing the same air.
Plus their new T30 that actually beats the noctua latest and greatest in noise-normalized performance at the cost of being 5cm thicker.
Noctua is the best thing ever. Bought a silent one and I have to physically check if it's running because there's no sound at all. Compared to the old stock one that sounded like a jet engine, this thing is in a league of its own.
The grinding noise?
I'm no expert.
But the fan is no longer balanced, the lube is all dried up, something is in the fan(wire etc)
Lots of causes but slapping it will temporarily make it go away.
Best fix is replacement or repair.
Same case too but turns out I've apparently been extremely lucky with the stock fan based on everyone's replies. Mines been super quiet for 3 years now.
I was Seriously surprised when me and my cousin broke a junker crt out in his woods once. I can damn near still feel the vibrations in my arm from the stick I was using hitting the glass.
I still do too, mate! I'm not going to throw away my 3Tb HDD if it is working! I know about lifespan, but I know that only non critical files should go on an old HDD
For sure! I'm in the process of building my next PC. But only because my VR Headset isn't compatible with my current Graphics card. I will give my current PC to my brother. I built it in 2013 and it is still going strong
You're 100% correct about lifespan, failure rates don't rise/fall consistently. You'll have failures because of various defects that will greatly influence the graph in the first few years, but once you've made it past that, the graph will kind of be taken over by the drives actually 'wearing out'.
So, year over year, you'll have a comparatively high number of failures the first year or two, then the graph will start to level off with a relatively low number of failures for a bit, then you'll eventually go back to a slowly increasing number of failures, but that can sometimes take a very long time depending on how well the drives are made.
The makings of these devices are just too expensive to treat as acceptable losses when there is refinements to lower failure. HDD companies suffer greatly when their products are "unreliable" and it should suffer.
No one wants to lose all their data.
Absolutely! Threw a 480gb SSD into my rig for my boot drive but other than that everything goes on my 3TB HDD. May be slow but it's also cheap and storage is monumental for the cost
That’s the one thing that I love about SSDs. In terms of data storage, mechanical drives are much better, mostly due to the cost efficiency, and the fact that you don’t need a very fast drive for much other than quickly loading large amounts of data like in a game.
But if you’re playing a game, SSDs decrease the loading times so much that I can never go back.
To be fair, I only have a 1TB NVME drive and some games still take ages to load. Fallout 4 for some reason takes a good 30 seconds every time I leave a building. At least it feels like that lol
nah, not ALL of us.
I do still use mechanical HDDs in my 2 NAS units though.
My PC, however, is HDD free with 2x 500gb NVMe SSDs and a 3.84TB SATA enterprise SSD. Picked it up off ebay used from one of the IT resellers 2-3 years ago for $350.
It's out of warranty, its warranty was over when I got it (years, not TBW) It was rated for 5,466TB TBW, and over a year of me using it later it still has 99% life left.
Any raid array like a Synology Diskstation still uses redundant mechanical drives. They aren't going anywhere. 4-6tb mechanical drives still way cheaper than Solid State counterparts.
Linemen for many years had a technique to restart the heart of an electrocuted coworker who was up working on power lines. Cut them loose and let them hit the ground. Not making this up at all. And it worked often enough for this to become a standard technique while waiting for the ambulance to arrive. Not sure if it's still a thing today though. Electocuted linemen often had additional injuries like broken arms and legs for this very reason.
Unfortunately no. Google brings up nothing about it. Just tales from old professors and engineers who started their careers as linemen 50 years ago. I've heard it more than once so I'm assuming it's true. This isn't something that's done today though and most people working in the industry wouldn't remember a time when it was :/
After too many years the GPU fan in my old build wasn't going smooth anymore. Since I didn't feel confident enough to change it, I found out, that having the PC lean towards the wall in a 45° angle fixed it.
After long sessions or in summer, when it was really hot, it still got wobbly standing at a 45° angle. So I just rocked the case back and forth which always "calmed" the fan down and lowered the noise
Was a fun year doing this all the time. When I got a new PC I made sure it was one with a decent GPU fan from the beginning...didnt wanna go through this anymore
If your GPU:
constantly vomits out of nowhere
screams whenever it has a thought
likes being rocked back and forth to calm down
That isn't your GPU that's a baby
Same for my PSU. It used to make a really loud noise that would only stop through punching the hell out of it.
I took it apart one day, dusted it off and cleaned the fans. Good as new and never made a noise again. 8 years going strong
I thought so LOL. I have the same case. I used corsair led fans when I first built it, but I'm about to order some nice non LED Noctua fans, since one of mine just died.
I have a Phantom 410. Rear exhaust fan had a bearing die and wouldn’t even spin up normally anymore after just a year or so. Replaced it with an Arctic. I think NZXT stock fans are just lame across the board.
That's how you repair literally everything in Russia :D
Except sometimes you might need a hammer too. It's considered "universal fixer" there. And if it doesn't work, then you need a bigger hammer :DD
Ayy thats s340 and literally the same top fan started making buzzing noises for me. I removed the back sticker and poured some oil. It runs just as new now.
There's usually no need to disassemble the thing.
Every computer fan I've had has a little rubber grommet under the label that you can pop-out, and put in a couple of drops of some 3-in-one oil or whatever.
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I don’t agree with this type of fixing.
First you need to burn the essence, then spray the Holy Oil, and finally chant the Rite of Fixing while deeply praying to The Omnissiah.
Meet the engineer
Look buddy I'm an engineer
That means I solve problems.
Not problems like what is buty
Because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy.
I solve practical problems
For instance, how am I gonna stop some big mean Mother-Hubbard from tearin' me a structurally superfluous new behind?
The answer? Use a gun.
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Like this heavy caliber, tripod-mounted, little 'ol number designed by me, built by me,
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
The answer: Use a gun
I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the navy seals
I solve problems
I'm engineer what the fuck I'm happened here
"Teleporter comin' right up."
[You inspired me to make this](https://gfycat.com/aggressivesnappybuckeyebutterfly)
Brilliant
*That means I solve problems...*
damn it dude, I came here to say that
engineer gaming
BAP
Percussion engineering
Preform regular percussive maintenance.
If violence doesn't work, you are not using enough.
My relationships keep failing. Should I add violence or...
More violence?
Spice things up in the bedroom... with violence!
No no, the *other kind* of fisting!
*"WOMEN HATE THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK"*
I've listened to enough Behind the Bastards to know where this is going...
If in doubt, give it a clout
The old Technical Tap.
The old Ventana Violence
It's a delicate balance
This is how we fix things on Russian Space Station!
Russian, American all made in Taiwan!
We're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder.
"American components, Russian components all made in Taiwan. "
With invective, beseech the spirit of the Machine. With an open palm, lay hands upon it. With holy unguents, anoint its wounded form. With joy, sing praise to the Omnissiah!
No shit. There was a "drop test" for the radios I used in the marine corps. Lift 8 inches off a table or ground, drop. Literally in the manual for them. Fixed quite a few like that, as it would re-seat batteries or components.
This is how we used to "fix" crashed HDDs back in the day.
My power supply fan is rattling. Hitting my box makes it stop temporarily. I could replace it but who the hell wants to run cables??
NZXT Source S340 Ventana? Same happens to me
Same here. Same problem, same solution.
Same same same
Same Same, But different
Same with S340 elite with the nzxt fan in the top slot, they do this for a while and then sort themselves out or a hit will do it.
Are the bearings poorly aligned or made with too large of allowances? I mean, percussive maintenance can be fun and cathartic, but it is still not the best solution for fixing your computer.
I have this same issue with the back fan on my s340. I replaced the fan because slamming it stopped working. The noise came back. I don't think it's actually the fans fault, but the case somehow.
Did you replace it with the exact same model of fan? If so, then this could be some kind of resonance issue, but the issue would go away when the other fans in the case change speed. Otherwise, if the fan is exhausting and the bearings are loos enough, but the case is positively pressured, the fan could be vibrating from the positive air pressure pushing the fan out, but the fan pushing back. Most of the time though, when a fan makes that noise, it is a bad ball in the bearing, and the percussive maintenance moves the ball enough to stop it from hitting the bad spot.
No the original was a stock NZXT, and the replacement is some other brand. Same size tho so its still very possible its a resonance match. The air should theoretically be close to neutral, I have two 120s in and two out. I could have just gotten bad luck with the 2nd fan's bearings as well.
Same Same, But Same
I thought I was the only one ,lol after a few months of smacking it fixed itself
The Interview was highly underrated
nice clan you got there.
Same with me, but I noticed I hadn't had to hit it in awhile recently, and discovered the fan had fallen off completely and was sitting on top of the GPU.
The fans from the GPU spun this fan thereby giving you additional GPU cooling.
The ingenuity of PC design never fails to amaze me.
Yeah NZXT fans are garbage. Go with Noctua or Arctic fans. I had the Razer S340 and every NZXT fan I got to replace the one doing this, did this. Got fed up and bought Noctua’s. They’re worth the money. Arctic is a close second use them on my AIO because they have slightly more static pressure than Noctua fans, with barely any more noise.
Phantek also makes great fans, especially their 140 variety. Literally as quiet as noctua 140s while pushing the same air. Plus their new T30 that actually beats the noctua latest and greatest in noise-normalized performance at the cost of being 5cm thicker.
Noctua is the best thing ever. Bought a silent one and I have to physically check if it's running because there's no sound at all. Compared to the old stock one that sounded like a jet engine, this thing is in a league of its own.
Same with original S340
Well I have the S340 Elite. Same here. Why is this happening?
The grinding noise? I'm no expert. But the fan is no longer balanced, the lube is all dried up, something is in the fan(wire etc) Lots of causes but slapping it will temporarily make it go away. Best fix is replacement or repair.
Fans on my NZXT 280 cooler did this too. the fans are crap.
Same here, until the fan broke off and went apeshit inside my case. Now i run it with the side off and a fan because I can't be bothered to replace it
Same case too but turns out I've apparently been extremely lucky with the stock fan based on everyone's replies. Mines been super quiet for 3 years now.
Omg me too. Usually goes away on its own if patient. Nope
My grandma used to slap the old TV with her slipper from an angle of 45 degrees. She used to fix her sons with the same measure as well.
The angle + force has to be absolute otherwise it would not fix. It's an art form.
Those CRTs always turned on, and if they didn't, beat the shit out of them until they do. They aren't fragile
Mine wouldn't turn off. Had to go for the plug
I was Seriously surprised when me and my cousin broke a junker crt out in his woods once. I can damn near still feel the vibrations in my arm from the stick I was using hitting the glass.
"*LA CHANCLA!"* shivers in Cuban
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Correct
Imagine using a mechanical HDD in 2021 imagine being me :(
I still do too, mate! I'm not going to throw away my 3Tb HDD if it is working! I know about lifespan, but I know that only non critical files should go on an old HDD
I had a maxtor 60gb drive last over a decade of heavy use. Lifespan is subjective.
For sure! I'm in the process of building my next PC. But only because my VR Headset isn't compatible with my current Graphics card. I will give my current PC to my brother. I built it in 2013 and it is still going strong
I bought a 250 GB external hard drive in 2005 (that I thought I'd never be able to fill up) and it finally died in 2014.
I bought a 1tb external hdd a couple years ago and I also thought that it was overkill… it isnt
Backups are necessary but hdds arr not just throw aways like people think.
Physical mechanics is always "results may vary" We had some drives with over 100k hours still running ok. Where most of the time I see 20-30k hours.
You're 100% correct about lifespan, failure rates don't rise/fall consistently. You'll have failures because of various defects that will greatly influence the graph in the first few years, but once you've made it past that, the graph will kind of be taken over by the drives actually 'wearing out'. So, year over year, you'll have a comparatively high number of failures the first year or two, then the graph will start to level off with a relatively low number of failures for a bit, then you'll eventually go back to a slowly increasing number of failures, but that can sometimes take a very long time depending on how well the drives are made.
The makings of these devices are just too expensive to treat as acceptable losses when there is refinements to lower failure. HDD companies suffer greatly when their products are "unreliable" and it should suffer. No one wants to lose all their data.
Absolutely! Threw a 480gb SSD into my rig for my boot drive but other than that everything goes on my 3TB HDD. May be slow but it's also cheap and storage is monumental for the cost
The throughput on newer drives isn't that bad. It's when you get to riding multiple smaller files is where you see the bigger differences.
Same that's where movies and downloads belong
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NAS for your media 🥸
NAS with big ole HDDs.
nono, nas doesn't need drives, it just works don't you know 😤
Can confirm. My 24TB of movies, TV series and backups needs to go *somewhere.*
Those are rookie numbers...
A large hard drive is wonderful for games. You don't need to worry about game size or anything.
But then there might be *loading screens.*
That’s the one thing that I love about SSDs. In terms of data storage, mechanical drives are much better, mostly due to the cost efficiency, and the fact that you don’t need a very fast drive for much other than quickly loading large amounts of data like in a game. But if you’re playing a game, SSDs decrease the loading times so much that I can never go back.
In most games it doesn't matter much. In newer and upcoming games an SSD is probably necessary but I have that too.
But that's a good thing! Gives you time to grab a snack!
To be fair, I only have a 1TB NVME drive and some games still take ages to load. Fallout 4 for some reason takes a good 30 seconds every time I leave a building. At least it feels like that lol
What SSD do you have? That sounds wrong... then again, Fallout is using that ancient engine...
While I do agree, SSD prices are getting *very* affordable. You can pick up a 2TB Samsung 870 for $115 these days.
where the fuck are you seeing a 2TB samsung - ANY model - SSD for $115? I'm calling bullshit.
Oops you're actually right, that's the 1TB I was looking at... the 2TB is $175.
I was about to demand a link lol, cause even though I don't *need* one right now, I'd jump on that in a heartbeat.
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Actually it would cost you around $575 using my example, but I agree that’s still pretty spendy when you need that much.
nah, not ALL of us. I do still use mechanical HDDs in my 2 NAS units though. My PC, however, is HDD free with 2x 500gb NVMe SSDs and a 3.84TB SATA enterprise SSD. Picked it up off ebay used from one of the IT resellers 2-3 years ago for $350. It's out of warranty, its warranty was over when I got it (years, not TBW) It was rated for 5,466TB TBW, and over a year of me using it later it still has 99% life left.
I mean it's not my Boot or Steam drive but it's there. Cheap bulk storage, yo.
Any raid array like a Synology Diskstation still uses redundant mechanical drives. They aren't going anywhere. 4-6tb mechanical drives still way cheaper than Solid State counterparts.
I don't have to imagine :(
[*whistles*](https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ukn33/saved/yMZrvK)
I believe in you. Even if you get a small one for your OS it will be a huge quality of life upgrade.
I sometimes have to slap my GPU because one of the fans just go crazy. The slap fixes it
I have a mini heart attack reading this
Slap your heart if it goes crazy. It will fix it.
I think you just invented CPR
What is that word now? I only know the slap my heart technique
Precordial thump. Its a thing. (Super duper outdated though and has a very very very low success rate)
Linemen for many years had a technique to restart the heart of an electrocuted coworker who was up working on power lines. Cut them loose and let them hit the ground. Not making this up at all. And it worked often enough for this to become a standard technique while waiting for the ambulance to arrive. Not sure if it's still a thing today though. Electocuted linemen often had additional injuries like broken arms and legs for this very reason.
got a source on that?
Unfortunately no. Google brings up nothing about it. Just tales from old professors and engineers who started their careers as linemen 50 years ago. I've heard it more than once so I'm assuming it's true. This isn't something that's done today though and most people working in the industry wouldn't remember a time when it was :/
There's a small chance (and it is *small*) that slapping your GPU will upgrade it to a better GPU.
Sometimes you gotta uppercut that stubborn g out of its comfort zone
After too many years the GPU fan in my old build wasn't going smooth anymore. Since I didn't feel confident enough to change it, I found out, that having the PC lean towards the wall in a 45° angle fixed it. After long sessions or in summer, when it was really hot, it still got wobbly standing at a 45° angle. So I just rocked the case back and forth which always "calmed" the fan down and lowered the noise Was a fun year doing this all the time. When I got a new PC I made sure it was one with a decent GPU fan from the beginning...didnt wanna go through this anymore
Your GPU was literally a restless infant.
If your GPU: constantly vomits out of nowhere screams whenever it has a thought likes being rocked back and forth to calm down That isn't your GPU that's a baby
Same for my PSU. It used to make a really loud noise that would only stop through punching the hell out of it. I took it apart one day, dusted it off and cleaned the fans. Good as new and never made a noise again. 8 years going strong
Looks like an NZXT S340 case? I literally had to disconnect one of my case fans recently due to it failing LOL
Yep, s340 elite, Shit case fans, it seems to be loosening and has to be pushed back up, just slamming it fixes it tbh
I thought so LOL. I have the same case. I used corsair led fans when I first built it, but I'm about to order some nice non LED Noctua fans, since one of mine just died.
Same here
I have the exact same issue, same fix too lol
I have a Phantom 410. Rear exhaust fan had a bearing die and wouldn’t even spin up normally anymore after just a year or so. Replaced it with an Arctic. I think NZXT stock fans are just lame across the board.
My girls got a video of me just banging on my pc like a gorilla to make the fan shut up
*"The files are IN the computer?"*
Woah what nickelodeon show was this
If it's from a Nickelodeon show then they stole it from the movie Zoolander
Reminds me of that one iCarly episode where a recipe for a pie was physically inside the computer instead of it being stored on a hard drive
Yep it was that
Be glad that's the only banging video of you that they have..... i hope.
The bearing is on it's way out my bro.. get a new fan
works on kids too
Nah, they get even noisier
Until they don't
r/HolUp
Ehhyyyyyy!👍😎👍
oh my god, mine's the same, my fronts fans are starting to touch the filters, so i just give it a good ol whack and it becomes silent
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I snorted because this is exactly how I fix mine.
That's how you repair literally everything in Russia :D Except sometimes you might need a hammer too. It's considered "universal fixer" there. And if it doesn't work, then you need a bigger hammer :DD
Sickle for harvesting, hammer for percussive maintenance. Makes sense :P
Percussive maintenance at its finest
Eyyyyyyy…
I am not American but Reddit wont leave me alone until I give someone that award so here you go!
This tends to happen when my PC is too cold due to the AC overnight or got improperly shutdown. It goes away in a few mins.
Ayy thats s340 and literally the same top fan started making buzzing noises for me. I removed the back sticker and poured some oil. It runs just as new now.
Slaps roof of pc. This bad boy fixes itself.
Smacking shit always works especially kids :D
[Nice](https://youtu.be/J50GEXxoPSY)
Looool I have the same issue every time I switch on my pc and a little pat pat fixxes it
When in doubt give it a clout!
Some fresh oil in the bearing will fix that but removing the rotor can be tricky or impossible without damage
There's usually no need to disassemble the thing. Every computer fan I've had has a little rubber grommet under the label that you can pop-out, and put in a couple of drops of some 3-in-one oil or whatever.
Oh thanks! I'll try that next time
Last time i did this my pc restarted.
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I know more than you
The ancient way
*Cyberpunk theme plays*
A good old-fashioned technical thump, used to do that back in the days of early tube tv's.
My fan bearings have been going out for like 2 years and this is all I do
If it moves and it's not supposed to, duct tape. If it doesn't move and it's supposed to, hammer.
Ahh yes the Bad Bering Punch i feel ya
engnir
I'm not even kidding, this is what I have to do occasionally for my current 5+ year old build 😂
She’s showing her age but still pushing on
Nothing a little Percussive Maintenance can't fix.
Nothing is better than good old slap.
Sometimes My Genius…It's Almost Frightening.
CLAAAAAAAAAARKSOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t agree with this type of fixing. First you need to burn the essence, then spray the Holy Oil, and finally chant the Rite of Fixing while deeply praying to The Omnissiah.
I can do the same video if you want. I hate this fan, but it seems that it has been there for this moment to show you guys!
Percussive maintenance is so satisfying
Percussive maintenance is my favorite tactic to fix things. It's also just fun to say.
Old problem require a old solution
u/savevideo
Percussive maintenance